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11:00 PM
Doorknob... hm.
Well, okay.
 
I come back to see MSVC staring at me on the starboard. Excellent...
 
right
I think I earned myself a quick break
time to play a 2.5hour game of Starcraft 2
 
"quick break"
 
user142019
I'm writing a spec. :L gist.github.com/daknok/4973923
 
user142019
11:02 PM
Awesome.
 
user142019
Haha the pseudo-BNF looks weird there.
 
Tabs are not whitespace?
Oh... wait.
 
user142019
Oh shit I forgot function parameters.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
 
user142019
I didn't even think of that lol.
 
11:04 PM
Tab should be a whitespace. :D
 
Meh, no Unicode identifiers. You suck.
 
user142019
Tabs should be syntax errors.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unicode identifiers are terrible.
 
The puppy has that. Right @DeadMG?
 
no
 
11:05 PM
@Zoidberg That's horrible. D:
 
pretty sure that they are accurately classified as whitespace.
 
No, I meant identifiers.
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Meh, no Unicode identifiers. You suck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How would you do unicode identifiers, though?/
 
@ThePhD There's a spec for it.
 
11:06 PM
It'd mean almost every possible bit combination in a uint32 was legal.
 
Save for specific whitespace ones.
 
oh
well, I sure don't have Unicode identifiers
 
user142019
Okay I added more whitespace due to popular demand.
 
user142019
COMMENTS!
 
11:07 PM
so hurry your ass up and port ogonek to MSVC :P
 
user142019
Oh wait.
 
user142019
I want ', ? and ! in identifiers too.
 
Why don't you just say that comments are ignored?
 
user142019
Because you cannot have foo/**/bar as a single token foobar.
 
user142019
11:09 PM
And saying they're whitespace is just as easy and implies this.
 
@Zoidberg Zoid. Zoid? Zoid!
 
Reminds me of Ook!
 
user142019
Convention would be ? for functions that return a Boolean and ! for member functions that modify the object rather than returning a new one, similar to Ruby.
 
no, REALLY?
 
user142019
@DeadMG yes, REALLY!
 
user142019
11:12 PM
Okay.
 
user142019
> Identifiers must match [a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9_'?!].
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb, your answer doesn't make any sense. It can't even pass the compile. — icando 1 hour ago
 
user142019
Identifiers in Zoidlang will be very undescriptive according to the current spec. :L
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
user142019
They can only be two characters. xD
 
11:14 PM
Hm.
 
0
Q: is-a and has-a implementation error

Rudi AksamSo, I got a code like this: class Fruit {//some constructor method and instance in here} class Banana: public Fruit {//some constructor method and instance in here} class plant { public: plant(){ thisFruit->Banana();//everytime a new plant is created, its thisFruit will point to a...

^ Where do people learn to think like this in C++?
 
user142019
s/rule of three/rule of zero/ — Zoidberg 17 secs ago
 
user142019
:3
 
user142019
@Insilico school/cplusplus.com/bad fora/noobs
 
@Insilico From books and other terrible resources.
Also just naturally messing around.
 
11:17 PM
-5
Q: How to deal with Scumbeg Steve?

Viktor La CroixI would say it's pretty common that people ask their question on SO but also somwhere else. I don't like it, but there is probably nothing we can do about this, but picture following scenario: Somebody asks question on SO after four days you see that question and decide to look into it. So yo...

 
@ThePhD The -> thing is new to me. Even cplusplus.com gives at least a decent description of what it is.
 
@Insilico C++ as a first language is madness
 
@Doorknob I like Nicol's answer. "What are you, six years old?"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, I upvoted it :)
 
> So I will post it here, but I don't want you to click on it.
 
11:19 PM
Lol
 
@Doorknob Oh god
 
Oh god indeed @Cat
 
Wait, what.
> So what Am I asking here? It would be nice to let other people know some users are scumbeg. Little button in his profile [This User pissed me off] There are other situations I would use it.
 
user142019
0
Q: is-a and has-a implementation error

Rudi AksamSo, I got a code like this: class Fruit {//some constructor method and instance in here} class Banana: public Fruit {//some constructor method and instance in here} class plant { public: plant(){ thisFruit->Banana();//everytime a new plant is created, its thisFruit will point to a...

 
user142019
11:20 PM
Bringing some sanity to the sea of bad answers.
 
WTF kind of feature suggestion is this.
 
