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7:00 PM
I see
 
@Xeo > Invest in the future
 
Huh, so that video/talk about the ranges, at the end he's on about maybe move std to std::v1 and then reuse std as a new range based library... why not just leave std as std and have a new standardfor a range based standard library. Or are we really that scared about typing five more characters (because you suck at suing auto completion)
 
lol COBOL has a tr operator like Perl.
Except it's written as INSPECT x CONVERTING "abc" TO "def".
y u no library feature
 
@AlexM. "Can I have olives, wafted near my pizza please, and can you rub a garlic on your hands first."
 
7:10 PM
garlic rubbed on toasted bread is amazing
 
@marc the connection "bolted". Apparently it's that new and there's so much grease that it's easy to slip it out when switching gears
 
following the CS GO reddit is a nice experience
 
@PolymorphicPotato I did just that. Only, first fietsenmaker said "take a hike".
"ermagad, no I'll have to open the chain case"
 
My fietsenmaker is om the hoek.
 
if you ignore the 13 year olds and all that but sometimes you drop on interesting stories
 
7:14 PM
Literally om the hoek.
You go om the hoek and there he is.
 
like this 62 year old player going through a heart surgery reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/36u6rw/…
and the reaction of the community to him
 
Well, since I became fed up I opened that case myself and found I didn't know how to "reattach" it, but it was clearly not broken. So I searched again and found another fietsenmaker. One that wasn't too lazy to be bothered.
He showed me how to do it (of course I can't do it next time... but at least I know what to try :))
@PolymorphicPotato Mijnes ook
 
@marc It's apparently a Shimano "steps" (7-gear)
I gave the fietsenmaker in Delft €5 and he gave me a better screwdriver :)
I think I'm gonna tweet that people should probably not go to "de Wolf" in Delft if they needed a quick repair. Lazy bums.
He didn't even want to look at it (5 whole minutes, geez) and also blamed me :)
He may be right that I should take care while it's still so greasy, but come on, don't make it sound like you're blaming the customer, and at the same time say "Fuck you, go back to your dealer. Have fun cycling in 1st gear"
@Columbo Mind if I steal this one?
 
Alright, I should extend my hangman implementation with lives and procedures.
 
7:21 PM
Whats's up hottie, I saw you on a dating site sometime last week, i got sum freakypix for you..

txt my numbr real quick its 914 253 1068.

Im just a 24 year old gal. Im looking to meet new people and maybe hookup.
txt me when u get a min please.
 
> gal
Instant turn off
You can keep her
 
@sehe you mean that you can't get the "pin" in the foreground of the picture back in?
 
Besides. The babysitter is younger.
@marc Indeed. Well, now it's back :)
I didn't feel confident tampering with that (I was afraid the wire would get wedged/lodged and I would be in worse shape)
 
@sehe Send me a F#ckFriends request so we can hook up My usename is AnnaGSpot08 My profile is here. SPEAK SOON
(Didn't click the link, inb4 nsfw)
 
how can one have sex with a total stranger like that
how do hookers even work
I don't even
 
7:25 PM
@thecoshman We'll "five more characters" is exactly why so much badness is around (and why using namespace std; is used so much)
 
@sehe it gets even scarier once you remove the top plate of the asembly (hint: don't). then you get a nice little puzzle :) glad you fixed it.
 
@Columbo don't post a clickable link like that then
 
@ScarletAmaranth Wait, your name is Scarlet?
 
@Columbo huh?
 
7:30 PM
scarlet is a colour; amaranth if a flower; also img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130628213206/finalfantasy/images/…
 
nevermind
 
@Columbo very NSFW :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth I thought your name reminded me of sth
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you actually thought I was serious, recalibrate your seriousness-thingy
@sehe Flag it please
 
Nah. You marked it (and without the mark it would be pretty clear anyways)
 
7:32 PM
@sehe :D
 
@milleniumbug No, it's used because the users are morons and the semantics of using in C++ are bad.
the problem isn't std::.
 
Has anyone here watched Under the Skin?
 
@Puppy The semantics of using in C++ is fine.
 
