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8:00 AM
@Rapptz What's special about it?
 
it exists
 
@BartekBanachewicz no shit :P
 
Xeo
> Certain code that involves non-type template parameters is now correctly checked for type compatibility when you provide explicit template arguments.
hmm
 
@Rapptz Hmm so it does.
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, need to learn about that fun :P For now, just trying to go for verbose logging so I can try to work out if I've fucked the logic whilst updating the code to suit my framework.
 
8:02 AM
What wizardry did you need to pull to get it to build? I heard about some minor build errors issues.
 
@rightfold o_0 It's Tuesday? And what the hell were Dutch liberated from? (inb4 Nazis)
@Rapptz ppa plz
 
3/10
@rubenvb I got some patches from mingw-builds and then I applied some patches from the 5.2 branch to fix other issues.
or well trunk but milestone of 5.2
 
@Rapptz ah ok. Sounds like the issues are getting the fixes they deserve then. How's 5.1 working for you then?
 
they added noisy warnings :v
 
@thecoshman uh seriously get a debugger
@thecoshman gdebugger works on linux
 
8:06 AM
but at least it compiles stuff so I know I didn't break the build
 
@Rapptz Now even more Clang-like!
 
can't wait for -Wcpp98-compat
 
Guys
I need your opinion
 
wokay
 
8:09 AM
@Mr.kbok jk
shoot
 
Ever heard or tried Pony?
 
actor
hmmm
isn't that, how was that called, a part of AOP?
hm, nah.
@Mr.kbok they have type-theory-based proofs for their stuff so so far seems ok
I don't know any of its creators
 
@Mr.kbok I’ve seen the name once or twice. That’s about it.
 
> There are no runtime exceptions. All exceptions have defined semantics, and they are always caught.
 
for i in Range(0, 10) do
  list1.push((i.string(), i))
end
me-not-like
I can see how that might seem "clean" to a lot of people
 
8:16 AM
@BartekBanachewicz aspect OP is meh
 
AOP is uninteresting at best but that's not the point
 
subtle condescension
 
The Pony documentation makes a lot of wild claims so I thought it needed to be looked up you knpw
 
@Mr.kbok I’ve not seen anything too wild so far.
 
@Mr.kbok after the first glance it looks like a "reasonably safe imperative language with mutability"
 
8:19 AM
> the type system ensures at compile time that your concurrent program can never have data races
> Pony has no locks at all!
 
Xeo
> The C++ standard has always forbidden containers of const elements (such as vector<const T> or set<const T>). Visual C++ 2013 and earlier accepted such containers. In the current version, such containers fail to compile.
aww
 
@Mr.kbok does it sound similar to STM to you? :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz STM?
State Monad?
 
(transactional memory)
:D
 
@Mr.kbok Rust makes the same claim btw.
 
8:21 AM

(transactional memory)

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Well, the programs there are not as concurrent though.
 
@LucDanton Except Rust is better at everything
 
@Mr.kbok More seriously I don’t know enough about the theory behind capability systems to comment on the claim. I’d start there.
 
@Mr.kbok so it's more wild stalion than pony :D excellent! <guitar power ditty>
 
@Mr.kbok Really...? It's one of France's most important distinctions :/
 
8:23 AM
I think it uses that to make those claims. Could be for something else though.
> We use capabilities in Pony to statically avoid data races - not for security.
 
@Xeo woah woah, are you complaining that VS is too standards compliant?
 
@LucDanton Really. I'll read about it then
 
@thecoshman Can't win
 
VS insults the standard; it doesn't compliment it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes FUCK YOU RIGHT IN THE POWER SUCKET!
 
8:25 AM
@Mr.kbok HN seems to be useful for once, could give good leads
 
mistake... but I like it :D
 
> If computing power doubles every two years, why is my software running slower than ever?
 
> fatal error C1051: program database file, 'd:\dev\mynd\build\libmynd-test.pdb', has an obsolete format, delete it and recompile
The fuck.
 
Maybe because it's made of layers of jabbascript you sinister fool
6
 
I hit "Rebuild"...
 
