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4:00 PM
First off, the nature of "value" when talking about a video game is vague.
 
Just use Bad Rats as a baseline
 
@caps But yeah, door prizes are really scary. And as happens way too often, the cause is someone behaving as if they are the only person around and acting without being aware of their surroundings :(
 
AAA games are 60$ because they've always been 60$. DLCs are 10$ because they've always been 10$. A game has to have 4 DLC packs, so season passes are 30$ because that way they can say you get 25% off.
 
AA games are 60$ worth of booze
 
@EtiennedeMartel Parodies that are original, best parodies.
 
4:02 PM
Major publishers fear that if they deviate from that, it will lead to a slippery slope of price slashing.
So they put a 60$ price tag even if they could make more profits by selling it at a lower price.
 
This in turn leads to the culture of "I'll wait until it's on sale", and trying to guess how much a game is worth.
 
Ugh we'll have to figure out price point for our game
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sounds to me like anticompetitive monopoly-style behaviour.
@EtiennedeMartel To be fair, Steam had their hand in that by holding regular ridiculous sales.
 
Buying AAA on launch is silly
 
4:04 PM
Which, again, is stupid. If you get 80 hours of boring gameplay, is that worth more than a tight five hour long experience that will stick with you in the dead of night?
 
I only bought 4 games @ full price
AC2, MW2, Wasteland 2 and now Witcher 3
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't see what that has to do with anything else in the conversation.
 
What bugs me is the "games these days are worth less because of DLCs" mindset.
 
Not only they're overpriced, they also never fucking launch without bugs and issues with their shitty online DRM crap
 
I had fun in MW2 multiplayer so I don't regret it
 
4:04 PM
@Cicada lol
 
@AlexM. I had fun in MW2 multiplayer until I started actually playing the game.
 
I switched to MW3 after some < 300 hours of MW2
because I had won MW3 at the steam winter giveaway
 
And you didn't notice any difference
 
@CatPlusPlus MW3 ran smoother
but overall yeah no difference
 
4:06 PM
MW2 1.1
 
@EtiennedeMartel Personally I don't have a problem with any sort of DLC. As long as the user knows what they're buying and for what price, I don't see how DLC really changes anything.
 
@Puppy Reddit is dumb, that's my point.
 
We knew that
 
fair enough.
I was already fully aware that Reddit is dumb.
 
I felt like I needed to get stuff off my chest.
 
4:07 PM
I'm so hyped for witcher 3
 
fair enough.
 
two more weeks damnit
 
@AlexM. Yes, but you're inferior.
:P
 
no I'm not :P
 
btw Etienne have you seen my friend's and me game thing
 
4:07 PM
@AlexM. Ah, The Witcher, this product of Polish national pride.
 
personally
I think that my days of buying AAA games are pretty much over.
 
@CatPlusPlus The thing that got greenlit?
 
you can find far better far cheaper games from indie.
 
Well it's not greenlit yet
 
not that they don't have their own problems...
 
well that looks god-awful.
 
@CatPlusPlus That looks dumb as hell.
 
it looks like Worms but shit.
 
I wonder how much time you can play that without feeling bored.
 
It's Liero more than Worms
 
4:09 PM
never played
 
@EtiennedeMartel Tis a party game
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, I figured as much. Get drunk, shoot rabbits.
 
Also physics-driven
 
@CatPlusPlus Terrible games for terrible situations.
somewhat fitting I guess.
 
@EtiennedeMartel it's great
and the world seems familiar
 
4:10 PM
Killing yourself with high velocity health packs will never not be funny
 
romanian folklore obviously != polish folklore
 
@CatPlusPlus It's not funny right now.
 
but I can spot bits that resemble stuff I know from traditional stories and stuff
 
@Puppy You need to get more friends
 
I spent all of yesterday playing with friends.
 
4:11 PM
@Puppy I don't know. Most of the games I enjoy today are AAA titles.
 
Is that code for masturbating?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes, but you're inferior. ;p
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
Cally executed me before revealing as a Cylon.
 
Just checking.
 
I can't believe that happened to me twice in a row.
 
@Puppy I got to 250 hours of play with Civ5 a few weeks ago.
 
4:12 PM
@Puppy Ha, you suck.
 
and my sister became the Pragmiral.
 
the Pragmiral.
 
Is this the BSG board game?
 
it's when you're the President, the CAG, and the Admiral all at the same time.
yes.
 
4:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I have 322 logged hours in TW:R2.
 
upon reflection, I might conclude that the Total War games have always sucked, and I was simply too young to notice before.
 
Your loss.
Man, those 322 hours of fun.
 
only 322?
you lightweight.
 
