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2:00 PM
Also, sorry for my long absence. Was traveling.
 
and here we go again
 
We need a calendar for tracking times
 
lol
 
@Jefffrey meh, I'm working with C now, even rubby is better
 
2:00 PM
glad we agree on that
 
user1804599
stop calling it rubby ffs
 
let's mooooove on
 
NodeBB has some promise but has no calendar
 
LANGUAGE DEBATE GO
 
At least it's not rubby though
 
2:01 PM
rubbyBB
 
all languages are shit
 
rubby is so rubbish
 
debate finished
 
Debate my butt
No
 
@TonyTheLion C++ is the shit
 
user1804599
2:01 PM
Your butt is the shit.
 
debutt my bate
 
@ScottW no
 
@ScottW like in gonewild?
 
user1804599
Full of all the shit.
 
fag yourself
 
2:02 PM
what bittorrent site is good nowadays - have not used it for ages
need to watch some new tv-show
 
every minutes I'm spending in here I feel like my brain is being damaged
 
& it's not showing here ...
 
@chmod711telkitty pornhub
 
...
no need to watch your sister :')
 
good to know
 
2:03 PM
@chmod711telkitty nah, it's your mom
 
oh wow, sister's jokes
lol
 
@Jefffrey seriously?
 
seriously what
REPLY TO MESSAGES FFS
 
Seriously damaged
 
@rightføld the android channel isn't serious?
3
 
2:04 PM
@Jefffrey we need the "the gif"
 
@elichai2 look, the lightness is gone. there is nothing to do for you here
 
except farming stars apparently
 
We're the most seriousest channel
 
We have newbs visiting, we have idiots visiting, but the chance of a dumb newb visiting is ... phew ...
 
> channel
 
2:05 PM
This room is the biggest joke of all
 
more like chanel
 
everything here is butte
 
@chmod711telkitty newbs ar always dumb
 
btw lol NodeBB has a chat
For what purpose I have no idea
 
it's like water is always wet
 
2:06 PM
@TonyTheLion is that why you are here?
 
@Abyx water isn't wet
 
Also jefff are you jeff
 
water causes things to get wet
you dum
 
Propose a better UI for the forum since you complained
 
user1804599
2:07 PM
Lekker, een ui.
 
user1804599
Ik houd van uien.
 
some unexpected definitions
 
@CatPlusPlus dicsource UI is perfectly fine
it's the system that is fucked up
like... closing topics don't actually close topics
or
 
@Jefffrey your ass is wet
 
user1804599
Discourse has fixed header so the UI is instantly horrible.
 
2:08 PM
Ugh it's bad
 
Sep 15 at 15:22, by Bartek Banachewicz
user image
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes, that not UI you dum
that's backend being silly
that lock and that star icon is fairly sexy if you ask me
<3
 
How can a member function of a derived class have a return type that is "either the derivative or the parent"?
 
oh fuck off
 
That reminds me that I have some pizza left to microwave
 
2:10 PM
@OllieFord don't go there
it's only downhill from there
 
user1804599
I want to arrange flowers.
 
think I found an easy solution. ideone has an API where they compile the code and return the result
 
user1804599
Flowers are great.
 
Also for fuck's sake why are those stupid projects not have changelogs
 
Xeo
2:12 PM
Your grammar. It's borked.
 
holy shit ^
 
@Jefffrey Oh :( - wait I should clarify I wasn't clear enough - it's a third class that has a member function which should return either a derived or the derived's parent. So foo.bar() might return an A or a B (which inherits A).
 
user1804599
@OllieFord depends on what you want to return.
 
@OllieFord how do you want to use the returned value?
(as an A) or (as an A or as an B)?
 
user1804599
You can return std::unique_ptr<Base>, Base&, Base const&, etc.
 
2:13 PM
@OllieFord either explicit templates or (not recommending it) return polymorphic A
 
user1804599
Or boost::variant<Base, Derived> though that probably breaks horribly.
 
I'd go with templates because everything that is static or compile time makes me wet
 
@rightføld I want to return an object of that class, whether parent or child - because the child overloads a member function that I'll then call
@BartekBanachewicz I'll set/get a value from it, the child overloads these member functions
 
@BartekBanachewicz mmm - you once a few months back linked a paper that modeled material deformation and polygon behaviour related to it - any chance you remember :P? I can't seem to find it :)
 
but being sentenced for actions against a chat bot - it's just insane
it's quite close to thoughtcrimes
 
2:16 PM
Not really no
 
or killing people in a PC game
 
@Jefffrey I'm not sure how that works - currently the function is A& operator[](unsigned idx){}; - but then it returns Bs as As. How do I return them as Bs, while still being able to return As (that aren't Bs)?
 
you don't.
the operator may have only one return type.
 
make two different containers for As and Bs
 
user1804599
2:19 PM
If the return type is A& and A is a base class of B then you can return a reference to a B just fine.
 
you can defer the type check until runtime with a variant or dynamic_cast, but this typically indicates that your design is busted.
 
