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6:00 PM
I'm not saying it's bad, only it's not the same as the previous games. Calling it Dead Space 3 is a marketing stunt.
 
I can't wait to play Tomb Raider :(
 
But is it still scary?
 
I'm still probably gonna buy it. Not now though, 60$ is a bit steep.
 
Should I buy Far Cry 3 for 20€
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes. Oh lord yes.
I spent 50$ for that game and it was worth it.
 
6:01 PM
I'm not sure how far I should go to cry.
 
If you like reckless driving in the jungle, tiger hunting with a bow and stabbing people with funny accents in the throat, then you'll love this game.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Surely if Dead Space 3 were the same as the previous games, then it would be either Dead Space or Dead Space 2? I don't understand why people require sequels to be identical to the original; just play the original again?
 
user142019
Code y u no work.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm not saying it should be identical.
 
because you suck.
 
6:02 PM
I'm just saying they should at least belong to the same genre.
 
OTOH it's Uplay game :<
 
Otherwise it's not a sequel. Heck, it's not even a spiritual successor.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'll give you that
 
@CatPlusPlus Uplay works pretty well, actually.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Alright you have successfully dodged that one
 
6:02 PM
Yes I've seen it work pretty well
It managed to 500 on login
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That must be one of the 100000 that's not me. :-)
 
Also fucking password length limit
 
@JerryCoffin indeed!
 
It's a bit weird though that launching FC3 on Steam launches Uplay, from which you can then launch FC3...
And FC3's multiplayer and co-op were severely bugged on release, but it's all been patched now.
 
Flaming Cliffs?
 
6:04 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Don't sweet talk the cat about Uplay he was coughing immense amounts of furballs over it last weekend.
 
(Can't ask Ubi Montreal devs to get the netcode right on the first go)
@Borgleader I'm starting to think he might actually be some giant shit magnet. It's like everything he touches breaks down spectacularly.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Furious Clits.
 
@NolwennLeGuen :(
 
@NolwennLeGuen What the fuck are bacon puffs?
 
DES PUFFS DE BACON BORDALE
 
6:09 PM
@NolwennLeGuen tu parles francais?
 
hélas
 
MANGE MA RAIE
 
ELLE PUE
 
@EtiennedeMartel puffed bacon, of course
 
etienne: tu connais beaucoup d'histoire de canada?
 
6:10 PM
Fuck oui. Je suis né ici.
 
Ahahahaha
Et tu y crèveras
 
c'est la raison que je t'ai demande! :)
est-ce qu'il y a un temps quand beaucoup de canadians emigre aux etas-unis?
(ont emigre)
@NolwennLeGuen tu es quebecois? francais?
 
Je sais qu'il y a eu un grand exode de Canadiens Français vers le nord est des États-Unis quelque part vers la fin du 19e siècle.
Mes cours d'histoire sont loins, par contre.
 
Do you even lift?
 
circa 1900?
@TonyTheLion in the gym?
 
6:12 PM
@user1690130 Environ, oui.
 
There I bought it
 
Gratz
 
@CatPlusPlus Yay!
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's dangerous
 
No shit.
 
6:14 PM
Wow, she just yanked her hair down. o_O
 
did she died
 
What sport was that?
 
@eis ... What, "Flag for moderator phone call?" No, it's not a reason to flag the post. — Dave Newton 15 mins ago
 
Soccer?
 
@ThePhD It appears she did.
 
6:15 PM
Anyone here know anything about perl? We need help in this room
 
@EtiennedeMartel tu connais un peu de perl?
 
@Mysticial Ahahahhahahahahaha idiots debugging injected code
 
@user1690130 Je ne toucherais pas à cette merde avec une pôle de 10 pieds de long.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Occasion manquée : "avec ma bite"
 
@EtiennedeMartel tu as touche ma question hier
 
6:16 PM
@user1690130 J'ai touché quoi?
 
tu as poste un commente :P
 
@NolwennLeGuen Tututu
 
@Zoidberg could you please help?
 
user142019
Why the fuck do you especially ping me?
 
user142019
 
6:18 PM
because you came to the chat room a few seconds ago
 
@Zoidberg We booted him once yesterday for annoying us.
If he continues, flag away.
 
@Zoidberg He does that with everyone.
Textbook case of a help vampire.
 
@Zoidberg you did pop into the perl help room a moment ago :/ I almost pinged you myself.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm still not in there
 
user142019
6:21 PM
@EtiennedeMartel heh :)
 
@CatPlusPlus The sad part is that the OP doesn't realize it or doesn't care.
 
@NolwennLeGuen Because you have tits.
 
@Zoidberg If you haven't ignored him already, you want to get pinged.
 
Boost has multiprecision?! Excellent!
 
Etienne: j'ai pense que nous parlions bien pour un moment
 
6:23 PM
@MooingDuck Yeah, and you can even plug in different back-ends.
 
mais je vois la verite
que tu me deteste
 
Not that I've looked at the back-end interface or anything.
 
