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9:00 PM
It's g++ -std=c++0x in 4.6.
They've added -std=c++11 in 4.7.
 
So to get C++11 I need to get gcc 4.7.. hmmm
 
but is c++0x == C++11 ?
that link appears to talk about C++0x
 
Yes.
C++0x became C++11 when it was officially released by ISO.
 
weird... how obvious that C++0x would be C++11
@CatPlusPlus Oh ok.
 
9:04 PM
It was a codename. Because it was expected to be released before 2010.
 
oh oh... makes more sense
So I'm assuming that I would need to get the latest GCC in order to use more and more stable C++11 features? Or is 4.6.1 good enough?
 
every true developer should know what movie that has sampled/used the same sound which appear between 2:48 and 2:51
good luck fellow programmers, I guess most of you will get it right
 
Doom3?
 
anyone remember the name of the stackexchange site that deals with algorithms like recursion and factorials, where basically you post a math algorithm and get answers?
it wasnt math stackexchange it was more geared toward programming
 
oh wait.. movie
 
9:10 PM
The Matrix
@JimNorton it's not this scene (it sounds like it's from the war against the machines in Zion), but it's the same weapon used:
 
Yes, every true developer should remember generic sound bits from a film from 10 years ago.
Makes sense.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm always deadly serious.
 
Evening
 
@ManofOneWay evening.
 
9:30 PM
@JimNorton 4.6.1 is pretty good. You still get a lot of the good stuff.
this handy chart
 
@DeadMG What are you up to?
 
@JimNorton ouch. sry, I was afk but I see the confusion has been lifted
 
not much
 
sbi
So I had this incredibly huge pan of prawns, with about the same amount of garlic, a minimal amount of bread, and a whole bottle of white wine. Consequently I am now relatively happy, quite ignorant, pretty drunk, and considerably happy. Please ignore me.
 
@refp Doctor Zhivago
@refp Also. In Italian?
 
sbi
9:36 PM
@CatPlusPlus Oh damn, The Matrix is a decade old already? Damn..
 
@sbi nice =D
 
@sehe hmm, are you answering "what movie is this sound from?"?
 
The first one is from 1999.
 
@refp What else
 
@sehe well, that question has already been answered
 
sbi
9:37 PM
@ManofOneWay You are referring to me, rather than to a specific message of mine. This makes your message ambiguous.,
 
@refp Oh. Tough luck
 
nobody seemed interested so I answered it myself, it's from The Matrix (the sound of some electric weapon), a scene where it can be heard was linked earlier
 
attention disorder span much?
@refp You must think I'm a moron
@ScottW All the time
 
@sehe <s>not really</s> nope, why would I?
wait, what.. flux
 
sbi
@refp Matrix, huh? "We need waffles. Lots of waffles."
 
9:39 PM
I guess I'll ahve to google
what the flux is this, I can't find nothing..
...
 
@sbi hmm... I have a bag a rather nice prawns in freeze that the SO is not keen on finishing... I might just have to indulge soon
 
is it a good or a bad sign when you open up your fridge and all you find is a bottle of champagne?
11:43 pm, time to clean this shit up
*plof*
 
@sbi Actually, it's 13 years. The bad sequels are like 9 years.
@refp I couldn't hear any such thing at the stated time. In fact, I couldn't really make out any distinct sounds at all.
 
sbi
@thecoshman Really, it must have been 60% prawns, and 40% garlic. Yum. Incredibly good. Plus that bottle of Pinot Blanc. I am deeply satisfied. To say the least.
 
@DeadMG listen to the youtube video as reference, it's the sound of the thing spewing electricity
 
9:46 PM
@refp I know. Did not hear said sound at all. All I heard between 2:48 and 2:51 was generic mechanical clinks and clanks.
 
sbi
@DeadMG Well, "13 years" does fit under "one decade"'s roof, in my book.
 
@DeadMG you didn't hear the same sound as at aprox 0:29 in the youtube video?
 
@refp Nope.
 
