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Xeo
10:00 PM
quietly shelves the project again another time, another time!
A bit too late to try and figure it all out again today.
 
Ell
I have trouble with that on occasion
I just write a TODO file
 
Xeo
This is weird. Whenever I try to connect to Perforce through our work VPN for the first time after connecting the VPN, it's not able to. Immediately after that, it is.
 
ugh, I hate Perforce
 
Xeo
It's alright
 
@Brian install Git.
@Mysticial screenshot
 
10:12 PM
@PolymorphicPotato I work at Google :/
 
As they say in Dutch: "Paarlen voor de zwijnen"
 
@PolymorphicPotato I can't while I'm work, I can do it later though.
@Brian Use git5.
 
screenshot
eenshot
shot
cumshot
cumslot
cumslut
 
@Mysticial lol I do
 
I don't think you're banned anymore
 
10:15 PM
I started with perforce with no other choice because of the project. Then when I changed projects, I got to use whatever I wanted, (g)p4/citc, or git5.
 
The goal is to query value1 and remove it from the json. Not getting all the values from the array — user3842408 1 min ago
ARG. Kill me now. Instead. Kill the OP. Nah.
 
Though either way, you still need to know enough about perforce since git5 is just a stupid skin on top of it.
 
@Mysticial Hmm, I'm not sure whether the existence of [censored] is publicly known. So we should probably go back and censor all of our messages.
 
@Mysticial lol
 
And yes, exactly, it doesn't totally shield you from Perforce.
 
10:16 PM
@PolymorphicPotato reading too many tweets
 
@Brian It's not really a secret. Just the name of (yet another) Google tool.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Isn't there perforce-git?
 
There's perfarce for Mercurial
 
@Xeo lol, never heard of it.
 
10:25 PM
Admittedly, I'm starting to miss all the Google dev tools.
 
user3010322
@Xeo Why wasn't that in existence when I was doing my Xbox internship?
 
user3010322
I had to evaluate Perforce <-> VS intergration stuff.
 
user3010322
@PolymorphicPotato You changed names again?
 
user3010322
.... And accounts, again?
 
I got banned what else can I do.
 
user3010322
10:29 PM
For doing what?
 
user3010322
Wut.
 
2 hours ago, by Polymorphic Potato
For posting a video featuring everyday life in Japan.
 
@sehe turns out I completely misjudged the question. It was worded confusingly I think
 
You're replying to yourself??
 
@PolymorphicPotato Cup "P" was repulsive
 
10:30 PM
:P
 
@Brian What does it look like :)
@Brian I think it's fair that I correct myself if I vent Bartek-mode. And since no-one engaged, I'll just link to my own message.
 
Bartender.
Love me bartender.
 
user3010322
I can't find the video.
 
user3010322
Oh well.
 
user3010322
Also, my teacher posted a really long heartfelt note about how he doesn't think he likes being a Professor.
 
10:35 PM
@PolymorphicPotato Love me bartender, love me beer
 
user3010322
> Although I constantly grumbled throughout the semester that I should never have volunteered for such time-consuming job as teaching
 
user3010322
This is a long note.
 
That doesn't seem overly long
 
user3010322
Well, the whole thing is way longer.
 
Ah.
 
user3010322
10:36 PM
... Maybe I can sneak in and steal his job. >:D
 
user3010322
ARRAYS WILL NO LONGER BE POINTERS.
 
I should write a bot in COBOL which tweets random snippets of COBOL code every quarter.
 
Well I hope he gets paid for it
 
for serious business-oriented business purposes.
 
Xeo
@PolymorphicPotato Call it COBOL_Today
 
10:37 PM
COBOL is really nice.
 
To your mom
 
Ell
I missed bar<c++>
Is lrio in this room now?
 
no
that breast video was lame
 
we missed bad pun friday
 
@Ell it still exists, I think
@Rapptz very
Jun 14 '12 at 21:17, by Man of One Way
@RMartinhoFernandes Lame Pun Friday?
@PolymorphicPotato By some years, it seems
 
10:42 PM
OK.
 
ACK.
I'm going to find my bed. 00:42am good time
 
@sehe good night.
 
user3010322
@sehe Sleep well!
 
