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In computer science, an object type (a.k.a. wrapping object) is a datatype which is used in object-oriented programming to wrap a non-object type to make it look like a dynamic object. Some object-oriented programming languages make a distinction between reference and value types, often referred to as objects and non-objects on platforms where complex value types don't exist, for reasons such as runtime efficiency and syntax or semantic issues. For example, Java has primitive wrapper classes corresponding to each primitive type: Integer and int, Character and char, Float and float, etc. Languages...
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Oh I see
 
Basically, wrapping primitives in classes
 
You doon't get to calll people that
 
They do it in crap like Java because there is no int* — you can only store reference types to get that effect and int is not a reference type (Integer is)
disclaimer: made up the types; haven't done Java in time
call it a hack to work around OOP
 
I have done java only in one class in my university
 
They harden the hearts of ISIS fighters by teaching them Java
 
the course title was "Object Oriented Programming" but the stupid professor taught us to write bullshit GUIs in C# and in Java swing
as a result, nobody really understood what OOP is all about
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hate those duplicate sites so much
 
I wish there was a search engine like Google where people code vote on the results or just outright ban domains with an account
 
4:04 PM
@khajvah lol reminded me of
Aug 30 '13 at 6:44, by Mysticial
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Q: bullshit bullshit bullshit java programs

Anasooya Kpwhy java programs are bullshit... for example System.out.println(); why we use this for just printing.. i feel it is not good.. in c++ we can write it simply cout<< the why java use this long word for jus printing? another example: why we use class in java programs .. it is needless to u...

 
@Prismatic yeah :(
@Chris: I understand that SE may not have much investment in spending money on legal attacks against these disgusting scrapers, but personally I feel it would be nice as a high-rep contributor to feel that SE had my back when hooligans in some hut somewhere were making money from ads next to my scraped content. — Lightness Races in Orbit 50 secs ago
 
lol
 
makes me want to fuck off and go somewhere where I would be paid for my insights
inb4 "go on then please" from the pathetic people
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit expertsexchange? (lol)
 
@milleniumbug That is excellent
@Prismatic EE pays contributors? Didn't in 1999 when I signed up!
 
4:06 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Isn't it a paid site?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You get reputation here to satisfy your addiction.
 
Oh, Jan 2000. Close.
@Prismatic I didn't think so. Maybe it changed since.
@khajvah True :(
> Student and Freelance developer; currently working with PHP/MySQL/XML and mIRC client scripts.
lol those were the days
 
> PHP/MySQL/XML
that is masochism
 
new old C/C++
 
@chmod711telkitty It's great that you like helping people, but after 1-2 times it's okay to say "My time is valuable, and I can't do this right now".
 
4:09 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It looks pretty different now. I remember it having search results from Google that land on a forum page with a question but then you'd scroll down and it'd be like "SIGN UP NOW FOR 4.99 A MONTH~!"
So I thought they paid people who answered the questions
 
off to bread
nite my sweetie cutie pies
 
I think they just pay themselves
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit pretty good strategy lol
 
I really should get drunk tonight
 
I really shouldn't
 
4:15 PM
Public Service Announcement: Flaggers. Messages that contain the word "cum" are not offensive. Stop bugging us with them.
 
cucumber
 
I didnt get my package because reasons apparently
 
@MadaraUchiha lol
 
@MadaraUchiha Are you a mod?
 
4:16 PM
@khajvah Not on Stack Overflow.
 
May 1 at 18:17, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Flags are not just for offensive things.
 
The worst part is that it was so cheap I am tempted to just buy the thing somewhere local
 
May 1 at 18:17, by Lightness Races in Orbit
23 hours ago, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
> Do you want to flag this message as spam, inappropriate or offensive?
 
@khajvah mods are blue in chat
 
Now either stand for election as a moderator, or stop bugging us with your broken opinions.
 
4:17 PM
> I program in JavaScript, HTML, Java, PHP, CSS,
 
Sorry Madara, had to post this
 
@khajvah Your point?
 
He says all are terrible
 
HTML, CSS
> program
 
4:18 PM
And without starting a language flamewar please
 
I'd love to see your programs in css
 
Madara why do you storm into someone else's room and be all pompous
 
@Nisk People tend to think that writing CSS and HTML is trivial. It is not.
 
cripes
 
@Madara puh-lease. Moi, start a language flame war?
 