> You are eligible to register
There are 153 women matching your chosen options
No previous registrations found
There are only 3 registration slots available right now
lol
 
lolololololo
 
7:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes o.O no
 
I wonder if it's good.
 
@Columbo using whatever::a; using whatever::b; using whatever::c; instead of using whatever(a,b,c); or whatever (repeating the name is annoying)
 
The book is great, I think.
 
@AlexM. did you like the animation? Didn't check whether it was animated svg. Looked smooth
 
lemme rewatch it
 
7:33 PM
@milleniumbug That's just syntax sugar.
 
I wonder what framerate it runs at
 
@Columbo That's DRY violation.
 
@sehe it's a gif
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Plot keywords: alien | playing against type | very little dialogue | desire | female star appears nude
@AlexM. Damn. They could use some IT help. Refactor their animations!
 
Hmm
Very little dialog is because it's an introspective narrator.
 
7:36 PM
:D
 
And the main character is a bit of a lone wolf.
 
> Adam Pearson, who plays the disfigured man that is lured into the vehicle, broke his leg when he was struck by a cab on his way to audition for his role. Director Jonathan Glazer auditioned him the next day at the hospital and gave him the job
 
And there are plot reasons for her appearing nude. Her body is a central plot point.
I'm making it sound even more like porn, am I not?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so you mean "I watch it for the plot" actually works here?!
 
> A mysterious woman seduces lonely men in the evening hours in Scotland. Events lead her to begin a process of self-discovery.
6.3★ on IMDB
 
7:38 PM
It's not porn, I swear
 
We'll call it art-house. Which it probably is
> Release Date: 16 October 2014 (Netherlands)
 
It's not even about sex
 
That's new (I mean the release date)
Now I wanna see it
No nice questions anyway
 
I read the book and it was really good.
Nice character-driven sci-fi for a change
 
Our online video store doesn't carry it
> Nominated for 1 BAFTA Film Award. Another 42 wins & 69 nominations
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^ I'd say you can't be really disappointed
 
7:47 PM
Good sci-fi + naked Scarlett Johansson. I'm sure Lori would love it
7
Dinner was nice
Why is the lounge quiet?
 
@milleniumbug people use using std because they are shown this 'useful shortcut' early on and never told why it can cause such issues.
 
Spaces
 
@Rapptz Ever tried Chromium? I have, works terrific. Super fast.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Interesting. I was under the impression that most sci-fi is world building first and storytelling second.
(Fantasy too, for that matter)
 
7:52 PM
Fantasy suffers a lot more from that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ahh, lori. I wonder when his need for care will drag him back into the Lounge
@R.MartinhoFernandes lori gone
 
I'm writing a variant type for practice and fun.
 
@Columbo More like his need to be heard
 
@milleniumbug std::deviant
@R.MartinhoFernandes risk of German lip synch?
 
7:56 PM
You know what, I don't want to talk behind his back
 
also I'm having problems with making it provide strong exception guarantee
 
Lori is beautiful
 
@sehe You mean... outside, right?
 
On one extreme you have things like Consider Phlebas which is a bit of a world exposition thing and where characters die one page after being introduced. On the other you have stuff like Under the Skin where the plot is just a vehicle to explore the character.
 
Oh, inside too. Depends on what kind of fractals you prefer :)
I don't think the plans are perfidious.
 
7:58 PM
what happened to lori any way?
 
Just a bit tiring :)
 
@sehe Like your plans of controlling the -tag?
 
@JohanLarsson Honestly, I don't know. He's in a new room now anyways.
 
lol @Columbo why did you remove that message
 
@Columbo That's just something I do for me. I hope I'm not fighting anyone over it
 
7:59 PM
@Brian I really don't want to talk behind his back... :/
 
Wow. Finally a new question in . Vtc...
3
 
@PolymorphicPotato still banned?
 
No.
Just can't be bothered to sign out and in.
 
Why were you? For speaking dutch?
 
8:05 PM
For posting a video featuring everyday life in Japan.
2
 
Link?! :)
 
inb4 whatwhat
 
:)
 
@Columbo in the butt
 
@Puppy On the internet, nobody knows you're a twat. Nobo- hold on
 
@sehe Stop helping — Columbo 1 min ago
 
@PolymorphicPotato ahah how is that even still up on youtube?
 