@rightføld Yes, i can - but I lose the overload, it behaves exactly like an A
 
@Puppy template<class Type> Type& func(...)
 
user1804599
Your design is terrible.
 
Haha, I don't doubt it
 
2:19 PM
but that doesn't work well with operator[]
 
@Jefffrey That's not multiple return types, that's multiple functions
 
because you would need to call operator[]<Type>(...) or something
 
Plus you can't deduce that, C++ has no return type overloading
 
@CatPlusPlus yes, that's why you have to be explicit
I agree it's a terrible idea
 
Might as well not bother with template at all
Esp that there are only two variants
 
2:21 PM
just go with two different containers
 
And they're unlikely to be the same anyway
 
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Q: Introduce "reputation metrics" and better visualization to provide better ways to view a user's reputation data

rubenvbThe current reputation system fails to convey a lot of information about the contributor. I propose to add a simplistic data analysis based on e.g. academic citation metrics (H index, or any of the cool alternatives). I propose these numbers to be calculated from the questions and answers sepera...

 
if you need two different objects, then you might as well divide them into two different sets
 
lol rep
Who cares
 
Reputation metrics ftw!
 
2:21 PM
It doesn't convey anything useful
 
lol
 
except for jobs
 
@CatPlusPlus read the proposal.
 
I don't care about the proposal
 
2:22 PM
apparently job recruiters take high rep users and then trim them down based on the actual quality of the answers/questions
but you need to be high rep to be visible
 
job recruiters who use SO*
 
@ScarletAmaranth the one with ducks? Or with the cannonbals and foil?
 
I'm with you there though
the only reason I answer questions is to generate content to add to my careers.so profile
 
@BartekBanachewicz cannonballs and foil! :)
 
2:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yey, thanks!
 
also if you have 100K it might convey that you know something
 
lol no
 
@Jefffrey As in not mix `A`s and `B`s in the array? That was like, my whole motivation for this "terrible design" though :p

I have one `B` and several `A`s, the only difference between them is that `B` does not allow set (so I overload it to just do nothing). But I want to abstract from "access my b, access one of my as".

The only other (nasty) alternative I could think of though was `bool allowSet`...
 
Just like votes don't mean anything but "a lot of people pressed this butan for one reason or another (but most likely because they're idiots and the answer was already popular)", rep doesn't mean anything but "someone has enough patience to get worthless internet points"
 
@rightføld I hate you <3
 
2:26 PM
You can't aggregate knowledge to a number
 
@OllieFord I don't quite understand. Maybe you should use a real life example instead of As and Bs.
Also what does it mean to "not allow set"
 
> access my b
uuuuh
I'll pass
 
Also overloading to just do nothing seems like a terrible idea
 
@Jeffrey Stays the same always, so always has the compile-time value.
 
@OllieFord You are on desktop, right?
 
2:28 PM
Allows set, as in no exception, but it is non-functioning, when read again it would have whatever before the 'set'
@Jefffrey Yes
 
@ScottW woo great who cares
 
@CatPlusPlus I see you've rumbled my terrible failings at UTC :P
 
@OllieFord Every message has an arrow on the right, can you see it?
(except your messages)
 
fear not! Daylight ends... or starts soon, so I think I'll be back on time.
 
@Jefffrey I see it
 
2:29 PM
Great.
Always use that when replying to messages.
 
oooh
 
Give him the gif.
 
Xeo
Too late, he already found it
 
then if you hover the messages it does the thing
 
@Jefffrey Can't believe I've never noticed it
 
user1804599
2:30 PM
Hmm.
 
user1804599
A friend offered to buy me a choker.
 
Xeo
uh lala
With a bell?
 
@OllieFord Ok, now. What are As and Bs in your logic?
 
I've used arrow-down -> reply to this message sometimes, but so much effort only when reading through a backlog
 
user1804599
@Xeo just a choker.
 
user1804599
2:30 PM
Not specific.
 
what's a choker?
ow
I see
 
@ScottW Not really
 
user1804599
Something that makes you choke if you attempt to swallow it.
 
@ScottW Maybe he cared at the beginning
 
Xeo
lol
 
2:31 PM
I've stopped like 2 years ago
 
Xeo
@rightføld Did he at least include an offer for nekomimi?
 
user1804599
No :'(
 
Xeo
Bad friend
 
I'm not being productive
 
user1804599
throw bad_friend();
 
2:32 PM
@Jefffrey That's not surprising when you're here
 
user1804599
#define toss throw
toss dwarf;
 
@TonyTheLion eh
 
@Jefffrey Don't worry, I guess I'll just go with a bool allowSet constructor, so that they're all As, and no overload of the set, just if(allowSet)
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey I have done a whole lot of nothing in the last 6 hours.
 
@Jefffrey you're in denial, aren't you?
 
Xeo
2:33 PM
And I'll go home in 30mins.
 
@TonyTheLion kinda
this project is making me hate programming
 
@Xeo Kinda like me, but in the last 6 days
 
I've played boardgames.
 
Xeo
At least I'm getting paid for doing nothing.
 