@DeadMG hum. I can hear it
 
@sbi its funny how good most meals are along side a bottle of wine :P
 
9:48 PM
the only thing the dubstep video sounds like from the Matrix is the scene where they are loading bullets onto the trucks to give to the APUs in the defence of Zion in the third film.
there is definitely no sound of that weapon
 
and I assume your did the prawns and garlic in a dish of hot oil
 
@DeadMG the sample is aprox at 2:48.8 (to put trust in my ears and vision), start listening earlier and you should hear it
 
@refp I did. Still nothing.
 
basically sounds like fireworks/rockets
 
@ScottW SQL? D:
 
9:49 PM
@DeadMG then I'm sad to say that you are either doing it wrong, because the sound of them loading the APUs is before and after the sound in question
 
@refp You went to all these lengths pointing out the obvious. You know, I can read :)
Jul 4 at 13:53, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@Abyx AFAIK, the ape, the bear, and I do so often.
 
sbi
@thecoshman It's funny how good a bottle of white wine is with some meals. :)
 
@RadekSlupik that makes perfect sense! That's why sequels suck!
 
I am going to write a web application.
 
@sehe point out.. what? have you been drinking this evening @sehe?
 
sbi
9:50 PM
@thecoshman very hot oil. I nearly set the kitchen afire.
 
@refp Tea, just now
 
@sbi indeed, I don't often go for white, but in the case of a blow out of sizzling garlic prawns, white wine sounds most apt
 
@refp Or you are hearing something which you think is the same but I do not.
 
@sehe I don't understand what you are talking about.
 
@DeadMG are you listening to the soundcloud link at 2:48, or something else?
 
9:51 PM
@DeadMG I'm not the only one hearing it, you are the only one (who claimed to have listened) who is not hearing it
 
@melak47 We both heard another sound from the Matrix at roughly that time.
 
@sbi I know the dish you are on about, is indeed great... might just have to do it my self for dinner some time this week... but what to go with it... maybe a wee bit of pasta with cherry tomatoes
 
@DeadMG as I said earlier it's not the same exact scene, but the sound of that "electrogun" is the same sample throughout the whole movie, just cut and twisted a bit
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yeah, my stomach agrees with red wine a lot more often than with white wine, but for moments like this I keep a bottle of decent white around in the fridge.
 
@refp So much was clear. My point is, did you really think 'Doctor Zhivago' was a serious reply? Did you really think I hadn't seen you became bored and answered it yourself? Did you think the oneboxed YT vid link was easy to miss?
You missed my troll. It echoed the Cat's starred message, by the way
 
9:52 PM
@DeadMG and as I wrote earlier:
38 mins ago, by refp
@JimNorton it's not this scene (it sounds like it's from the war against the machines in Zion), but it's the same weapon used:
 
nah
the electrogun has more of a modulating/pulsing sound
the given sound is more like a smooth firework
 
sbi
@thecoshman Lots and lots (400g) of fresh, green garlic, some onions, and two slices of toast accompanied 500g of prawns and a bottle of surprisingly decent Pinot Blanc.
 
@sbi though for the most part, I go for beer
 
@refp Perhaps it is time to admit, that both the nature of the riddle as well as the execution of the trivia poll in this room could best be forgotten and labeled 'unfortunate mishap'
 
@sehe @DeadMG is an unfortunate mishappen
 
9:54 PM
@refp cheap shot
 
sbi
@thecoshman I usually drink beer nowadays, too, bit for some meals (roast beef, fish etc.) it just has to be a decent wine.
 
Here as consolation:
in Sandbox, 1 hour ago, by sehe
23
Q: What Easter Eggs do the chat sites have?

MosheAccording to @balpha, he SE chat sites may have individual Easter eggs, depending on the site. If you find them, please post. Edit: Because it's so easy to make this stuff up, a screenshot as proof would be nice. (Although Photoshop ain't that hard either...)

 
@sbi oh wow! you went all out on that! that is a lot of prawns. Four options, either they are very cheap in Germany, you skimped and got really bad ones, this was one hell of a treat, or you have a good job :P
 
@DeadMG you better be trollin' right now, listen with your ears - put on headphones if that is required.
 
I am wearing headphones
 
9:55 PM
"He'll be the one wearing a helicopter"
 
@DeadMG then you are either trollin', wearing faulty headphones or having trouble with your hearing, sadly.
 
