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7:00 PM
@EtiennedeMartel you mean this piece/album/artist? First time.
 
user142019
No I mean container_traits<T>::value_type. :P
 
user142019
Oh wait you can just get that from typename T::value_type.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Oh. RemoveReference<decltype(*begin(r))>.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, I usually share music by sending a song first. That generally means "If you like that song, get the album it's on. Then maybe some other albums by that artist".
 
user142019
Yeah right.
 
user142019
7:01 PM
That works with C arrays. xD
 
Xeo
Or with iterator_traits.
 
By the way, is kyrostat repo private?
 
Xeo
iterator_traits<decltype(begin(r))>::value_type
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think so yes, some people wanted to make money out of it
 
@bamboon rofl.
 
Xeo
7:01 PM
Ahahahaha
 
@BartekBanachewicz yep^^
 
user142019
Ideally I want a generic function that behaves like std::vector<>::data() but on any sequential container (std::vector<>, std::array<>, std::string<>, C-style arrays).
 
user142019
But that doesn't really belong in container_traits. :P
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Eh, since only sequential containers offer .data()...
 
user142019
C-style arrays don't. :L
 
Xeo
7:02 PM
And there overloading strikes again.
It's just a fact of life that you need to special-case C-style arrays.
 
Or stop supporting them.
 
user1182183
Service level agreement 100% uptime guarantee 2500% uptime guarantee WAT.
 
Xeo
template<class C> auto data(C& c) -> decltype(c.data()){ return c.data(); }
template<class T, std::size_t N> T* data(T (&a)[N]){ return a; }
 
user142019
template<class, T class Container>
T* data(Container c) {
    return c.data();
}

template<class T, std::size_t N>
T* data((const T& /* or whatever the damn syntax was :P */)[N] c) {
    return c;
}
 
user1182183
how can a hosting company guarantee 2500 % uptime ? ; o
 
Xeo
7:04 PM
@GamErix 25 servers!
 
user142019
@Xeo yeah right thanks. :D
 
user1182183
@Xeo oh
 
@Xeo - best answered pictorially:
 
user142019
I want to use that for a little library I'm writing.
 
Xeo
@BrettHale Pictures don't load well on my home connection.
 
7:05 PM
@Zoidberg weren't you writing zoidlang?
 
Is there a difference between string::data() and string::c_str() ?
 
user142019
In C++11 no.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg You surely don't want to copy the container and surely don't want to return a pointer to local data. :D
 
user142019
In C++03 in practice no in theory yes.
 
Xeo
@AndreiTita Not anymore.
 
7:05 PM
Well it builds and runs.
 
user142019
@Xeo indeed. xD
 
Except I get a giant black cube on a cyan background :D
 
@Cicada press and hold space. And fly a bit higher
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Also, alias<T[N]>& a :D
 
user142019
7:06 PM
 
Xeo
STOP POSTING IMAGES, GNAAA.
 
user142019
:D
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg lol, minecraft
 
Xeo
I'm trying to load a youtube video in another tab, you fools!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Still black but I see the terrain structure
 
7:07 PM
@Cicada even when you're above the whole cube?
Also W/S/A/D works
R - erase block you are pointing to, T - place a TNT block
 
Yeah I figured
 
@Zoidberg Got a link for that?
 
I want to know the details.
 
wait
Are the textures on the repo?
 
7:08 PM
 
@Cicada there's only one file
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus Cat posting dogs? you're a SPY.
 
@BrettHale You know, I was going to pretend I find this good but I just can't.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ah yes. Meh.
 
Xeo
7:09 PM
Hmm... with enough patience, I'll eventually get my Yt vids to load! Bwahahahaha!
As long as you guys stop posting pictures, that is.
 
Cue petapixel photo of the universe
@BartekBanachewicz Other than this very minor setback, nicely done :)
Got it to build without too much pain
 
Xeo
I'll move that shit so fast, I'll make the bits reach lightspeed.
 
@Cicada blushes I'd like you to see colors ASAP; my GF wants to watch a movie
 
Nah dw
 
Xeo
7:11 PM
Anyways, I think I'll go hunt a bit.
 
