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1:00 AM
imagine the tension at build stage
 
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it built, surprisingly
 
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but built != working properly
 
@CatPlusPlus What major news outlet is?
 
@Telkitty dude, with your spelling skills I'm surprised anything built at all. In jest. Joking, hehe, not accusing you of anything.
 
@Chimera I've read that Al Jazeera is quite trustworthy.
 
1:02 AM
@StackedCrooked I've heard the Christian Science Monitor is pretty good also.
 
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@CaptainGiraffe it will build, if you misspell consistently
 
No need for sarcasm.
 
I don't follow news, so I don't care
The world could end and I wouldn't know
Or care
 
@StackedCrooked Not being sarcastic. I heard it really is pretty good.
 
Seriously, fuck the world
That asshole is ruining my life
 
1:04 AM
@Chimera Oh. Never really looked at it.
 
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@CatPlusPlus if the world ends you will know. How can you not noticing your PC not working?
 
Yeah, let's all enter into a suicide pact!
 
@CatPlusPlus You are getting darker by the day.
 
@Telkitty Presumably because I'll be dead
 
@CatPlusPlus What asshole?
 
1:04 AM
@Mysticial The world
Reading comprehension man
 
@CatPlusPlus have you tried the resynthesizer extension to gimp? there also a function like that in newer photoship
 
The world's an asshole?
 
i hate leeches and liars and loonies
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf What
 
1:05 AM
in short, L3
 
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I love everyone as long as they use my apps
 
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but most aren't
 
@Mysticial BTW, bought a new heatsink and installed it using thermal grease instead of tape, the cores run at around 60C now when maxed out by Folding at Home. That is MUCH better.
 
@CatPlusPlus i think could fix your photo in a snap. only problem is that it's apparently next to impossible to install for windows. so needs using gimp in lunix
 
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no <3 4 them
 
1:05 AM
Those bastards
 
@Chimera I usually trust the BBC.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Oh, that. Already done and forgotten.
 
@Chimera That's a big difference.
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I like the BBC as well.
@Mysticial Yeah, I think 60C is at least in the safe zone where I'm not baking my CPU.
 
1:07 AM
Most CPUs can get to 75 or something safely, and GPUs even higher
 
@Mysticial Stays at around 27-30C when idling just web browsing.
 
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I read news and I comment on local news website
 
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probably not a good idea
 
Now who said you need to be familiar with XYZ library to solve a problem :p stackoverflow.com/questions/13370774/…
 
Better to check your CPUs specs though
 
1:08 AM
Apparently people expect me to be good with Qt, even though I've never read about/used it as well.
 
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@chris whoever wrote XYZ libray?
 
What
I don't see Qt there anywhere
 
@CatPlusPlus, I know, but I've answered a few of those.
4 apparently
 
I've answered many questions just by Googling or reading the docs
 
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@DeadMG dunno why people call you puppy, for all I know the dog in your avatar could be 12 yo (70+ human age).
 
1:10 AM
For things I've never before seen
People asking questions on SO are usually: a) dumb b) lazy or c) both
 
Exactly. It makes me wonder: If I can do it with having no prior experience, surely the asker can, too.
 
Those who know what they're doing is like 1%
 
That's about right.
 
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@CatPlusPlus those who know wouldn't be asking would they?
 
Nobody knows everything
 
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1:12 AM
the worst would be those who confidently tell everyone else the wrong thing and making them believe it
 
Is there a tool for measuring angles more accurate than a protractor?
 
Like anyone using PHP
 
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@Crowz lazer
 
Laser protractor maybe
This isn't Home Improvement
 
Can I buy one of those?
No it's for programming, sort of.
 
1:13 AM
In a tool shop?
 
I'm currently working on an artist program
 
On Amazon?
 
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@CatPlusPlus PHP is not too bad, if I am drafting a web service I would use PHP. Only if I get enough traffic would I start thinking multithreaded C++
 
Wait, what, are you measuring angles on screen with a protractor
 
No just trying to figure something out
 
1:14 AM
That sounds ridiculous.
 
How to do it, I'm not exactly the abstract type
 
@Telkitty Both options are dumb as hell
 
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you have no idea what you are talking about
 
:laffo:
 
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I have done both
 
1:15 AM
@Telkitty relax.
 
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lol I am not relaxed? :p
 
It's Cat you're talking with :p
 
(They're really really dumb)
 
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Oo :x
 
From the strongly opinionated crew. Discussion is unlikely to produce agreement.
 
1:16 AM
Also define multithreaded
We already established that you don't even know C++
 
You don't know about multithreading?
 
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like 1 cat can play with 1 thread or 10 threads
 
I'd like to know how you're going to write a server in C++
@StackedCrooked ...
 
I once created a small highscore server in C++ using Poco::Net libraries.
 
