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4:01 AM
btw I wasn't sure w.r.t. --enable-fully-dynamic-string and gcc 5.1.0
do you usually enable that or no?
 
I leave it at the default, which I think is off.
I actually have no idea what the default is, the man page doesn’t tell.
 
it's off by default
 
Mmmh the man page doesn’t say anything about ABI but the associated PR has comments on ABI compatibility. More confusion.
 
Well considering basic_string changed, does the issue still apply?
 
I would guess 'no' but have no idea.
 
4:12 AM
@Feeds Poor chairmen need to be assisted now! This whole language is going downhill.
When a pack of chips is labeled "made with real potato" it makes me wonder what the others are made of.
inb4 "real manioc, ofc"
 
Real asbestos almost exclusively.
 
fake potatoes
 
That is what they would want you to believe
The truth is much darker!
 
@Cicada Or rice.
 
Lacist!
I wonder how long I'll be able to sustain these 50-hours weeks
 
4:24 AM
Pringles is a brand of potato and wheat-based stackable snack chips owned by the Kellogg Company. Originally marketed as "Pringles Newfangled Potato Chips", Pringles are sold in more than 140 countries, and have yearly sales of more than US$1.4 billion. They were originally developed by Procter & Gamble (P&G), who first sold the product in 1967. P&G sold the brand to Kellogg in 2012. == History == Pringles were first sold in 1967, and distributed internationally by 1975. P&G wanted to create a perfect chip to address consumer complaints about broken, greasy, and stale chips, as well as air in the...
USAn
Although I was mistaken in overplaying rice I guess
 
> Pringles is a brand of potato
 
> Pringles is a brand
see? no potato
 
> History == Pringles
True
> P&G wanted to create a perfect chip to address consumer complaints about broken, greasy, and stale chips
Could be mistaken for AMD & Intel
So P&G created Pringx86
The first potato-based micro computer
With a wheat-based stackable instruction set
mov bowl, [cereals]
add milk
 
> Pringles is
^ existentialism
 
And KellGod said: let there be Pringles. And there were. And it was good, but rich in saturated fats and cholesterol.
 
4:36 AM
lol stack heap
how'd I miss that
 
My stack is bigger than yours
 
> for (auto i : f) { // warning here isn't meaningful - const auto& is wrong and auto&& implies move semantics that are not relevant
what
> For simple value types, auto is no more or less correct than auto&&, const auto or const auto& except that the last two may incur a performance overhead.
whattttttttt
 
STL?
 
@Rapptz Some guy replying to him
 
Makes perfect sense to me
 
4:42 AM
am I the only person that doesn't use twitter?
 
It's as clear as jabbascript to me
@orlp Yes, even Koko the little nigerian dying of malnourishment at age 4 uses it
 
 
Clearly hes trying to say 'auto' will cause a recursive memory leak on the stack heap
 
> recursive memory leak
lol
please do explain how a memory leak can be recursive
 
by leaking more memory
 
4:45 AM
is it magically finding more memory inside the memory that was already leaked?
 
how is that a difficult to grasp
 
matryoshka memory
@Cicada that doesn't make it recursive
for a memory leak to qualify as 'recursive' it has to repeat in some self-similar way
 
And what did I just say?
 
something that doesn't illustrate self-similarity
 
Morning.
 
4:48 AM
anyone know this song? vine.co/v/OTV9PzpJlZO
 
@orlp void f() { auto x = new int; f(); }
 
@Rapptz that's a memory leak inside a recursive function
not a recursive memory leak
 
Playing on words are you? How do you expect to have a constructive discussion with that kind of attitude? Wow.
 
boring as hell
 
a recursive memory leak would be a memory leak that causes more memory to be leaked when it happens
I can imagine it happening with some badly coded allocator
 
4:50 AM
5 mins ago, by orlp
please do explain how a memory leak can be recursive
There you go.
QED
 
well, 5 minutes ago I didn't think of the allocator
hence my question
it was legitimate curiosity =/
 
Does that work like legitimate rape?
 
it's not curiosity if the brain gets pregnant?
 
5:04 AM
Is reddit down for you guys?
 
maintenance
 
I'm living in the wrong timezone.
 
5:06 AM
Getting the garbage of the internet.
 
TIL about this site
yet it's used by other people
 
> Deadly Nepal quake was long predicted
Moronic journalists
 
Good, it's back.
 
