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user1804599
10:00 PM
You probably think it's terrible, but I'm referring to this.
 
user1804599
ugh that quality youtube sucks
 
@Mysticial lol. -211 now :)
@rightføld hahaha. that's one wild sleeping child
 
user1804599
Haggard is great. I wanna see them live.
 
Also, "mors stupebit et natura quam resurget creatura"?
Fine for a sleeping child. IT IT'S DEAD.
 
user1804599
I should port my generic MarkovChain from Scala to C++.
 
user1804599
10:10 PM
And compare the results.
 
Yeah. You should
 
user1804599
Indeed.
 
6000rpm
 
@Jefffrey I don't get it
 
wtf
 
Ell
10:10 PM
Hmm
 
for watching a fucking youtube video
v0v
 
user1804599
Sure it's not 3000fps?
 
i don't get it
 
3000 faps per second
 
@rightføld my fans
my fans are running at 6000rpm
 
10:11 PM
I don't have any fans :(
@Jefffrey Have you checked that the number of installed viruses and malware doesn't exceed the rated capacity of your box?
 
I have a solid state fan
 
Ell
That ain't a thing
 
@Mysticial ...and the other is Jon Harrop.
 
Mine is fanless too
 
@Ell Are you sure about this? Corsair released one a year ago (2024). Did I mention I'm a time traveler?
 
10:15 PM
ugh, there's only one instance of swi-prolog's engine allowed to be embedded per process
there goes my plan to infer shit on a specified number of threads
 
What unjustice
 
@sehe I was actually just kidding. I didn't know there were actual ss fans.
 
@JerryCoffin Is there a story to him? I don't think I've heard it.
 
@Nooble They are not fans, so you could have worked out it's ridiculous to say.
However, fanless PCs are very much a thing
 
ahh...
 
10:16 PM
seriously
 
passive cooling, I assume?
 
why the fuck does my cpu have to go to 90° when watching youtube videos
every fucking time
 
Which CPU do you have?
Malware? Bloatware?
 
user1804599
Try uninstalling Flash.
 
@Nooble 2,4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 
10:18 PM
Flash uses an extreme amount of memory, so roghtfold might be on to something.
 
@rightføld AFAIK it's not even using flash
it's that html5 thingy
 
@Jefffrey Adobe products are not meant to run on Core 2 processors. At minimum they require 16 i7 cores running at 10 GHz.
 
user1804599
Uninstall Flash anyway.
 
I was just about tk say
Html5
 
Ell
Intel core 2 duo
How old are they? :L
 
10:19 PM
@Mysticial lol
 
@Jefffrey Look at your processes on Windows (Ctrl + Shift + Esc)
If it's not using HTML5 iirc it has a Flash executable running
 
> Google Chrome Helper
Is taking most of the CPU
 
1080p playback can put quite a bit of load on a cpu, especially at 60fps
 
@rightføld I'll try
 
10:21 PM
Flash will be running all the time if it was used at least once
 
^
 
Not from what I've seen.
I'm using FF
So I don't know
 
Dunno if Chrome runs one plugins process or one per tab or whatever they do
Firefox doesn't kill Flash
 
did you forget thermal grease
or to apply it well
 
seems I can attach new threads to an existing prolog engine though
so I do get sorta what I wanted
 
10:23 PM
What do you use Prolog for
 
now ruby is taking 15% of the cpu
wtf
for running a SASS watcher, are you kidding me
 
Processes that are running are actually running what sort of black magic is that?????????
 
Run Malwarebytes and CCleaner
 
@CatPlusPlus making something that learns facts and rules, and applies deduction on them
 
your processor is shit jefffrey
 
10:25 PM
essentially I want to see where I end up by teaching this thing stuff and trying to make it teach itself
 
> I can reproduce the following behaviour: play a movie stream via flash (f.i. twich.tv) and I have a cpu usage of 60-90% by google chrome helper. If I play a stream with youtube (html5) or via flash in safari I only have a cpu usage of 15%.

