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3:00 PM
gigabit plan with specific routers on tests
 
@Mekap maybe, but I could get 25MB most of the tme
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz factorio!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, and what do you do ten minutes later?
 
@AlexM. at those speeds it's basically faster than local HDD copies most of the time
 
3:00 PM
@Mr.kbok 200 is kinda overkill now, but in a few year i'd hope to see it become the norm :X
 
cc @CatPlusPlus
@R.MartinhoFernandes uh, play the game?
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes they recommend SSDs only
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh wow, it breaks the laws of physics?
 
I'd like to replace the shitty vendor modem though, but I'm not sure this is actually possible
 
@BartekBanachewicz I pay $80cad/mo for limited total bandwidth (90gb), 12mbps down, 0.8 up
 
3:01 PM
@Ven Nobody I've seen does. When you get down to it, the claims basically come down to: "yes, in every comparison you can reasonably hope to do, C++ will win--but for really huge programs that you can't even imagine writing twice to do a direct, objective comparison...those are the ones where Java will definitely win, and win huge."
 
Well it is faster than HDDs, that's why HDD becomes the bottleneck
My Steam waits for a disk a lot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes HDD -> RAM vs Internet -> SSD -> RAM?
 
Well, the comparison is pointless if you don't have an HDD.
 
I still wouldn't buy an SSD for Steam, because it won't fit
 
that's what she said
 
3:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have 152Mbps and I don't really know why
 
Never enough speed
 
@CatPlusPlus I bought 256 and it's k
 
Ven
@JerryCoffin Thanks
 
Anyway, I have my whole Steam library on disk.
 
Ven
"Inline ALL megamorphic calls" I guess
 
3:02 PM
@fredoverflow To which roughly 90% of the answers boil down to: "I love Java. Don't you dare call it slow!"
 
My Steam is something about 400GB atm
 
I am going to admit I am thinking about a RAID matrix though
 
Your top played game @CatPlusPlus ?
 
and an NFS in a cupboard or something
 
If I wanted to have the whole library on disk then it'd be like 10TB
 
user1804599
3:03 PM
@Ell what is py2neo
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit FWIW, we're six sharing our connection, even though I always get the impression no one really uses it.
 
user1804599
I have only used Neo4j from PHP.
 
Ell
@rightfold neo4j python bindings
ah okay
 
Ven
\o @rightfold
 
Okay maybe more about 5
But still
Good luck finding that SSD
 
3:03 PM
@Mr.kbok if it's a fibre modem it has a possiblity of being decent. I'm going to disable WiFi on it and get Wifi from my Cisco anyway
 
Disable WiFi and keep it disabled
Fuck WiFi
 
@CatPlusPlus Mine's around 1TB.
 
user1804599
@Ven Do you write your C++ code as if it is Java code or as if it is C++ code?
 
@CatPlusPlus right, browsing for recipes in the kitchen is forbidden by law
 
Ven
@rightfold Neither.
 
3:04 PM
or do you print yours
or maybe use a pen to write words off screen
like a fucking animal
 
I print them and laminate them.
 
I read the recipe to get the general idea and then eyeball things
 
Bartek so l33t.
 
user1804599
@Ven The performance of a program depends on the program and language implementations.
 
ITT using your home wifi is "so l33t"
 
user1804599
3:05 PM
Not on the language.
 
Ven
@rightfold I had no idea about that
 
You just need to use your 3D printer and print your food directly.
 
Ven
sighs
 
@BartekBanachewicz ITT using a pen is animalistic.
 
No need for wifi
 
3:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes thought we established that already
@Mekap what if the printer is in another room
 
GoG.com released their desktop client (open beta) today
 
What if I want to store my Steam library ~in the cloud~
 
> GOG Galaxy features one-click installation and auto-updates for its library of over 1000 titles, but it also stays true to GOG.com values: it’s all optional. Automatic updating can be disabled for any game; but if you leave it on and a patch breaks something, GOG Galaxy will offer its rollback feature to restore a previous version of the game. Gamers can also download a standalone, DRM-free backup copy of every game, so keeping purchases safe is easier than ever.
 
@Prismatic limited bandwidth is suck
 
@AlexM. Wee, updates
 
3:07 PM
@CatPlusPlus never not set up a raid matrix at home
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'll do that too; I have bad reception in my flat
 
> Java was designed to be thread-aware from the beginning, and it shows. Modern computers usually feature multiple cores, and because threading is built into the language, you can very easily take advantage. Basically an extra 100% to 300% speed boost vs. standard, single-threaded C code. Yes, carefully written C threading and libraries can beat this, but that's a lot of extra work for the programmer.
 