4:18 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, I'm Madara.
 
Nothing about CSS is trivial
 
@MadaraUchiha Your first message contained the order "stop bugging us"
 
@MadaraUchiha Nobody said it is trivial
 
pot, kettle?
 
4:18 PM
CSS is short for CeSSpit
 
HTML is short for Had Too Much Lager
 
@MadaraUchiha both html and css are piss easy and trivial. The word you are looking for is tedious.
 
Alternatively "Center, you Shitty Scrub"
 
CSS is short for Come, Sexless Sycophant
 
4:19 PM
2 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
RIP
 
Anyway I'm alone in the old town
 
@Nisk You obviously never did anything nontrivial with CSS
 
PHP is short for Perennial Homelessness Preferred
 
Cuz Natalia went for her choir practice. Wat do.
 
rip in pieces
 
4:20 PM
I am drinking an IPA so far
 
Shock horror as even the people of Bartek's own town feel the need to leave him alone
 
Its good
Rich, fruity, not too bitter
Overpriced a tad
 
> other.m_Rhos._Mylast - other.m_Rhos._Myfirst + m_Rhos._Myfirst - m_Rhos._Mylast
lol
 
@Mr.kbok IRTA rhinocerous
 
@CatPlusPlus lol bitch please
 
4:22 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wat wat
 
IRTA Greek rhodos
 
TIL codecs in games are more important than the hardware mic quality to deliver proper voice stuffs
Valve released a new codec for CS GO and the improvement is huge
 
@Alex uh
I humbly totally disagree
 
For voice comms almost any mic will do
 
We use voicecom extensively since like 2010. Tested speex, Opus, GSM
 
@AlexM. It's likely the compression is maximal
@AlexM. Why is there an electric toothbrush on the thumbnail o.O
 
And seriously no codec will save you from a shitty background noise picking mic
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't know, 3kliksphilip is an interesting fellow like that
 
There's also a Samson mic in the thumbnail which prolly costs as much as @Alex GPU
Well Samson isn't that expensive but you get the point
 
4:25 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I haven't played on a server using the new codec yet but the general opinion on reddit is that the difference is huge reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/34xon6/…
 
Uhm
"Sounds almost as clear as teamspeak"
That explains things
 
I liked this one
> I can finally understand Russians now even in their main language thats how good the voip is.
this one is good too tho
> I prefer the old one, the low quality made it more cinematic.
 
> Russian actually is not that hard to learn. But communication with Russian people it impossible.
 
I tried improving upon TS so if its "almost as good" then well
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit there was this guy with a thread about easy stuff to say in Russian while playing but the only thing I remember is "davai"
 
4:28 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and you mean?
 
anyway, I kinda felt bad about the whole russian thing once in a match
 
Guys help how do I eat a bagel
 
everyone was speaking english so we asked each other where we're from
the russian guy said he was russian with a semi-ashamed voice
 
@Nisk I guess you're proving it
@AlexM. lol
 
Oh man this bagel is great
No wonder the place is called beer and bagels
 
4:30 PM
@AlexM. that's because people don't seem to realize that most of the time when they play computer games...they are playing against russian kids...and kids are little bastards no matter the nationality
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm a native Russian speaker, not the other way around
 
@Nisk Glad to hear you're not a speaker Russian native
 
I am curious about russia
 
s/ about russia//
 
It scares me but I'd still like to visit
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wish I could say the same about your double-negatives
 
4:32 PM
@Nisk No, you don't not.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's not like you'll get killed on the spot you know :P
 
Oh that's a huge relief
 
a guy I know went with some researchers/students delegation to some NPP or something like that in russia for an event, several weeks ago
it was a pretty hardcore experience
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well worth visiting, in my opinion, especially if you're single--the number of gorgeous women is downright amazing (though far more so in St. Petersburg than Moscow, at least IMO).
 
and he mentioned something weird about shops not selling cigarettes openly
 
4:34 PM
In fact, St. Petersburg is a better visit in general, I'd say.
 
i.e. not advertised and not publicly shown
 
@Jerry I'm not single :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not really
 
I'd like to take a train to Vladivostok
 
@BartekBanachewicz Even if you're not single, it's still well worth visiting.
 