@sbi well, it's hardly going to be bad wine now is it. I've risked cheap wine too many times. It's a risk I just don't like to take any more. If I'm going to drink wine, I am going to have something worth drinking!
 
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ANALYSE THE SIGNAL DAMMIT
 
@refp Or alternatively, I have better hearing than you and can hear details in the original sound that you can not.
 
sbi
9:56 PM
@thecoshman It's #2, I guess. I paid <€10 for those prawns. I suppose there are better ones to buy, but I didn't look. Those where pacific and, suppsoedly, organic.
 
@DeadMG ... you are wrong.
 
what, your hearing is correct by default but mine is not?
 
He's wearing troll headphones. (Or been listening to Truls Mørk all day. Actually that's not unlikely)
 
@DeadMG the pulsating sound you were talking about can be heard in the dubstep sample
 
nope
 
9:57 PM
for one.
I hear it, and I heard it long before you said anything about it
 
I watched the YouTube video of the original source sound a couple times just to make sure I was remembering it correctly
 
@DeadMG I reckon, refp has outside confirmation that the sample was used in the Matrix
 
the source sound sounds like a guy being hit by lightning. the dubstep sound sounds like fireworks going off.
 
the source souds like fireworks, too
the pulsating can be heard towards the beginning, but is drowned out further along
 
@DeadMG you are not listening careful enough, also you have to take into account the effects added in the dubstep mix
 
9:59 PM
@sbi I don't know, seems fairly reasonable to me. Well, for frozen ones. But good frozen ones are just fine IMO, sort of like how frozen peas often get you fresher then fresh ones. I think I paid about 7 Euro for a 500g bag
 
@DeadMG of course it isn't the same exact sound, they are used in different context.. however; it's the same sample.
 
neh
 
Filing a bug on PHP The Right Way because it fails to redirect to http://www.python.org/ or http://www.ruby-lang.org as expected.
Oh god... that's gonna hurt
 
sbi
@thecoshman I dunno. With my then girlfriend (later second wife, and now divorced second wife), I have once meticulously ploughed through the wine shelf of one particular supermarket, looking for a decent red wine. It took us about four months to find some quite good Spanish tempranillo, which was only €3.29 back then. (it's €3.69 now, and turned only semi-dry, so I don't drink it anymore.) So decent wine, here in Germany, doesn't necessarily have to be expensive. .
 
@DeadMG it sure is..
 
Xeo
10:02 PM
@sehe Oh wow
 
Someone flagged "Trust me. I'm from the internet".
Fascinating
 
@sbi for the most part, tempranillo is my go to, something that puts up a fight if you get my drift. About 6 or 7 Euro is to be expected for a bottle of wine, you can cheaper bottles, down to about 4 maybe, but you are scrapping the barrel for the most part. Basically, I either have to really want a bottle of wine, or get when it is reduced
for comparison, a bottle of beer (not sure about the crappy carlsberg and stella sort of beers) are about 2 Euro
 
@DeadMG tmp.glork.org/matrix_sample.mp3 just because I got nothing better to do, turn up the volume, listen carefully and you should definitely hear 1) the start of the "gun" 2) the pulsation in the middle
heck put it on repeat and listen to it all night..
 
You should listen to the puppy's sexy British accent instead
 
sbi
@thecoshman Ouch. I knew German grocery prices are grossly cheap. As I said, I expect a decent bottle of Spanish red whine <€5. And <€4, if it's French stuff. A bottle of beer in the supermarket should be ~€.50, here.
 
10:07 PM
This random generic gun sound is really important I see.
 
@sehe speaking of "puppy" which isn't that far from "puggy", puggy is a pretty cool Belgian band. so if you'd like to listen to some quite nice night music, go a head and search for 'em
 
I like the logic
 
@CatPlusPlus your pal @DeadMG (I can only assume you thrive in each other company since both are you are of the same type) sure loves talking about it.
 
@sbi apparently moving stuff over the seas is an epic achievement.
 
sbi
@sehe dun.
 
10:08 PM
What?
 
@sbi whine...
 
O that's bound to be on porpoise :)
 
@refp Not done enough strong typed programming if you think anyone in this room is of the same type.
 