Eh siboire.
 
@user1690130 see this room's brown list, please.
 
6:26 PM
Je ne déteste personne. Sauf peut-être Stephen Harper.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Harpeur
 
@Borgleader Stéphane*
 
@EtiennedeMartel je suis desole que tous le monde me deteste
tres desole
 
I don't know how these people end up on my ignore list
I seriously wasn't adding anyone today
 
by clicking ignore
 
6:28 PM
@CatPlusPlus Must be a bug.
 
@CatPlusPlus ce n'est pas difficile for the meow meow
 
@CatPlusPlus i think maybe it's time for me to remove the one person i have there. how do i do that?
 
Must be a returning customer
 
probably
 
I don't even know who's in mine
 
6:29 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Click on your name on the chat's main page, prefs
 
I'm ignoring the worst programmer ever, can't be a bad thing right?
 
@CatPlusPlus very thanks! found it, fixed
 
hmmm I've also ignored ecatmur, I wonder how that happened?!
 
@TonyTheLion non, c'est moi
 
oh gawd, who remembers this guy?
 
6:31 PM
I don't.
 
@TonyTheLion 'Room for Martin James and Saeid87' WOT?
 
some of the older regulars prolly remember him
 
@TonyTheLion Hmmm...now that you mention it, he hasn't been around in a while, has he?
 
@MartinJames In case you want to 1v1 chat
 
@JerryCoffin yea, hasn't been here in at least a year or longer
but I remember the nuisance
@MartinJames lol
I think I remember arguments between him and jalf
 
6:33 PM
> Q: Why Java developers wear glasses?
> A: Because they can't C#
lulz
 
you're slow
 
that's terribad.
 
@TonyTheLion The guy wears glasses.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Funny, but old.
 
Awful
 
6:34 PM
huh?
 
Welp.
It's been 5 days of trying to defeat this bug.
But I think it's defeated me.
 
@CatPlusPlus what's awful?
 
Nuking everything, starting from scratch...
 
@ThePhD I always win
 
@TonyTheLion That pun
 
6:35 PM
oh yea
 
@NolwennLeGuen You're the bug in my code? D:
Make it go away plsplspls. ;~;
 
She's Cicada
she's the bug in this room
among other things
 
Damnit, I'm not of legal age to drink.
 
Five days on one bug? That must be some kind of record, (outside system integration).
 
Ahaha your country
 
6:36 PM
I was going to get drunk over this bug, and then rewrite my whole codebase.
Now I have to do it sober. D:
@MartinJames It's some underlying problem with DirectX or how I'm using it.
I honestly don't know what to make of it anymore.
 
@ThePhD ...or both. But it's probably safe to blame DirectX.
 
TIL that C++ has no negative integral literals. -123 is the unary negation operator applied to the integral literal 123.
 
Oh, OK, I guess I have to add DirectX to my blacklist.
 
I've gone so far as to copy-paste code from well-known repos over the places where I know the problem is, and then just hit compile.
Shit breaks immediately.
 
C&P never works.
 
6:38 PM
can you post an example?
 
I'm so befuddled, I even went back and hand-verified every BlendStateOperation and DepthstencilRasterizer for a whole frame.
 
That bad? Gotta be something silly..
 
My god, the math is right.
 
C&P never works in C++
 
@MartinJames I KNOW RIGHT
It's gonna be something
that's just FULL-ON retarded
And I'm gonna flip 20 tables.
 
6:39 PM
it is something, it's called a bug
 
@CatPlusPlus s/in C++//. FTFY.
 
when that happened to me
I forgot to increment a pointer in a loop.
 
Heh! As long as it's not me, I don't care.
 
oh gawd
 
I have no pointer-based loops at the moment.
(I did check for that, though)
 
6:39 PM
@JerryCoffin There are languages much better for that (less reliant on context, with more expressive type systems) :V
 
@CatPlusPlus ..and yet, C&P is still a fail.
 
guys I said something important; pay attention
 
I only have three tables in my offce, and they're far too heavy to flip. I have to resort to mouse-swinging and headbanging keyboard.
 
@MartinJames can't u just swipe them?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the negative literals thing? I knew that already
 
6:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What? That you're still learning the rudiments of C and C++? How is that important?
 
@MooingDuck unknow it, then read my message.
@JerryCoffin :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit heh
 
Uggh...
What have I done to deserve this...
You know what's extremely funny?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit i am guessing from others comments that it's about expressing INT_MIN as literal? it ain't
 
It works perfectly for 2D.
 
6:42 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ah, but nothing to be sad about there -- practically every time I turn around I re-learn something rudimentary.
 
I always assumed, I guess, that -123 was a literal in entirety, and I bet that's rather commonplace
 
Like, all my 2D drawing is done using a 3D backend, and it just works flawlessly.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf No, there is valuable stuff on them, jars of mango pickle, stuff like that.
 
Fast, easy, positions everything right, not weird artifacts no crazy zingies on the screen, it just... ... works.
 
