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user1804599
9:00 AM
It shadowed the correct version.
 
user1804599
I deleted it and now it works.
 
what's the gotcha
 
Ven
@rightfold uh-oh. think you can report a perlbug?
 
@Ven Of course we do, this is an online chat.
 
user1804599
No, it was specific to my setup.
 
9:00 AM
@buttifulbuttefly what does it tell?
 
user3010322
I think in many cases using just doesn't... work.
 
Ven
Okay
 
@AndyProwl You're both not getting enough butte!!
 
-.-'
 
user3010322
Is it even available in the VS 2013 November CTP 2?
 
user3010322
9:00 AM
It should be.
 
does it at least support nested classes
 
user3010322
nested classes?
 
Yeah it does
 
Ven
nested muthafuckin classes
 
I'll use that instead then..
 
9:01 AM
@buttifulbuttefly let's hope the platform lead gets enough butte
 
#corporatespeak
 
@AndyProwl You realize you're escalating to the platform lead for this? :(
 
for buttes
call cat he's an expert
 
@Rapptz Are you trying to emulate inline namespaces?
 
There should be branches for those kind of situations.
 
user1804599
9:02 AM
@Ven I decided to use Perl for my application.
 
@VictorLopez Mysticial would come and predict the fuck out of them
 
@buttifulbuttefly I'm not. He is. I told him straight I won't do this and offered two alternatives. He's making it a "how dare you not do what I say" issue. I'm making it a "I am a professional and if you don't trust me fuck off" issue. This is important
 
@buttifulbuttefly no
 
Ven
@rightfold which one?
I mean which application
 
template<typename T> using x = ...;
 
9:03 AM
@AndyProwl Yeah I meant it as plural you (fuck english)
 
oh, I see
 
is this like the month of shitty job events or what
 
Ven
I'm at school, and each week is the month of shitty events, considering how many there are
 
well, I know this particular instance is a little drop but I'm tired of this pattern repeating over and over
 
user1804599
@Ven some documentation app I'm working on.
 
9:04 AM
@buttifulbuttefly Quoi tu vouvoies pas quand il est question de professionnalisme ?
 
@AndyProwl That's what I meant by "tells a lot"
 
I see
 
Ven
@rightfold what about it?
 
google translate doesn't know "vouvoies"
 
@LucDanton Je vouvoie tout le temps D:
@AndyProwl Like in Italian, French has 2 "you". Vouvoyer is to use the polite / group one.
 
Xeo
9:06 AM
@AndyProwl Der Tropfen, der das Fass zum Überlaufen bringt.
 
Weird that gargle translate doesn't know it that's rude but not unexpected of an american product
 
If there's a deadline then it may be the case that your product manager is in a rush for delivering the package to the client.
 
Is anyone willing to give me advice in Zulu?
 
/cc @Momotapa
 
@AndyProwl can't, but what is Zulu? I'm curious
(unless you mean the tribal language..)
 
9:08 AM
Tell him the differences between his solution, the ideal solution and place goals for both of you.
Talk about team work and include opinions from the other team members, if it is going to be hard to fix, then, it will be important to know how the other members from the team feel about the situation.
 
Ven
@buttifulbuttefly ...or maybe it's just that the context where you use "tu" or "vous" matters a lot, and google can't guess that :)?
some translators offer to use or another
 
wait
is it Friday today?
WHAT
 
Ven
yes
 
Tu is informal, Vous is formal.
 
user3010322
Oh shit
 
user3010322
9:11 AM
Today is Friday
 
holy shit
 
user1804599
Tu est merde.
 
user3010322
OH SHIT THERE'S AN EXAM TODAY
 
Ven
"tu es* une merde."
 
@Ven No, it's the american.
 
user1804599
9:11 AM
@Ven Francais est merde.
 
Je ne comprend pas.
 
Ven
@buttifulbuttefly you're LRiO-ing
 
francer trer merede
 
user1804599
je suis rightfold
 
@Ven No compliments allowed
 
Ven
9:12 AM
@rightfold "le* francais c'est* de la merde"
;)
 
user1804599
@Ven bonjour
 
Ven
@rightfold hola
 
user1804599
ewa
 
user3010322
Bon Jower.
 
user1804599
le bon bon bloc
 
user1804599
9:13 AM
colonel torvalds
 
C'est plus l'amour et plus 14.
 
user1804599
il pleut
 
c'est pas bientôt fini vos conneries
 
so platform leads agrees with boss
fuck everyone
8
 
user1804599
9:16 AM
ein reich ein volk ein godwin
 
have a star of sympathy and support
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl Quel est le problème?
 
did I mention I feel disgusted when I think about looking for a new job
sent 4 mails so far
my soul is draining
 
user1804599
@buttifulbuttefly neither. :(
 
9:17 AM
> 4 mails
> soul draining
 
user3010322
@AndyProwl You tried.
 
user1804599
Partial functions are nice if you can query their domains.
 
good think bartek is not a starving child in africa
 
good think indeek
 
user1804599
inek siktir lan
 
9:17 AM
bartek is the new black
 
I'm going to be a starving developer in Poland soon though
 
immik si mik
 
@MarcoA. Yeah that's what I meant
26 mins ago, by Andy Prowl
My boss is forcing me to add a non-sense dependency between projects to our codebase because it's the quick way of "fixing" the problem (there are at least 2 cleaner ways that would take just a couple hours longer), because "it's temporary and in six months or so we will clean it up"
 
also for some reason my job feels tedious today
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl ugh
 
9:19 AM
I should look for another job
 
Xeo
inb4 "Andy & Braket Corp."
 
