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11:00 AM
'Asses' & 'Assess' ... spellings are so close ...
 
i might just build that thing for fun
connect -> id, then you can poke and peek, and most importantly cycle, advance the clock
but anybody can read the screen
input is harder
it could be a fun crazy race
the poke/peek guy gets one token
somebody else gets a token to send input and advance time
or run time in realtime on the server
 
@Mehrdad: No, seriously, show me that "A parameter can, an argument can't". I know what you say does NOT make sense! — Nawaz 15 mins ago
Well he's wrong here.
 
What pedantry.
 
well Nawaz was the one who started it
-1. this part is wrong >> a function that takes in an array of 1 std::fstream. The parameter is NOT an array, it is a pointer! — Nawaz 43 mins ago
 
@BartekBanachewicz in which case, you surely do not want attempt to do that over a req/res protocol. Websocket would be the way to go, a nice pipe to just stream shit though
 
11:10 AM
I solved the argument
no need to restart it
 
@thecoshman meh, I don't see why getting/setting memory locations couldn't be mapped to REST api
 
it should be.
for a vm/emulator running some ancient device
 
Man, typesetting is hard.
 
the only hard part is timing/clock
 
> the only hard part is cock
 
11:14 AM
I have ended up with TeX Gyre Pagella and Consolas.
 
@BartekBanachewicz well they can, but you would use GET and PUT (which would map to your notion of peek and poke)
 
@thecoshman well, yes.
 
it would also be tediously slow I am sure... but for a 'basic' system, probably ok.
 
HTTP is not that slow.
 
a lot of overhead though
a websocket could negate so much of that overhead.
 
user1804599
11:15 AM
Nothing is slow.
 
user1804599
It is fast enough.
 
@BartekBanachewicz The amount of bandwidth overhead for doing a peek/poke per request is probably over 1000%.
(No typo, all zeros intended)
 
well, I agree that HTTP isn't fit for realtime applications
 
think of a system with less than 4k
 
soo more poll results
 
JBL
11:17 AM
@Nawaz: You're kinda failing at pedantry ;) — Lightness Races in Orbit 7 mins ago
Hehehe.
 
still time is the issue
 
JBL
Pedantry takes mad skills.
 
gah, people are pretty much evenly distributed over the jam length
 
if the peeker/poker controls time, speed does not matter
 
11:18 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool! :)
 
it's not really the latency of the requests I would be worried about, but the bandwidth used by HTTP for such small data.
 
I'd really like to give out some special awards though.
* Most content: suckage by DeadMG
* Most players: SeriousJam by Xeo
* Most artistic: Arbol by Ell
This is my list (I'm excluding myself from it for obvious reasons)
 
4k at 60hz is easy
 
can we get a blurb of what people made
 
I was tempted to reply 'All games must run in both FF and Chrome', but I guess that would be a troll too far.
 
11:19 AM
@thecoshman I'll try to add some summaries.
 
@starmole oh raw data, now think about the overhead of all those HTTP requests, assuming you are going to down the rEST route.
 
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@BartekBanachewicz The amount of bandwidth overhead for doing a peek/poke per request is probably over 1000%.
 
and that would mean touching all the bits
oh yes... still a lot of room if you pick an ancient device
 
Dammit.
Dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit.
 
@starmole well, I would assume you would only address bytes
 
11:21 AM
I like "It was fun." at the end :D
 
Should have said "over 9000%".
 
it would degrade quickly
 
also the fact that two games were called, respectively, "shit" and "suckage"
 
@thecoshman Wouldn't be peek/poke otherwise.
 
JBL
There are a few gems in these games' code.
 
11:21 AM
both robot and I had exceptions as control flow.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes opposed to individual bits, no idea why you would want to do that though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I nominate you for "Most fucked-up code"
 
well most of the graphics was in hw
 
JBL
@DeadMG Brilliant.
 
eh
 
11:22 AM
so to position a sprite you write one byte
 
when you only got 2h to do the whole thing you skip some of the niceties you know
 
user1804599
I nominate myself for most boring gameplay.
 
unfortunatelly timing is very important
 
@DeadMG "the worst code fuckup" is an achievement too
 
JBL
@DeadMG Why no goto :P ?
 