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most trading servers are written in C++
 
1:17 AM
That's very irrelevant
 
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TCP/IP socket programming
 
No shit
(Irrelevant)
I want to know more about your multithreading
(Don't Google now)
 
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in your shell script you define the number of threads
 
@Telkitty She's about 1yo in the picture.
but dogs of that breed don't really grow up.
they just grow slightly lazier
 
1:19 AM
@Telkitty ...and?
Tell me more, I'm :allears:
 
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then spawn that many threads in your program
 
@CatPlusPlus The real questions would be more about what kind of server, how big of an audience you're serving, etc. It's pretty clear that (for one example) Google's main search engine is almost entirely C++, and I can't imagine what they'd need to handle their traffic if it was written in, say, Ruby. It's equally certain that it would be utterly silly to use C++ for a typical web site that rarely has more than one person on line at a time.
 
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thread pool
 
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sending receiving stuff
 
At least you didn't say 1 thread per connection
 
1:20 AM
This is like a painful oral exam.
 
But still a waste of time if you're not expecting very very very very very large amounts of traffic
 
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That's what I said ...
 
@JerryCoffin My web-compiler uses ruby at the server side :)
 
oh god
 
And even then it's trivial to scale things written in languages that are not C++
 
1:22 AM
stop putting these would-be smileys cat
 
Well, not trivial
 
they make you look like a tool
 
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@JerryCoffin they use C++? Thought google uses java
 
lol no
 
1:22 AM
You want me to include them on next line as images always?
 
@kbok would-be smileys?
 
@Telkitty They do use Java, but not for (at least most of) the search engine.
 
@StackedCrooked :allears: :laffo: etc.
 
1:23 AM
No, I'd just rather have you not remind me that forums have existed or still exist at all
 
"To send an array in your request, simply set the variable multiple times in the query URI: &foo=..&foo=.." POST you bastards .. POOOOOOOOST
 
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Amazon is using more java than C++ nowadays
 
Tim Post is pissed off.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh god :(
 
@kbok The best forums
 
1:24 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dat pun
 
Ogonek still does not support ASCII properly :(
But I am going to sleep now.
Good night.
 
cringe
 
twas good while it lasted
 
Anyway, as far as huge traffic goes, reddit is in Python
 
I'm going to call it a day too
see ya
 
1:26 AM
I need to do stupid things in MATLAB argh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes GET could be a valid choice even if the request contains a lot of data.
 
@kbok Later.
 
If you're going REST then verbs should correspond to actions
 
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@kbok cya
 
So if this only reads things, it should be GET
 
1:27 AM
@CatPlusPlus Well, at least you're using the tool for what it's best at! :-)
 
Simulink, to be precise
 
It's a stupid things tool.
 
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Many companies who used to use C++ are running away and using java/C# instead
 
Programming is not good for health
 
@Telkitty Most of the running away happened 5-10 years ago.
 
1:29 AM
@Telkitty Well that's new!
 
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and they aren't coming back :'(
 
I wouldn't either
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, this just gets better all the time (as in: been there, done that, hated every minute of it...)
 
I think C++ is becoming a little more popular again.
 
For some inexplicable reason
 
1:30 AM
@Telkitty Well, actually some are. Microsoft, for one obvious example, did their best to run away from C++, to the point they were working on writing an entire OS in managed code. Now C++ is moving back to front and center.
 
What MS Research does doesn't necessarily translate to MS plans for future.
 
@CatPlusPlus Actually, I think there are a number of highly explicable reasons. First and foremost, that they've figured out that regardless of language, programming isn't easy.
 
@JerryCoffin And not just a shitty trivial OS, but a real OS.
 
Programming eats your soul
 
first I'd have to have a soul
 
1:33 AM
Brain then whatever
It's a saying
It doesn't have to make sense
I'm going to bed, too. Here's for another shitty day full of classes and other boring stuff
 
@CatPlusPlus There's quite a bit more than just the research OS. From what Herb has said, I believe a lot of the reason XP stayed "current" for so long was that they were working on rewriting major portions in managed code, with a plan to move it all there eventually. They only started work on Vista when that project fell through.
 
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More like companies like to hire software developers who are good at C++ then get them to do java/C#/PHP etc
 
@CatPlusPlus G'night.
 
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@CatPlusPlus bye puss
 
haha
my request for a document number got eaten by the spam filter on the library working group's email.
hmmm
to add STL to my CV? It's so incorrect but so keywordy
 
user1357851
1:38 AM
why do you need to be so specific?
 
because people grep CVs.
 
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head hunters have no idea what STL is, most likely
 
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they go for keywords
 
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like C++ multithread
 
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java
 
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1:39 AM
you need to go pass them first
 
adlkfjadklf;lk3495809f8S)(D8)(*)(*()**@@*& NO CARRIER
 
?
slow clap
 
Never used a telephone line modem before?
 
sure thing
 
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software development is stupid
 
user1357851
1:48 AM
basic functionalities have been re-written so many times
 
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each in house development team writes it's own version of something very fundamental
 
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so we have thousands copies of the code doing pretty much the same thing floating around .
 