OP is asking for a feature to mark bad posters so we can use it on him
 
oh the irony :D
 
Cat has all these emotes in store. x3
It's so lovely.
Maybe I should write something that with specific syntax changes my text to a link of an emote.
 
user142019
11:23 PM
emot-psyboom.gif is still my favourite.
 
:pedo: wtf
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
 
user142019
lol awesome
 
Hint: it's a script that transforms :text: into images
 
(Install it, and we can even stop oneboxing gifs)
 
@CatPlusPlus Now, if only there was a script to turn those images into back into :text:
 
What are bullet lists in markdown?
Wait, there has to be a wiki for this somewhere
 
user142019
I will make if, while, for and switch expressions instead of statements.
 
* a
* b
* c
 
11:30 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, now I gained more confidence over myself now. If such a person is a C++ expert, then I can definitely call myself C++ super expert now. It also explains why C++ is evolving so slowly and losing its popularity. It is because standard committee is filled by those non-creative guys. Actually C++ itself is an art, and lots of powerful paradigms are found by programmers, not by the committee guys. — icando 7 mins ago
ahahaha
 
user142019
- a
- b
- c
 
user142019
Much better IMO.
 
@ThePhD Yeah, or, like the Stack Overflow FAQ. It stands for FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lolwut
 
user142019
11:31 PM
One problem is that I have expressions statements in the form: expression ;.
 
user142019
If if is an expression it would look like this:
 
Don't have statements
 
The space before the ; is the problem?
 
user142019
if (condition) {
    foo();
}; // <- lol
 
o_O;
 
11:32 PM
Get rid of ;
 
Roflmao.
I've been thinking about that.
If statements or expressions don't end with ';', how do you delimit them?
Newlines? Spaces?
 
user142019
I should make this a syntax error too, just like tabs:
 
Newline
 
you don't really need to delimit statements, it's only expressions.
 
user142019
fn i_suck_at_braces()
{
    meh();
}
 
user142019
11:32 PM
SYNTAX ERROR OPENING BRACE ON NEW LINE.
 
in c an expression is a statement, not the other way around
 
You should use Tcl
 
@sehe Can you quote the comment? That link doesn't transport me to a particular comment for some reason.
 
Statements are bad
 
user142019
In JavaScript, this is a syntax error:
 
11:33 PM
Douglas Crockford interprets Monads very liberally.
 
I did investigate, for Wide, having something like
 
Don't do statements kids
 
user142019
return
{
    a: 'b',
    c: 'd'
}
 
return(expr) and throw(expr), and ditching ; altogether
 
user142019
Error because implicit ; after return. xD
 
11:33 PM
@FredOverflow Here comes:
> Tehe, I just saw a recent video of your clueless demigod (Crockford) attempt to explain monads to a bunch of JS weenies. What a complete failure. Not only does he say many things that are not true, nor close to true, he says things that remove any hope of allowing the audience to develop a concept that is true.
> Anyway, I was just reminded of your foolishness as I watched this catastrophe unfold. And yes, I am having a nice life, well away from clueless twiddles like you and Crockford!
 
1 min ago, by FredOverflow
Douglas Crockford interprets Monads very liberally.
 
user142019
Wait.
 
so ; will then be a newline? or what
 
user142019
I can make if, for and while functions LOL!
 
user142019
@doug65536 no JavaScript inserts ; if statement ends with newline.
 
11:35 PM
> "Ajax Mondad"? Seriously? That's Method Chaining.... I don't want to live on this planet anymore...
lol
 
In some implementations you can even comment out the implicit semicolon and get a syntax error!
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
Identity monad!
 
@CatPlusPlus I remember that.
 
sometimes this works:
 
11:35 PM
> coloring is for kids, I'm a grown up...but I would like to have coloring...
 
@CatPlusPlus How the hell do you do that?
 
return/*
*/{
    a: 'b',
    c: 'd'
}
 
perl's parser forgives you for forgetting a semicolon if there isn't any ambiguity
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That guy is such a jerk.
 
11:35 PM
Perl's parser is guessing anyway
 
commenting out an invisible character :D
 
@Doorknob That's brilliant.
 
