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00:00
@JerryCoffin ah that sucks
Man, I am so tempted to replicate my D3D12 visual debugging tools into a standalone application and publish it as open source. But I don't know how people are in the open source community, I don't need 4chan-ish folks up my ass.
Why is it tempting, and what's stopping you?
@ElimGarak Damn. Beaten to it.
Mostly folks seem nice, but I've seen examples of entitled people getting abrasive when someone is not updating regularly because he has life to attend to.
@sehe Want to share something with the community, meet some more people and stuff. Seems like an exciting prospect.
@ElimGarak Repeat after me: "I'm just a simple tailor coder."
00:09
did someone say GPU
sup bby
eyyy emil
poor cicada, awake early again on a Saturday
home, fucking finally T_T
home, fucking, finally
00:13
yeah right
@ElimGarak They're less than helpful, but not 4chan.
@Borgleader <3 <3
@TonyTheLion <3<3<3
@Borgleader Weeeeeeeeeeekend :)
00:14
modern remake problems
@TonyTheLion what a relief
@Borgleader hehe :)
morning @GregorMcGregor :)
@AlexM. That is so '95
@GregorMcGregor got plans for Saturday?
00:16
One thing I found among many newbie game devs is that they find saving game state one of the most daunting tasks.
roommate said "I will return the keys of the flat by 9 am so begone before that" but actually I suspect he won't even do it today
Ell
Ell
Fuck
@GregorMcGregor what makes you suspect he won't do it?
@Ell Please don't tell us you have to recompile your kernel?
I am having chicken & corn soup and rosemary lamb for lunch. One is from the can the other I bought from the frozen food section ...
because he's lied in the past to me and the flat is still full of stuff and he's not even home
Ell
Ell
00:17
Should I invoke vomit?
Surely it'll happen later
Last time I had to recompile the kernel is when I was making Ubuntu work relatively well with the Surface Pro.
@ElimGarak for (everything in the game) serialize state
:)
@GregorMcGregor oh makes sense
did i mention i dont know wtf im talking about?
Ell
Ell
Someone respond in the next 10 seconds
00:18
@Borgleader wait.... I thought you were in game dev?
@Ell ba ba ba ba bababababa baba ba
@Ell what happened?
Ell
Ell
I'll take yes as default
@Ell what?
@ElimGarak I remember trying to back in the day and having problems with the most annoying crap like saving physics state so that object falling when saving would also fall when loading
it was under unity
00:18
@Ell Yes
(he is drunk)
@TonyTheLion Our codebase is huge and I have no clue how that part of it works. Also save systems most likely differ wildly across game engines/genres.
glad I'm not making games anymore
@Borgleader ah off course
but again, i dont know how that bit works, i do graphics and im noob even at that
@Jefffrey ah this makes sense
never even came to my mind
which shows you how often I get drunk or deal with drunk people.
ie, almost never
Drinking alcohol is essential to be healthy
@TonyTheLion Good choice. Life is better that way. Drinking is good (IMO), but just getting drunk is much less good, to put it mildly.
@Jefffrey if you only drink a glass or two every other day, yes
@JerryCoffin I never really got the point of just getting drunk for its own sake
00:22
I've tried it a few times, and the hangover the next day was just not worth it
and by a glass, I don't mean a full glass ...
@TonyTheLion If you know what to do you don't get hangover and you also don't feel sick
Still better than that! :D
@TonyTheLion No I. I've seen people do it, but couldn't understand the point.
00:23
I've had 3 hangovers in my life at most
Got drunk many more times than that
@ElimGarak GTA:SA best GTA
It's about drinking enough to get off, but not enough to feel sick
Man, those were simpler times... Forward renderers, max 3 lights... Non physical shading, nobody caring about energy conservation, glossy reflections, global illumination in general... Lighting was basically a dot product and a few per-component multiply adds.
@Jefffrey Yes, if you drink enough water between alcohol intakes, its much better, but still meh
@Jefffrey cough You get off to being drunk?
00:24
You know what I mean :P
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Lenny looks so sassy in this font
Anyway, getting drunk is a huge hit on your body, so yeah, not worth it
@JerryCoffin what's the point of smoking cigarette or doing drugs, what's the point of exercise for a exercise addict - it makes you feeling happier for a while
I guess you can do it like a couple of times a year with no huge consequences, but still.
Now I understand why 64-bit Firefox is not a great idea
00:26
Don't drink kids
@Jefffrey Ewwww! Can I drink adults, instead?
unless it is an irish cream cappuccino, that shit is amazing.
@набиячлэвэлиь only if adults become carrot juice
there's this commercial carrot juice for kids revista-piata.ro/usr/imagini_articoleimage/tedi_sticla.jpg
worst shit in existence
@AlexM. If squeezed sufficiently hard...