Probably related to my opengl install or something
@BartekBanachewicz Don't worry
 
oh
Please get the gDEBugger
It should help in diagnosis
Oooogh
I just saw
 
harhar https://jobs.github.com/positions/51820032-4643-11e2-9778-edd86370bba6
> You should have strong opinions on why at least one of these languages sucks: Java, Python, Ruby, C, C++, Javascript, PHP
 
uncomment lines 312 and 313 of main_windows.cpp @Cicada
 
@CatPlusPlus That's a cool dog.
@GamErix He's not a cat, he's a catkin.
 
7:13 PM
I dunno why I commented that -.-
 
failed to deduce filetype
mmm prolly missing png codecs
maybe cause i'm in a poor country
 
lol
I am afraid it might be my code
 
go and be with your girlfriend you silly
 
heh. see you tomorrow
 
@ScottW Hey dog.
 
7:17 PM
We are doing fine.
 
We are doing fine.
 
@AndreiTita - wait for the white knights to show up any minute now to defend this creepy, puerile 'art form'.
 
@BrettHale Not here :(
 
@BrettHale I listened to some K-Pop and it was fairly objectionable.
 
@BrettHale Say what?
 
Xeo
7:21 PM
"No, Mr. Burger, I expect you to be eaten."
 
user142019
Showertime.
 
@Zoidberg Stop.
 
Xeo
@ScottW "Stop - showertime"
 
@ScottW It's a MC Hammer reference.
 
Xeo
I think something just passed high over your head.
 
7:23 PM
@DeadMG - of course it is! You are sane! Society has seen fit to grant you access to a keyboard, so it's the only logical conclusion I would expect from you. You wouldn't hurt a kitten @DeadMG, would you? No. So why would you enjoy K/J-pop?
 
Oh yes.
@BrettHale KITTEHS
 
@EtiennedeMartel - right. Dizzy stuff.
 
@BrettHale Uh, I might well hurt a kitten.
 
@DeadMG This would force me to find where you live and piss in your letterbox.
 
Xeo
Hm. VsVim is only for 2010, huh?
 
7:29 PM
@DeadMG - you wouldn't. You ever watch the show 'Dexter'? That's what I ask myself daily: 'What would Dexter Morgan do?'
 
@BrettHale I do.
 
Someone wrote a masters dissertation on lolcats?
LOL
 
@EtiennedeMartel: Like cats, like the old Cure song, but everyone in this video needs to be rendered down to recover the valuable resources their bodies are carrying. You know - like 'Dune' - they're 80% water.
 
Xeo
Soo.. 30min download time for 14MB. Ugh.
I get the feeling it'd be saner to do this at work.
 
7:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Problem fixed
 
Xeo
Fff... the site just killed my download. :| Fuck it, I'll do it at work tomorrow.
 
so I might actually get pictures of kittens hung up in the office at work. :)
 
@Xeo still faster than a 56k modem
 
Xeo
@refp Right - I effectively have a 64k modem.
8KB/s down.
I have some nice EasyBox routers in my vicinity, but all of them don't use the standard password. :(
 
@Xeo what's the reason for this god given connection?
 
Xeo
7:40 PM
@refp Tethering through my phone until my real interweb arrives next week.
 
how dare those fuckers practice remotely detect network security?
 
@Xeo what's the reason for this god given 1990's phone?
 
Xeo
@refp Huh? Just the connection is shitty, not the phone.
Can't do much if you've already exhausted your weekly volume of a thundering 50MB
And they cut you down to 64kbit.
 
@Xeo what's the reason for this god given geographic area with bad connectivity that you are in?
@Xeo oh, alright - that makes sense
 
Xeo
No
 
7:43 PM
that's my current phone, it's actually much nicer than I thought it would be
erhm, yes.
anyhow; I have a blackberry bold 9900 as well, that one needs to be charged every 20th hour (with normal use which includes texting/mail/calls/im clients)
my nokia RH-70 1110 can go days and days without needing a charge
(I charge it like once a week)
I still text as much as I would on my blackberry, though "ofc" reading/sending emails isn't possible, and I can't go on facebook/twitter/youtube/whatever..
 