8:27 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes DONT TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE
 
FUCKing smooth scrolling
fuck this website and language and everything
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes They clearly told you to hit 'delete' and then 'recompile'.
 
@Cicada I'll scroll your fuck smoothly
 
time to disappear
bye guys
 
nite~
 
8:30 AM
> many large companies such as Sony, Panasonic, NEC and Toshiba deal with excess labor capacity by offering voluntary retirement programs and by sending unnecessary workers to "chasing-out rooms" where they are held with minimal work responsibilities until they decide to resign.
wut
how is "minimal work responsibilities" making anyone quit
 
@Rapptz Bye.
@Rapptz You're missing the heart.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Boredom. It's a common technique.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Search "banishment rooms".
 
> When I am at home alone, I am never ever bored. I can find too many things to do, from reading, writing, drawing, learning foreign languages, etc. Doing the same few humdrum things all day every day on someone else's schedule, now that's boredom for you.
> If I was in Ted's shoes and forbidden to take anything in, hey, I would use the time to sleep and the rest of the day do my Me stuff. It would be like winning the lottery
@MarkGarcia yeah guess where that quote is from
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@BartekBanachewicz it's common in IT.. you get a manager who sucks and can't distribute work or even schedule it
even if there are tons of work for everyone: you're always stuck. If you take initiative, you get a lot of troubles whatever you do, and you might have to garbage all your code.
so you do nothing the whole day. You can't work, you don't have work. You can't waste time on facebook, that would make your manager angry. You "exist in the office"
like a flower, more or less
 
8:35 AM
Yeah they do that in France too. It's quite common actually
 
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@Columbo "honey? Is that you?"
 
Check them all out: pulptastic.com/…
 
> Rename haste-inst to haste-cabal.
woah
 
> These 40 Cartoons Perfectly Illustrate How Smartphones Have Taken Over Our Lives
Speak for yourself
 
8:40 AM
@Columbo are you from SL ?
 
@JudeNiroshan What's that
@Cicada +1
 
@BartekBanachewicz ... I'd take the minimal work room, just to spite them :D
 
@ok. That says the answer. You are not. SL = Sri Lanka :)
 
@JudeNiroshan I was in Sri Lanka once
 
@Columbo yeah he totally needs therapy
 
8:42 AM
@StackedCrooked What a dick to his gf
 
LOL
 
@Columbo terrific
 
2 mins ago, by StackedCrooked
ikr
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
8:45 AM
I wish I could manipulate the stack heap too
 
@MarcoA. std::smanip
 
@Columbo oh cool
 
avast ads are extremely annoying
 
@Cicada I haven't been using an anti-virus in years and never caught a virus. Then my little brother used my pc..
 
It's a work PC. I don't use antivirus on my personal machines either.
 
8:48 AM
Eww letting other people touch your computer
Gross
 
I didn't want him to, but he turned my browsing history into a security threats list
also: porn
lots of them
damn puberty
 
@Cicada argh, they be mighty pains in the boh-tox!
 
@MarcoA. So do you guys have the same tastes?
 
@Cicada #@$!
 
lol
Guys the hottest girl just came into the room
I think she's here for an interview
 
8:57 AM
fap as hard as you can
 
No I think I'll feign to be working
(also you're gross)
 
@Mr.kbok What? I've been here for the whole day
 
@Mr.kbok k :(
 
she's even hotter than you @Cicada sorry
 
Might be Ebola
 
9:00 AM
ebola what?
 
Just a temperature joke
 
where is LRiO, this hottest chick fight could be fun with that ... err ... yeah
 
@chmod711telkitty He is not showing her cleavage any more, unfortunately.
 
@BartekBanachewicz aw Italy is even behind Japan
 
9:04 AM
@BartekBanachewicz The UK and the US don't even score!
 
fuck is a _timeb
 
a time bomb?
 
A time bomb that goes off prematurely.
 