4:34 PM
I could pull a Bartek and post here photos of his girlfriend from Facebook
But the idea of pulling Bartek disgusts me :)
 
She's not bad actually
Meanwhile, Vlad is still being too damn nice:
@Allan Deutsch My congratulations! You found a method how to call a function in a namespace scope!:) However I can say you in confidence how you can call a function in a namespace scope even if it does not have a return value. For example int i = test::dostuff(), 10; — Vlad from Moscow 2 days ago
 
git pull Bartek
 
I think Bartek started making his pics private right about now...
 
@BartekBanachewicz my experiences have been great, I was in Belarus last summer, met people on the train, became friends then came over to stay with them for a few days a week later...also stayed with people I met through computer games...I probably wouldn't do that in any western countries
 
4:38 PM
@alex what was that privacy thing again
 
Even Alf is making sense
–1 “Using const on intrinsic types (int, float) is useless“” is incorrect and very misleading as purported fact, and absurdly wrongheaded as advice. — Cheers and hth. - Alf 2 days ago
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think you can specify for each pic what privacy options you want it to use
 
@Nisk is Poland a western country?
 
(Public, Private, Public except for LRiO)
 
{TRUE, FALSE, LRIO_WONT_FIND}
5
 
4:39 PM
lol
 
@Alex whoosh. I'm known for my lack of care for my privacy
 
Doesn't matter; I download them all a few months ago anyway, when she sent me them all by email
@BartekBanachewicz s/my/anyone's/
 
Oh come on don't be angry about that one
 
I'm sorry okay just the world had to see your beauty face
 
4:41 PM
@BartekBanachewicz trick question? I guess in terms of people - I'd say it's closer to eastern Europe than western one
 
@MarcoA. £33m gone :(
I find it astonishing that a single resupply mission still costs that much
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm more concerned it might fall on my head, you know
 
Xeo
@MarcoA. wtf, why does that shitty website start autoplaying a video waaaaay down the page
fuckers
 
@Nick more like opinion question
 
Xeo
fuck every stinkin' site with autoplaying videos
just fuck them
 
4:42 PM
Yeah idgi literally no one wants auto play
Looking at you windows
 
@Xeo I hate that on twitch's homepage
it autostarts a stream when you open it
so annoying
 
@BartekBanachewicz especially on porns
 
@Nisk I consider it basically more extreme Poland
In both directions.
Russian achievements are amazing, but otoh your fuckups are wtf for me
 
@MarcoA. that's really unlikely
 
@BartekBanachewicz well I know and work with a lot of Polish guys, and I have friends and family from all around eastern europe, so I'd definitely consider them similar
 
4:44 PM
I see
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd probably have to agree
 
Well I don't know a word in Russian but you already told me that a lot of people know english
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I kinda don't care, it's not the first time they waste a satellite and then say "watch out, there's one coming". Money wasted + someone might get really hurt
 
How is it price wise compared to Poland? I see a lot of Russians doing shopping here
 
@BartekBanachewicz the younger generation, yes, at least closer to the city
 
4:45 PM
Like, huge groceries mostly
 
user1804599
@AlexM. The End is pretty much the most boring boss of the whole game after The Sorrow.
 
@MarcoA. It happens all the time. And no-one's been hurt yet
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm honestly I don't know and in the last year I would say it changed somewhat, imports I would say are more expensive than in Poland, but when comparing say homegrown food should be the same or cheaper
then again I believe Russia was importing a lot of fruits from Poland previously
 
Russian homegrown food:
1. potatoes.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, that's Ireland.
 
Ell
4:48 PM
2. wheat
 
flag as trolling?
 
because with a land mass that size you're bound to have very little diversity in food production...
 
I guess you missed the funny joke regarding how vodka is made
21 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
> Russian actually is not that hard to learn. But communication with Russian people it impossible.
 
user1804599
4:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz that's because they don't have food in Russia.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the standing joke about the Irish is their affinity for spuds, guess you missed that.
anyhow, I'm off. Laters.
 
Ell
I'm putting the AST of sol in a neo4j database! i.imgur.com/ry5d7ca.png
 
user1804599
I need real-life netherrack.
 
user1804599
@Ell Cool.
 
