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12:19 AM
I've been struggling against SSL for three days now...
who asked me about VS dev builds?
I'm not really allowed to talk about the dogfood/beta builds
 
12:30 AM
@Codeman i did lol
figured you weren't allowed to say much
was curious, in your opinion, how close it comes to feature parity with 2015 + R#
 
yeah. I mean... it's probably proprietary
oh, idk. I don't use R#
I still use VS2015, I just get the dogfood version of it
 
don't you have a free R# license?
eh idk i'm a R# shill lol
going to dinner, later
 
uhh
JetBrains is a competitor to MSFT, I don't get anything from them
 
@Codeman They're not really competing with R# - since it's complementary
Though Rider definitely is trying to compete ;)
 
12:48 AM
ah
 
 
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user47589
2:41 AM
panini now. panini tomorrow. panini to infinity and beyond
 
panini forever
 
James Bond: Paninis are Forever
The Life of Panini
 
Golden Panini
why are there no good examples of prism wpf
 
 
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user47589
4:20 AM
2001: A Space Panini
 
4:47 AM
To Kill a Panini
 
 
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9:11 AM
tumbleweeds
 
good (ugt) morning
happy hungarian working day...
 
saturday, really?
 
yeah...
 
mental note: Don't move to Hungary
 
it's flipped with next monday. Next monday will be holiday this way
i mean 03.14 monday
 
9:15 AM
oh I see
 
03.15 is holiday anyway
 
if you have to pay for it with your weekend it's not really a holiday, is it? :P
 
so it will be a 4 day long weekend, but it sucks today
yeah
 
Any work getting done today?
 
yeah. Talked with some expertee, how could I reproduce a problem
noone knows shit
 
9:19 AM
standard
 
o'rite. Next ticket...
 
9:41 AM
You guys ever had to build something that makes it look like a company is participating in industry testing but in reality their actual system is 6 months away from completion?
 
10:05 AM
one of my prev company held many demo with the previous version of the software. The new version was a complete rewrite never done
 
That was a 'prototype' :)
 
they had also sold and transported a hardware, that was not finished... They had a tip, that the tool will be not installed till next week or so, and they replaced the empty boxes with the hardware
 
10:44 AM
I need to work on software that ships
last project was pure vapourware
Seemed mostly intended supply a plutocratic class of managers with perpetual employment doing f all
 
@tweray you're an asshat.
also good morning friends
 
trololo
er, morning
 
10:59 AM
o/
 
hrmph, 11 and I've done very little
although to be honest I thought it was about now when I got up, so I've had two bonus hours
 
Noon and I've not even had breakfast.
 
good morning all
 
hi aall
can anyone help me to add class name in the dropdownfor in mvc?
 
Razor?
haacked.com/archive/2011/01/06/… This is a really handy cheat sheet for Razor syntax if you're having trouble
 
11:04 AM
yes
 
What version?
 
sorry want to add in the dropdownlist
 
You might be able to use nameof(Class)
 
which will bind from databse
 
First of all treat database and MVC views as two completely separate things
 
11:06 AM
@Html.DropDownList("CategoryId","Select", new { @class = "form-control" })
above is my syntax
and I am getting below error
CS1928: 'System.Web.Mvc.HtmlHelper<Test.Models.M_Product>' does not
contain a definition for 'DropDownList' and the best extension method overload
'System.Web.Mvc.Html.SelectExtensions.DropDownList(System.Web.Mvc.HtmlHelper, string,
System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable<System.Web.Mvc.SelectListItem>,
object)' has some invalid arguments
 
OK, well you're passing the wrong arguments
 
@Squiggle that link is amazing thnx
 
Pass it an IEnumerable of SelectListItem
What does this have to do with "adding a class name" by the way?
 
no buddy i i will remove the class name it works perfectly
 
11:09 AM
oh, CSS class
right
 
act i am using bootstrap
yes
 
sounds like the exact same issue, with a solution
 
@Squiggle thanx above link is working
@TomW yes buddy
 
Helpful that two languages used together use the same term to mean something completely different
Thanks, language designers. Thlanguage Thesigners.
 
hey my friend not able to post any question in stack overflow means his posting was bannned so any idea how to come out from that problem ?
 
11:16 AM
It was probably a bad question. What was hey asking?
 