@AndyProwl Just do it at home and show it to him the next day
 
user3010322
@DonLarynx He doesn't get paid to do that at home.
 
@DonLarynx I'd rather find a next job before taking actions that would get me fired
 
user3010322
And unless he says "I did it at home", they'd ask him why he was wasting time doing what they explicitly asked him not to do.
 
user1804599
9:20 AM
@AndyProwl s/we/Andy/
 
@ThePhD THAT DOESN'T MATTER.
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl Put a mail on a timer 6 months from now that reminds him of this
 
user1804599
Threaten with resignation.
 
user3010322
@Xeo That was my suggestion!
 
user1804599
Yes. Horrible.
 
9:22 AM
@AndyProwl Well, it looks like the outcome is you leaving the job either way.
 
user1804599
Stringly typed API.
 
user3010322
1 min ago, by ThePhD
And unless he says "I did it at home", they'd ask him why he was wasting time doing what they explicitly asked him not to do.
 
@rightfold It's just the beginning you fool
 
@ThePhD wow. tard boss is tard....
 
@rightfold more likely s/we/nobody/
 
9:23 AM
i'm raging. and i came in here to rage about floating points. so wow, leaving with double rage argh
 
@DonLarynx nice pun
 
nice buns wait wut
 
@DonLarynx I really feel like leaving yes. The problem is that this city does not have much better opportunities and moving elsewhere would mean being far from my g/f which I also find stressful
 
> rage about floating points
> leaving with double rage argh
> floating points
> double
 
hehe
 
user1804599
9:24 AM
@AndyProwl static_assert(!six_months_passed(__TIME__), "time to fix this!");.
 
@AndyProwl If you also find your gf stressful maybe it's time to breakup
 
@Xeo I will, but I bet this is what is going to happen
@buttifulbuttefly lol, yeah sometimes
 
user1804599
Create a cronjob that inserts show-stopping issues in six months.
 
user1804599
Don't turn it off until the thing is fixed.
 
I believe that the 6 months thing is just a random date.
 
9:27 AM
You know this "burn the school down" voice that whispers in a schizophrenic emarginated student's head
I'm totally hearing it
 
so many job offers for PHP
 
floating point errors are so dumb theyre going to cause a spaceship to sink one day
 
It may be fixed the next week or the next month, matter of communication with the team. By now I think that they're putting the bet in the product delivery.
 
(butt did you see wut i did there)
oh double
 
> (botany, mycology) Roughly the same height for most of its length, becoming much shallower before reaching the attachment point.
In this group of mushrooms, the attachment of the gills to the stipe is emarginate.
 
user1804599
9:28 AM
@BartekBanachewicz PHP is nice.
 
We're developing a video game, want to see? We have a small fan base.
 
user1804599
Speaking of which, I should work on my Noda Time port.
 
@LucDanton tempted to flag
 
> it is too late to edit this message
 
It's a Mega Man tribute under Fair Use: facebook.com/SilverCodyCobain
 
9:30 AM
Italian set the n-th trap for my English
 
@AndyProwl what do you work as?
 
May 8 at 10:44, by Bartek Banachewicz
@rightfold why do you want to annoy people?
4
 
@BartekBanachewicz probably does it inadvertently
 
@DonLarynx A programmer?
 
@AndyProwl but what specifically? like a software developer? or a back-end developer?
 
9:31 AM
SW developer. I'm never sure what "back-end" means but if it is "non-GUI" then yes I don't do GUI
for the most
 
Like a butte.
 
If you say so
 
My back end is fairly developed.
 
@AndyProwl I also agree.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz ok
 
9:33 AM
can't imagine doing front end stuff often. i would rather jump off the GG bridge
gg life
 
actually I do some front-end stuff
 
(see edit)
 
you suck? scnr
 
not classical GUIs though
@BartekBanachewicz lol, yeah apparently
 
@Rapptz what interrogation is that?
it sounds familiar but I don't remember one
 
9:34 AM
sigh no job offers whatsover
the industry is dead basically
 
the one where he asks you questions about what you did in W2
 
@BartekBanachewicz we're hiring, wanna join? :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz move to US
 
@Rapptz who's he?
 
the general!
 
