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13:00
@TonyTheLion even the chavs dare not venture? :P
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If it was an actual problem, people would bitch at their council/MP/whatever until it was against the law.
@DeadMG yeah, they do.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit even chavs don't venture here
so desolate is this place, where I live, it is chav free
I love that phrase
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, there was this one council which just imposed fines, but that's hardly national.
13:00
@DeadMG Are you seriously suggesting that no problem exists because only one council has so far legislated against it?
DeadMG logic
@DeadMG That's a bit like saying nobody ever steals a car because no council has brought in tougher sentencing for it recently
Imposing fines is OK, collecting them is not so easy.
@MartinJames Yeah tbf it's a bit of a silly new rule. Very hard to enforce and possibly the wrong approach anyway. FWIW, that's why only one council has done it. Not because nobody's spitting
the collection problem - is it P or NP?
Ell
Ell
13:01
look what I found in @BartekBanachewicz 's code! github.com/bananu7/Engine/blob/master/dependencies/Singleton.h
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not really. It would be like arguing that stealing cars isn't a national problem because it's been going on for thousands of years and we still don't have laws against it.
perhaps if you were talking about some new thing, where people had to take time and think about it, like those legal highs.
What are chavs?
Fine, £30. Costs of court proceedings etc, £2000. Result -fail.
Ell
Ell
13:02
@R.MartinhoFernandes council house and violent (basically thugs/hooligans/whippersnappers)
@DeadMG No, your logic is.. amusing. You first tried to find a way to defend a claim that something is not a problem, and now when your method breaks down you just changed your proposition entirely. You are dead to mg.
Unemployed PHP developers
CSingleton. I am disappoint.
basically anyone who is stupid, looks ugly, lives on benefits and generally acts like a total tool in public, spitting on streets, stealing TVs, shouting at randomers just to make them feel uncomfortable
13:03
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Q: How to remove unclosed curves in a binary image?

bsdnoobzAfter some processing, I have this binary image: I want to remove the unclosed curves i.e. the top left and the bottom right curves. Can you suggest me the algorithm for doing this? Thanks.

