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16:00
Also, I'm hungry
Xeo
Xeo
@Zoidberg Eh, pattern matching would look at the values, though.
user142019
Oh yeah. :P
ewww pattern matching
user142019
Hurray it workz.
Xeo
Xeo
@DeadMG It's awesome when things never change, since they know how they have been created, making it trivial to look at the value.
16:06
I can look at the value anyway
it's called "Having that thing".
Grrr, combining Jekyll with Bootstrap is utterly annoying. I want a static website. Why is that so hard?
because webdev sucks
user142019
Now only hope the generated assembly is correct.
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mov rax, 42
mul rax, 2
mov eax, rax
pop rbp
ret
@KonradRudolph Because you're adding dependencies to useless stuff
16:08
@TonyTheLion Or maybe I just suck at it. But yeah, it’s far from painless for me
@Cicada such as?
Jekyll & Bootstrap
@Cicada they’re kind of the Boost of static websites
not really “useless”
I think they're just clutter
Matter of taste I suppose
sure, whatever. Just as Boost is clutter
@KonradRudolph for the bits I ever did, I found it quite painful too.
16:10
Uh. Whatevs.
Well the point is that doing all this manually works beautifully. Until.
It simply doesn’t scale
and these frameworks actually do alleviate quite a lot of pain]
> static website
> scaling
please make sense
It doesn't take much knowledge to make a theme that doesn't look bad
@Cicada everything grows and changes, static web designs do too
user142019
Yay variables work.
user142019
Well, up to twelve of them.
Ell
Ell
16:14
Heh
user142019
Let's see if I can write a machine code target for this.
why not just use LLVM ^^
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Because LLVM no link. :(
@Cicada I do agree though, for most purposes Bootstrap isn’t terribly helpful … maybe I should have gone with a simple reset stylesheet and ignore the rest
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Aaaand I want to learn this shit anyway.
16:15
I'd really recommend fixing that problem first
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int x, y, z;
x = 42 * 2;
y = x * 3;
z = y * 18;
return z;
user142019
This code basically compiles except from the equivalent IR data structure instead of C.
@DeadMG I took a look at his problem, and it indeed doesn't link, because there are missing exports in the libs.
it functioned quite correctly for me.
@DeadMG I have no idea how he compiled his LLVM
But he is missing llvm::SmallVectorBase::grow_pod
user142019
16:17
$ mkdir build
$ cd build
$ cmake -G 'MSYS Makefiles' ..
$ make
he probably did something dumb like try to link to MinGW-built LLVM from VS,
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@DeadMG Yes. :|
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lol xd
And what's wrong with that
@Zoidberg They have completely different name mangling schemes.
it'll never link.
user142019
16:18
OH LOL
MinGW might be able to produce something compatible if you ask it nicely
but it defaults to Itanium ABI.
not Microsoft
user142019
Well then I'll use VS to compile it again in a few hours after I have shat and eaten.
lol, Itanium
user142019
Hope it works. Thanks.
Xeo
Xeo
16:19
Gawd, I shouldn't have looked at std-proposals... so many nutjobs there...
user142019
Hmm wait.
user142019
I'll start the compilation now and eat in the meantime.
Your exports purely lack that method
No matter the mangling
more likely the linker just stopped trying after that one method
and mangling does surely matter muchly
16:20
I dumped them
There's no such method
what version of MinGW?
user142019
What is MinGW called?
user142019
gcc?
uh, g++
i686-dw2-w64-mingw32-g++
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16:22
sh.exe"-3.1$ g++ -v
Using built-in specs.
COLLECT_GCC=c:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell Platform\2012.4.0.0\mingw\bin\g++.exe
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=c:/program files (x86)/haskell platform/2012.4.0.0/mingw/bin/../libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.5.2/lto-wrappe
r.exe
Target: mingw32
Configured with: ../gcc-4.5.2/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --disable-sjlj-exceptions --wi
th-dwarf2 --enable-shared --enable-libgomp --disable-win32-registry --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-version-specific-r
user142019
Meh.
lol
user142019
I have two installations of MinGW. T_T
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If only LLVM were written in Haskell.