I wish my basement was directly below
so I could put Overmind there
 
Never set up a RAID0 :v
 
@CatPlusPlus forget that I'm excited about the achievements and time tracking
 
user1804599
3:07 PM
@Prismatic lol
 
fuck RAID0
 
time tracking & achievements > all
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can use a Netgear 85Mbps Powerline Network Adapter Kit and use that instead of that damned wifi !
 
5+ HDDs or fuck it
 
Since when does Java automagically threadify your code
 
3:08 PM
@rightfold It can also depend on the language. Just for an obvious example, Fortran still pretty much rules for heavy number crunching. C and C++ both allow aliasing, which makes it nearly impossible for even a stupendously good C or C++ compiler to keep up with even a fairly average Fortran compiler.
 
@Mekap this is indeed an option.
but there's also my phone
and my ultrabook
 
@BartekBanachewicz Among you smug l33t folks, yes.
 
and possibly my tablet because they gave me a shitty tablet for free
and dunno what else
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
user1804599
tablets were used in ancient tiems
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can write on unpowered surfaces????
 
user1804599
3:09 PM
you're either ancient or hipster
 
wouldn't restrict help somewhat?
 
user1804599
not leet
 
a kindle
 
@Prismatic Since never, of course (and for the cases where it's easy in Java, it's typically even easier with OpenMP).
 
and my fridge perhaps
 
user1804599
3:09 PM
kindly stop reading
 
and my lights at home
oh and my washing machine someday I guess
 
but then again the audio streamer
or perhaps guests at home
nah no reason to use WiFi
 
> Libraries are often written for "correctness" and readability, not performance. In my opinion, this is the main reason Java still has a bad reputation, especially server-side.
 
@BartekBanachewicz use the 3G for your phone / tablet. BUT NO WIFI §§§
 
3:10 PM
Yeah who'd want correct readable code on servers
Crazy
 
@Mekap yeah very reasonable :P
 
user1804599
 
I didn't buy a 600Mbps WiFi router for nothing
 
Yeah you did
Now listen to strangers on internet and throw that into the garbage can.
 
> Strings include length: some operations are faster. This beats using null-delimited strings (common in C). In Java 7, Oracle took out the String.subString() optimization, because people were using it stupidly and getting memory leaks.
 
3:11 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You bought it so you can use your 100Mbps uplink, duh.
 
@Mekap Cat on the internet said so case closed
@R.MartinhoFernandes there's also the thing called local network
also I had 250 before so there's that
 
Oh right, pirating blu-ray movies to your fridge.
 
low-calorie network
 
why do you assume I pirate things just because I have a fast connection
you connectionist
 
I can't wait for a fridge AI
 
3:12 PM
dieting one byte at a time
 
it's gonna be awseome
 
@Mekap she'd be a cold motherfucker
 
I really want too hook up my lights to wifi but the starter for Philips Hue is like €250
so maybe next year
 
14 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I dunno what to do with our 100Mbps thing besides pirating things, and I usually don't pirate things.
 
If I had that kind of connection Id stream Twitch at HIGH quality
and I wouldn't even have to keep an eye on my bandwidth consumption!
 
3:14 PM
@Prismatic that's the shitty part
well I stream in HD because 2GB on my phone is enough
if I had a 1080p screen it could be annoying though
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ICY what you did there, and it gave me the shills.
 
lol you think you can get 600Mbps out of WiFi
 
Ancient
 
3:17 PM
And now i want to play crystal maiden. :/
 
@CatPlusPlus 802.11ac, bitch
 
802.11wilddreams
 
@CatPlusPlus n dualband can get even more
ac even more more
 
On paper
 
Just look and a y intervención o comentaría — user4855086 41 secs ago
 
3:19 PM
@CatPlusPlus stop buying shitty hardware vOv
 
so, what to buy
 
I couldn't get a cheap 100Mbps ethernet switch to work at 80+ either
so there's that
 
Stop buying into crappy technology
 
just because you had bad experiences with shitty hardware doesn't make the whole technology crappy jesus
 
3:20 PM
lol
 
@Mr.kbok I am quite happy with my Cisco, but the market has moved forward I suppose
@CatPlusPlus yes this is a very intelligent and reasonable response.
fuck out of the discussion if everything you want to bring is your shitty opinions and frog lexemes
 
You should have said "frog out"
 
3:21 PM
Have fun with your unreliable radio nonsense
 
ITT "crappy jesus"
 
Now why do you not work ZooKeeper
 
Flagness Races in Orbit
 
I didn't do nothing
 
3:22 PM
Please stop toying with tools you don't fully understand
 
I have 60Mbit connection, does the job. Especially since I wouldn't splash out on 802.11ac router
 
@CatPlusPlus it's not like I'm hosting a 7-nines medical supply equipment on it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So you did something
 
This idiotic flag system
Let's go to IRC already
 
let's write a better chat
 
3:24 PM
Yes. IRC has permbans.
 