@PolymorphicPotato DISPLAY 'COBOL IS DESPICABLE' AFTER ADVANCING 1 LINES.
3
 
user562566
10:56 PM
@MarcoA. comments that are entirely useless
 
user3010322
I'm not sure if this is how I should do look-ahead...
 
damn I feel like another beer but I shouldn't
 
@AndyProwl You at least look a little like a beer, keeping your head visible that way.
@ThePhD Right now you seem to be working at getting us to do speculative lookahead.
 
user3010322
@AndyProwl Do it.
 
if I look like a beer it makes sense that I feel like one right
 
user3010322
11:01 PM
@JerryCoffin I don't know what you mean. D:
 
user3010322
@AndyProwl You... look like a beer?
 
1 min ago, by Jerry Coffin
@AndyProwl You at least look a little like a beer, keeping your head visible that way.
 
@ThePhD you're just trying to get us to do your homework. We got you figured out
 
user3010322
@nick But my exams are done.
 
user3010322
Well, I lied.
 
user3010322
11:04 PM
I have one more exam.
 
@ThePhD You made it look like you were going to post something about how you were doing lookahead, but then you didn't, leaving looking ahead to it, but not finding anything.
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Welcome home, honeybunches. ♥
 
user3010322
Tomorrow.
 
user3010322
@JerryCoffin I actually was going to ask you a question directly, but then I threw it out because I didn't feel like it was worth asking and I should just man up and figure it out myself.
 
@ThePhD Then the doctor will be giving you just one more exam, but you may not enjoy it quite so much...
 
11:09 PM
@ThePhD <3
 
Ell
11:21 PM
I might buy breaking bad all seasons
 
DSTrajectoryPoint()
    {
        m_PointTime = 0;
        m_up_StateValue = nullptr;
    }
How can anyone like indenting functions this way?
it's horrible (source)
 
@AndyProwl Some people will use any excuse they can find to add more indentation--and when they can't find an excuse, they invent one.
 
MS's Standard Library also follows it IIRC
 
They indent one
Missed oppordenity
 
indent-revealing code
 
Xeo
11:25 PM
@AndyProwl Similar. They don't do the second indent.
 
@Xeo oh, yeah
that's even uglier
 
Xeo
Blame Dinkumware
 
Dinkelberg....
 
I really can't see the benefit
 
Xeo
 
11:27 PM
 
@Xeo I think I'd rather blame you. Of course, it isn't accurate, but it might make you squirm a little anyway...
 
Xeo
Nope, I'm blame-immune today.
blamune.
 
it's all your fault
 
Xeo
It's my fault that our designer gets to configure our progress / unlock tree as an actual tree in UE, yes.
And not as a shitty excel table that is wholly unsuitable to represent a tree.
I'm rather proud of that :<
My boss doesn't quite seem to think so.
I don't think he quite understood how I meant it, though.
 
bosses
let's not think about them
actually I want a cool boss like robot's
 
Xeo
11:32 PM
nah, mine is actually quite interested in good coding practice and modern C++
 
@AndyProwl i want robot as my boss
 
oh yeah that would do too
 
dont get me wrong, my current boss is pretty cool
but, he's not @R.MartinhoFernandes <3
 
let's all start working for robot
 
@Borgleader I want me as my boss (except that ends up with my wife as my boss...)
 
11:35 PM
"Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife." - Groucho Marx
not related, just came to mind
 
@AndyProwl "The chains of marriage are so heavy, it takes at least two to carry them--and often three or more." (probably paraphrased, but Ambrose Bierce).
 
:)
void MyModel::timerHit()
{
    //we identify the top left cell
    QModelIndex topLeft = createIndex(0,0);
    //emit a signal to make the view reread identified data
    emit dataChanged(topLeft, topLeft);
}
Dahell is that emit thing? (Qt, from here)
 
@AndyProwl Emits a signal.
 
yeah, I got that part
but is it a macro?
 
Xeo
meta compiler changes it to a function call, IIRC?
 
11:39 PM
@AndyProwl I don't recall the implementation--might be part of what's handled by MOC.
 
@Xeo wait what? meta compiler?
 
Xeo
moc - meta object compiler for Qt
 
@AndyProwl Yes.
 
that Qt has its own pre-compiler?
oh
ew
 
Xeo
If you want "proper" reflection, it's the best you can do vOv
UE does it too
And it's annoying as fuck at times
 
11:40 PM
I didn't figure it out
I've created a project with VS and haven't set up any pre-build step or something
 
Xeo
There's one nice thing though: enum names without manual mappings. :D
 
meh, those things rarely bother me
 
Xeo
I find we need those surprisingly often
 
@Xeo Should really be part of the base language, IMO.
 
