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Ell
10:00 PM
CMake is awful
provinces are municipally levying jurisdictions dependent on municipally acquired provincial funds - this means that to exempt institutions within municipal jurisdictions it would be necessary to also control the transfer of levied taxes from within provinces and between municipal jurisdictions and institutions
 
We are coming online now. Details to follow.
 
well well
British election very shortly.
I must admit that for some reason even though I basically already know the result as does everybody else that I'm always excited at election time.
 
Ell
another day though right?
@Puppy what is the result? o.O
 
@Feeds I'm tempted to do an offline dump of SO
 
@Puppy Yes, what is the result going to be?
 
Ell
10:11 PM
I think this will be a tight election
 
hung parliament.
the only question is who will become coalition with who
most likely con/lib dem again I think
 
Ell
I think so too
 
@Puppy Well, TBH, I think coalitions are better than single party governments. More checks and balances.
 
Ell
I'm not sure
 
I certainly don't mind coalition
but I think that it's a bit shit that the two biggest parties by far won't talk about what they might do in coalition
only what they'd do if they won.
 
10:14 PM
Update: Sites are coming back up! More details soon.
 
and I think it's double shit that they don't have coalition agreements prepared so that it doesn't take a month before the government is formed
 
@Puppy That would be a bad PR. They would seem as if too certain and that could change the actual votes.
 
yeah, it could do- in their favour.
 
We have not had a new government formed for like half a year at some point. The previous government was governing. It is not ideal but I do not see it as a huge problem.
 
Ell
I wonder how small a drive I can get for just a bootloader
 
10:18 PM
 
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@loosebruce uh jeez
 
Still not sure if I will vote tactically or just spoil my ballot
 
@loosebruce WTF. Where did that come from
 
It was just on Sky News
 
Update: Scratch that. More problems. Next update in 30 minutes.
 
10:28 PM
greetings.
 
Quick survey: pronounce "std::cout"
 
Quick survey: pronounce "scry"
standard cout (or don't)
 
@sehe: "kowt" or "see-out"
 
cout. So, "kowt". Obviously
 
Okay one more: "ess-tee-dee", or "standard"?
 
10:31 PM
^
 
see out
ess tee dee
 
I usually refrain from having STDs on my code.
 
theyre all over mine'
 
Interesting. I worked with guy who'd say, "S T D colon colon vector", etc.
Every single time
 
I usually say "Standard see-out"
 
10:32 PM
If you pronounce cout as "see out" see yourself out
 
Nope.
 
@scry he's probably one to favour tablatura over general music notation (SCNR /cc @BartekBanachewicz)
 
i cant help it
 
Ell
boy disaronno is yummy
 
"kowt" "sin" and "serr" for me
why make life harder?
 
10:34 PM
I really think we ought to make a Standard to define how to pronounce these terms.
 
Actually, I never pronounce these things. Why would anyone?
std::sort would be "standard sort", std::cout is "standard output" etc.
Who actually speaks identifiers?
"for (auto i : container)" would be "loop over all container elements by value"
 
I asked this 40yo girl out five hours ago. No response. I'm dying here.
 
o.O
@scry Basically, code is in a language spoken by me and the compiler. When I talk to coworkers, I translate into whatever language they speak.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't rule out heart attack symptoms on her side :)
 
@sehe It's in there somewhere! verbalized ASTs bouncing around in your head...
 
Nope. Just muscle memory, maybe. I admit I hate when people use other namespace aliases
So there's that
 
Ell
10:41 PM
@sehe I say "stud"
 
Well, you've been doing this a while I bet.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's always awks when I get wasted and dance with older women
it's even more awks when I get wasted and dance with girls my age
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dude. IME, ordinary people do not check their emails as often as we do.
 
@scry Not speaking my code? Yes
 
Ell
I'm just a terrible person on the whole - I don't mean morally, I just mean terribly low quality generally
 
10:43 PM
@sehe But just a few years into coding (like me), it might have been different
 
I'm not wasted and I'm not dancing with her.
 
@Ell Man, get some self esteem.
 
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@wilx I only kid
I do have self esteem most of the time
 
We always have very intellectual conversations.
 
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apart from clubbing. I have to drink copious amounts of alcohol to be comfortable dancing in front of people
 
10:44 PM
@scry I honestly don't recall. Perhaps it has to do with writing BASIC programs in a "cahier" with pencil and eraser. And then typing it all in 2 weeks later
@Ell clubbing baby seals?
 
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clubbing in nightclubs
they don't tend to have baby seals there
 
@sehe had to look that one up
"pencil" that is
 
hahahaha
 
Ell
I always wondered if before they had compilers, they'd write their code on paper in a high level language and then manually compile it
 
basically (pun not intended because inappropriate)
 
10:45 PM
@Ell it's pseudocode
 
I need another drink.
 
watch out. before long you'll be dancing
 
@Ell They did assembler on punch cards. AFAIK. :D
So late!
 