IRC ftw
 
Funny how the only people here who routinely complain about "idiotic" chat is the people who keep getting punished for their unacceptable behaviour within it.
 
If this were IRC I think Cat wouldn't be here anymore :D
 
Bullshit
 
IIRC ftw
 
3:25 PM
I never got punished for anything
 
/me doesn't work on SO :(
 
yo but what about the pictures
 
@CatPlusPlus they also didn't make a case against Capone within a day
 
and sharing questions and wiki things
None of that works on IRC
 
3:26 PM
It's all links
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Here, have an ironic star. You know you're the most banned user in this room right?
 
Some IRC clients have preview
 
@Prismatic Oh noes, because boxing is the most important feature of the chat. lol
 
But it's really who gives a fuck jesus
 
Transcript doesn't work on IRC IIRC
 
3:27 PM
Fact: you can't talk to people without fancy web technology
 
what about the starboard
 
Setup a logging bot, done.
 
@BartekBanachewicz The crapboard
 
I'll do a bot soonish~
 
@Cicada You know I'm far from that, right?
 
3:27 PM
It shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes.
 
Also we can do much better search that way
 
@Cicada still has an important meaning here
 
There are ready bots written.
 
why don't we try Miaou
 
The only times I get suspended from here is when you go on idiotic trollsome flagging sprees like you did the other night.
 
3:27 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We asked BoltClock stats, you and I are the most suspended users in this last year.
 
Which IRC clients have previews for pictures? Are there any on Linux
 
@Cicada I'm talking about suspensions for behaviour, not suspensions for being victims of a troll like you.
 
@Prismatic I think if there are any - it will be on linux
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I am oblivious to your compliments
 
Wait, how come I can see what Cicada says?
Phew, fixed.
Now, where were we, grown-ups?
 
3:28 PM
yesterday, by BoltClock
@Cicada Congratulations you are neck and neck with LRiO
 
lol he fixes that about every 3 days
 
51 secs ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@Cicada I'm talking about suspensions for behaviour, not suspensions for being victims of a troll like you.
Try reading.
 
You nasty troll you
 
5 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
People need to plonk less and listen more
2
 
3:29 PM
Oh yes the other time was when Bartek went on a flagging rampage against me because I was being "toxic and provocative" lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I tried
 
@BartekBanachewicz You really think Cicada counts?
 
lol the hypocrisy
 
I love being an exception for LRiO
 
"Hypocrisy"?
Hmm let's see.
 
3:30 PM
Lrio de Janeiro !
 

Amusing hypocrisy

Apr 23 at 15:41, 4 minutes total – 36 messages, 9 users, 8 stars

Bookmarked Apr 23 at 16:15 by Lightness Races in Orbit

Yes, I agree!
Wait, how come I can see what Bartek says?
Phew, fixed.
 
@Mekap Joke done last week by I don't remember who
 
@Cicada throw Cicada();
 
this is getting hilrious
 
3:30 PM
5 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
People need to plonk less and listen more
 
hilrious
 
It was me @Cicada . I love redoing things.
 
Who would be admin if you all created an IRC room
 
inb4 "Phew, fixed."
 
3:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus "mods are asleep, post haskell"?
 
Anyway I'm here all day errday, feel free to plonk at will, makes me cum everytime
 
plonk ?
 
@Prismatic Cat. That's why we haven't moved yet
 
@Mekap plonk
 
user1804599
Mods never sleep.
 
3:31 PM
He'd be the OP then
 
I'm already OP
 
Everyone could be an op. :P
 
Wanna see
 
user1804599
No, you're POOP.
 
make haskell code not kicks
 
3:32 PM
If Cat starts a room it'd be called Lounge<C#>
 
I'd kick LRiO but okay
If you don't want
 
Wait, how come I can see what Cat says?
Phew, fixed.
 
Don't kick him too much we still need him to come back
He's entertaining
 
Do we
 
An IRC room wouldn't have plonking though
 
3:32 PM
All IRC clients in existence have ignore function
 
@Prismatic IRC clients from the last 250 years have an ignore feature
 
Plus it has channel mute
 
Oh
 
All hail the channel mute !
 