I have a thing for live acoustic sessions, madmoizelle is a great channel for just that.. so is BalconyTV
 
10:10 PM
and if I was at work with AHK to help me, I would flip a table so hard right now... in fact, I'm not sure there is table to flip big enough for this situation
 
@sehe haven't I?
 
Read it all. Then quip
 
sbi
@thecoshman I am drunk, boy. Lower your expectations! At least I am still communicating e a furrin language!
 
@sehe oh sorry, they share the same base
@sehe you keep editing your posts after I've replied to them, please learn to type faster! ;-)
 
@sbi or... you are so drunk you do not realise we are actually talking in German... either way, I have to take my victories where I can :P
 
10:10 PM
Oh hey, the puppy revealed his marvelous accent to me on the mumble. Sadly, I didn't quite catch what he said
@refp That's to teach you how to think twice before responding in the first place
 
sbi
@thecoshman I have a hard time telling whether I have read a specific book/article in English or in German at the bests of time.
 
@refp I sure hope so. We all share the same base. Puppies, Cats, Apes, Bears, Lions whatnot
 
std::asshole, since you are currently online there is a rather big risk that you have inherited from this type, filled with UB.
3
 
sbi
Well, anyway, I'm off to bed. G'night!
 
Xeo
@refp Mm, I'd rather say std::jerk
g'night bonobo
 
10:13 PM
@sbi sleep tight
 
@refp Hey. What did you say about late edits. This is star fraud. Edit it back, or we'll have to cancel the stars on that
 
@sehe I'm trying to follow your example, you are my hero, my savior, my nullptr in the dark.
 
ew. where's the emergency exit
 
@sehe *static_cast<int*> (0);, the best emergency exit there is
 
@refp Not quite. A lot for you too learn on Stack Overflow. The behaviour is undefined. Therefore, you can't even be sure it will exit at all. std::terminate and related are your goto solution !
 
10:17 PM
@sehe ... please, stop, thinking, I, know, nothing, about, c++, even, though, I, hope, you, are joking, with, the bullcrap, you, write, every, now, and, then.
please read the above with pauses in-between every word.
 
I love you too.
 
you are hurting my feelings..
even though I have none since I'm a bot, but still.. if I had feelings I would have been crying right now!
 
You know, there's always heroin ignore
 
any way, it's good night from him and... well, that's not going to work on by my self... night all
 
I don't ignore people, I leave that feature to people who'd like to ignore me
I would be such a hypocrite if I started ignoring people when I'm a true splinter in the eye my self
all by myseeelf
 
10:21 PM
Elon Musk about Fisker "The reason we don't have electric cars is not because of a lack of styling"
 
@sehe did you ignore me now? then I'm sad fo'real.
 
@refp ♪ Needs ♫ more unicode ♩♬
 
wiho, I'm not alone!
brb.
 
@refp Of course not. I did just find when I did before, it wasn't even as far back as I thought earlier:
Dec 29 '11 at 23:43, by sehe
<!-- puts refp on ignore -->
 
@sehe what did I deserve to end up on that list?
nevermind.. reading the log by myself
all by myself.
 
10:23 PM
@refp I dunno. Just trolling a little too hard. Also, that's not the one ^ either. That was just fun
 
at least I told you this:
Dec 29 '11 at 23:45, by refp
@sehe I'd recommend something a long those lines, yes.
hmm as you implied; that's not where you ignored me :/
@sehe even back then I didn't like you editing your posts..
Dec 30 '11 at 1:35, by refp
meh.. edits are evil
oh crap, I found a compiler bug earlier today.. (resulting in a segfault), but now I can't seem to remember what it was that triggered it
flux
 
 
404
 
Bloddy hell, too late to fix. Was kinda obvious though: chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/2235001/history
This one's a beauty. And still actual
Dec 24 '11 at 1:47, by refp
fuckshitfuck.. I spend time writing a very elaborate answer and what happens? OP FAGGOTÄRY.
Someone is on a PHP tweet streak:
How can you even be a PHP programmer without a sense of humor? You write PHP. That's hilarious.
 
lolz
 
10:40 PM
> Sometimes it's hard to tell whether you're trying to crack jokes or just being arrogant
 
> implying
 
Comedy gold.
 
@Cicada You're actually implying more than you're stating out loud right now
 
> implying even more
 
Also, I see he switched to mocking PHP community directly, too.
 
