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1:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz nice, a great way to not duplicate info :D
 
it's a parody of education
 
it's college
get out of it quick and code stuff
 
@AlexM. I'm working on a hardware project ATM
but I'm going to get back to my haskell game soon I hope
 
I have this year and then half of the next ahead of me
 
well, get out of it quick and solder stuff
 
1:04 PM
@AlexM. I am doing only this subject this year because I failed the crypto exam;
I'm working full-time
 
this reminds me, college started almost 5 weeks ago
and I still haven't attended anything
hmm
 
lol
 
well it's fine, I'll just email the profs
 
nah this is the third week
 
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1:06 PM
@Jefffrey I'm surprised nobody has said that that's racism yet.
 
it's not racism
 
it's just dummness
 
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@AlexM. Captain Obvious saves the day!
 
godwin
hitler
nazi
fascism
 
1:08 PM
riceism
 
racing
 
there, I cleared that up
 
you're all racingists
 
user1804599
PRISM
 
I don't like speed
I know someone who tried it, they say it just gives you some boost
It's not like LSD
 
1:10 PM
LSD > mushrooms
I tried to take champignons but nothing happened
mushrooms are overrated
 
user1804599
WE ARE THE CHAMPIGNONS, MY FUNGUS
5
 
on a more serious note, I've been thinking about grilling some big champignons
people say grilled mushrooms are good
only ate mushrooms in stews and sauces so far
 
mushrooms risotto
that one is very good
 
also, can you imagine being a snail
you can climb up on mushrooms
and be like mario or something
 
are you high?
 
1:12 PM
@Jefffrey hey, you gave me an idea
 
@BartekBanachewicz How can you fail crypto? Presumably, if you had just submitted a file of random bytes so the examiners could not crack it, you would have passed.
 
don't use stairs
that's cheating
 
I have a 10 month old pack of rice
and I never found something to do with it
 
mushroom risotto sounds good
 
1:14 PM
@OllieFord we're a chatroom, not an API
 
yeah, pretty positive I'm not an API
but if I were, I'd be a RESTful API
 
@Bartek nice.
Then I'll be succinct. My class inherits another, tries to overload member function. Overloaded function is never called (tried printing to stdout) - why?
 
@OllieFord provide an SSCCE
 
@BartekBanachewicz You gotta be shitting me,
 
@OllieFord what everyone is trying to say is
 
1:17 PM
@OllieFord I don't really dig this kind of sexual games, so I'll pass.
 
ask on stackoverflow
 
@OllieFord SSCCE please
Otherwise we can't help you
Here for more info: sscce.org
 
@Jefffrey I appreciate it but Bartek deleted it.
 
That's not an SSCCE
And it was Robor, not bartek
 
@OllieFord Stack Overflow is the site for Questions
 
1:18 PM
@OllieFord Bartek did no such thing.
 
Make a compilable example, here: coliru.stacked-crooked.com
Or one that highlights the compilation error you are getting
 
sublime text shows line numbers and the nice vertical lines between brackets by default
 
@Jefffrey I was, but then @R.MartinhoFernandes deleted it when I pressed enter instead of shift-enter, and @BartekBanachewicz decided he was an asshole :)
 
now here's an editor that knows how code should be written
 
@OllieFord No, you pasted the code here. And multiline dumps of code take up half of my screen.
 
1:19 PM
@OllieFord I've officially lost all interest in helping you now.
 
Don't post long stretches of code inline.
 
That's why it was deleted.
If you paste it to coliru and the give us the link, you are more likely to not get your message deleted
Also insulting regulars is not exactly the best way to go
 
@OllieFord think of the time you spent here telling bartek he's an asshole
you could have used that time to post your question on SO
 
@Jefffrey /agree
 
But I guess you are not smart enough to understand this yourself
 
1:21 PM
maybe, you could have gotten an answer by now too!
time is your most important currency ollie
don't use it to tell others they're assholes for not helping you
/philosophy
 
@AlexM. I don't believe it's question worthy, I'm sure it would be a dupe, which is why I started by saying I tried implementing those answers but either didn't fit, or I wasn't doing it right.
 
why is this new guy so certain that bartek is an asshole?
maybe it's obvious that bartek is one ...
 