It has strictly better ~plonking~
 
3:33 PM
There should be a spin-off Lounge for grown-ups only
 
Would be empty
 
Yes please
 
i.e. no Bartek, Cat, thegoshman, Cicada, rightfold, those sort of people
2
 
Brb, going to repond poorly on SO
 
/join #loungecpp
 
3:34 PM
like a 12+ years only Lounge
 
It's on Freenode
btw
 
Yeah and I'm the owner :)
So good luck getting in, Cat.
 
we have an IRC channel?
 
Yeah no
 
@AlexM. No someone tried it and I stole it
To prove how silly it was
I'm accidentally parking it atm
 
3:34 PM
why don't yous write a chat in haskell?
 
-ChanServ- Information on #loungecpp:
-ChanServ- Founder : CatPlusPlus
-ChanServ- Successor : freenode-staff
-ChanServ- Registered : May 04 06:40:52 2015 (1d 8h 53m 57s ago)
-ChanServ- Mode lock : +npstQC
-ChanServ- URL : http://loungecpp.net
-ChanServ- Entrymsg : *insert rules here*
-ChanServ- Flags : SECURE VERBOSE KEEPTOPIC GUARD
-ChanServ- *** End of Info ***
So bloop bloop you suck
 
what
No, it's ##loungecpp, cretin
 
why not writing haskell in cat ?
 
You should have a sweet intro message when you enter the room with a bunch of FANCY ASCII
 
We own the group, we can use primary namespace
 
3:35 PM
You've used the wrong channel name syntax for Freenode
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know this word :O !
 
You can't use primary namespace for the word "LoungeCpp" lol
 
@Lightness wait, I'm a grown-up?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sorry
 
3:36 PM
No, you don't know how channel names work on Freenode (also nobody cares anyway)
 
I thought ## was for official name channels like OpenGL
qt isn't ##
 
Yeah it's not like I've been an active user of Freenode since it was founded smh
Cat knows best, as always
 
so much hate?
 
I have an ICQ account with an id < 25000
headshot
 
> Primary groups are those which have a formal or informal claim on the names associated with their groups or projects.
bloop bloop
 
3:36 PM
@Prismatic Just an observation.
What is this "bloop bloop"? Are you a kids' toy now?
 
I always loved e-penis battle
 
Regular Lounge drama
 
@Prismatic Or a random Vlad/Alf quote
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That was a short plonk
 
@milleniumbug That's just the way you're interpreting our good-natured banter between friends.
 
3:37 PM
For your benefit, it says " They can reserve primary channels on the network." after that
So yeah good job on that note
smh
 
It's for your benefit, not mine.
 
> The short version is that official channels (also known as primary channels) are named starting with one #, unofficial (topical or about channels) start with ##. If your channel is not an official one, please use ## at the start of the channel name, or you may be asked to move.
 
It has nothing to do with me; I'm not even in the channel doofus lol
 
Maybe that's why i sank all thoses hours in mobas
 
Wow I was totally wrong
 
3:38 PM
E-penis battles are awesome.
 
@Mekap sank
 
ty
 
Anyway good luck with your channel that has four people in it :thumbsup:
 
As usual can't admit being wrong on every count
 
@Cicada dank
 
3:38 PM
Do one, Cat.
 
Foour excepptional ppeople
 
As long it doesn't have you it's strictly better
laff
 
God, children.
I really am plonking dipshit now
 
Lightness Rages in orbit
6
I'll put music to that
 
Yesss
 
3:39 PM
Hey mister
 
is mekap cicada
actually nvm
 
cicada is here
 
Stop it Alex
 
Cicada is everyone it seems
 
3:39 PM
Everytime someone acts slightly retarded you're like "is this Cicada"
 
Last night he was Cicada and nick at the same time so don't be surprised if he's still here too
I guess trolling everybody as just one person was getting too boring for him and he needed some more entertaining
 
Trollception
 
@Cicada now now, I know you like the attention <3
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Says the guy with an alt lol (I don't have alts, Ii just change nicks)
 
I don't know how i should take this :X
 
3:41 PM
It's a mat with conclusions you can jump to!
 