9:34 AM
let me search on youtube I so don't remember this lol
 
when you meet the nilfgaardians
 
@AndyProwl I really really really don't wanna move
 
right after the griffin KO
 
did you generate a save game or did you import it?
 
milf guardians
2
 
9:35 AM
@BartekBanachewicz I understand you
 
no import
might be why actually
 
it's possible, I imported mine
 
why aren't there more mentees on codementor
maybe I should start mentoring in JS actually
 
cicada has a point
I've seen a lot of nilfgaardian guys but no milfgaardians yet
 
@BartekBanachewicz rbx
 
9:36 AM
@Rapptz did you kill the bear lol
 
what bear
 
there's a lv 6 bear somewhere in the forests near orchard just sitting near a place of power
 
@buttifulbuttefly get a load of these hacks github.com/Rapptz/jsonpp/commit/…
 
user1804599
I hope Graphviz can import SVG files.
 
I tried to hit it with a sword and did 0 damage
was like SHIT
I killed it with lots of igni
 
9:38 AM
@Rapptz y u do dis
I upvoted your commit
 
so I only do an undef if I'm the one who did the def.
 
What
Why not use another flag?
 
?
like what
 
There is a Sonic HD open source video game project pending for the glory. If you want to join I kindly invite you.
 
@AlexM. It kept running away from me
 
9:39 AM
Uh I guess that only moves the problem
 
@VictorLopez written in what
 
@BartekBanachewicz C++, entirely. With ChaiScript bindings.
 
oh god not this chaiscript thing
 
gamedev excluisve
 
what is chaiscript
is this another shitty DSL scriptlang
 
9:41 AM
@Rapptz one of your own
 
It's a scripting language that embeds directly into C++
 
@LucDanton teach me sempai
 
user1804599
Mill > ChaiScript.
 
> @lefticus lefticus authored a day ago
oh hey it's this guy
C++ Best Practices dude
 
9:42 AM
Yes
 
weird
 
@Rapptz replace the magic value with #define CLEAN_UP_MY_MESS and test against that
 
He littered his guide with USE CHAISCRIPT or CHAISCRIPT DOES IT THIS WAY
 
@LucDanton that's good
does #undef on a macro that doesn't exist do anything
I wanna say no but idr
 
It resets the universe
 
9:43 AM
sucks
 
user1804599
I have this great idea.
 
at least it rebooted
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl did you ever make use cases.
 
@rightfold what do you mean?
 
user1804599
In software and systems engineering, a use case is a list of steps, typically defining interactions between a role (known in Unified Modeling Language (UML) as an "actor") and a system, to achieve a goal. The actor can be a human, an external system, or time. In systems engineering, use cases are used at a higher level than within software engineering, often representing missions or stakeholder goals. The detailed requirements may then be captured in Systems Modeling Language (SysML) or as contractual statements. Use Cases are an important requirement technique that have been widely used in modern...
 
user1804599
9:45 AM
Did you ever formulate such a thing?
 
I did find ChaiScript a very comfortable language to work with.
 
user1804599
@VictorLopez We can conclude it is bad.
 
@rightfold Why is that so?
 
I submitted a bid on freelancer.com
this website looks way more broken than before :S
 
@rightfold I had to do it for a project once but that was long ago and I've never done it since then
 
user1804599
9:47 AM
On a scale from writing code in Java to eating a well-crafted pizza, how would you rate the experience?
 
I believe ChaiScript can be one of the most powerful platforms to develop software as its core improves. It shouldn't be really hard to improve performance within the language.
 
user1804599
Apparently liquorice is good for your teeth: telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11621887/…
 
> $5.00 USD
is required to take this skills test
uh this is so bad
now I remember why I stopped using this site
 
user1804599
13
Q: How to manage and estimate unstructured requirements received from customers

user20358A lot of the times during the bidding phase of a project I receive a software system's requirements from our potential customers in a very unstructured format from various sources [email, word documents, excel]. It is usually a bunch of "product development" guys from the customer's side who come...

 
> I require a custom one off wall hack ESP hack building for CS GO, this must be a completely unique and custom hack. needs to be undetectable by VAC, ESL, FACEIT etc etc
 
user1804599
9:53 AM
Excellent.
 
cc @AlexM.
 
Google AdSense: We recently sent you a payment
passive app income ...
 
do it and tell me the guy's details
 
if you're not programming to this...god help you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9qKjl0dmhU
 
The best thing about today is that its Friday!!
 
9:54 AM
so many CSGO postings
 
idiots actually pay $$$ to cheat
I'll never get why but w/e
VAC is not very good at catching cheaters
Faceit and CEVO have better anti cheats
the best is ESEA's but...
ESEA also has a history of mining bitcoin with the users' computers :P
and now their client runs like a driver
 
it doesn't help that the owner is a cunt
 
non-ref-qualified methods can be called on any kind of value, right?
 
9:57 AM
e.g. his answer to "Is there any certainty that ESEA won't use my private files?"
was "The only certainty in life is death."
and if you try to argue with him he just bans you and refunds your $$
 
@buttifulbuttefly yeah
 
@rightfold Aw, come on!
 
user1804599
 
is victor lopez lori?
 
Hi vic
 
9:59 AM
>Polls

Would you rather fight a horse-sized duck or 100 duck sized horses?

Horse-sized duck
100 duck-sized horses
I uh.
 
I'd rather eat them
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm horse and duck mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
(I've never had either)
 

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