11:23 AM
lol
 
Is there a 'most gruesome code' subtext to these games?
 
it was briliant code
i highly recommend "racing the beam"
 
@DeadMG And I didn't even catch mine.
 
yeah
that's the epic laziness right there.
not even catching it.
 
yeah that's why robot should get that award
it was just brilliant
 
11:28 AM
i really want to build that thing now
 
then do it :P
 
might have to wah tomorrow:)
 
I kinda want to go back to Inline and fix that suckage
out of contest, obviously
 
@starmole wah?
 
work at home...
.. or building the most frankensteinian web service
 
11:34 AM
I farted.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What award? "Word code fuckup"?
:S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mhm! :)
especially because you wrote in C#
 
@thecoshman Blurbs added.
 
it's expected for Perl/C++ code to turn up fucked up, but you just took it on another level :D
 
alright so
I figure that I will need references to references but they will mostly only occur internally and most user code will never see one.
 
11:37 AM
though I also went kinda too much imperative, I guess
 
Xeo
wheee
 
Xeo
imperative in haskell is cool with State and lenses. did you use lenses?
 
I didn't
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what is it with you and calling everything the '1st great'?
 
11:39 AM
what is a reference to a reference in cpp?
 
@thecoshman Not my fault that it never happened before.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman because he hopes for a second?
 
@starmole there are no refs to refs in c++
 
Also added award nominations. Feel free to add your nominations.
 
nah
 
11:39 AM
@Xeo I was really drunk BTW
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes doesn't make it great
 
you should call it just "The Great".
 
good. DeadMG scared me
 
then we can make lots of Hitler references when changing it from "The Great" to "Game Jam 1".
 
Nawaz is going crazy
 
11:40 AM
@thecoshman It was, though. And the meetup will really be great, at least in size.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no it wasn't. Yes it will. (that's what she said)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nawaz?
 
hmm
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oho
 
Xeo
> 2 hours is shorter than rightfold's attention span, but it felt okay
don't you mean longer?
 
11:41 AM
@thecoshman ehehehe
 
That's wrong.
 
@Xeo ah right
 
@Purrformance calm down donkey
 
@starmole curious - how could that work with refs being just an alias and all?
 
I love how someone was predicting this to be the first thing rightfold would ever finish, if only because it was limited to two hours. Yet he gave up.
 
11:42 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: Please read the above comment by me. — Nawaz 16 mins ago
etc
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes as I said, at least he tried :P
 
what's all this fuss about?
 
@thecoshman He tries a lot, though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes he really had some decent functionality
 
Xeo
11:42 AM
have you guys discussed anythingg about the jam yet?
 
he just chose to give up
@Xeo a bit. Not too much.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Exactly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes he does, but it's something
 
well
I think we can all agree that I'm the winner.
 
Xeo
11:43 AM
in content, sure.
 
where can I see what games you came up with?
 
JBL
I realize I'm kind of an anti-righfold. I don't try enough :<
 
that's just classic pippy
 
@JBL A leftfold?
 
@jalf all projects have GH urls
 
11:43 AM
I used to never finish anything. Now I just don't finish any personal projects.
 
JBL
@jalf Oh nice.
 
Benjamin: That's why I asked :) Didn't make sense to me... but I have been suprised before
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, and where are those urls listed? :D
 
The results of The 1st Great Lounge Jam are in!
10
 
11:43 AM
@Xeo ah ty
 
@Benjamin you have to participate in the next one :D
 
@jalf See the wiki instead.
 
yeah, the gdoc was just temporary
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd use Python or JavaScript and every would be pissed at me.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum we had one Python entry
 
Xeo
11:45 AM
what's the worst code fuckup btw?
 
@Xeo Bartek nominated me for using exceptions for control flow, and not catching them.
 