> “It’s buildings that kill people, not earthquakes,”
lol
 
ASR
@Cicada yes
 
5:12 AM
#deep
 
@ASR It's not wrong per se but that statement is completely devoid of value
 
ASR
yes
 
The comments are entertaining though
HAARP, bible, etc etc
 
ASR
:)
 
> Its gods sar ha-olam judgment of all wickedness tanakh Isaiah 13:9-10, "all popes patriarchs ayatollahs kings presidents grand mufti's mullahs
sheikhs cardinals bishops rabbis know I've returned. LOV Jeshu JAH mashiach Mahdi Messiah maitreya avatar Hopi prophecies I'm trusted white man for gods olam ha-ba messianic kingdom tanakh Daniel 2:44 (gods grace ended in 2008)
marigalize legijuana?
> new continent shall born...this is birth sings lik on a woman :)
I should read this website more often
 
5:26 AM
@Cicada linky?
 
@fredoverflow somewhere in here
 
> Note that C++14 extended constexpr is not planned for RTM. We need to finish heavier-than-air flight before starting interstellar colonization.
lol
 
@orlp Yes, though I left it at home. I didn't bring it with me to Chicago.
 
5:43 AM
> Improve your app and get a free t-shirt. We get it, coding is sweaty business.
no
 
Coding is sweary business.
 
6:16 AM
One of my friends was complaining how annoying his job is, because he is talking to stupid customers and was telling me that my job is calm. I failed to explain how fucking annoying programming can be sometimes.
 
Greenlit :toot: :toot:
2
 
@khajvah The grass is always 0x00FF00er.
 
@CatPlusPlus :applause:
My vote was what Steam needed
 
Are you ready to shower in monies
 
6:20 AM
If not, prepare death threats for gaben.
 
ASR
In C++, why exception handling is introduced? it was not in C right?
 
@ASR ?
 
ASR
you did not get?
 
Nope. Do you mean why c++ needs exception handling?
 
ASR
6:24 AM
yes
 
Well
 
ASR
hi, how are you?
 
That was the gayest hi ever
 
I like how Steam's partner FAQ is mostly "it's in documentation"
 
6:29 AM
@khajvah hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
 
@BartekBanachewicz heyyyyyy hon
 
... which is why I love it.
 
@ASR C does and doesn't. No, it doesn't have what's called exception handling in C++. It does, however, have a number of things (e.g., errno, signals and setjmp/longjmp) that are used primarily for handling exceptional situations. As to why C++ added it as a feature of the language: a number of reasons. Partly to add more capability. Partly to clean it up so you have one clean, clearly-defined interface instead of a collection of stuff that doesn't quite work for much of anything.
 
marvelous shoes
@CatPlusPlus What are the next steps btw?
 
Papurwork
Company
Getting the release ready
 
6:30 AM
@CatPlusPlus wut
 
We should have a demo today/tommorowish
 
@CatPlusPlus what are you releasing
 
ASR
@JerryCoffin thank you
 
6:32 AM
is this like worms
 
> Realistyczna Fizyka
 
or maybe liero
 
agreed
 
this is the nerdiest thing ever
 
Yes
It's Liero with modern engine, rabbits and carrot puns
Possibilities are endless
 
6:34 AM
good job
 
I want a biicode T-shirt. The one with darth vader c++ thing.
 
btw @Cat how did you end up writing games again
 
You complained that I don't write games so now I have a Steam release and you don't HAHAHAHAHA
 
you must've kept that in for a looooong time
now write a chat app :D
 
@CatPlusPlus How long did you spend on writing it?
 
6:41 AM
3cm
 
I didn't write that much of it
It started ca July last year
 
Can I request moving / dynamic stages
Worms is very static
 
now I feel as if I haven't accomplished anything
 
You have accomplished a few semi successful Haskell rants
 
except I was scraping the dust off my bathroom floor for 2 hours yesterday so there's that
@Cicada what's a "semi-successful rant"
 
6:43 AM
A semi failed one
 
@BartekBanachewicz look at me and you will feel successful again
 
@Cicada genius
 
@Cicada The glass is half empty
 
it would be full if you use a glass half of its original size
 
but the mug is filled with coffee
 
6:47 AM
& a smaller glass probably would be cheaper too
 
@Cicada Dunno really. We generate polygons based on a bitmap and that takes a while
 