Ell
Oh it error'd
 
5:00 PM
Hmm half an hour left
 
Wooo I found spark-submit protocol
 
Ah shit what a lame picture proportions
 
5:04 PM
You know, this falling space debris could be worth some serious money
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit worthless article
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit this is gonna sound awful but I'm more enraged at the woman for asking how tall he is
 
> crossbows
 
fuck it going to the pub tonight
fry-up first
 
5:10 PM
There's a guy busking on guitar
 
guitat of 'ere
 
He holds it like Hendrix
I.e. upside down
He's pretty bad. But enough to keep me entertained for the next 20 minutes
Also omg because of this fucking "women in tech" thing I can't comment on a girl I follow on twitter and her new profile pic and her NASA tee
I remember when @wilx said something about a presenter dress
Shitty times.
 
Ven
wow, the lounge has been bloody today.
In other news, my avatar today actually looks cool!
 
Does it change everyday
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, you can comment on it. You just have to be prepared to weather the shitstorm. :) I was caught unprepared then. I totally did not expect it then. Now I do.
 
Ven
5:31 PM
sometimes several times.
 
5:43 PM
>US Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that by 2020 there will be a 1.5 million programming job gap, which means there will be that many jobs unfilled. That's in five years. The EU has published similar numbers, 1.2 million in 2018—three years. That means we need to be doing something to get more people into our industry
Really?
I mean, doesn't the deficiency raise our wages
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think that might be the problem...
 
inf
@BartekBanachewicz they tell that all the time
but in Germany they say that companies simply claim all the time that they need more engineers so that more people start and then they can simply choose the best
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can't "make" 1.2 million programmers in 3 years.
@inf Oh yeah, I saw a documentary about that.
 
@fredoverflow sadly, you're only technically right...
 
5:49 PM
@BartekBanachewicz actually no
 
@thecoshman What do you mean?
 
the gap is artificial, deliberately created to force wages down
 
inf
@fredoverflow Thanks for the link, think I didn't see that yet
 
@fredoverflow you can make that many, but you'r right in what you mean, they will be shite.
 
inf
@fredoverflow Holy crap, I didn't know they were playing that crazy number games
 
Ell
5:56 PM
@inf really?
 
inf
@Ell yeah, they multiply the numbers with random factors
 
Ell
well that's upsetting
 
@Mgetz Shouldn't the gap, i.e., higher demand than supply make wages higher to attract more supply? At least that is what my basic economics understanding suggests.
 
@wilx you're not thinking in politics
they are using it as a way to get more H1B
and then pull in cheap workers from india
 
Ell
@wilx the gap is false
 
6:05 PM
@Ell Ok...
Well, it seems to me that at least here in the Czech Republic there is more demand than supply.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It would be a rather boring place, don't you think?
 
@wilx Sounds nice
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You do not need any Lounge if you just want to be bored. :)
 
6:21 PM
^ /cc @AlexM.
 
lol
 
hmm
the problem with macaroni cheese: you eat it and then you feel hungry.
 
user1804599
hey
 
Ell
hi
 
I just had a fry up
and now I'm fucking hungry AGAIN
oven's so dirty I don't even really want to grill burgers though that'll be my next meal
 
Ell
6:24 PM
have a fry down to neutralise the hunger you just ate
 
so I might just go drinking
 
Ell
just fry the burgers
 
I am actually having additional pylons burgers delivered tonight.
 
@Ell but I'm obsessed with grilled burgers now so much better
same with steaks
no goin back
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit griddle 'em
that's the next best thing :P
 
6:25 PM
I always fry with a griddle pan
 
Ell
clean your oven? :P
 
wtf is griddling
 
Ell
then you're doing something productive and you get you eat burgers
 
@Ell gonna have to :(
the real problem is the roasting tray I've been using as a grill pan
and the fact that my sink isn't big enough to get all of it in :(
need to find an effective way to clean that sucker
 
Ell
@Puppy a griddle pan is a type of pan
 
6:27 PM
same with the racks
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit garden hose
 
Ell
Do you not line your grill pan with tin foil?
 
yes cold water from a hose is great at getting rid of oil and grease and caked-on carbon
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit just spray it hard :P
use it like a water drill
 
6:28 PM
@Ell if the pan had been nice and clean to start with I probably would have done when I started grilling everything, but I didn't want to dirty my hands so I just left it alone
@Xeo I do have a pressure washer in my car for sorting out the patio... ^_^
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Together with some saponate?
 
Ell
I'd probably use brillo pads then vOv
 
dunno what "saponate" is
I'm going to go through like ten scourers cleaning that thing I just know it
can I get a RIP RIP
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit soap I presume
 
soap + cold water nah
 
Ell
6:30 PM
saponification is the process of turning fat into soap I think
 
needs to be hot
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit use a wire brush maybe?
 