@User125 yeah, it's intended as an incentive to improve existing questions so that they get upvotes, or write good answers to other questions that also get upvotes
The site is now well-populated enough that beginner-ish questions are almost always already answered, and asking beginner-ish questions when there are already answered questions on the topic can shaft a newbie pretty badly
 
@TomW but how can he improve his existing questions ?
 
u mean to say first of all he have to improve the existing questions then n then he can come out from the ban right ?
 
If they get upvotes, yes
 
11:21 AM
by editing the existing questions ?
 
Yes, or by posting good answers to other questions
 
ok got it thanx buddy really appreciated ur help thnx..:)
 
@User125 FWIW, I have never asked a question on SO - because all mine already had answers
 
^ +1
 
11:28 AM
Flat y u no tidy
 
@Squiggle hehe thats good
 
@TomW: because of OutOfCleaningProductsException
 
@scheien more like PaperworkOverflowException
 
I see
Solution: Hire a cleaning lady.
 
IME, cleaning ladies only really clean. They don't tidy away your crap that you've left lying around.
 
11:32 AM
Considered it. Cleaners for cleaning, not for arranging my shit
 
snap
 
I wouldn't want someone else arranging my filing
 
@Squiggle: true
 
heh on which topic r u disccsing ?
 
I have what my uni supervisor termed a 'geological filing system'
 
11:33 AM
My housemate had "Shelf #0"
 
@User125 Domestic tidying. I'm complaining that my home is a mess even though it's my fault :)
 
He know how to count @Squiggle
 
@TomW hehe
 
I got my swag yesterday. Now I get the owner.isCoding() thingy.
 
People complain that their house is never tidy again once they have kids. I respectfully disagree
A curious toddler makes you re-tidy everything at least daily
It can't get into this kind of state
 
11:36 AM
Well, that depends on how you define tidy
it's a subjective matter I guess
 
clean and tidy are two entirely different concepts
 
I'm fortunate enough to have a spare bedroom, which now is a 'playroom', where we stuff all the toys every evening after the kids are put to bed.
At least I don't have to look at the mess
 
I'm currently sorting papers in my spare room/office
 
I also do the same thing but not for the kids
where is it ?
 
mmm paperwork
 
11:41 AM
I'm cleaning my kitchen between being distracted by 'tinterwebs. Gotta make space to prepare brioche and croissants for tomorrow. I'm getting good at baking all types of shit these days.
 
Clean kitchen is a must
 
yeah, about that...
 
@Squiggle you have to clean ur kitchen?
 
@User125 yeah. It looks like a bomb site. We cook a lot.
also working late doesn't help
 
I mean to say u r helping ur family member for house work or what ?
 
11:47 AM
Oh boy. Here we go.
 
@User125 nah. Just me and my fiancee living here.
@TomW?
 
ok good then help is required :)
 
@Squiggle I'm anticipating a...er...'difference in opinion' of gender roles...
 
hah
 
hahahaha
 
11:49 AM
Well I guess what with me being a woman and all, it's to be expected I spend most of my time in the kitchen
 
hahahaha
women power :D
 
j/k i have a penis lol
 
sorry I mean to say its a women power that u havwe to spend ur most o time in thekitchen
 
So. Question for today: Which shall I brush up on first? Docker, TypeScript or Azure?
 
@Squiggle Docker IMHO
 
11:51 AM
'k!
 
Azure is kind of a means to an end and also a mishmash of fairly uncoordinated bits with a lot of marketing waffle filling in the gaps
 
Aye. I just don't know the first thing about it, really. My cloud experience is all on Amazon.
 
Read up on it when you need it, IMHO. It's unrewarding otherwise
 
Activating my Pluralsight 2-month freebie.
 
I pay for Pluralsight myself, been quite lame and only recently started using it again
 
11:57 AM
"According to our records, the offer code you supplied is invalid or has already been redeemed."
 
hw much you pay ?
 
F7U12
 
Standard is $300/yr
@TomW ?
 
what?
 
@TomW not clear ?
F7U12
 
11:59 AM
F7U12 is shorthand for saying FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
i.e. what you say when you discover you've been ripped off
 
haha
 
hahahah
 
bip
 
@Squiggle Roel will tell you to learn TypeScript, I expect
 
I need to learn TS.
FFS Pluralsight give me my freebie!
 
12:04 PM
TS is pretty neat
 
is pluralsight really good?
 