It happens all the time when playing movie streams with flash.
 
Flash is running in software mode hth
 
I need flash for animating
can't deinstall that
 
@Mysticial He's a bit like Ira Baxter, though not entirely. Runs "Flying Frog Consultancy", which does consulting on Ocaml and (recently) F#. Is marginally less blatant about his spamming, mostly advocating for his currently favored language more than directly spamming about his business, but the emphasis here is definitely on the "marginally" part. Ira is also much more polite, and a bit more careful about only spamming where his product honestly is at least a possible solution.
 
Seriously, 1080p playback can be quite a thing on old processors
 
10:26 PM
360p currently
 
How much memory do you have?
 
@Jefffrey reinstall windows
 
I was reading Ira Baxter's answers and they are honestly not that bad.
 
Why do you care about CPU usage
 
/joke
 
10:27 PM
@Nooble I can't remember (SCNR).
 
Are you also one of those people that absolutely need RAM usage to be MINIMAL AND NOT A BIT MORE
 
@Rapptz The worst of them got deleted long ago.
 
wat
I wouldn't care if fans didn't start spinning
 
That is a worthwhile goal yes
(Get better passive cooling system)
 
i can't even hear the sound of the video over those of the fan
 
10:29 PM
lol
Get a better active cooling system while you're at it, too
 
can't turn up the volume because it's 00:30 over here
 
@CatPlusPlus I want a direct heat exchanger between my CPU and Antarctica.
 
that's some badass fan right there
 
and people are sleeping
 
@Jefffrey Headphone time!
 
10:29 PM
@JerryCoffin Wormhole XTreme Cooling
 
Well, to be honest, from what you're telling me, I can't narrow down what can possibly be causing problems. CPU throttling might be a cause.
 
I'll have to reset everything anyway
to "upgrade" to yosemite
 
lol osx
 
wait you're on a mac?
 
you use a mac?
 
10:30 PM
the transparent OS
 
lol
take that mac to apple, it's dead
 
yes I use a mac
 
you can't do anything for it
maybe they'll fix it for free
or replace it
 
You need certified iPaste for just 999€/gram
 
genius bar
 
10:31 PM
lol
 
or maybe they'll chage me $1M
who knows
 
@JerryCoffin His recent answers aren't bad at all either. Like for example this one is pretty decent and I don't see any links to his product or anything. I don't even think he mentions it.
 
we'll iFix your mac for $1k
iFixing is better than fixing
 
Y u no use linux or windoes machine
 
because it has an i at the beginning
 
10:32 PM
@Nooble windows machines are 10x worse than mac
 
@Rapptz Well after everyone yelled at him 3 times for doing that shit you'd think he'd learn not to do that
 
also apple guarantees badass hardware
 
user1804599
Should I make FSM contravariant on Alphabet?
 
Ell
My phone is running slow
I wonder if its reserving stored energy
 
my phone is perfectly fine since 2008
badass iphone
 
10:33 PM
bad assphone
 
user1804599
Mine will still be perfectly fine in 2050.
 
@Jefffrey I don't know if you're trolling, but Windows is better in terms of flexibility.
 
user1804599
badass nokia
 
I dropped it more times than I jerked off since 2008
@Nooble lolno
 
Lelyus
 
10:34 PM
I wouldn't run a non-unix system even if they paid me
 
while I used OS X at work I really appreciated the mystery surrounding it
"Would you like to install updates now or try again tonight?"
 
The mystery is people paying for that shit
 
I was left wondering wtf tonight means
is it 0:00?
 
it's not shit
 
21:00?
 