Why would you ever want to write x++ instead of ++x? Personally, I have never met (in real life) a programmer who could precisely explain the semantics of x++. Usually I get some wishy-washy "first, the value is used, and then the increment happens". But of course they have never heard of sequence points, let alone understand their implications. In Java, the semantics are almost trivial: increment, yield old value. I have talked to a lot of Java programmers, and none of them got this right. Apparently, postfix increment is too complicated for most programmers. Dare I say.. harmful? Evil? — fredoverflow 1 min ago
^ obligatory postfix dissing
 
1 min ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
I'm going to go through like ten scourers cleaning that thing I just know it
I should use cleaning bags - still got some liquid but I'm out of bags
also it didn't really work last time :(
 
hey, I have totally heard of sequence points.
 
Ell
6:31 PM
scourers ain't wire brushes
 
no but they're related
 
alright
 
Ell
also have you google image'd "scourer"?
 
@Puppy We have never met in real life. I'm sure you could quote the definition of sequence points by heart.
 
6:31 PM
I ate some additional pylons macaroni cheese and I'm feeling a smidge fuller.
 
@Ell I have now. why?
 
@fredoverflow Fair enough.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Go has only postfix increment, but you cannot use its result in an expression. :D
 
@rightfold Good for Go.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit cos half of them are those spongey dealies and the other half are bundles of wire wool :P
I imagined the green spongey ones
which I wouldn't relate to a wire brush :)
 
6:33 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oops. I thought it was in English as well. It is a word for liquid soap or other cleaning agent.
 
@rightfold Imagine how peaceful this world would be if C didn't have postfix increment. All those stupid i = i++ questions would never have come into existence!
 
@Ell some of those are basically wire on the back
 
user1804599
It still is peaceful with C having it.
 
user1804599
And the necessary tools are there: downvote, close, delete and ban.
 
guess I'll try one of these brush things then, thanks
still need a bigger sink
gtg
 
6:34 PM
Anyone know if there's a way to save the current session in Firefox?
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit good luck :P
 
Xeo
"open tabs from last session" option?
also, you can open the last window through the history
 
Ell
^ or I think if you go file-> quit it asks
 
I want to save the current session though, it may not be the 'last' session ... ie when I close firefox it might have a different set of tabs open compared to what I currently want to save
This reminds me of those old Gameboy games where if you wanted to 'quick save' you had to put the gameboy to sleep.
 
@Prismatic There is a session extension.
 
6:37 PM
@wilx inb4 I have to restart firefox to install
 
Xeo
> old gameboy
> sleep
you whot
 
@Prismatic facepalm
 
Xeo
@fredoverflow I find postfix increment more appealing, visually :(
 
I don't give a fuck and just write whatever increment I feel like at the time
 
6:38 PM
@Xeo Gameboy Advance had a sleep mode no
 
I don't give a fuck and write pre-increment (or += 1)
 
Or atleast, some games had a sleep option and then you could turn the GBA off
I'll just make a list of the URLs
 
@Xeo May I suggest x.operator++() as an interim solution? ;)
 
vector <string, vector<string>> company; // <manager, subordinates>

Do you think this is an optimal data structure , say if one manager has 2 employees and another 12?

I thought about a map or a list, but a vector allows me to order everything in the one memory block.
 
@loosebruce Sounds good enough. It depends on what you want to do with it. You could also use say multimap.
Or just map.
 
6:51 PM
wilx, but when I iterate and print a map it is all unordered, would I need to add another key for order?
 
@loosebruce No, you are wrong. std::map is ordered.
 
Hmm it is not ordered when I print it out :S
 
Are you coding in Java but asking in a C++ room or some such silly thing?
 
Nope, C++ with STL
 
@AlexM. You usin Mecanim?
 
Ell
6:54 PM
@loosebruce the keys are ordered
 
Ok going to pastebin my code
 
@CatPlusPlus nope, never used it
 
@loosebruce everybody duck
 
or I might have unconsciously, through some assets downloaded from the store
 
I want to animate two things when an UI thing transitions and :cripes:
 
6:55 PM
but I don't know anything about it, as far as anims go, I just Play and Stop them
 
You can't have two motions in a state
You can't have two Animator components
What the christ
Hm blend trees
 

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