@BartekBanachewicz naa, I'd probably use C#
 
@Xeo well, the code that someone wrote that gave you biggest laugh/wtf
@BenjaminGruenbaum we also had one C# entry :)
 
Xeo
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz well fuck :D
 
11:46 AM
In fact, it's using exceptions for no-control flow.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum hehe.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you know the worst part though?
 
gah I forgot to ask in the poll if we want to invite JS room too
 
er, no.
no, no, no.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I could probably make a (half) decent game in two hours with Flash - that'd just make people hate me. :D
 
11:47 AM
okay, okay
 
@DeadMG why?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Ok, third time's the charm. Yes, that would make enemies.
 
because they, by definition, are not Lounge.
 
@DeadMG fair enough
 
and I am not even slightly interested in participating in a competition with a bunch of random strangers.
 
11:48 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum well, if people don't run your game they are less likely to vote for it
 
might as well walk down the street comparing dick size.
 
Xeo: i found a *1 instead +1 i did today. conceptually any static.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, the browser is hard :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't have flash installed
 
@BartekBanachewicz we actually used to do this sort of thing all the time in 2004-2006 in newgrounds
 
11:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I liked the YouLostException :)
 
@DeadMG but comparing dick sizes with friends is totally okay right?
 
Xeo
@starmole wut?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Several denizens here don't have Flash on their boxes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz If your friends agree in advance.
 
Well I shouldn't nominate myself, but I'd like to propose "The biggest planning overshoot" award
 
11:49 AM
No Shockwave Crash.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh? and?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The worst part is - I don't either. Which is strange because making small 2 hour games on that was really really productive. You had a working visual setup and events ready to fire.
 
er
the robot's visual setup did not work at all.
 
@thecoshman And he would make enemies for that.
 
Making a 2 hour game is a lot harder than it was 8 years ago. I have to admit that's strange.
 
11:50 AM
it was unplayable I thought.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh right, he's proposing to use it :P
 
You just suck.
 
oh wait, that's a different thing.
 
Not knocking crypto currencies, but a large group of people suddenly declaring 'in doge we trust' should scare the shit out of anyone.
lol
 
11:52 AM
who doesn't trust me?
 
-Standard fare roguelike with a time travelling mechanic. Single player, randomly-generated content, no saving.
+Clone of robots.
2
 
@DeadMG you're not Doge
 
I'm a doggy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahahaha
well but you adapted
I kinda didn't
 
oh
am I the only one who didn't write a single comment?
 
11:53 AM
Pretty sure no.
Well, I think I might have left some stranded TODOs.
 
> rightfold created repository game2 an hour ago
 
Xeo
I left some for myself, since I have everything in main
 
oh gawd
@BartekBanachewicz he's on a roll again.
 
11:54 AM
I found an actually documenting comment.
        State.Previous = State; // loopback
 
@DeadMG I didn't either, but I had explicit type annotations, so I guess they can count as comments
 
Xeo
  static const int max_default_blocks = 5; // proper factor of width * height
teehee
 
@Purrformance maybe some sort of handy tool for reducing duplicate code... in a really painful to read way...
 
static & const. Wow.
 
noSuchCommand :: Command
noSuchCommand = liftIO $ putStrLn "Permission denied"
 
11:56 AM
The amount of care.
 
> You imply that you are masturbating vigorously.
lol
 
11 hours ago, by Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes also, lol, ++i ... j++
This was cool too.
 
yeah
you can also shit yourself in the Modern time period.
which is odd since you warp into a toilet.
 
@Purrformance it's syntax sugar, obviously
 
11:58 AM
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz I see 0 added value
 
@DeadMG lol
 
shush
 
Fuck JavaScript and the primitive tribe of mammals that are its users
 
11:58 AM
@Purrformance more readable code
 
hey robot
ISTR discussing this with you a while ago, and you think it's fine for forward to be a language feature rather than library?
 
@Purrformance eh, "fuck browser monopoly"
 

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