Xeo
Xeo
Mmm... what was rubenvb's site for MinGW again?
16:24
dunno
actually
it's SourceForge somewhere
the Qt website has a linky to it
Xeo
Xeo
Time to google with my shitty connection...
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lol
damn
I spent the last week fixing up the plumbing for my Wide prototype
it just wasn't the bit I needed to work on :(
Ell
Ell
Is .DLL & .lib vs .so & .a windows vs linux or vs vs gcc?
user142019
lol
user142019
16:28
My assembly generator generates a lot of mov rbx, rbx instructions.
@Ell VS vs GCC, give or take.
Xeo
Xeo
Woot, 1h to download 30mb... bwahahahaha
user142019
For *= expressions.
but Clang produces GCC-compatible files.
@Ell They're equivalent in functionality
And .lib and .a are nearly equivalent in format
Xeo
Xeo
16:29
Yeah, I don't think I'll download MinGW today...
user142019
lol
get yourself J Richter book and read it then we discuss this point. — Boppity Bop 2 mins ago
Whatthefuck
user142019
I read "go fuck yourself J Richter book and read it then we discuss this point."
That's pretty much what he says
Andrew I need to have all the steps in plane view to see how this answers the question. Your answer is like - when people die if struck by a lightning - when they are dead. — Boppity Bop 3 mins ago
do you guys use or ?
Xeo
Xeo
16:32
no
@user1857 we use
Xeo
Xeo
@user1857 Error: User 'Abys' not in room.
Oh hey @n2liquid, long time no see.
@Xeo, whoa, you remember me; I didn't expect that, long time no see
Been busy with PHP horror stories
Xeo
Xeo
16:35
I definitly remember the avatar. :P
@n2liquid probably it's because of the avatar.
Ah, hahaha :P
It's a friend of mine's drawing
user784668
@Zoidberg use llvm
Xeo
Xeo
I also remember you inviting me to some game project.
@Xeo, yeah, I'm giving games some rest and (trying) to focus on other software projects
16:39
my god, less.js is a pile of steaming crap
bad mood today, Konrad?
So, you haven't been into gamedev during my absence? :)
Xeo
Xeo
Gaaaah, why the fuck does imgur need to have a fucking gallery on the main page...
@Cicada Oooh yes. I try to not reinvent the wheel and use as many existing parts as possible but I run into bugs and stale features wherever I go.
Xeo
Xeo
@n2liquid I'm actually working in gamedev now. :3
16:40
@Xeo, waw, fur real? Professionally or personally?
@Cicada For instance, Less allows string interpolation for variables; @foo: "foo"; @bar: "@{foo}bar";
@Fanael He's trying.
Xeo
Xeo
Professionally.
Can we know where?
… but I cannot use this in @import directives, i.e. @import "@{foo}bar"; won’t work, for no good reason whatsoever
Xeo
Xeo
16:41
Funatics Software
Checking
@KonradRudolph What is the end goal?
@Cicada I just want to import a bunch of modules which are in a different path which is quite long and I don’t want to repeat that long path for each import
I meant, the end goal
Looks like fun, so much exception-less C++ lately? Or more scripting stuff?
16:43
CSS
Making a website?
The thing is, there’s simply no good reason why this doesn’t work. less.js is simply a huge bundle of dirty hacks
@Cicada No, a console application actually
@KonradRudolph Haha, I've bumped into that issue recently. You can't use variables on the import, eh
@KonradRudolph Like anything ending with .js
@Cicada Well I thought we had transcended this state ~3 years ago. Guess not.
16:44
It's slowly getting better
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Xeo
@KonradRudolph #define! .. ohwait.