@CatPlusPlus should be O(width) for the outer shell
I suppose holes are a/the problem
> Like many young men, Christian von Koenigsegg was fascinated by machinery as a boy. He even went so far as to dream about creating his perfect sports car. In stark contrast to the rest of us, however, Christian actually went ahead and turned that dream into reality – at just 22 years of age.
derp
 
I still have time
 
Koenigsegg
KING'S EGG IN GERMAN
 
> REACTIVE PASSIVE REAR WING
 
6:56 AM
@CatPlusPlus You need GPU acceleration may I recommend someone
 
damn, I know that those cars are nice, but some systems there are really cool
> For the last 13 years, Christian has worked with the development of Freevalves, that removes the camshafts from the combustion engine and gives total freedom to valve operation.
woooo
> FreeValve uses electro-hydraulic-pneumatic actuators
holy fuck they really did it
why didn't anyone tell me
 
Impressive! Electro-hydraulic-pneumatic actuators!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Are you pretending or do you really understand what any of that means?
 
@khajvah I do, it's not that complicated once you know how a regular ICE works.
 
Internal Compiler Error
 
6:59 AM
@Cicada not the actuators, the fact that they were able to put them in a real car that doesn't cost an Ireland
 
nICE
 
the benefits over camshaft design are pretty substantial
> Both intake and exhaust valves can be opened and closed at any desired crankshaft angle. This flexibility enables an engine to deliver low fuel consumption and emission numbers, while still delivering impressive torque and horsepower.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes, obviously
 
> It has that square cam profile that makes engineers all wet in the trousers.
lmao
 
oh I got that one
 
7:03 AM
you have a square profile?
 
figures!
> If applied to a current engine, it will provide 30 percent more power and torque, and up to 50 percent better economy.
well, "up to" but still
why am I a programmer I want to make cars
wow I'm reading a comment thread and everyone there is polite and constructive
and uses full sentences and proper interpunction
 
It must be high level sarcasm
 
Just like the lounge
 
> Right. I think the term "could" does not necessarily translate to "would be practical to do so".
 
user1804599
7:19 AM
Good morning!
 
user1804599
oh boy updating Chromium on Gentoo
 
lol gentoo
 
 warning: logical not is only applied to the left hand side of comparison [-Wlogical-not-parentheses]
I see GCC 5.1 has gotten noisy.
code is !x == y
 
user1804599
Writing (!x) == y is only good.
 
user1804599
Comparing Booleans with == is rarely done and !x == y looks like a mistake.
 
7:24 AM
what a bother
 
@rightfold Why gentoo FFS?
 
user1804599
@rubenvb Because it's the only reasonable OS I've ever used?
 
>Gentoo
>OS
light chuckle
 
@rightfold Why do you like spending your precious time on compiling everything?
 
> rightfold
> precious time
scrolled down to someone illustrating his points with a chart with factual data
 
7:29 AM
He is a good programmer. The world would benefit more if he didn't didn't spend hours on pointless compilations.
 
@rightfold Have you tried one with a binary package manager?
 
what's going on is this the same internet
 
user1804599
@rubenvb Yes, I tried Debian and Ubuntu.
 
user1804599
They were terrible.
 
@khajvah who she
 
7:29 AM
@rightfold No shit. Have you tried Arch or something similar?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Rightfold is he?
 
@khajvah of course
 
It's like Gentoo without the compilation woes.
 
user1804599
Debian has no bleeding-edge packages and Ubuntu ships with tons of crap I don't want.
 
user1804599
I tried Arch but I like Gentoo better.
 
7:30 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Fixed
 
@rightfold Where did Arch fail for you then? (I'm truthfully curious ;))
 
@rubenvb inb4, non-free binaries
 
user1804599
Also, there are plenty binary packages for Gentoo.
 
user1804599
Just enable bindist and add repos that offer them.
 
@rightfold yet none for something like Chrome?
 
user1804599
7:32 AM
Also, Arch packages tend to install crap by default.
 
user1804599
E.g. Vim has a dependency on X. Why?
 
user1804599
@rubenvb Probably, but I use Chromium and I build Chromium from source.
 
user1804599
You can just download the Chrome binaries from chrome.google.com and it should work.
 
user1804599
And chromium supports bindist apparently.
 
user1804599
Also, stuff like this:
 
7:34 AM
@rightfold huh? Where's X in this: archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/vim
 
user1804599
if use bindist; then
    elog "bindist enabled: H.264 video support will be disabled."
else
    elog "bindist disabled: Resulting binaries may not be legal to re-distribute."
fi
 
user1804599
bindist has licensing issues.
 