TypeScript in Node, in Docker, on Azure, sounds like a nice stack :)
 
i have this free 6 months and i aint using it at all
 
@misha130 some really good material on there, some less good
 
Oh basically...I'll have to build my own subjective opinion
 
12:08 PM
I liked the .Net core videos
Functional Architecture in F# (Mark Seemann) was also good
Making .net Apps Even Faster (Sasha Goldstein)
some stuff I liked
There are some presenters whose voices are annoying
 
@TomW That's the stack I'll be using from next month onwards :D
 
@Squiggle @CharlieBrown can tell you how great Node is for webservices
 
well, Node and WebAPI, depending on whether we need to integrate with SharePoint.
 
yeah judging from CB's experience, you can't do SOAP on node with non-trivial bindings
self-hosted WCF should work in a container though
 
that actually sounds super interesting
the .net core videos
 
12:11 PM
I'm sure he can. I've played with Node before. It's fine - but I really like NancyFx and the new OWIN web services.
 
@Squiggle nah things like signature verification are bonkers complicated and no Node implementation exists
Throwing cleartext soap envelopes are around but forget any complex security, reliable messaging and so on
 
sure
 
But if you have a microservice architecture, mixing frameworks shouldn't matter
 
to be fair the newest SharePoint is geared towards OData, so integration should be a breeze.
yarp
 
@Squiggle OWIN looks nice. Not used it, only tinkered with a hello-world once or twice
It's good that the classic stuff just plugs in and you can forget about it
If that's your bag
 
12:20 PM
hws typescript and OWIN works ?
 
@User125 Had a quick google, doesn't seem to be an OWIN implementation in TS
 
OWIN makes so much more sense to me
 
but I can't see why there couldn't be
Oh, well. The 'N' is for '.NET'
 
yeah TS isn't designed for CLR compatibility. It's a superset of JavaScript. Not sure it would be an easy port or transpile.
 
OWIN an Typescript is new for me
 
12:31 PM
The point of OWIN is to provide a simple managed code interface to the http request, rather than having it rattle round all the plumbing of IIS, right?
 
Pretty much. It's a simple way of attaching middleware to the request/response pipeline.
 
ok
 
public void Configure(IApplicationBuilder app, IHostingEnvironment env, ILoggerFactory loggerFactory)
{
    app.UseStaticFiles();
    app.UseMvc();
}
mornin' @Amy
 
12:51 PM
anyone picked up this asp.net rc thing?
 
@misha130 yeah. Haven't really done anything with it yet
 
I feel like I am being fooled by ms to think it might actually be crossplatform
I didnt quite understand how they substituded the IIS
 
1:39 PM
Question: Is it fine for a database application with 200+ database tables to have only stored proecdures for all queries?
minimum stored procedures count = about 600
 
is Your security managed with sql users through the sp_s? I mean do You grant execute on roles for the sp_s?
 
1:58 PM
@Rusty for me, too many stored procedures is a code smell. Difficult to maintain. Why do you need stored procs?
@misha130 I've done some OWIN/WebAPI development in Linux. Works fine so far, but the tooling has a way to go.
 
With this RC thing?
To be honest I just gave up. No offense to them and their brave effort but there are better things out there
 
@misha130 yep.
it's still in beta. I'd stick to Windows for development for now, but the I don't see a problem with hosting on Linux in the future.
 
2:29 PM
@Squiggle its not me. I saw a code and yes it is extremely unmaintable and stupid.
 
@Rusty err what
 
yes its true :(
what hurts the most is every table is prefixed with schema of "dbo"
 
oh I see
sprocs, not .net RC
gotcha
 
and and its windows forms
 
beyond salvation
 
2:32 PM
and and its there are no namespaces for classes, everything is dumped right into the project
FML!
 
wat
Was it written by the CEO's nephew or something?
 
and and they call it an "architecture"!
 
Well that's just great. Went out to buy some shelves to get the cupboard organised. With the shelves in, I can fit in less stuff than I could just throwing it in a pile
 
Fuck me!
 
Fuck's sake
 
2:35 PM
gotta laugh
@TomW solution: have less stuff
 
less is better :)
 
@Squiggle but the stuff is for doing things
 
@Rusty apply to Panini too?
 
In Soviet Russia, panini apply to YOU!
 
Rekt!
 
2:42 PM
w00t. Mailed pluralsight support. Got my free 2 months :D
it's a pretty slick experience
 
@Squiggle on the matter of the mountain bike in bits in the cupboard that I haven't ridden for ~6 years, I concede that point.
And since it now won't go back in there, I ought to do something with it
 
@Squiggle one can do that?!!
 