@Xeo - you would be better off with carrier pigeon. Seriously: ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt
 
the most annoying thing is that I can't listen to music using my phone, but problem solved with me digging up a mad old mp3-player
same thing there; the charge lasts forever
back in the days they had two priorities; easy to use, fast, and long battery life
 
Xeo
Well, they both don't have to do much in comparision to a "smart" phone.
 
seems like todays manufactures only think about "fast", and a little bit of "easy to use" - MAYBE
@Xeo of course not.. but when you think about it; is the battery development at it's peak, or is it just that it's not as prioritized anymore?
still, my nokia cold boots in less than a second - and we played soccer with it at my friends bar just a few days ago, still works
good luck with doing that with a modern phone (not even the booting will compare)
 
Xeo
@refp Eh, if you'd put modern batteries into your old phone, it'd stay charged for months probably.
 
7:48 PM
that's not my point
the cpu per battery capacity ratio isn't what it used to
 
@BrettHale nice
 
@bamboon - it was for @Xeo. Big beautiful images to brighten his day
 
Xeo
@BrettHale Which knocks down my connection, while loading the image.. yeah, totally brightens my day. :P
Stop it or I'll bin you.
In fact, let's just do that.
 
I'm sorry @Xeo, it was immature of me. If you wish to bin me however, I will understand, and find the strength to carry on.
 
POWER ABUSE
 
7:54 PM
@Cicada Welcome.
 
@Xeo Your connection sucks.
 
Xeo
@Cicada For Great Good™.
 
@Xeo my blackberry has a battery with a capacity of 1230 mAh, my nokia has a battery capacity of 900 mAh, though the processor of my blackberry .. erhm, that doesn't matter I guess since I can't find how "fast" the processor of my nokia is
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel No shit, Sherlock.
I don't know how you figured that out.
 
@Xeo Then why should you blame @BrettHale for something that is essentially on your end?
 
7:54 PM
@refp Processor speed vs. Java runtime overhead?
 
@ShotgunNinja this phone does not run java..
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel I only tolerate certain trolls.
 
In fact, why are you here? Get a better connection! Chop chop!
 
@Xeo Well, you complain about your connection speed. That's probably how he guessed. I think.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel My new connection is being delivered through my old one. Guess why it'll only be here next week. :D
 
7:55 PM
@Xeo as you probably figured out, what I mean is; I don't think the cpu of my blackberry is just ~40% faster than the processing capacity of the nokia
 
@EtiennedeMartel - cause I was being a dick. OTOH, this nimrod listens to J-Pop, so it all balances out.
 
Xeo
@refp Hm, I thought the battery'd hold more.
 
@refp Isn't one of them (Blackberry or Nokia's older OS) done with Java?
 
@BrettHale He listens to remixes of crappy game soundtracks. It's not exactly J-pop.
 
haha jpop
 
7:56 PM
> Security is not generally a problem in normal operation, but special measures must be taken (such as data encryption) when avian carriers are used in a tactical environment.
 
@Cicada There's no salad on this picture.
 
@Xeo sadly that isn't the case
 
Xeo
Mine has 1500mAh
 
@Xeo still, do you think the processing capacity is just twice of what is in movitelonline.com/data/modelos/d_nokia_1110-DCT4-RH-70.jpg ? :/
 
@Cicada removed :(
 
7:57 PM
whoa, pretty women in the Lounge? All the nerd guys, act like baboons!
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah big pictures are annoying
 
I AM A MALE MODEL, SLEEP WITH ME!
 
Even when they make fun of Xeo
 
^ that has worked before, @Cicada is a tough one though.. probably a trap
 
Sorry @bamboon
 
7:58 PM
@ShotgunNinja erb, what?
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Eh, I'd like to veto on the "crappy".
 
2 mins ago, by Shotgun Ninja
whoa, pretty women in the Lounge? All the nerd guys, act like baboons!
 

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