@Columbo stop being envious :)
 
@nick why would it not be?
 
8:08 PM
@sehe :)
 
@PolymorphicPotato That video makes a lot of sense
 
@PolymorphicPotato ah yeah i guess theres nothing 'explicit' technically
 
There's an age restriction on the video.
You must sign in with an 18+ account in order to view it.
 
didnt really look too closely, as i'm at work
 
@PolymorphicPotato o.O Apparently I have signed the agreement with the devil already
 
8:09 PM
IOW the OH GOD THERE'S 13 YO'S ON Stack Exchange argument is moot.
And I mentioned it's NSFW.
 
im 12 yrs old and wat is this
 
> Notice: Age-restricted video (based on Community Guidelines).
 
lame to flag it
 
@nick You must leave Stack Exchange until you're 13.
You're violating the ToS.
 
uh
its my birthday today
 
8:11 PM
@nick Millions of people have their birthday today. You're not special.
 
@sehe I'm trying to find the balance between self-confidence in my technical skills and actually coping with being fired two times in a row (which might point at another serious problem I have to deal with). I am certainly not ignoring the feedback; if anything I feel a little sad I got it in such a way only when it was too late.
 
13 long years have i waited to legally browse StackOverflow
 
@PolymorphicPotato Cheaters! They changed the orientation of the cart-mounted cam for the f-cup
 
barely legal
 
@BartekBanachewicz You got fired twice in a row? Damn
 
8:12 PM
Levels in COBOL are so silly.
 
@PolymorphicPotato /s/Levels in// /s/are/is/
 
why are you searching for "s/Levels in// /s/are/is/"?
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's true. You might have missed the subtler clues of course. People don't like to "educate" adults on social skills. Mentors can help here. Because you can ask them for the feedback. And the mentor doesn't need to be not a direct colleague (it could be your gf, or a koala etc)
 
CODASYL is CODE ASYLUM
 
@sehe +1, especially the koala part
 
8:17 PM
I read somewhere that cobol is written to be ~safe whatever that means. Marketing bs or backed by tech?
 
@JohanLarsson safe as in job security
 
@JohanLarsson safe as long as you DON'T TOUCH IT
 
Xeo
I wonder if this gets strict aliasing's knickers in a twist...
 
8:20 PM
@Columbo FWIW, both times for different reasons, and both times my technical skill was praised at the exit
 
@BartekBanachewicz wat
 
@Xeo -fno-strict-aliasing :D
 
@Columbo what's so surprising in that?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Don't let that bring you down. Uncle Bob has a nice story of him getting fired and then using the feedback to his advantage
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, what could the reasons have been?
 
8:21 PM
I think it's in the "Clean Coder" book
 
@Xeo Yes.
 
@CatPlusPlus it's the first thing you see
 
It's the least thing that matters
 
Xeo
@Puppy Expected as much. Does boost::bimap anger strict aliasing with its flipped pair casting?
 
The documentation is sparse and "no configuration" usually means "it only does what we think is best for you, and nothing else"
 
8:22 PM
@Xeo Haven't seen that code.
 
@Columbo At the startup at the end of the evaluation period I deemed not being determined enough. Had a lot to do with my desire to leave the work on time/not do unpaid overtime. And here it was about me wanting to develop good software and having a hard time adapting to a real-world requirements of a project created by another team.
 
Xeo
@Puppy they got the usual struct pair{ T first; U second; }; and then a struct mirror_pair{ T second; U first; };, only swapping the names
 
@Xeo That's perfectly valid AFAICS, as long as you don't call a member function on an object of the other specializations type (i.e. if you invoke the conversion operator on the lvalue returned from the first overload, that's UB)
 
Xeo
and reinterpret-cast between them
 
Good analysis and alerting is more important than ~~cool presentation~~ of the data
 
8:24 PM
I was told specifically that if there was/will be work that I can use my full potential at, e.g. tools that work separate from the main, sorta dirty codebase, they would be willing to continue our cooperation, but as it stands this project becomes the company main focus and there's hardly a place for me in it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz y u no uni?
 