Somebody actually submitted a patch for this particular feature but (1) it heaps more hacks upon hacks, and (2) it doesn’t actually work properly, and is completely incomprehensible
~JavaScript~
In fact, there’s a previous patch for this feature, but that required changes to the public API of less.js in big ways. What the fuck? Why does this change the API? It’s purely an implementation detail!
Yeah I'm reading the pull request
16:47
… it also required > 800 changes to 14 files
what the hell
Well I think if you stated your intent more clearly I could (maybe) help you better
Another thing, error reporting in less.js is simply sublime. It essentially says “Duuuuh. Me no want compile file. waaa!” … on that level of usefulness
@Cicada Are you a less.js maintainer?
@KonradRudolph Oh Konrad, you're even more whiny than me today. You are regressing too :)
dat moment when lol
@KonradRudolph I'm not. A console application you say?
16:49
@Cicada … your sarcasm meter must be broken
user142019
LESS is awesome.
@Zoidberg The language? Yes. The implementation? WAT NO!
user142019
@KonradRudolph I had a doubt, actually. But I've never seen you use sarcasm so I assumed you were just nuts. Sowhatthefuck are you trying to do.
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16:50
@KonradRudolph what about Sass.
> But I've never seen you use sarcasm
ಠ_ಠ
Did that hurt
I hope it did
@Zoidberg Less is really way superior. SASS is dead, isn’t it?
user784668
using sarcasm = int;
user142019
Don't know.
user142019
16:51
I use Sass and LESS often enough.
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I use Sass in Rails apps because it's the default. :P
I've never heard of LESS or Sass
@Cicada Sigh. I’m just trying to develop a website. Static. Relatively simple design. But I do not want to re-invent the wheel, and I’m going to need quite a lot of elements that are already properly styled in Bootstrap
@KonradRudolph Any reason why you're not using github pages
user142019
@DeadMG they're CSS++.
16:52
@Cicada I am, in fact
@Zoidberg Oh, pointlessly dynamic web shit.
@KonradRudolph Go ahead and reinvent the wheel. Seriously, those CSS++ things have a lot of potential, but a lot of it is just wasted...
I will reinvent it someday if you don't today :P
user142019
Just use the C preprocessor on CSS and you have constants.
user142019
Now only functions. :P
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16:54
PHP!
NO
NONONONO
@Zoidberg mind. blown.
But I need to use LESS since I’m extending customising Bootstrap, see above
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#define BORDER_RADIUS(x) -webkit-border-radius: x; -moz-border-radius: x

foo {
    BORDER_RADIUS(4px);
}
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Problem is #my-id selectors. :P
user142019
Oh well use classes instead problem solved.
user784668
16:55
@Zoidberg Use m4.
This is escalating...
user142019
That's also a possibrulity.
you fool, it's a possibruity, not a possibrulity.
"use classes instead" gth
user142019
I never use IDs in CSS.
user142019
16:57
IDs are for CoffeeScript.
user142019
WHO THE FUCK IS STARRING EVERYTHING GTFO ALREADY
5
Why? It's fun.
I have starred only one thing, and it is the message in which you go batfuckingshit insane and declare "I never use IDs in CSS" like a fucking lunatic
user142019
No it's annoying.
Moderator, why the FUCK are you permanently clearing my completely valid star? How the fuck dare you?
16:58
I don't even know... what happens... when you get starred ;__;
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because there's no way to differentiate it from the starspam.
@DeadMG And that's the problem with indiscriminate censorship. I already said precisely which message I had starred, and pointed out that I had not starred anything else, thus setting it apart from the starspam.
I wasn't paying attention to what else was being said, only what else was being starred.
@DeadMG, perhaps moderators should instead group awesome related messages together, so that I can star the whole thing just once.
we can't do that
16:59
… I just realised that the @import string interpolation feature was discussed … A YEAR AGO!
@DeadMG I'm sorry to hear that. Perhaps try reading the chat that you moderate with such a heavy hand.
and since then … nothing.
also, I'm an owner, not a moderator.
user142019
Indeed, you own.

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