10:34 PM
hth
 
2:00?
is it an universal constant?
 
that's why people pay for it
 
Just get an actual linux machine, no need for bullshit closed wall software and hardware.
 
lol
Being delusional is a consequence or prerequisite here idk
 
I ain't going back to changing computer every two years because omg something broke
omg blue screen
 
10:36 PM
omg you're so bad
 
I ended up spending more over a stupid "normal" PC with windows xp on it, then I've ever paid apple
 
Ell
Linux suits my needs perfectly besides graphics :L
 
Terrible bait m8.
 
windows will not blue screen if you're using it right. You will also not need to upgrade every month, contrary to belief. Upgrading parts is way better than buying a whole system altogether, imo.
 
almost 5 years now, my mac has never had any trouble whatsoever
 
10:36 PM
W8.1 works perfectly for me
 
yep
 
The same can be said about any decent operating system you dope.
 
also how do you even play games on a mac
 
5 games
 
I hope you're playing games
 
10:37 PM
@Rapptz i'm not talking about operating system only
hardware as well
 
I have more games in my steam library than Mac has actual titles
 
help my core 2 duo from 10 years ago is overheating what do
 
still as fast as when I bought it
 
I hate people who bring up "b-b-b-but the games!"
 
@Rapptz well when I'm not coding I'm playing games so >.>
 
10:38 PM
@Nooble the only game I run is minecraft so i don't care
 
@Jefffrey You were complaining about your shitty processor like 10 minutes ago.
 
I sometimes play games even when I'm coding
I should eat something
I should've bought bread before it was midnight
 
it's old and shitty compared to what exists, but it's perfectly fine for my needs
even minecraft takes less cpu usage then a fucking yt video
and it's made in java
 
Correlation = none
 
i know
i'm just ranting
 
10:39 PM
You're terrible at this.
 
i know
 
I have to say, the new menu in xfce is nice
 
'new'?
 
it's like, easy to use
@Rapptz new for me, didn't check xfce in a year
 
Is there an XFCE 5 I'm not aware of
 
10:41 PM
one sec
 
XFCE 4 is like a million years old by now
 
@Rapptz here, it comes bundled with trusty tahr i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/…
back when I was using xubuntu, it looked like this 2.bp.blogspot.com/-JoWhpj9zET4/UrTUqFeK0BI/AAAAAAAAB_c/…
that was one year ago or so
 
my xfce still looks like that 2nd image
 
As windows PC is absolutely superior to a Mac
Huge software library
 
lolbuntu
 
10:43 PM
could it be some customized version of xfce that's only used in xubuntu?
no idea
but I like it
 
no
 
IMHO if you wanted a Unix OS just get Ubuntu
 
it's this
 
oh
ok, that cleared up things
 
Mac's are overpriced, especially for the hardware you get.
 
10:43 PM
i3 best WM
 
it's just a launcher
 
I don't like any of the ~~fullblown~~ DEs
 
Good on ya.
 
Ell
I mostly dislike the fragmentation of configuring things on linux
 
My Laptop for example, has 16GB of RAM, an i7-4810MQ, a GTX-870m and a 1TB hard drive and a 256GB SSD as C:
 
Ell
10:45 PM
And usually they aren't flexible enough anyway
 
All for 1,400
 
@AlexM. I've never actually tried it. I like regular XFCE but I figure it's worth a try one day.
 
If you can even find a Mac with the same specs as my machine, at the same price, I will promise you infinite cake.
 
omg you don't pay only the hardware
also windows + that machine is less performant than an equivalent apple hardware with mac os x
 
I don't only look at the hardware, but if your entry level 13 inch notebook is 1300 and has only an i3
 
10:46 PM
I'd pay to have osx taken away
 
@Jefffrey Terrible bait.
 
I don't know what some Loungers are doing. I can't get 'FlashPlayerPlugin' to use more than 8% even with full-screen HD.
 
Why are you even trying?
 
People these days, buying Apple products as fashion accesories...
 
@Rapptz i'm not baiting you into anything
 
10:47 PM
@Nooble for Macs that's okay though
 
@MartinJames Apparently osx is as good at GPUs as Intel
 
there ain't much for regular users to do that requires anything better than an i3
 
@MartinJames From my googling it seems to be an OS X only bug with Chrome.
 