I've been playing Mass Effect a lot lately
 
322 is pretty low
 
4:16 PM
my highest-played games are all in the thousands
 
It's weird how they mix shooting and talking
 
and that was years ago
 
a mate in my list keeps on playing Rome TW since forever
 
@Puppy Unlike you, I've had a job for several years.
 
before his profile went private I believe he had like 2k hours logged
 
4:16 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I got the thousands before any of that stuff started for me :p
 
(the first RTW)
 
lol. 'two mains' is back! 'http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30034649/link-and-call-two-separate-mains'
 
@Mr.kbok I started playing ME now
11 hours into the first
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Le zing.
 
@AlexM. What do you think?
 
4:17 PM
hmm
 
I like it but the combat is easy
 
I should finish ME2 maybe
 
Did you get to romance the blue girl yet
 
I played ME for about an hour and then concluded that it sucked terrifically
but I can't quite remember why I decided that.
 
I keep playing with the sniper rifle
 
4:17 PM
Because you have no taste :v
 
and peeking corners is easy
I even get noscopes
@Mr.kbok I don't want that :(
I want Cali or w/e her name is
 
welp
 
Combat in ME is mostly tedious and a filler
 
@AlexM. You have to be a bit reckless to get some challenge because the IA is not aggressive enough
 
Anyway, I'm pretty sure I have a scary amount of hours of NetHack gameplay from before I started working.
 
4:18 PM
oh wait
 
It was almost the only game I played for several years.
 
@Mr.kbok right, Tali
 
I have terrible taste, the game doesn't suck terrifically, it's just that the core gameplay is tedious and a filler?
 
@AlexM. The tech girl? I'm not sure you can do that
 
you can in ME2 and 3
 
4:19 PM
interesting position.
 
2 days ago, by Alex M.
mass effect is cool and all but why the hell do I have to wait until I start mass effect 2 to have sex with the character I want to have sex with oh my god EA is so bad
 
I agree, ME is boring.
 
@Mr.kbok I keep choosing the blue girl when going out though
 
Combat is a filler in most RPGs
 
because she can levitate people
and I can flick shoot them with my AWP
 
4:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus Nah, not true. It's the whole game in some.
 
Overdone filler!
 
@Mr.kbok what's your overall fav character though?
 
@CatPlusPlus An excellent reason that those RPGs are shit.
 
@AlexM. but Tali has sick AoEs
 
unless they offer some other compelling gameplay, I guess.
Portal the RPG?
 
4:21 PM
I think Garrus is the best character
from all perspectives
 
Story and the world and characters and stuff are important
@AlexM. Yes
 
For combat, Garrus, for the character, the dinosaur guy
 
@CatPlusPlus Only in JRPGs.
 
too bad I don't really agree with his "fuck the rules" attitude at all times
 
I like how he kills the nightclub dude
 
4:22 PM
@CatPlusPlus Except none of that is actually gameplay.
 
but that just helps with the character's depth
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, in JRPGs it's just worse grind
 
unless you want to argue that the gameplay in the RPG is "You go around and chat to people".
 
@Puppy I see you subscribe to the "gameplay and narrative should stay in different rooms at all time" school of thought.
 
@Puppy I'd be fine with that
 
4:23 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Not really.
I just think that it doesn't matter in the slightest what narrative you have if you can't make the gameplay work.
 
shit I think I'll go play some more ME now
 
I find navigating dialog trees quite boring too.
 
@Mr.kbok did you finish the atomic bomb mission?
 
I don't think I've seen an RPG where combat would be fun and not getting in the way
 
And to be honest, most RPG stories are not that interesting.
 
4:24 PM
@AlexM. Nope
 
I think it's clear that the best games merge narrative and gameplay, but if you can't do that, the only thing you can do is just make a fun game.
you can't have a game which is 100 hours of tedious grind and then some narrative and make a good game.
 
@Puppy RuneScape
 
Can i teach programming to my 8 year old brpther who doesnt speak english?
 
lol MMOs are not good games
 
I find that in RPGs the personality of your enemies and friends is more important than the story itself
 
4:25 PM
@CatPlusPlus Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex (and HR) and SS2 all had fine combat I think.
 
@khajvah yes, jsut tell him the keywords mean specific actions. like "if" means "si esto occure" if you're a spanish speaker, etc.
 
@fredoverflow I believe that should give unsigned long, but I'd have to look it up to be entirely certain. Integer types are ranked, and the rank of a result has to be at least as high as the higher of the ranks of the two inputs. Regardless of equal size, long always has a higher rank than int.
 
I think all characters in ME are likeable except the pink girl who's a bitch
 
what pink girl
 
Ok he knows some english words. I will try python
 
4:27 PM
actually I'm thinking back about RPG-like games and DX:HR is the only one that I can name that really had fairly fun gameplay.
 