@ThePhD your face?
 
6:43 PM
@MartinJames well on my phone i can just swipe things out left (or right, as the whim takes me)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit When it looks at you, yeah it gets pretty funny. :P
 
@ThePhD duh doy
which reminds me.. new Community on thurs :D
 
user142019
C# y u no multiple inheritance.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh! ok. now -- progress to INT_MIN... ;-) there's so infinitely much weird in C++...
 
@Zoidberg Because that makes things a whole lot easier.
 
6:45 PM
@Zoidberg there's, like, no need for it
 
@Zoidberg No use
 
well, sort of
 
Interfaces....
 
@MartinJames he's clearly not talking about interfaces
 
does C# make a distinction between inheriting from classes and implementing from interfaces, though? I bet it does
so multiple implementation but not multiple inheritance
or whatever the terminology is
 
6:46 PM
Yes.
 
One class inheritance only, multiple interfaces.
Structs can have interfaces, but not substructs/classes.
All structs are copy-by-value, whereas classes are by-reference.
 
wait what
oh god
 
inorite
 
On the whole, it's a pretty neat type system.
 
6:47 PM
it's the biggest pile of shit since void*.
2
 
You're kidding, right? D:
 
@ThePhD no
 
no
 
I Love being able to inherit a type system depending on which version I use.
 
6:48 PM
you mean, fucking over all your users who need the opposite semantics for absolutely no reason?
 
@DeadMG gay marriage!
 
There's little interesting things about C# type system
 
If I want lazy-initialization and nullability, I can choose a class. If I need copy-by-value semantics and non-nullability, I choose a struct. It makes sense to me.
 
@ThePhD Then you didn't think hard enough.
what about what your user needs?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit For what it's worth, this is because of C's maximum munch lexing. If -123 could be a literal, then something like 345-123 would be lexed as <integer literal><integer literal> instead of the expected <integer literal><operator><integer literal>. To fix that, you'd need context-dependent lexing where the parser told the lexer whether the next symbol should be an operator or an operand.
 
6:49 PM
Nullability should be detached from value/ref semantics
 
@ThePhD they should have called it named_tuple, then
@CatPlusPlus nah
 
oh wait, unless you're fucking precognitive, you can't figure out whether your user needs value or reference semantics.
 
@CatPlusPlus well yeah okay
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yah
 
or indeed, nullability.
not to mention that there's Nullable<T> built in for value types
 
6:49 PM
you nullbilly
 
IOW, you fail.
 
mystruct? arf; <--- nullable type for value-types.
 
@JerryCoffin makes sense
 
Albeit I'm sure there's some overhead or some dumb shit associated with it.
 
Can't say I care much about value semantics
 
6:50 PM
@JerryCoffin I guess I just never thought about it, is all
 
I just like that it usually assumes that unless you're using primitive types (integers & floats and the like), you want to be using a class, which isn't a terrible model.
The fact that it allows you to choose which one you want - or wrap up one in the other - is very nice.
 
it doesn't allow you to choose anything.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not really surprising -- most people don't until/unless that actually write a lexer for it. A tribute to the design of C that you almost need to care.
 
it allows that guy five years ago who had no idea what the fuck he was doing or what you are doing to make a choice and fuck you with it for all eternity.
 
Yeah, but it's a consistent and clear choice and if you don't like it, there's options builtin to the language. o_O
 
6:52 PM
no, there aren't.
you can't change a reference type to a value type.
else, they'd just be "types", like a sane system.
 
Dunno about all eternity, I've only been fucked about by poor design choices for 36 years.
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@ThePhD I believe DeadMG is referring to the stringBuilder struct as opposed to the stringBuilder class. You don't have a choice. The person who made stringBuilder already made it for you.
 
and there's fuck shit balls you can do about it
 
He's a value semantics zealot you can safely disregard
 
not in this case
 
6:54 PM
semantics
 
I simply appreciate the choice to allocate objects where I choose.
I use value or reference semantics as I need.
something that is substantially impaired when some other cock comes along and goes "NA NA NA CAN'T BE A REFERENCE/VALUE".
 
And I prefer immutable types where value/ref semantics don't really matter :v
 
Well, I suppose it's not really suitable for library code then.
 
@CatPlusPlus I misparsed that as "I prefer X during CONDITION". Took me a sec to realize it was "I prefer X because EFFECT".
 
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Q: Global qualification in base specifier

Lightness Races in OrbitAs a follow-up to " What is this crazy C++0x syntax? ", I'd expect the following C++0x code to compile: struct x {}; struct :::x {} y {}; However, GCC 4.7.0 20110731 tells me: error: global qualification of class name is invalid before ':' token And when I take a step back towards sanity...

@JerryCoffin Same reason I asked this, I guess
@JerryCoffin Well, almost; I already knew it was invalid and just wanted to get a post out of it. But yeah.
 
6:59 PM
throws hands up.
DIRECT X I HATE YOOOOU.
 

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