@ScarletAmaranth I'm still at uni.
 
Riemann's default dashboard has no bells and whistles but it does what it's meant to do, i.e. give you an overview of the system riemann.io/dashboard.html
 
@Xeo I think that's not strictly legal if T and U are complex types.
 
@BartekBanachewicz instead of paid overtime did you get other compensation, like shares of the company?
 
8:24 PM
oh or do you mean teaching
 
@BartekBanachewicz fulltime job with uni?
 
And you can do any kind of processing of events you want with Riemann
@nick lol
 
@ScarletAmaranth ah nah, that thing is still unknown
 
Xeo
@Puppy nothing changes, except names.
i.e. the identifier you access the data from
 
@CatPlusPlus what?
 
8:25 PM
the types (pair and mirror_pair) are not the same type.
 
Compensation for overtime in gamedev
 
@CatPlusPlus hey I know right. I just linked you to it, you don't have to go full cat over it just because the interface/presentation is actually nice
 
Xeo
@Columbo hm
 
if you take say f(pair&, mirror_pair&) the optimizer can generate code that assumes that they do not alias.
 
@nick I was supposed to, but, well, didn't stay there long enough
 
8:25 PM
I can't name any situations where this would actually affect you but theoretically it does exist and I would not personally bet that it does not exist.
 
@AndyProwl Clean Codest
 
@Xeo Calling the copy constructor in the second specialization is fine, since reference binding validity does not depend upon what type an object is, only that there is one
 
@BartekBanachewicz UI's irrelevant either way is my point, so it's 'meh' because there's nothing to go on
 
@AndyProwl lol
 
8:26 PM
@Xeo Wait, is that a "hm" of approval or a "hm" of scepticism
 
@CatPlusPlus I suppose you'd need to read more dilbert
 
@Prismatic Fascinating.
 
so what are the white spots lounge
 
I suppose no
 
8:27 PM
first impression does matter
 
Wrong category of tools
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah ok
 
even if it's a performance monitoring Enterprise-ish solution
 
Wrong audience
 
unless you're convincing management to pay for it
 
8:27 PM
@Prismatic been hit a few times
 
either way, doesn't hurt
 
@BartekBanachewicz You're a good boy
 
@Prismatic sperm.
The high-albedo areas on Ceres are surface features observed multiple times on the dwarf planet Ceres by the Hubble Space Telescope and by the Dawn spacecraft. The brightest spots have been observed in the center of a large crater on the dwarf planet. Bright spots are also visible in many other areas on the surface of Ceres. The brightest spot may have been known from earlier Hubble images, although a member of the Hubble team, Joel Parker, disputes this, suggesting the Dawn spots are different and possibly not observed earlier. When Dawn entered orbit around Ceres, the brightest spot was still...
 
@Prismatic probably a secret us military base funded by the govt black budget
 
Also they said "devops team" so don't trust them
 
8:28 PM
@CatPlusPlus haha, I'll take note
 
should he trust you?
 
he's a cat on the internet
anyway I caught flu or cold or whatever shit so I'm just going to sleep off this week
 
been seen posting gifs in lounges
 
It'd be pretty spooky if the glow was a result of radiating energy
and not a reflection
 
let's play multi factorio this weekend
 
8:31 PM
@Prismatic i feel like there would be some surrounding illumination on the surface if that were the case
 
> The brightness of these spots is caused by a highly-reflective substance on the surface, possibly ice, reflecting sunlight
yeah, I guess its just a reflection
so peculiar though
 
i mean, i still think its a secret US military base
 
Xeo
@Puppy Bimap docs say the only not-strictly-standard-compliant thing they rely on is that pair and mirror_pair are layout-compatible.
 
yay beer
 
@Xeo I can't name any situation in which it would break. But officially, it can break.
 
8:35 PM
@Prismatic swamp gas
 
Passwords still suck
I wonder what the "password reset rate" is per registered account on sites like these
 
every other purchase? :D
 
Arrrg. I wondered why the password in Keepass didn't work. So, I just did the Password reset thing again. SAME RESULT
I think this is one of those sites that truncates the p/w maybe?
Apparently nT_d-nw9EPrjf37XhP7-M is a little too secure for their taste. They can't allow that
 
maybe they validated your input vs a dictionary and concluded that you made a typo?
 