@rubenvb gtk2
 
@khajvah that's only a build time requirement
I guess for optional components
If you just install vim, no X is pulled in.
 
I see
 
Xeo
7:35 AM
mornin
 
so, electric cars
 
So yeah building everything from source might get you stuff you don't want, but why would you? There's packages for that.
 
user1804599
I don't see the problem with building chromium (or anything) from source really.
 
@rightfold How long does it take?
 
user1804599
It takes shitloads of time, but you only have to wait the first time you do it.
 
user1804599
7:38 AM
And I install Gentoo only once per computer and I rarely get a new computer.
 
And how do you keep up to date with security updates?
You'll be rebuilding every time, no?
 
user1804599
By updating regularly.
 
user1804599
Yes, so?
 
That takes shitloads of time every time, no?
 
user1804599
FYI I can use my computer while updating software.
 
user1804599
7:43 AM
This isn't Windows.
 
He he he, come back into work, chat was still showing some suspension time-out thing :P
How are y'all?
 
@rightfold So you've turned your PC into an electric heating device?
 
user1804599
It always heats.
 
lol
 
user1804599
If I want it to heat less I can tell portage to use fewer cores to build.
 
7:44 AM
19 hours ago, by rightfold
Maybe that's why my computer is so slow.
 
user1804599
Or nice the build.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz It misconfigured portage. Now it's fast while building.
 
user1804599
It built four packages at once each with four threads. Now it builds only one package at once with four threads.
 
You're a terrible person towards the environment.
Even if you have solar panels.
 
user1804599
Solar panels are retarded unless you mass-deploy them in the Sahara.
 
user1804599
7:46 AM
Nuclear reactors or bust.
 
@rightfold it would be faster to build four packages with one thread each
 
user1804599
@thecoshman why?
 
@rightfold no real reason :P
 
user1804599
Dependencies may have to wait for each other.
 
it'd probably be worse actually, more waiting on IO I'd presume.
 
user1804599
7:47 AM
If you have to build two packages A and B, and A depends on B, you can't build A and B in parallel.
 
@rightfold it's very hard to keep the water hot all the way back though. You'd be better using solar cells and transferring the power back.
 
user1804599
Well, at least solar panels aren't as retarded as windmills.
 
Coming from a Dutch...
 
@rightfold fyi solar 'panels' are for heating water, solar 'cells' are for generating electrical power.
@Cicada a Dutch what?
 
user1804599
Also funfact: NL government is stopping subsidizing of windmills soon, so electricity companies start replacing perfectly good windmills right now.
 
7:50 AM
@thecoshman That’s not right.
 
@LucDanton It would be a nice troll though, I'm stealing that
 
@LucDanton huh... so it be... I've been lied to
 
The main difference between solar panels and solar cells is that the latter can divide.
 
user1804599
@Cicada different windmills.
 
I thought solar panels are made of solar cells
 
user1804599
7:51 AM
Windmills used for grinding grain are neat.
 
It’s always important to distinguish thermal vs photovoltaic explicitly. 'Solar power', 'solar panel', 'solar plant' etc. can mean either or both.
 
I think it's that strictly speaking, 'solar panel' is water, whilst 'solar photovoltaic panel' is electrical...
 
user1804599
Strictly speaking, 'solar panel' isn't water but two words.
 
the former is ambiguous
 
7:53 AM
@BartekBanachewicz I'll agree to tht
 
user1804599
thecoshman's grammar is ambiguous.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh hey, I got the text sort of writing to screen. It seems to care not for where I say I want the 'string' nor does it seem to apply the xAdvance :\
But I then had to spend time with the misses, so couldn't look into it more.
 
user1804599
oh
 
user1804599
I'm at work but apparently I have a free day because of liberation day.
 
@LucDanton Most plants are solar.
 
user1804599
7:54 AM
Amazing.
 
user1804599
That's why nobody is here.
 
@thecoshman you fucked something up vOv
do you use an opengl debugger?
 
someone keeps devouring my ice cream
 
Xeo
@rightfold gg
I want a free day too :<
 
@rightfold lol
@rightfold This almost happened to me many times.
 

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