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and there are thousands and thousands of those kind of code
 
hmmm
my parent commit
"Removed Find(src, val, func) overload. It was the silly."
first new commit in four months
 
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human are stupid
 
1:59 AM
working on isocpp has at least given me some perspective on my previously shitty specification for Wide.
 
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birds in the neighbourhood work for 3 hours a day, raise babies and still find time to sing and play
 
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people work 8 hours a day
 
birds work 24 hours a day.
 
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dumbass people
 
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they do not
 
2:01 AM
people work at the maximum rate at which their minds and bodies can sustain, which is 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.
 
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when they work, they eat
 
Dumbass? I think my life is more comfortable than that of a bird.
 
why work, and therefore earn, less than my maximum?
 
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birds have higher tolerance
 
a bird is hardly capable of recognizing the idea of comfort.
 
user1357851
2:04 AM
you assume
 
you don't
Good night all
 
@sehe G'night
 
fuck
I have got to sleep
but I have also got to finish my fucking CV.
I hate CVs, I hate cover letters, and I hate recruiters.
 
@DeadMG agreed :-)
 
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@sehe laterz
 
user1357851
2:15 AM
@DeadMG trust me you could not have had 'more fun' with recruiters than I did
 
if you had a finite amount, then I believe it is strictly possible.
ok
 
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Is the dog in your avatar your dog?
 
yep
 
@DeadMG I believe that's spelled "yap".
 
2:20 AM
Ah, my one-line make_unique is broken. Turns out I can't just use braces gratuitously for initialization...
 
@Borgleader No.
the dog is the same breed, but that's about it.
for one, that puppy looks about 20 months younger than my dog.
 
@DeadMG D'awwwww, tired after running away from the bowl of food?
 
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so cute <3
 
@Borgleader Naw
she's wrapped in the towel because she's been out for a walk somewhere rather wet
we leave the towel on the radiator
 
Random image to brighten the night:
 
2:36 AM
@KerrekSB Hahahaha that made my day
 
the off course yoda image was way better
 
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@DeadMG you living in apartment or house? (your puppy gets running around or not).
 
@DeadMG Scrap the work experience
 
been thinking that.
but I appear to have crashed Word
 
2:46 AM
Only relevant experience should be listed, I think.
 
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finally my dumbass cat pic app passed window certification
 
It might be nice to have a keyworded list of skills, like "C++, Java, MS Office, Photoshop".
 
the person I'm dealing with wanted them listed in commercial years experience
but none of them are any commercial experience
 
@Telkitty dumbass app or dumbass cats? Hyphens can be live-savers sometimes.
 
whatever
 
user1357851
2:48 AM
dumbass app with dumbass cats
 
I'mma email her and say "This is what I got, if you don't like it, I'mma send it to a pro."
 
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@DeadMG apply for graduate positions in that case?
 
is what I'm doing
but strictly, I didn't actually graduate...
 
@DeadMG You're looking for a job? I thought you worked at Oracle...
 
I'm not sure if that's going to pan out.
 
2:52 AM
Java :P
 
well
 
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why would someone asking you how many years commercial experience you have in certain things when you appy for graduate position
 
more relevantly, there's some unspecified trouble with the course they want me to take
and I can't work there without studying
well, I can, but not for anywhere near enough money to be worth it
right
now I'm going to sleep
good night
 
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@DeadMG 99
 
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once I told someone sweet dreams but mistyped
 
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2:57 AM
it came out sweat dreams :x
 
3:13 AM
@Telkitty i think you meant sweet?
 
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@Borgleader yeah
 
3:57 AM
So we meet again
 
4:10 AM
lol @ the flags...
 
Have anyone tried using Office 2013? For me, it's just 2010 with a metroey UI.
 
user1357851
4:26 AM
<--baking meat in peas
 
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spice, salt & soy sauce
 
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<3
 
6 hours ago, by Mooing Duck
http://blog.rfw.name/2012/11/12/brainfuck_with_templates.html
 
fuck... I'm that late...
 
4:42 AM
How can one program GPUs?
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Not only that, building a template-brainfuck-compiler is old
There was an article some years ago already.
 
damn...
 
@Xeo I don't think I've exposed to you my plans to write a std::tuple<int, std::nullptr_t> t = shuffle(std::make_tuple(nullptr, 42)); feature?
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Nope?
 
4:57 AM
Ah well. I actually wrote it around the same time as the shuffling proof-of-concepts.
I kinda want a easy way to do t = u for mismatched tuples but I'm not super sure on how to proceed.
 

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