Xeo
lol
 
haha
 
9:05 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes looking at pirate, they should do the test there too
 
@Mr.kbok Is she displaying her cleavage?
 
lol
 
lol, I don't think so. I didn't check
I can't see her right now she's behind me
 
Xeo
@Mr.kbok Display a giant "HI" on your screen
 
Okay too late she's gone
 
9:09 AM
@Xeo Windows 8 installation would take too long.
 
starfish the answer is no, though if that was the case I'd make sure to fill a complaint for indecency to management
This is a respectable institution
 
applause
 
@Mr.kbok genre
 
You know what I mean.
 
I didn't get enough sleep again :\
I feel like crap
 
9:14 AM
this thing works and it shouldn't
 
@AlexM. why?
 
I don't know I woke up in the middle of my sleep
I mean in the middle of the sleep period
you get it
 
@MarkGarcia spot on, sir
 
@AlexM. ye
 
Segmented sleep, also known as divided sleep, bimodal sleep pattern, bifurcated sleep, or interrupted sleep, is a polyphasic or biphasic sleep pattern where two or more periods of sleep are punctuated by periods of wakefulness. Along with a nap (siesta) in the day, it has been argued that this is the natural pattern of human sleep. A case has been made that maintaining such a sleep pattern may be important in regulating stress. Historian A. Roger Ekirch has argued that before the Industrial Revolution, segmented sleep was the dominant form of human slumber in Western civilization. He draws evidence...
 
Xeo
9:17 AM
@AlexM. Eh, ask me. I've been waking up at 6am the last few days thanks to Taiga :P
 
I opened the bunch of tabs on recruiting
why did I do that
now I have to read all that crap
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fuck, I am sleeping like dead every night.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes natural or not it doesn't help me atm :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz lots of bull too, probably
 
@BartekBanachewicz to recruit you need a specific amount of minerals and vespene gas
there, no need to thank me
 
9:20 AM
n1
 
Guess someone saw the word 'fuck'.
Fuck, there's the word 'fuck' again.
 
what the actual flag
 
Mod in 3... 2...
 
we are fucked
 
9:24 AM
hey romania's on that map
hi mum
 
vatican city is missing
 
I heard you like flagging, so I flagged your flag post
 
@AlexM. you're 5 times as large as Slovakia dude; wtf - ofc you're there :)
 
andorra and s. marino seem to be there, though
 
uff... why does that globe reminds me of agar.io?
 
9:25 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Nice spotlight:
 
@ScarletAmaranth TIL
 
@MarcoA. what doesn't? It's been days that I haven't seen you mention anything else
 
@MarcoA. ikr
 
@AlexM. Romania isn't small
 
@sehe bladder 404 - niels selection stony
 
9:26 AM
that thing is a drug
 
@ScarletAmaranth yeah I looked at the map now, it's actually pretty OKish
 
@MarcoA. The map is not right
 
it would've been even bigger if we hadn't lost Moldova (now Republic of)
 
@sehe It's a 404 error (page not found)
Source: I can read Polish
 
yeah Italy would be bigger too if we hadn't lost half of europe when the roman empire collapsed
 
9:28 AM
@Cicada really. o.O
Well. Apparently they can't into websites
 
@sehe Yes!
 
Thanks dude
 
Meanwhile, in French Guiana.
 
@AndyProwl you know I wondered a few days ago
 
@sehe np.
 
9:29 AM
the Romans had these pseudo self-constant-flushing toilets or sth
and yet for some reason they weren't kept by the civs that followed them
 
Also known as shitting in the creek
 
IIRC everyone was shitting on the ground in the middle of each village/town/hamlet/medieval metropolis
 
@AlexM. It is called broken toilet now.
 
@AlexM. You mean you don't do that anymore?
 
@AndyProwl When the Roman Empire collapsed there was no Italy in it, and it didn't hold anything close to half of Europe
 
9:30 AM
@Cicada :A
 
@AlexM. There was the nightsoil business, although I’m not sure what periods and places it was relevant for.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It was a joke
 
@AlexM. Shit is good for the soil
 
Never make inaccurate jokes in the Lounges :D
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wait
 
9:31 AM
@LucDanton you're right, I forgot about that
 
Inner classes in C++ are nearly useless right
 
@AlexM. Okay, OK is OKish, not Romania :P
 
@Mr.kbok they're stylish and thus you should use them
 
@AndyProwl I knew, I just can't stop myself from reminding people the Roman Empire lasted until the 15th century and they spoke Greek.
 