Lol
 
map { print } @the_array; <-- It doesn't care about the missing ; after print
 
> I am not trying to be aggressive or offensive, but I just can't bear brain-dead guys
haha
 
11:37 PM
@sehe He mad.
 
is floorf(-1.5f) guaranteed to return -2.f? ?
 
user142019
Okay this syntax will be very weird:
 
user142019
expression-stmt:
    expression ;

If the last token in the expression is }, the ; can be omitted.
 
user142019
sddfds
 
11:38 PM
You suck so much at this.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, I am not trying to be aggressive or offensive, but I just can't bear brain-dead guys (not you) claiming something impossible, simply because their lack of imagination and creativity. C++ is an art and nothing is impossible. One should never put a limit to his imagination. For example, stackoverflow.com/questions/14508805/…, this seemingly impossible task actually has a very simple and elegant perfect solution found by me. — icando 1 hour ago
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes :P
 
SEE PLUS PLUS IS A ART :downs:
 
> this seemingly impossible task actually has a very simple and elegant perfect solution found by me
That's when you know the OP is full of shit.
 
you know
maybe for once, if I don't want to wake up tired, I should go to bed earlier.
especially as I have a 9:20 am meeting with my doc
 
11:39 PM
Yeah, I should go too.
Gute Nacht!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Good night!
 
@CatPlusPlus "I'm right and the whole world is wrong"
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes G'Nacht.
 
@DeadMG good luck
 
11:40 PM
^ @LightnessRacesinOrbit Y U EDIT THAT?!
 
"a very simple and elegant perfect solution, new from icando"
"formula contains beta-19"
 
A "PREFECT solution"...
 
@AndyProwl already took care of it :D
 
Xeo
3
Q: Why exactly cant alexandrescu use std::uncaught_exception() to implement SCOPE_FAIL in ScopeGuard11?

PorkyBrainMany people are no doubt familiar with Mr. Alexandrescus ScopeGuard template (now part of Loki) and the new version ScopeGuard11 presented here: http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/C-and-Beyond-2012-Andrei-Alexandrescu-Systematic-Error-Handling-in-C with source here: https://gist.github.co...

Hmmm
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit: nooo why :D
 
11:41 PM
"C++ is an art and nothing is impossible" Create a strict infinite array then. — Cat Plus Plus 24 secs ago
Boom
 
@AndyProwl Read the edit reason to find out the reason for the edit
 
> I can't bear brain-dead misspellings.
 
yes, yes indeed
 
I can't bear, I only penguin
 
11:41 PM
I asked, and the Lord giveth.
 
gasp You're a PENGUIN?!
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus What did "strict" mean again?
 
Not lazy
Hint: it's impossible in any language
 
Fuck it.
 
Xeo
That's what I guessed.
 
11:43 PM
@FredOverflow Thanks. Hopefully he found something in the 9 billion litres of my blood he sampled.
 
 thisFruit->Banana();//everytime a new plant is created, its thisFruit will point to a new Banana Object
ahaha only just saw this
 
Damn it.
 
You can't fit an infinite object in finite memory, and you can't create an infinite object in finite time
BUT IT'S A ART
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Even with my limited knowledge of C/C++/C# I laughed at that :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol that made me ask WTF?
 
11:44 PM
@Xeo not lazy
 
I'm sure C++ super expert can find a way to do that
 
Xeo
Heh
 
Maybe we should invite him here so he can teach us the REAL C++
 
@CatPlusPlus "C++ super experts" exist?
 
11:46 PM
yes we'll ask , and leave out of it (just in case)
@Insilico keep up
 
no matter how clever you are, you'll always run into the heat-death of the universe :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, now I gained more confidence over myself now. If such a person is a C++ expert, then I can definitely call myself C++ super expert now. It also explains why C++ is evolving so slowly and losing its popularity. It is because standard committee is filled by those non-creative guys. Actually C++ itself is an art, and lots of powerful paradigms are found by programmers, not by the committee guys. — icando 24 mins ago
 
Xeo
Mmm.. to continue hamgen or not to...
 
@CatPlusPlus What. The. Fuck.
> It is because standard committee is filled by those non-creative guys.
 
:derp:
 
11:47 PM
@Xeo read hangman lol
 
icando is the embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
He totally found a solution to the IMPOSSIBLE
He should be president of Earth
 
> This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes
Suddenly, I understand so many people.
 
@ThePhD Yeah, it's reverse impostor syndrome.
 
People be dumb
 
11:49 PM
@Insilico psychologists should prescribe 1 hour a day in this chat room to cure that illness
 
@doug65536 I have starred that, despite its lack of self-contained context, because it's amusing no matter which illness you pick.
 