@Rusty nah I had a voucher code from an event that wasn't redeeming properly
 
maan. i was really looking forward to it
 
heh
 
user4433485
3:01 PM
heya
 
3:11 PM
o/
 
nice
 
user4433485
Lmao
 
user4433485
Anyone here with some experience in universal apps?
 
I'm a webapp guy.
 
am a mvc dude
 
user4433485
3:25 PM
Well I am used to WPF, totally new to uwp
 
good morning!
@Squiggle lmao
 
3:53 PM
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Why downvote answers?
 
No idea, but all three answers are virtually identical
also it's a moot point - it's clearly a duplicate question
 
every answer was at -1 a few seconds ago
I'm OK with zero
 
Probably just one overzealous user
that sort of activity should get automatically flagged as abuse
 
I hope so
 
SO community is crazy over points
 
4:04 PM
some folks are.
 
yea
too crazy
 
@Failsafe I hope you're pleased to know that the phrase "BEES, NERD!" has popped into my head half a dozen times today and caused me to smirk
 
so I unchecked Prefer 32 bit in a small console app to see what'd happen and it is slow as mollasses
 
holy f*ing shit
 
nvm, just the first time
 
4:12 PM
@Rusty?
 
nevermind kush wasted the excitement
 
@Rusty aw
 
How much would you guys think is reasonable to pay out for a car every month and how much is too much, as a percentage of salary?
Assuming you're a person who uses a car and likes having one
 
No idea. I think we pay about 4% of combined salary on transport per month.
 
Obviously that's a personal decision and all, but where's your "What are you doing; you're an idiot" line
 
4:25 PM
If you commute far, and have a large family, then I guess anything up to 12% could be reasonable
unless you live in London, in which case your salary basically buys food, travel and rent.
@TomW what car do you want to justify buying?
 
@Squiggle I've had my eye on the latest model BMWs for a while...
But I don't drive for work, so it would be pointless
 
tru
My commutes cost about 70EUR/month when I'm lazy. During the summer I cycle (or swim) every day. It'd cost me more than that 70 just to rent a parking space in the garage downstairs.
I can't justify the expense of even learning to drive.
 
At the time it was my only practical means of getting to work, I was taking the mickey scrounging a lift with the same chap every day
 
@TomW That depends on type of car, and usage
If you're using it primarily to get to/from work, I'd say it should be as little as possible
Buy the car you want, as long as you can afford it. That would be the best thing to do, so that you don't regret your choice afterwards.
 
4:42 PM
@Squiggle can't wait for sel-driving cars
I fear Google's self-driving car is probably a better driver than I am already
 
@Squiggle I'll teach you.
 
@scheien everything I know about driving I learned from Mario Kart
 
everything about thug life, I learned from GTA
 
going outside is overrated anyway
 
@scheien yeah, I'm leaning toward the something that I like and will enjoy, but I'm afraid I have fairly expensive taste...
Not acted upon, thus far
 
5:02 PM
@TomW: You also need to consider that it is an opportunity now. Might not be the same in the future :)
 
Tru dat. May not get the chance again.
 
@Squiggle You'll be the main banana thrower, you cool with that?
 
HI, can someone help me with XAML, I have a transitioningcontentcontrol that is from mahapps.metro and I am using customvisualstates, but the same one over in multible labels/textblocks, etc..and I don't want to have to copy and paste the same one and give it a different name a dozen times, how do I make a visual state as a resource in a resource dictionary then use it as the resource?
 
 
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8:59 PM
guys
a quick question
what is the state object class actually? i see it for example in async sockets
what is the usage of this class?
 
Can you rephrase your question
 
@Squiggle look here for example
they use a stateobject for reading in the callback method
what's the purpose of this?
i mean why do we actually need it?
 
It looks like it just gathers the async responses into a buffer
I'm not sure :)
 
sockets mmm
 
yea
 
user47589
9:18 PM
mmmm sockets
 
9:50 PM
they are warm and fuzzy and full of data
 
 
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11:20 PM
Hello , may i have a download link to this file "Windows.winmd" windows10Sdk edition i need it to use it on my wpf app to seend Toast Notification it's size is about 2Mb
Located On "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10\UnionMetadata\windows.winmd" i don't have the sdk installed , and i need only this file from all the sdk(1.6Gb)
 

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