Xeo
Man, fuck strict aliasing sometimes.
 
8:43 PM
Yup. Repeated the "reset" dance, now with a 12 char p/w and it works
@JohanLarsson IMPOSSIBRU. I don't typo. I keepass
 
@JohanLarsson That would be incredibly stupid.
 
He was joking...
 
@nick Right--because the military's never heard of camouflage before.
 
The white spots look like those drone videos blowing people up in iraq
I hope its something wicked cool like a super giant volcano
 
Xeo
8:47 PM
> The third change makes a stronger guarantee (relaxes the strong aliasing rule): The new concept of similar types that are now safe to alias.
 
Everyone's saying its ice but why would ice just be isolated in weird spots like that
 
Xeo
hmmm
 
@Prismatic Why would rock be flying around in balls like that
 
Xeo
Damn, that only deals with (multi-level) pointers and cv, it seems
 
Maybe an icy comet smashed onto the surface and dispersed the water
 
Xeo
Welp, screw that cure little idea then.
 
What kind of code do Italians write?
Spaghetti code!
 
Xeo
Lasagna Code
 
:(
Coincidentally, spaghetti is a terrible dish, whereas lasagna is very nice. :)
 
> VS 2015 considers noexcept specs different if containing newline (connect.microsoft.com)
 
8:55 PM
spaghetti is > one dish
 
lol
 
Xeo
@Rapptz lol
 
Xeo
man, this is annoying. Sometimes I want operator bool to act one way, sometimes the other. :<
 
operator proxy.
 
8:56 PM
@Columbo Doesn't work for me
 
@sehe You're not stupid enough yet, try harder
 
@Rapptz well. If it's inside a raw string literal...
@Columbo I won't. I cherish my nets
 
template <typename T>
void foo() noexcept(
	std::is_nothrow_move_constructible<T>::value) {}
 
Seems they still crave this AST thing
So. Will we dub that bugexpr? In reference to buggyadics
 
@Rapptz Sounds like a weird conversation.
"no, except if no throw move constructible tee."
 
9:00 PM
lol
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Hm
 
@Xeo Booleanness for non-Booleans is instant Krebs.
 
@Jefffrey, I hope that was meant to elicit laughter. — R Sahu 3 hours ago
 
Xeo
It's the only thing that enables construct-and-test, and I like that.
 
@PolymorphicPotato Terrible
 
9:06 PM
:'(
 
@PolymorphicPotato Speaking of which, how is Kreeft doing?
 
@Nico OMG. I can't even <strike>math</strike> wikipedia anymore. Fixedsehe 8 hours ago
 
Kreeft.
see Mill.
 
9:18 PM
Why did I request Bar<C++> talking rights
I thought you can enter an application into a textbox first
 
just watched Rocky.
overrated.
 
Depends who you ask. Many people never thought highly of him
 
@marc I prefer Schwarzenegger with a railgun.
or spinning a shotgun on a motorcycle
 
I guess that's a drawback of watching movies that everyone recommends.
they are alwasys better in your memory
 
Haven't watched many movies lately.
 
9:30 PM
if i may recommend smth: conspiiracy theory with mel gibson (my friends don
't like it, but I think its great)
 
@StackedCrooked I am currently forced to watch movies before my netflix abo runs out ;)
 
9:47 PM
Looks like I'm lost in NYC.
There was a movie about this.
 
Ell
Evening people
 
Good evening.
Hopefully Google Maps is accurate.
 
Evening, commissioner......
 
@Mysticial removed?
 
9:55 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you can't move source files or Unity breaks
Why the fuck do all those .meta files with GUIDs exist
If it still uses the fucking path
Or lol the goddamn GUID changed
jesus
 
Xeo
haaah, the fun
Unreal has similar fun.
Good luck moving enums from one source file to another!
So, I decided to work on this project again. Turns out I have no clue whatsoever about the state I left it in - according to git-flow the last time I did anything with it was 165 days ago.
 

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