@CatPlusPlus Especially when they're Polish cats.
 
Ell
Ugh I'm still dyyinnngg
 
@EtiennedeMartel Confirmed
@Ell Us too
(We too?)
It sounds weird either way
 
Us too.
or "We are too"
 
11:51 PM
We be as well.
 
user142019
Oh also fucking unrestricted switches.
 
user142019
Restricted switches are terrible.
 
We be crazy
 
(One might argue you're not really a cat, but rather a catkin).
 
I'm a napkin
 
user142019
11:52 PM
Switch must be possible to use on anything that has == operator defined.
 
A friend to all nappers.
 
@CatPlusPlus An otherkin that identifies as a nap?
 
@Zoidberg Pattern matching
 
That would explain your laziness.
 
I'M NOT A NUMBER I'M A FREE NAPKIN
 
11:52 PM
> I'm Nala. 20 years old. Cis, vegan, multiracial, bisexual, demisexual, pagan, plural, catkin, witch.
The things you find online....
 
Xeo
constexpr std::size_t sum_chars(char const* p, std::size_t sum = 0){ return *p == '\0' ? sum : *p + sum_chars(p+1); } -- can be used at compile-time and sums all characters~ What more could he want? :D
 
What the fuck does "demisexual" mean
 
powershell has some strange switch syntax.
 
@CatPlusPlus It's the demise of our god xual.
 
Also how the hell can you be plural
 
user142019
11:53 PM
switch-expr:
switch ( expression ) { switch-case* }
switch-case:
case expression ( , expression )* : expression? | default : expression?
 
> A demisexual is a person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone.
 
Unless it's MPD
 
@EtiennedeMartel There is a word for that? TIL
 
But then why does it start with "I'm" not "we're"
 
user142019
Statements are expressions and expressions are statements. :D
 
11:54 PM
@Ell impressive
@Ell Did you eat crisps yet?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Right
 
@CatPlusPlus There's the whole "multiple system" thing, when you think there's multiple identities in you.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel, I am not anti-committee, I just want to kick this stupid answer out of my question here. A guy ``has contributed significant expertise...'' doesn't mean everything he said is correct. Whether an answer is correct or incorrect is just a matter of fact, irrelevant to who said it, even if he was smart in the past. — icando 6 mins ago
Bwahahaha
 
Multiple Personality Disorder :v
 
It's not really MPD, more like Internet-class attention whoring.
 
11:55 PM
Ahm
 
MPD is DID nowadays
also I wish they'd stop calling everything a "disorder" gees
 
Direct inward dialing?
 
@icando It's not stupid if it's the truth, even if said truth is inconvenient for you. — Etienne de Martel 5 secs ago
 
@Zoidberg switch "returns" a value? a = switch (b) { 1: 10; default: 20; }; ?
 
Ell
@lightness I ate pizza
 
user142019
11:56 PM
Yields a value.
 
user142019
Functions return and expressions yield.
 
Ell
Well, a few slices
Ill Probably be fixed in the morning
 
user142019
@doug65536 and yes that's possible.
 
Feb 2 at 20:47, by DeadMG
the nurse took about 9 million litres of my blood
 
Ell
I Better be fixed in the morning
 
11:56 PM
So, this. She's a crazy cat lady who thinks her soul is shared with her cat. Or something. It's fucked up.
 
@DeadMG ^ U CONFUSED? Make your mind up :)
 
user142019
There is also a yield statement for in statement expressions:
 
Hey, I'm out-of-imagination, where's my strict infinite array — Cat Plus Plus 10 secs ago
Also my money
 
Ell
@deadly @zoid do your languages have const?
 
Hey @Deadly
 
Ell
11:58 PM
Damnit.
 
user142019
a := switch (x) {
    case 42: {
        do_something();
        do_something_else();
        if (meh()) {
            yield 6;
        } else {
            yield 5;
        }
    }
    default: -1
}
 
@PeterWood: That works out at a little over 3 minutes per character. You are so brain-dead — Lightness Races in Orbit 19 mins ago
^ whoa
 
@PeterWood, it was voters who made Hitler chancellor. The majorities are stupid. — icando 1 min ago
 
@Zoidberg Is missing default a compile-time error?
 
@sehe yes I worked it out :D
 
Ell
11:59 PM
@zoid are the yields necessary?
 

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