Night.
 
10:48 PM
Why am I even checking my pulse.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes very normal (low even) for me
Dat typo. Are you sure you're not drunk
 
@wilx nighty night
 
I'm sure I'm not drunk.
 
I was actually contemplating writing this:
            ra.first = ivals.emplace(a, *(--ra.first)).first;
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes not even a lil' ?
 
10:49 PM
I must be drunk
 
lol Unity insists on live reloading scripts while game is active, but it never works
Now it even crashed
 
            assert(ra.first != ivals.begin());
            --ra.first;
            ra.first = ivals.emplace(a, *ra.first).first;
 
I had one gin tonic.
 
See. I love how that fixed almost nothing in readability
 
10:50 PM
@milleniumbug that sounds like a terrible existence
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes yuo can't be then
 
Ell
if you're drunk at two g&ts you're going to get wasted at the unconference if you follow british tradition
of binge drinking
 
it's opt-in
 
Ell
it's probably not a british tradition either
I'm out of ice :(
 
10:56 PM
Update: We're back up. Hopefully this time for realz!
We have some cleanup work to do. Plus we'll be writing up a postmortem report. Thanks for your patience, folks!
 
@sehe how is 83bpm low?
Unless you're a toddler.
 
I think I'm around 82 now. Let me check
 
I'm usually at 65.
 
81-82 indeed
Thank you gtick
 
im at 95 right now
 
10:58 PM
That's high for someone your age.
 
I've always been high. (on heartrate)
 
Ell
I'm 87 right now
that's terrible
I need to get fit
 
It's easier to get fat.
 
I only get over 70 if I'm anxious or exerting myself.
 
Ell
I wonder if alcohol affects it
 
11:00 PM
@EtiennedeMartel amen
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel yep :(
 
I'm damn anxious right now
 
@Ell alcohol slows your metabolism so maybe
 
Ell
I'm definitely overweight
 
I can use my phone to measure my heart rate.
 
Ell
11:00 PM
and intoxicated
 
In fact, I'll do so now.
 
Ell
I wouldn't call myself fat though
 
@milleniumbug lovely
 
Ell
but ask @Puppy, he's the only one who has seen me in person I think vOv
 
@AlexM. nice avatar
 
11:01 PM
I know, I chose it <3
 
@Puppy Is Ell fit?
@AlexM. You're no longer a glorious purple.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes erm. why? What's the worst that can happen? Remember your yourself anyways!
 
puppy is going to pretend he never saw that question
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't be nervous, its an adventure :) what happens happens
 
Fat is the past tense of fit.
 
11:03 PM
@Nooble for most people i would say its the other way around
 
@Nooble did you buy cs go yet
 
@AlexM. Yes.
But I haven't gotten around to playing it; too much homework.
 
@AlexM. I just got it like 2 wks ago it's great
 
@Nooble fuck school
play cs
I mean what's the worse that can happen to you if you do that
you become like me, all awesome and shit
 
heh
 
11:07 PM
unless you're in high school or sth
then go to school
 
I'm in freshman year of high school (9th grade).
 
oh man I remember when I was in 9th
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Email or sms?
 
eh nobody talks about c++ here anyways
 
What's C++?
 
11:10 PM
Love
 
@AlexM. What about?
 
IME the likelihood of her saying yes increases if you ask her out by calling rather than texting
 
I only talk about GNU/Erlang
 
@AndyProwl I thought I was bad at cheering him up :/
 
@Nooble nothing in particular, I just remembered about it because it was nice
 
11:11 PM
@AlexM. I liked 7th grade a lot.
 
I started programming in 7th
 
@sehe Maybe. To me, honest useful advice is more valuable than a "there, there"
But then again ICBW
 
ITT people still remember which grades they liked in school
 
i was really good at BASIC in 7th
 
@AndyProwl it's not advice after the fact :) It's just food for worries then
 
11:13 PM
i knew how to goto very well
 
resume next
 
@AlexM. I started 7th too.
 
you're essentially me but you eat plants instead of animals
 
@sehe Better late than never. Could be useful next time
 
Koalas eat meat all the time. Trust me.
 
11:14 PM
@AndyProwl ...
 
@sehe I'm just being honest
 
Me too. No need to repeat :)
 
and hopefully helpful
 
let me see if I can compile a love advice via my massive amount of experience
 
Ell
My love advise is do what is best for yourself and you and your partner will become happy
 
11:15 PM
When I am in such situations, I appreciate my friends being direct to me
 
ICE
 
@AlexM. what's your rep on love.stackexchange?
 
even if it doesn't cheer me up, it usually helps me
 
@nick jon skeet
 
@AlexM. holy shit you changed your avatar
 
11:17 PM
@AlexM. :O
 
@Borgleader it was long overdue (I think that's the way to say it)
 
i should change mine
 
kept the same avatar for like 3+ months
 
but i havent found one worthy enough
 
@AlexM. compiling is relatively easy. The hard part is the linking...
 