@Jefffrey yep, the feels, I know them
 
Xeo
2:34 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Same!
Oh btw @R.MartinhoFernandes, funny situation in our D&D session on Sunday
 
boardgames always bored me
buh
unfortunately thats true
 
@TonyTheLion maybe you play wrong ones
 
Monopoly
comes to mind
 
I want to play AD&D but I don't have who to play with
 
Xeo
We reached the boss of the current subplot, a Bogeyman, that had three minions with him, and who didn't want to fight us directly. So our inquisitor, with increadible diplomacy skill, convinced the Bogeyman to have a 1v1 with him.
 
2:37 PM
@AlexM. Have you heard about the internet
 
Xeo
The Bogeyman has initiative and opens up with an instant-cast Phantasmal Killer.
 
How do "Stack Snippets" relate to coliru?
 
@CatPlusPlus I want to play IRL
 
They don't
 
Xeo
Our inquisitor was being controller by a telepathic cape at that time, managed the will save, and turned the killer back on the Bogeyman
 
2:38 PM
@rubenvb coliru was created by StackedCrooked
Stack Snippets contains Stack
StackedCrooked contains Stack
 
lol
 
mystery solved
 
snack snippets on snack overflow
 
I mean they're code fragments that can be run, and it's a network-based thing.
 
Xeo
The Bogeyman failed both saves - quickest boss fight evar.
 
2:39 PM
It's just JS
 
I'm a nun, I can't get married
 
Xeo
Friggin Bogeyman died of fear. Twas hilarious.
 
I think
I don't know religion
 
You might want to disclose this detail to rightfold
 
@rightføld I cannot be your waifu
 
2:43 PM
I think banana.
With chocolate
in the oven
would be good.
 
It is good
 
@Xeo I've had barbarian rages, charges, rolls confirmed critical, rolls max damage, black dragon out.
 
Xeo
lol
 
@ScottW ... if LRiO was here, he'd have told you that they're called crisps
 
Xeo
with a single attack? nice.
 
2:44 PM
... I kinda miss him
 
Xeo
what was the crit multiplier?
 
Xeo
nice
 
user1804599
@ScottW lekker
 
@AlexM. Me too
 
Xeo
2:45 PM
Friend of mine got x3-critted during a small 1h session at the Spielemesse this year - he had a magus, with... 39 HP or something, and the beast critted for 59.
And he was already down 15
 
Jan 19 at 2:45, by Lightness Races in Orbit
user image
 
There's no kill like overkill
 
How can you say "fuck him" to a face like that
 
reminds me of teletubbies
 
@Jefffrey such stupid look
 
2:46 PM
He has a cute/sad look
 
>_<
 
He is whispering "I'm fragile just like you all are"
"I just wish you guys loved me"
 
that's gay.
 
oh come on abyx
 
@Xeo An adult black dragon has 199 hp.
 
2:48 PM
hi all
need a little help
 
you ruined the atmosphere
 
we all do
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes what was your level?
 
@AliAshiq and? we don't give a damn
 
@AliAshiq SSCCE please
 
2:49 PM
@Xeo over 9000
 
@AliAshiq no
 
(look how polite I am)
 
:(
 
@AliAshiq I'll try to help you if you question is not boring and you provide an SSCCE
 
SSCCEE means
 
2:50 PM
huge wall of code
 
@Xeo I was the DM. CR is 11, so I guess 10-12.
 
@AliAshiq means "at least google SSCCE"
 
^ that
 
what does that even...
 
int StringLen(char stringinput[])
This function calculates the length of the string that is given to it and returns the total number of characters in it.
e.g. string input: IDIOSYNCRASY
sample output: 12
 
2:50 PM
that's not how you do SSCCE
 
@Jefffrey :(
 
Cool story
 
@AliAshiq ok
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. I'm barely getting my crits to ~65 at level 14, with a x2 multiplier. Most of that is from power attack + attribute mod being multiplied.
 
@AliAshiq so what's the problem?
 
2:51 PM
@Xeo Oh, yeah, he also power-attacked to the max.
 
i have to write a code
 
Xeo
I got +8 attribute mod, +1 exorcist weapon, +15 power attack, 1d10 + 2d6. Best I can do is 71 if I got the math right
 
@AliAshiq That function can be written in 3 lines of code
maybe 4
 
a programming
 
Xeo
2:52 PM
well, with smite evil I can do... 14 more.
 
1 var declaration, 2 lines for the while loop and 1 line to return
 
and i have tried this pastie.org/9665301
 
lol
 
Xeo
@ScottW The war declaration is on the C-style string.
 
1 small nation, 3 goats, a dark blood ritual
 
2:55 PM
@AliAshiq You are calling find_length but you have only declared StringLen; that's not how you use std::cout; you are not importing <iostream>;
NEEEXT
 
someone should make a code editor that uses DirectX surfaces
and characters are in fact 3D models
with AA and tesselation
actually, that would be pretty awesome with Oculus Rift
you'd even be able to do some quick gaming while coding in 3D
like, shoot the fscanf
 
@AliAshiq Here. HTH
 
@Jefffrey go away you damn vampire feeder
 
lol
 

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