@chmod711telkitty because they haven't seen the lounge's real assholes?
 
@OllieFord If it's a dupe, maybe you could tell us of which one and what isn't clear in the answers.
Then we can improve them and help not just you.
 
I have a weird question. So you guys know those sites that have python interpreters or things of that ilk? Does that only work for interpreted languages? Does anything similar exist for C++ or Java?
 
1:24 PM
@corvid Interpreters only work for languages that have interpreters.
 
@rightføld making wine are we?
 
which reminds me puppy & cat are both inactive @ moment
 
user1804599
Wine sucks.
 
well yeah. I meant able to compile C++ or Java code. That wouldn't work, would it?
 
user1804599
The drink, not the software.
 
1:25 PM
IIRC there was an experimental C++ interpreter
 
user1804599
You can compile C++ to Java.
 
@corvid Why not?
 
@rightføld I like them both :' (
 
user1804599
Java is Turing-complete.
 
thanks god
 
1:25 PM
@corvid do you mean something like Haskell's interactive web thing?
 
user1804599
Or C++ or Java.
 
@corvid The distinction between "interpreted language" and "compiled language" is nonsense. Forget it and move on.
 
user1804599
I thought to. :D
 
or something like... coliru?
 
@corvid why not?
 
1:26 PM
@AlexM. yeah, except it would write a whole program. I want to capture the stdout of the program, sanitize it, and send it to the back end
 
the sanitizing part sounds difficult though. Don't these compilers and interpreters run purely client side?
 
erm, I must be missing something
 
Sanitizing is wrong.
 
what exactly do you want that coliru doesn't do?
 
1:27 PM
@corvid no.
 
In information security, computer science, and other fields, the principle of least privilege (also known as the principle of minimal privilege or the principle of least authority) requires that in a particular abstraction layer of a computing environment, every module (such as a process, a user or a program depending on the subject) must be able to access only the information and resources that are necessary for its legitimate purpose. == Details == The principle means giving a user account only those privileges which are essential to that user's work. For example, a backup user does not need...
 
I don't believe in sanitizers, if some code is wrong, it should be duly punished: github.com/munificent/vigil
 
Run the code with minimal privileges, instead of analysing it to filter bad stuff.
 
@AlexM. The idea is I want to have a practice problem, then they write an answer of some sort. For the minimal viable product, I want to capture their stdout and compare it to the "correct" answer
 
so like every programming contest ever
 
1:30 PM
@corvid so you want to cherry pick only what you need from the output?
is this what sanitizing is?
 
@AlexM. No. He wants to sanitize the code that is submitted.
To prevent it from doing the nasties.
 
I guess I'm thinking of something different, like if someone was trying to do something dangerous it doesn't actually run on the back end, does it? I know that skulp for python doesn't really do much related to the back end, it runs client side
 
so like, running a static analyzer and removing what it says it's bad?
the only sanitization wiki page I found is about HTML
and removing tags which are not considered safe
 
Fucking marvellous. Yesterday, there were only bad questions. Today, there are bad questions spammed onto the Lounge because poster could not be bothered to do its own dup search. Then some morons on meta tell me I've gotta be nice:(
 
1:32 PM
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Run the code with minimal privileges, instead of analysing it to filter bad stuff.
 
@corvid wait, why would your programs be allowed to even do something dangerous
sandbox them in one way or another
 
@MartinJames metamorons
 
or yeah privileges
 
can it be compiled completely client side, and then POST the stdout?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's inevitable that I'll get banned soon for losing it with some twat.
 
1:34 PM
@corvid Why do you even post the stdout at that point?
Just make the whole thing in JS
 
@corvid No. It's impossible to have a compiler on the client.
 
POST the stdout to compare it to the correct answer, then return the diff between the correct answer and their answer
 
Clients are physically impossible to run compilers.
 
(Do you trust the result if it was all done outside of your control?)
 
1:36 PM
I haven't seen a decent c++ question on SO in soo long.. I'm beginning to believe that I've lost the ability to read minds (which is a skill I must have had in the past).
 
okay. I'm not entirely sure how to manage privilege on heroku. Would that be part of the web application itself?
 
if you're not sure then don't do it
 
@corvid I don't think heroku would be a good fit for this
 
why's that? Need more control over the environment?
 