And slightly colored afterwards
@AlexM. Ayyyy Kubuś
It's not the greatest, but it's not super bad either
00:29
char *toString(OpcodeType op)`
inb4 RenderDoc DX bytecode disassembly...
lol markdown in code
gg
I remember playing grim fandango back when I was 14
and giving up after the 2nd puzzle
So, five kilometers down riddled in strcmps, free functions and stuff... I see iterator... I hover over it... byte*...
now I went through it for 2 hours w/o problems
@ElimGarak just publishing things doesn't really require you to interact :)
00:34
it's good to know that I have not become dumber as I grew up
Anyways. Current status: time for bed
@chmod666telkitty If people just getting drunk seemed to feel happier for a while from doing it, I could understand it--but at least from what I've seen, that doesn't seem to be the case. In fact, quite a few seem to start out depressed, and when they drink it just gets worse.
Alcohol helps me relax, reduces my inhibitions just enough that I seem sociable. But I don't like going overboard with it because the day after is shit.
you mean you're not sociable?
@ElimGarak Me too--but that only takes a little, not getting really drunk.
@AlexM. I'm an antisocialite.
00:37
@AlexM. Social anxiety is a trademark of mine, but I've been working on it.
you seem sociable here
then again everyone does on the internet
Well, the Lounge is very enjoyable. We have many differences, yet many shared interests. And we come together in really weird ways. It kinda just works.
Almost like real life, actually
Also, I am in a reasonably good mood again for the past week or so, finally got on with the terms that it's very likely the new house will not be completed and rented out until early Feb next year (because Christmas delay things, certifiers would be on holidays, so will be the potential renters during Dec & Jan). So I am just going to take it easy and spend slightly more time on my app business. Also I got half of paper work due out of the way, so it's all good. More time with friends as well.
00:42
@AlexM. Some people seem abrasive even on the Internet. In some cases, I'm pretty sure they're really much nicer in person. In others, probably even worse.
@JerryCoffin I wonder how puppy is IRL
willing to bet he's all fluffy
Puppy is fluffy and I think Cat is, too. I remember him saying his RL friends are what keeps him going.
cat is harder to read
but puppy is full tsundere mode
@TonyTheLion BE MY FLUFFY COMPANION <3
But I like Puppy here, as well. Tony is just a lovely snowflake and one of those folks that can brighten up your day in no time.
00:48
you know whom I think is exactly as online IRL
bartek
that guy is legit
Ahahah, yeah. Bartek is a bit intense.
varies over time though
bartek doesn't spend much time not speaking his mind
6
online personas can't fit in there
not enough time
rightfold is hopefully different when he meets customers
Soooooooooooo tired
00:51
@JohanLarsson it's pretty much impossible to be rightfold IRL
And then we have cinch...
unless you live in a cave
devoid of human contact
@ElimGarak Hi
I am also Bartek intense level of dumb
Except Bartek is not dumb
and I am still intense level of dumb
therefore i am dum
Q.E.D.
00:52
Just try to reduce the amount of self-deprecation. It is as bad as spouting ignorance. Just work on getting better and keep quiet when unsure. :D
I want Overwatch CE
@ElimGarak I think I'm going to learn Python during class
gimme dem art bewks
@Borgleader Preload dat Fallout 4!
"Fahlout Foah: Hella Wicked Pissa Edition"
> For years, No Mutants Allowed, a news site and message board, hung in a happy obscurity. It’s the largest Fallout fansite on the internet and was founded back in the late ‘90s under the shadow of the first two games in the franchise. kotaku.com/…
somewhat old-ish article about the classic fallout cult and the effects of bethesda on them
00:56
@AlexM. Oh, those guys hate Bethesda for what they "did to Fallout" :D
Can't wait to read their impressions of Fallout 4. But I do feel those folks go a bit overboard. Only so much passion is good.
@ElimGarak Meh, I bought Fallout 3 and regretted it. Wont pay full price for that game (i have way too many already anyway)
I don't even know if NMA is still active
@AlexM. Oooh, yes they are. :D
We should talk about The Sims if we want to talk about franchise hate
And every last one of them has shit to say about Fallout 3+.
00:57
@sehe How goes x3?
@ElimGarak cultism like that is never healthy but a point they do have
the bethesda direction is completely different from the classic direction
als de brandweer!
Apparently that is very hard to google//translate so: "very smoothly/rapidly"
p sure bethesda made fallout a FPS because they just didn't want to invest in a new engine
I wouldn't call Bethesda's direction an artistic choice. It is the direct opposite of choice, a function of their slavery to Gamebryo. They made their name with Morrowind and kept replicating the experience, to a point where they skinned Fallout over TES. Because developing tech requires knowledge, yo.
Yes, that.
@Jefffrey gg, you're better than me
all I ever 100% completed were the two nekoparas
00:59
@sehe You... made a lot of noise and wet everything in sight? (it translated to "as the fire brigade)
and all you have to do is play through them
@sehe You're supposed to be sleeping. :P
and make boobs bounce
@Borgleader Yup. You missed out on the streams?

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