Nobody's perfect
 
9:32 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess that's a topic that comes up often discussing with your friends at a bar
 
I mean they have absolutely no special rules whatsoever
 
we usually get drunk and make the same kind of discussions
 
@Mr.kbok Yeah. Only difference is access control (to the class head as a type name).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, well, my reference was to earlier times, when they spoke Latin and reigned over less than half of Europe
 
@LucDanton reminded me of
> The Gong Pit is used to dispose of gong to protect peasantry from disease in Stronghold 2.
 
9:33 AM
@LucDanton Ah, right
 
must've been tough being a shit farmer
 
behold inner inner classes
where does it end
 
@AlexM. Well, the alternative was bat guano in far off islands. Pricey!
 
Btw not much less if you don't consider Russia
 
@LucDanton inb4 ebola
 
9:35 AM
@AndyProwl That's actually funnier in context, because the name "Romania" comes from the name of the Roman Empire in the East.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not just Greek
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hope LRiO doesn't see that, or I'll have to disambiguate between "Okay" the response and "Okay" the place from now on cough
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes See, we totally pwned them
 
Wait, I mixed it up. Bat guano is from the local caves, it’s bird guano from South America.
I need to get my shit together.
 
@AndyProwl You might be misjudging the size of Scandinavia. The common Mercator projection distorts area ratios.
 
9:38 AM
@LucDanton Spot on.
 
Though I guess it distorts Scandinavia to be bigger than it should, so forget what I said.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 2D maps suck, we need spherical screens
 
@sehe what
 
they can't into static web pages
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I'm aware of that. That still kind of looks like "half of Europe" to me, although it might be just a visual effect. If you include also the territories in Africa and Middle East it does sum up to something like half of Europe, excluding Russia
But again it was just a (bad) joke
 
9:44 AM
>2015
>Distinguishing Africa and Middle East from Europe
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I guess northern territories get distorted a lot. Greenland is almost as big as Africa on many maps
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you should be restrained from Wikipedia
 
@AndyProwl Bigger.
2
 
Even bigger?
 
9:46 AM
 
You mean it's not big, just very distorted?
 
Baiting for stars?
 
> In computing, aspect-oriented programming (AOP) is a patented programming paradigm
can I patent OOP
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bartek's stars are cheap
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is Earth a respected cartographer I have not heard of?
 
9:49 AM
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's patented? what? how? who by?
 
...
 
Xerox ¬_¬ those fuckers
 
who the fuck would patent logging
 
9:52 AM
Americunts Forward thinkers
 
@thecoshman omg flaggers gonna flag
you guys will summon the mad flagger
 
Scandinavia bigger than it should be? Does not compute :p
 
> In the past 30 years, it rained 4 out of 30 times on this day.
 
> Nearly all programming paradigms support some level of grouping and encapsulation of concerns into separate, independent entities by providing abstractions (...) Some concerns "cut across" multiple abstractions in a program, and defy these forms of implementation.
 
wow, what a useful statistic.
 
9:55 AM
I wish ubisaft allowed you to side with the "bad" guy in far cry 4
all endings are so meh
 
> Many experts would agree that, had it not been for expert systems, the deployment of superblocks might never have occurred. Existing reliable and concurrent systems use the exploration of write-back caches to improve virtual machines. Further, The notion that scholars collaborate with scalable configurations is entirely well-received. To what extent can linked lists be investigated to realize this objective?
ofc
 
> Firstly, aspect-oriented programming is patented,[1] and thus not freely implementable.
lmao
 
@MarcoA. Reads like scigen.
 
@melak47 Of course! It allows us to know this day wasn’t a February 29.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
 
9:57 AM
@BartekBanachewicz In countries where the patent hold (not the EU).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well said, it is scigen :D
 
"Lossless Epistemologies" is awesome.
 
yeah, in case you have alzheimer during your researches
 

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