The price though!
1.3k!
 
technically, for developers, there's the macbook pro
and the mac pro
yeah $1.3k is a bit...
 
10:48 PM
Meh I need to buy a new shitptop
 
again, I play games a lot so I'm kinda leaning towards this stuff
but for $1.3k I'd get a hell of a gaming laptop from ASUS
 
I have that!
I hav a G751
*G750
not G751
 
gaming laptop
lol
 
Why lol?
 
lol
 
10:49 PM
@Rapptz It took a while, but yes, he's improved quite a bit. Especially after the first question about him came up on meta, it was pretty clear that he had read the guidelines carefully, and was consistently all the way to the very limit that got defined--and it took a while for people to realize that he was basically "language lawyering", taking what were intended as general guidelines, and assuming it was fine as long as he didn't do anything specifically prohibited.
 
I didn't buy it for gaming, I bought for the good price and specs.
Gaming is just an added extra.
Minecraft runs at 400 fps for me, all at max settings and 32 render distances.
 
wow they still sell Celeron shitptops
 
And I can run 1080p youtube at 0.2% cpu usage.
Huehuehue
 
my laptop's showing its age in games, I should replace it
 
Macs are terrible, overpriced fashion accessories, I've had people come up to me telling me that Mac was the choice because it "looked pretty"
 
10:51 PM
the last game it ran really well was... Civ 5
I can't do it now though
 
@Nooble then they must be "overpriced fashion accessories"
 
which means the three weeks I'll spend at my parents' this December will be full of Civ 5
 
Hm there are some not-completely-crappy ones for 500€
 
OSX does not justify a huge premium in price. Even if OSX is better, which I am telling you, it isn't.
 
@CatPlusPlus Intel recently...rehabilitated the "Celeron" and "Pentium" names, so they're selling low-end chips under those brands again.
 
10:53 PM
Tell me one thing OSX can do that Windows can't?
 
Eject CDs by drag&drop to Trash
 
@Nooble sudo!
 
I'll never stop laughing about that
 
start 20 programs at the same time
 
10:54 PM
@Jefffrey HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
make it 100
or generally be fast and responsive
 
or reliable
 
You must be Win98 user
 
10:54 PM
my windows is pretty fast and responsive
 
^
 
ok
 
How are things in the past?
 
Where did Windows touch you Jeffrey?
 
Even better yet, what can OSX do that Ubuntu can't?
 
10:55 PM
@Rapptz in my special place
 
Ubuntu is shit
 
run my fans apparently
 
Don't bring it up
 
My laptop is generally fast and responsive. Not only does it boot in 4 seconds, it also boots with all my generally used programs.
 
last time I tried to put into this computer it went to 86° and didn't start the fans
 
10:56 PM
How are MSI shitptops these days
 
who cares about booting
 
Okay
Shure
 
i haven't booted my mac in months
 
Well, that's just unhealthy for computers in general.
Tell me, have you ever heard of a server running OSX?
 
@Nooble Help you lose weight.
 
10:57 PM
not for macs apparently
 
hahaha osx servers
 
@Nooble use linux for servers
 
They're impossible to find
 
@Jefffrey Exactly.
Use linux for everything.
 
Which also makes any sort of OSX development absolute shit
 
10:57 PM
Since you want unix.
 
lol
 
There's no way to automate this nonsense
 
your logic is flawed
 
My logic is completely founded.
 
@CatPlusPlus wtf are you on about
@Nooble "if you want linux for servers you want linux for everything"
 
10:58 PM
oh shit
 
osx is shit
 
My bad
 
if you can't see a flaw there, we can simply stop discussing
 
Phrased that wrong
 
developing for osx is shit
 
10:59 PM
why
 
I meant if you want linux for servers, why not just use linux for everything.
 
Because you need crapple hardware and can't virtualise this shit and cross-compiling is tedious and error-prone
 
Since you already said you preferred unix
 
that's not better pal
 
don't remind me that when I wanted to run my app on a device the first thing Apple threw at me were licenses, fees and limits
 

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