11:19 PM
pink gravatar masterrace reporting in
 
think I'm gonna read that C++ Today thing
 
Just so everyone knows, my avatar is the picture that came (I think) with Windows 7's sample pictures.
 
@Nooble You're officially disqualified from Lounge<C++>
 
@AndyProwl says the starfish
 
@Nooble I was wondering why everyone used it
 
11:21 PM
@nick hey at least I googled it
 
@AndyProwl And all my koala friends too?
@AlexM. Hehe.
 
@Nooble No, because they haven't admitted plagiarism. You know, they might have taken that picture for what we know
 
Ell
I think stack exchange should work like reedit
 
@AndyProwl Plagiarism? Microsoft took a picture of my beautiful face and bundled it with their OS.
 
Ell
Stackexchange.com/stackoverflow
 
11:23 PM
They also gave me rights to it.
 
Prove it
 
@Ell thats pretty much how all the other SE sites work
 
morning
 
heyyy
 
morning beauty
 
11:24 PM
@Ell It already does (to some extent). Based on how poorly Reddit seems to work in practice, I think SO should probably be less like it.
 
@AndyProwl You may contact Microsoft about this. 1-800-KOALALA
 
@milleniumbug isn't there some kind of rule banning redirect loops?
 
@Nooble All right. I'll koall them
3
 
@milleniumbug Lame.com
 
11:26 PM
My flatmate had this brilliant idea of asking for maid service at 7 am
 
@AndyProwl Nice.
 
You can keep your avatar until further notice
 
Ok.
 
@JerryCoffin There's nothing there :P
 
@milleniumbug i wonder how much it would cost to buy that domain
 
11:28 PM
@Cicada wow
 
I'm board, too
I think I'm gonna call it a night
 
@AndyProwl sweet dreams
 
Cya guise
 
Night
 
11:31 PM
@sehe I think I'll move out in June
This flat is too noisy and expensive
 
:(
 
Ell
@AndyProwl night
Alcohol does I crease heart rate
@cicada do you like hong Kong?
Is it as economically free as they say?
 
@Jefffrey IRTA sean connery
 
How
@Ell Are you ok?
 
11:43 PM
@milleniumbug Obviously--if there was something there, that wouldn't be a lame.
 
Ell
@Jefffrey I am okay. Are you okay?
 
@Ell Read this message again and tell if it's understandable, because if it is, then I am the one not ok.
 
@Ell No
@Ell Depends.
There is indeed no regulation, no taxes no anything
 
Ell
@jeffrey it seems understandable
 
11:46 PM
Anyone can start their business for a symbolic 1$
 
@Cicada No taxes?
 
But can you survive the pressure of the extremely rich tycoons?
They own everything
 
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@Cicada do you get paid in whatever they use their? And not pay taxes? Or do you still have to pay taxes for Canada?
 
@Ell Oh, it's "increase", not "I crease".
 
And since there is no regulation whatsoever, they can pretty much pin you down to the ground if they want to
 
Ell
11:47 PM
Oops yeah my bad, typo
 
@Ell I get paid in HK$ which is pinned to US$. I don't pay taxes to my home country which is France.
 
i'd still have to pay US taxes if i worked there, dunno about canada
 
@Nooble No VAT etc.
 
The Cicada from Canada.
 
@Jefffrey 'tis not. "I crease my pants with an iron." Perfectly reasonable sentence (even if it is utterly false).
 
11:48 PM
@Cicada is this an accurate portrayal of an average day in hong kong? images.eurogamer.net/2014/usgamer/Sleeping-Dogs-11.jpg
 
lol
Lacks smog
 
Ell
@Cicada I see. It sounds good in that respect, but of course I have no experience of it
 
@Ell I think that was intended to mean the picture lacks smog (and is therefore unrealistic).
 
@Ell Coming from a "communist" country like France, I'd say HK is everything but economically free. But then it depends on your interpretation of what that means.
 
11:51 PM
Hmm If I want to make an RC drone, it's going to cost me $150 in transmission equipment alone.
 
hardware is an expensive hobby
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin I intended to reply to the message about taxes, but I'm on mobile so I can't link to specific messages
 
Also I can't even get too good of a range.
I'll need to amplify the signal for that.
And I don't have a Ham license.
 
@Nooble You'll pay (quite a bit) more than that for a good radio.
 
@JerryCoffin I have a DX6.
 
11:57 PM
@Nooble The distance is realistically limited by your ability to keep track of the plane, not the radio.
 
@JerryCoffin Well, I was thinking of transmitting video.
Video transmitters are expensive though.
 
@Nooble Back before I realized I wasn't much of a pilot, I had an Airtronics Stylus (horribly outdated nowadays though).
 

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