@Mekap It's not a compliment, I'm afraid :(
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I accidentally oppd you
 
@Mekap lol
 
Ell
do you remember that?
OP'd
 
@Ell Ah so it was you
7 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@AlexM. No someone tried it and I stole it
 
Ell
3:41 PM
I did it as a joke but it turned out to be the actual syntax :'(
 
;)
ARGH GODDAMN STOP RAINING FFS
 
Get out of UK
 
hey
someone wants to help with my algorithm? ^^
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dooes it for free
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
3:42 PM
Go away.
 
why :P
 
I'll help
 
Sure. Don't mind the rude people. Ask away.
 
rewrite everything from stracth
 
This is a chat room on Stack Overflow, after all! :-)
 
3:43 PM
there's my help
 
I'll help more than LRiO pm me your question
 
@T_01 LRiO will help
 
Not some creche..
 
laffo
 
@T_01 Have you tried debugging?
 
3:44 PM
Have you tried jumping
 
have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
> okay.. it's java but i don't think that changes something
i laughed
 
> Parabola provides a 'your-freedom' package that conflicts with every known unfree package coming from Arch
lol
 
@Marco Sorry to insist but did you ask your colleagues how they implemmented indirect jumps/recursion?
 
@Polo
 
3:46 PM
@CatPlusPlus I love that scene
 
Today I saw a mainland chinese shit in public in the street
 
Ell
[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]. What is [2,3,4,5,6,7,8] called? The tail?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
@Cicada actually no, I totally forgot of the matter. Have you found any answers online?
 
3:48 PM
@MarcoA. You know NVIDIA isn't particularly communicative on these topics
 
@Ell head/tail, x:xs
 
There. I writed a poorly answer.
 
heh that lightness rage
 
@Ell CDR
 
@Ell Tail yes
 
3:50 PM
What "rage"?
You have quite the imagination. Then again, most toddlers do.
2
 
@Ell yes, tail
 
@Ell Yes.
@khajvah Is it compiled against libiberty?
 
yay, i got 10 magical internet points
i'm so happy
 
Well done
Careful though, don't express too much emotion! Bartek might think you're having a "rage".
3
 
I cast away my rage playing Touhou games
It works well
 
3:52 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit libliberty.so.1
 
@khajvah that's a different library
 
@khajvah -lliberty
 
GNU libiberty is a software library with a collection of subroutines used by various GNU programs. It was originally intended to be a sort of standard cross-platform library, thus enabling it to be linked (using the usual Unix library form) by just saying "-liberty". The contents consisted of a variety of useful functions. However, the development of standards for C and POSIX took away some of the impetus for this, and libiberty came to be used primarily as a support library for the GNU toolchain. Copies of libiberty are distributed with gcc, gdb, and the binutils. One important piece of libiberty...
 
@Mekap Rep isn't worthy of note/mention unless it exceeds (at least) 300 points in a day. Probably not worthy of note even then, but definitely not otherwise.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I thought you were joking :D
 
3:54 PM
@khajvah I never joke
Everything about me is totally serious
 
@JerryCoffin So i can't be cool and brag about points if they're below 300 ?
What a shameful day.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Just like Cicada
 
@khajvah That's right; Cicada is a beacon of hope and light to serious people everywhere. We aspire to be just like him!
 
@Mekap You can brag if you want--but "cool" becomes open to a lot more question.
 
3:55 PM
is/was @Cicada Momotap Limpopo
 
I told you; Cicada is like 60% of the chatters in this room.
 
I miss momotapa
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks fot the headsup anyway.
 
3:56 PM
Is Cicada also Park YoungBae or whomever
 
lol
 
someone is just realizing
 
I had a vague idea
 
3:56 PM
me too actually
 
@Prismatic yes
 
i had a suspicion
 
Park Young is my bae
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No offence taken
 
inb4 "dat 'no offence'"
 
3:57 PM
My next nickname is actually Tomalak Getrekt'all
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yup--in fact, pretty much everybody who changes their user name is alike that way.
 
Scheduled for may 13
 
@Cicada you should keep it secret
 
oh god we're getting major feature creep at work suddenly
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
3:57 PM
I thought we had this shit under control
The only people at mgmt layer who had started to make an effort to keep things running sensibly seem to have given up :(
Of course it's only their underlings who then suffer
 
I am starting to like boxing
 
Well, my day of work is over, time to go home
 
see ya later' boys
 
@khajvah Integer.valueOf(42)
 
3:58 PM
I mean Mekap
 
Bye love~
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :(
You're such a bully :')
 
makeup
@milleniumbug I didn't get it :(
 
I want to read good questions on Stack Overflow. But I keep finding bad ones. Thanks in advance. — Lightness Races in Orbit 6 secs ago
 
@khajvah It's "boxing"
 

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