Maybe a VPS in which you create a virtual machine or something?
 
1:38 PM
just ask @StackedCrooked about how he runs coliru.
 
@corvid How would you create the sandbox?
 
he runs totally untrusted code there all the time.
 
in the entry-level area, self-built servers are like, a lot more expensive than prebuilt alternatives O_o
 
what's a quirk on a door frame?
 
@Jefffrey to be honest, I was just hoping someone made a library for it already. I never trust myself with security features
 
1:40 PM
the cheapest motherboard I could find + the processor on an entry level DELL server is almost as expensive as the DELL itself
and that one comes with RAM too, and 1TB+ of storage
and the case
 
Atom is a domain-specific language (DSL) in Haskell, for designing real-time embedded software. == History == Originally intended as a high level hardware description language, Atom was created in early 2007 and released in open-source of April of the same year. Inspired by TRS and Bluespec, Atom compiled circuit descriptions, that were based on guarded atomic operations, or conditional term rewriting, into Verilog netlists for simulation and logic synthesis. As a hardware compiler, Atom's primary objective was to maximize the number of operations, or rules, that can execute in a given clock cycle...
hey, that looks nice
 
add just $10 more and there's an HP with the same specs but twice the storage
buying the components individually would cost $500 more I estimate
 
@corvid I don't think sandboxing is at application level. More at OS level.
But yeah, ask Stacked
 
Did Stacked make Coliru?
 
Yes
 
1:50 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit heyyyy
i wasten't here a long long time lol
/j #android
 
lol
lightness is gone, pal
 
lol
 
:(
 
yeah, that's definitely good
 
why good?!?!
 
1:51 PM
reasons
 
because
 
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bukkake
 
@elichai2 you are more likely to find him on SO
good luck
 
user1804599
> Tue Feb 26 18:03:59 UTC 2013
 
user1804599
old shit
 
1:52 PM
Why can I pink lightness if it's not in the room?
 
You know what SO needs?
An h-index
The h-index is an index that attempts to measure both the productivity and impact of the published work of a scientist or scholar. The index is based on the set of the scientist's most cited papers and the number of citations that they have received in other publications. The index can also be applied to the productivity and impact of a group of scientists, such as a department or university or country, as well as a scholarly journal. The index was suggested in 2005 by Jorge E. Hirsch, a physicist at UCSD, as a tool for determining theoretical physicists' relative quality and is sometimes called...
How many answers get that many upvotes?
Haw many questions get that many upvotes?
 
Oct 15 at 17:10, by Lightness Races in Orbit
This will be perceived by some as a "rage quit", because it fits with their chosen narrative. It's not one. I believe pretty much anyone would take a Lounge break given all the above. Heck, Bartek took one for no reason at all! But I hope that, while you're being fed lie after lie about me, by those who would deem themselves morally superior despite evidence to the contrary, you try to remember some of the good times. But I shall find a new home. So long!
 
lol still drama?
 
someone's bringing up all the drama again
 
@ScottW RTFT
2
 
1:56 PM
so
up to 4 CTPs for VS 14.
 
@ScottW tl;dr he left
 
@ScottW people said he was bad, he left
 
if I didn't know better I'd say that Microsoft actually wanted a working compiler.
 
1:57 PM
@Puppy it would seem so yes, given that they have been very reticent to say it's a beta that is beginning to seem more likely
 
lol murkdown lists don't work inside [quote] on dicsourse
 
Thanks Jeff
 
user1804599
Why are you still using Discourse?
 
OMG
 
np m8
 
1:58 PM
I don't have time to work on migration
 
i got rejected from the android channel because they said i was creepy here!~
 
@rightføld Because I like it better than PhpBB
 
It's phpBB you butte
 
that was a joke. @LightnessRacesinOrbit knows it :\
 
w/e
 
1:59 PM
@CatPlusPlus it's pHp
 
user1804599
The Android channel is indeed a joke.
 
Yes that was a good joke
 
@elichai2 lightness is not female hth
 
V good joke
We'd reject you too hth
 
@rightføld We're using Dicsource.
 
1:59 PM
disksource is written in rubby
 
lol rubby
 

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