@Xeo Like mapping strings to values and the other way around?
 
Xeo
11:42 PM
@Griwes values to strings in this case, yes. I think the other way around works too.
 
yeah but my enums are usually small enough and writing a function with a switch statement isn't that time-consuming
but I do understand it can be a convenient feature
 
@Xeo That's not terribly hard to do with preprocessor really (just needs some tiny bits of storage at runtime; I don't think I saw a solution that doesn't).
 
what I don't get is how is the pre-compiler invoked if I haven't set up anything special
 
Xeo
@Griwes It isn't - X macros and all that
However, annoying to set up.
 
@AndyProwl Convenient, and the code involved is obvious enough that there's no reason it can't be handled automatically.
@AndyProwl Did you use their wizard to create the project?
 
11:44 PM
@Xeo With my wrapper I just write reflected_enum(name, values...); instead of enum class name { values... };. Not really annoying this way. :P
I think someone here had another crazy solution, using Boost.PP or some craziness like that.
 
Xeo
annoying in that it doesn't look like a normal enum
 
@JerryCoffin Honestly, I don't remember :D I did it like a month ago, I got to display some stuff but nothing elaborate much. I tried to fiddle with a tree view and didn't get how it worked, but had no time to read the tutorial. Now I have time to go through the tutorial and I've been hit by this emit thing
 
@Xeo Hah.
 
I also wonder why it is necessary at all. Boost.signals should cover this just fine
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl it "looks nicer"
also, again reflection stuff
 
11:46 PM
it doesn't look nicer to me
 
@AndyProwl Qt had/used signals before Boost did. It took a while (and two iterations of Boost Signals) to get to the point that it was usable and thread safe.
 
I also don't see the reflection stuff involved in firing a signal but that's just me having no idea what's going on here - ignorance++
@JerryCoffin ah, so historical reasons
 
Boost.Signals is actually inspired by Qt.
lol
 
@AndyProwl Maybe--offhand I'm not sure Boost Signals provides everything that Qt signals do, even yet.
 
@JerryCoffin I don't know Qt signals so I can't tell, but Boost Signals are quite complete
there's aggregation, ordering, blocking/resuming, automatic connection management, etc.
 
11:52 PM
@AndyProwl Yeah, I've used both, but not enough at close enough to the same time to really say if Boost is missing anything. I'm not really sure it is, but I have kind of an uneasy feeling at the back of my mind saying there may well be, and I just can't remember what it is right now.
 
@vsoftco: The behavior is not undefined in this case, only indeterminate. Calls to operator [] are just regular function calls and they cannot interleave (see paragraph 1.9/15) — Andy Prowl 21 secs ago
^ @Jerry is this accurate?
I remember having a discussion with you about this and IIRC this is why I gathered at the time
 
gotta admit that's pretty weird
 
@AndyProwl Looks right to me.
 
oh it's mutating
disgusting
 
Xeo
Boost.Signals needs this :<
 
user3010322
11:55 PM
You can write compile time string <-> value in C++14.
 
user3010322
Without constexpr.
 
@Rapptz Quite.
 
user3010322
But the syntax is ugly.
 
@Rapptz Yeah. OTOH it's just a C++ test this guy was trying to understand. It's not his code
@Xeo Oh yeah
It's quite useful
 
Xeo
Well, it's just a convenience thing
 
user3010322
11:57 PM
@Xeo I want something that optionally allows you to pass a list of classes that are allowed to call the operator() function.
 
Xeo
and looks nicer!
@ThePhD make it pass-key
 
@AndyProwl If the behaviour happened with const it'd be really weird to me.
 
Ell
Static reflection would be nice
 
user3010322
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Like somehow out << "Stuff " << " Other"; would print " OtherStuff"
 
user3010322
11:58 PM
God I can't fucking wait for static reflection.
 
user3010322
That will just throw out so much macro cruft.
 
user3010322
And make things maximally efficient too.
 
Ell
Yh
 
user3010322
Then you just wrap up the bits you want to.
 
@Xeo I've thought for a while that Signals and ASIO should really be combined (a network layer on top of a general purpose signals library).
 
user3010322
11:59 PM
And connect it to whatever virtual machine you want to.
 
user3010322
IMHO static reflection and lifting-lambdas are the 2 things that'll make C++ feature-complete for me.
 
user3010322
The rest will be library fuckery.
 

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