10:42 PM
Reminds me I have to post on meta.
"[Merge request] PHP room and Lounge<C++>"
 
That might be a good strategy, maybe they'll all cry and leave Internet.
@Cicada Oh you cruel woman. Think of the children.
 
Lounge<PHP++>
 
@Cicada By the way, I think it would be an interesting social experiment ;)
Like what happens when you merge the rooms and wait for a day or two
How the situation will develop
 
Blood everywhere.
 
Could be one result
Though I think other results are more probably ^^
 
10:58 PM
all that would happen is all the PHP developers would become afraid of me
 
@DeadMG I'm already afraid of you
 
Does anyone know whether G++ 4.7.1 supports lambdas with variadic arguments? And if not, whether G++ 4.8 will support it?
 
Mainly because of your avatar
If you had a different one, I wouldn't. But that dog just scares me
 
lol
she's actually quite cuddly
barks a lot at things she doesn't understand, though
 
@ElliottDarfink What. You can't. You can expand packs in the formal argument list, though, if that's what you mean. Not sure about compiler support for it
 
11:02 PM
@DeadMG You should take a better shot of her :)
 
@sehe Are you sure? I got the impression it will be implemented from the error message (using g++ 4.7.0) "sorry, unimplemented: converting lambda which uses ‘...’ to function pointer"
 
@DeadMG Is it wearing a knitted sweater?
 
Oh wait, you mean va_args, that's a whole 'nutter thing
Variadics is a template thing
 
@ManofOneWay What, the puppy in my gravatar?
 
11:06 PM
argh
 
@ElliottDarfink That's should probably work in the future. I'd defer to one of our standards wielding residents if one were in sight (/cc @JohannesSchaublitb)
 
I've almost calculated the block order now for liveness calculation, based on loop depth
 
@ManofOneWay And no, she's resting on my arm.
 
@DeadMG Cute socks
 
11:06 PM
not mine
 
Whew
 
@DeadMG Oh god. I don't know why, but photos of that dog really scare me. Those big eyes...
Does it eat humans, by chance?
 
puppydog eyes
 
@NikiC Only in their sleep.
 
that's OK, I'll rapidly disabuse you of the notion that the dog is smart enough to eat people
 
11:17 PM
That works
 
@DeadMG That's comforting. Now I can sleep at nights again ^^
 
@DeadMG That's a nice british accent
 
@ManofOneWay I have a spectacular accent.
that is hardly a high-quality recording, though
 
Of course you do, you're a genius
 
the point is, it's amazing that animal knows up from down
 
11:21 PM
Cute puppy!
 
I'll interpret it as "Even puppies love Windows!"
2
 
Anyway, time to sleep. Good night gents
 
@DeadMG it doesn't. luckily, the gravitational force (whereever it is seated) reminds her often enough
 
@NikiC hahaha
 
lulz
 
11:25 PM
light on that's not so good
 
Stop making me hungry with all your pictures of flesh.
 
hah
you would not get far attempting to eat my dog
she can run faster than Usain Bolt
 
lolz :P
I never ate dog meat, afaik.
I'm hungry now. We have sausages that consist for over 60% of fat.
 
@DeadMG Thanks for the subtitle, I couldn't quite make out what was shown
 
The rest is toilet paper.
 
11:28 PM
lol
 
The rest is salt and meat.
 
May 20 at 23:12, by Cicada
I like turtles.
Relevant
 
she's actually sleeping on top of the sofa up against the window
usually does it when my parents are out so she can look quickly for any approaching noise
 
Did it ever occur to you that she might just want out? Escape?
Sensible instincts, those
 
lol
that dog would never go without my mother for more than an hour or two voluntarily
 
11:30 PM
If I'd live with DeadMG in one house, I'd sure want to escape. 3:
 
izzama point
 
pizza point
 
that's OK
I prefer to live with myself and nobody else too
 
Of course pizzas are OK.
 
not for the last 18 months
 
11:32 PM
Why not?
 
did you miss the whole "horrible digestive sickness" thing?
 
Yes.
I'm not very active here anymore; I have a job now.
 