that sounds hard
I do feel that the definition has broadened over the years - the papers used to insist that chavs must only be wearing burberry caps, which was particularly retarded
West Ham supporters.
I don't see the word "chav" in the paper any more, probably because it would constitute "hate speech" or something. Hooliganism was briefly alluded to during the nationwide looting/rioting the other year (you haven't seen prbolems in 10 years, REALLY?) but the papers generally just call it "Broken Britain" and social breakdown now.
chav- cheltenham average - someone once told me that's where it originated from
not sure if true
13:05
there are all sorts of stories of where the term originated. bit like "okay". doubt we'll ever know
Yeah, pity about the Burberry caps, though - it would have made auto-targeting easier.
Ell
Ell
I thought it was council house and violent
@Ell why do you 'rediscover' this. You were there the other two times. I was the first to report it, though
Ell
Ell
@sehe oh :3 sorry :o
"class CSingleton abstract"??????
13:06
Oh, I love that one
Sep 23 '12 at 17:55, by sehe
@BartekBanachewicz "lang." (loose the abbrev)/ Why is SVN/Git only 4 years? Do you mean, VCS = 4+4 = 8yrs? It made me think "Wait - he worked for 5 years in C++ without source control?"
CVs should start at 18
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hm? aah, I understand
as a potential employer I don't want to know about what programming you did at the age of 8. It's not going to help me
As a person aged 20, it wouldn't help me
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz you know engine, which xml library does it use? pugixml or rapidxml?
13:09
so you take half a day out of your busy schedule for someone who has 15 years of C++ experience, and it turns out that they're 26, just graduated with a PhD, and have no useful practical experience but they have been making shitty games since they were 11
though I suppose that's more just an example of how CVs only get you so far
Ell
Ell
Kk
Chav CV? 2004-2005 twoccing cars and general spitting.
@Ell How are you feeling today?
@MartinJames 2005- Lyk between opportunites pmsl
13:09
"pmsl"?
Ell
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit much better :P I still felt it waking up, but most of the nausea has subsided :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes "pissing myself laughing". An internet abbreviation that's now used only by chavs and little girls, though it used to be fairly common in the mainstream back in AOLtimes
Sure it is. It might be one of the important indicators.
Not without other data points, but important
@Ell Great! Drink away tonight!
Ell
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit haha no :P
13:11
when you see "pmsl" on a FB comment thread, it's probably because you're on one of those stupid "chain" thingies where someone posts a really obvious equation that has some parentheses missing, and 30,000 people descend on it to give the wrong answer
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well. That's another matter. I think the experience years should start at post-adolescence, indeed
@LightnessRacesinOrbit inter(yawn)esting
I'm getting better too. My throat now accepts more than Strepsils and cough-syrup. The Covonia hangover has gone. I will try beer tonight.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yaaw (give)
Young Artists at Work?
oh!
tosser!
13:13
You Accidentally A Word
oh.
Did I?
"die in give a fire" hmm nope
bbl douches lunch <£<£
<3<3*
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Soooo you figured out what I thought you were trying to say. It's just, I don't enjoy fires, nor dieing
@sehe ooh I get it now
But you didn't. Give one.
13:21
Try to follow the advise of Charlie Sheen from Two and a Half Men: If it doesn't fit, don't force it. :D — LihO 1 min ago
user484068
It seems like a few of you are from the UK
user484068
Anyone go to any C++ user groups?
user484068
Whenever I look, there is no sign of any
Ell
Ell
dafuq cmake is terribad
user484068
13:23
@Luchian - Yes, but not much C++ being discussed!
You keep missing it.
user484068
:-D - probably
@BenHanson You don't pay any attention then. Seriously. There have been wilder times, yes. But still this is the goto place for some highlevel c++ bashing discussion
> There is no news about new User Groups in Europe. There has been some movement in London, but yet no person willing to organize it. To get started is not that difficult, and it does not make a lot of work.
Xeo
Xeo
Robot, Y U NO link my type erasure question. :(
13:26
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/it does not make a lot of work/it does not make a lot of sense/ for me
@Xeo Sorry, got distracted (I have it open in a tab to copy the link... :S)
Xeo
Xeo
lol, k
user484068
@R.MartinhoFernandes - Thanks
For fucks sake
It's not bad here, mostly. If you arive in the middle of cake, PHP-bashing or the global anti-Zoidberg conspiracy, it can be a bit offputting, but the C++ is usually interesting when it happens.
13:28
VS debugger is broken
Oh, Berlin user group meeting tomorrow.
Have German class, can't go.
Are you going @sbi?
Xeo
Xeo
Not in Berlin, can't go.
user484068
I was reading about Hackerspaces a while back
take a look ^
Xeo
Xeo
13:29
@BartekBanachewicz Release build?
I suspect that I would be quarantined at the airport and have to spend months barking at dogs.
@Xeo Debug -.-
Xeo
Xeo
Optimized debug? :P
Ell
Ell
does c++ have an abstract keyword? o.O
Xeo
Xeo
Also, pssst: result.back().
@Ell no
Xeo
Xeo
Oh wait, you want one before the end?
@Xeo it's not .back(). It's [size-2]
Ell
Ell
13:30
or is that just old? and defunct?
MS extension.
@Ell it's a singleton. Of course it's defunct.
Xeo
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Wtf are you doing.
Maybe size() is borked.
Ell
Ell
I'm just trying to build your engine ;)
13:31
48 secs ago, by Xeo
Oh wait, you want one before the end?
@Ell do you have develop-2.0 branch?
Ell
Ell
no :'(
@R.MartinhoFernandes funny thing is, it works few lines above, with nearly identical statement
Ell
Ell
I guess I have to start again? :P
@Ell yes. I am 90% sure I told you about that
Xeo
Xeo
Gah, I have nothing to eat or drink here, and my stomach is revolting. :(
13:32
Didn't you have lunch?
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I'm pretty sure you didn't, but oh well, it was a learning experience xD
I need one before the end, because the last one is the one hit, and the one before end is the place where I want to put a new cube
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also, inside w.set pretty much correct results are present
Okay. I dunno wtf the debugger is doing, but you can now add and remove cubes
Works like creative mode in vanilla
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes No. :(
There's your problem?
Xeo
Xeo
I know.
Ell
Ell
13:43
turns out I can't use git
who can?
@Ell :) just download a .zip then
Ell
Ell
it's okay, it will be a learning experience
@Xeo You don't have a lunch break?
13:44
I'm also falling asleep
@Ell I am afraid I'll start a new project by the time you compile that one
I should probably go home
Ell
Ell
Heh then it will be two learning experiences
Also, pull again, because I just commited both repos
Ell
Ell
right
13:45
@BartekBanachewicz It would be undisputable truth if you happened to be Zoidberg.
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz what will your new project be?
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do, but I didn't bring anything. :|
Wooo I wrote a lambda!
Erm, go out and buy something?
13:47
Wait for it...
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eh, I'll leave in ~2h anyways, I think.
Wtf, that late already. o_o
@Ell lol, I don't know yet
@R.MartinhoFernandes yea, I thought the same
I kinda expected a "I didn't bring my wallet either" from @Xeo
that's why I said "Wait for it"
Xeo
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Nah, that I have. But it's a bit of a walk to the nearest food-supplier. I'll just endure.
13:51
hehe, endure, I do that everyday
but it's not hunger
Xeo
Xeo
And since I can chat from home now, I don't have too much reason to stay here in the evening.
@Xeo That sounds...
Weird.
Xeo
Xeo
I'll just load some stuff during the day. Reminds me, I need to watch that Systematic Error Handling talk by Andrej.
omg C++/CLI static analyzer thinks that references (T&) could be null
> CA106 Validate arguments of public methods
In externally visible method 'Point::Point(const CPointMap&)', validate parameter 'p' before using it.
13:53
fail
not necessarily
if CPointMap is a GC reference/pointer type.
then the underlying value could still be null.
although the reference parameter itself can't be obviously
@DeadMG you can't use & with a managed type
oic
Hiya!
@DeadMG : Good to see you man! :D
@GamesBrainiac You are under the false impression that puppy would be happy to see anyone. I'm going to disabuse you of that idea before he does :)
user142019
13:58
Hi.
@TonyTheLion : WTF?
@Zoidberg : Hey man! :D
lol
you're too new here
you'll learn
yes, I am
I try to be respectful to everyone here
user142019
Hey I've got a question.
At all times
13:59
Good

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