Ow. We missed the fun here:
in PHP, yesterday, by Cicada
@PeeHaa I think it's around chapter 17 when Harry grabs Snape or something.
 
(btw remove the olives from the pizza)
 
(puppy was there though)
 
11:34 PM
puppython
 
oh god. had to look thrice to see that one
laaaaaaaaaame
 
Fuck it. I'll eat satay-flavoured crisps.
I'm writing a wiki.
 
I'll take three.
 
@RadekSlupik Where do you work?
 
@NikiC at a software company.
 
11:39 PM
@RadekSlupik In Roosendaal? They have software companies there?
 
dang
 
Oh wait, did you mention Veldhoven
 
took a memory test online and scored 50%
 
@DeadMG dabbleshlaggle?
 
average is 20% but 50% still ain't high enough to qualify as "awesome"
 
11:40 PM
@DeadMG The test failed
@DeadMG linky? I'd be happy to make you feel better (iff < 10 minutes)
 
@sehe in Roosendaal, yes, but it's a small one. Around ten people work there, of which six are programmers.
 
@RadekSlupik Oooh. Linky?
 
for the simpler tests, I could parse structures from the images that made it relatively easy to recall
but the bigger ones, I couldn't get them down
 
11:42 PM
@RadekSlupik rrrmmpfff . web design . okay, reading
 
lolz :P
 
Wow. The shared hosting is rather pricey (putting it mildly). I just signed up for a VPS (nonshared) with 20Gb 25Gb of storage for 5Eur/month. That's also in NL... Finding link
 
The technologies list on the about page can be extended with Python since I work there.
I mainly work on in-house apps, but I can't give any more details.
 
aaaaargh
I hate JavaScript
 
Use Python or C++.
 
11:47 PM
The comparable offer from sednasoftware would cost ~30EUR. Wow
 
@sehe Yeah, V-Servers are incredibly cheap. Though last time I had a v-server I have been paying well over $100 for it every month. It did have some special requirements though to be fair.
@DeadMG Another seriously misunderstood language ^^
 
@NikiC Let's hope so. That's a hefty bill. I pay around 50 EUR for 3 VPS + Amazon {EC2|S3} charges together +
 
@NikiC Not about language, it's about functionality.
if you have a button which does not redirect but is all JS, then I can't middle click or back/forward it.
and if I open the page again, the state is not saved
it's most frustrating
 
@DeadMG Yes, inexperienced developers often create such a mess
 
@DeadMG use Safari. :p
 
11:49 PM
@DeadMG With the right implementation though it is not a problem ^^
 
/cue inb4 jquery et al.
 
@sehe Yeah, the main requirement was offshore hosting and not caring about what is hosted there. That's rather expensive ^^
 
@NikiC offshore? You mean it had to be outside the territorial waters?
 
@sehe Nah, just meaning that it is outside the "dangerous" countries ^^ Like the US (and most other)
 
Ell
offshore means on the sea?
 
11:52 PM
offshore means not onshore
 
offshore means "A place that does not co-operate with law enforcement requests from other countries (usually US and EU)".
so effectively, the large Western powers cannot gain access under any circumstances
 
That's a rather good definition
 
@NikiC ah. that limits the options. Indeed. So then 100$ is reasonable. I can only guess what the purpose was :) Obviously it was for storing large quantities of astronomical noise
 
@sehe That's quite BS.
as was accurately pointed out in some other place where that blog was referenced, it's hideously out of date
 
@DeadMG I know, I read the comments too. Still, nice quote - tongue in cheek
 
11:58 PM
the actual law that was passed requires the police to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you possessed the keys at the given time.
well, it's not a nice quote, it's plain wrong.
 
@DeadMG Those are the nicest. What's gone into you? Are you afraid someone might believe it?
 
Später.
 
@sehe No, I'm perfectly happy to bash my country for the billion stupid things it's done.
 
Trust me, people will believe it. I'm just rambling on here and having a good time. No need to fear for my sanity (it's beyond repair)
 
@sehe The fact that people will believe it is why linking it is wrong.
you're just spreading misinformation for your own lols
 
11:59 PM
@DeadMG Ah, so it's a chauvinist thing. I'm not even interested in what countries are involved. It's just the mechanism, of both laws and media behaviour
 

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