@CatPlusPlus the old infinity engine games
 
it wasn't amazing but it was reasonably good.
 
and for non-infinity engine games: ToEE
 
and fortunately, I learned how to exploit the boss battles quickly so didn't have to spend much time on them
 
4:27 PM
but that's really an AD&D campaign placed in a video game 1:1
 
@AlexM. I never really got what's so good about ToEE.
 
the combat
 
The only thing from DXHR combat I remember is crappy bullet sponge bosses
 
@AlexM. Really?
 
the full turn based combat that Baldur's Gate and the rest don't have
 
4:28 PM
The rest fades away
 
@AlexM. It's D&D3.5.
 
so it's not AD&D?
ok good to know
 
@AlexM. Same thing, different editions
 
Nah.
AD&D is quite different.
@AlexM. I guess I got too worn out by that combat system on the table to be able to enjoy it on PC.
 
overall though BG & co make for a more memorable experience, obviously
especially because of the narrator's work
 
4:31 PM
P sure they just dropped A from the name at some point
Turn-based combat always takes forever to get through
 
BG2 is especially memorable because of the bad guy (see where I mentioned about the personalities of the enemies and friends being important) youtube.com/watch?v=Hk0sOGVSAP4
 
I liked that Arcanum had game-breaking magic thing that let you basically skip every combat encounter
 
@AlexM. Ashley? I think
 
@Mr.kbok I killed her because I didn't want a source of alien hate in my ship
well not myself but I chose to sacrifice her for a mission
 
You can do that
How far exactly did you go in 10hrs of gameplay
 
4:35 PM
I don't know but I did stuff on 3 planets so far
I killed two of my original squad actually
 
How can I checkout master if another branch that I'm currently maintaining locally is ahead of master by one commit
 
Uh, that doesn't matter?
Just checkout idk
 
@CatPlusPlus When I do git checkout --force master
It says "Already on master"
Which doesn't make sense, because I'm having a branch which is ahead of master
 
Tip: don't use --force if you don't know what you're doing
On any command
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't know what I'm doing
HELP
I FUCKING HATE GIT
 
4:38 PM
If it says you're on master, then you're on master
git status shows current branch
 
@CatPlusPlus I must please master
 
@Mr.kbok I also killed Wrex
 
You mean origin/master maybe
 
You can have however many branches you want in a repo, that one of them is ahead of master doesn't matter
 
@CatPlusPlus What I really wanna do is "rollback"
 
4:38 PM
sometimes I really don't like the way the game makes you choose
 
@AlexM. How?
 
Rollback what to what
 
@Mr.kbok THAT WAS IT
Finally
 
Yeah probably not but have fun
 
@Mr.kbok Saren wants to get an army of race(Wrex) to help him and this means he found a cure to something that was used to keep race(Wrex) at bay
 
4:39 PM
@CatPlusPlus git checkout origin/master did exactly what I wanted
 
when you get there and Wrex finds out that you want to destroy the cure he gets really mad
 
I have no idea why, but it worked, so fuck it
 
@CatPlusPlus From memory, AD&D is D&D 2e, effectively.
 
I was not able to convince him to stop
 
Did it say you're on detached head
 
4:40 PM
try to level up your dialogue skills if you want to keep him
maybe it'll work
 
Oh I have dialoge maxed out at all times
lol dialoge
 
I mean it has to work because he's also a character in ME2 and 3
so there must be a way to not kill him
 
help him
 
> GRIDSERVERDISTRIBUTIONService::GRIDSERVERSERVICEGroup::getTASKCount
 
Always have angry points
 
4:42 PM
whyyy
 
I don't think I even used any combat skills ever in ME
 
I think I finally found out why people at work use weird enum-based initialization
void initialize(libraryenum lib)
{
	switch(lib)
	{
		case(lib1):...
		case(lib2):...
	}
}
because they're all singletons and some must be initialized before others
 
> if one operand has type long int and the other has type unsigned int, if a long int can represent all values of an unsigned int, the operand of type unsigned int is converted to long int ; if a long int cannot represent all the values of an unsigned int, both operands are converted to unsigned long int.
Interesting, so the sum of two large types can be an even larger type.
 
it's like "lib2 must be initialized after lib3 because lib2 uses lib3::GetInstance() and it needs to be initialized or BOOM
 
4:45 PM
Shitcode
 
yeah it's really scary
these "rules" are passed on by authors and just one de-sync leads to hard to spot bugs
especially with the habit of returning some default value instead of asserting when the lib is not initialized but is called
 
@AlexM. Because defining them in the same translation unit is overrated somehow.
noobs
 
god this code looks like it's been written by a maniac
	char buffer1[1000];
	char buffer2[1000];
	char buffer3[1000];
	char buffer4[1000];
 
another noobs
Who approved these guys to do programming?
 
Ven
blogs.remobjects.com/blogs/mh/2015/04/30/p7066 <- interesting if you like swift
 
4:55 PM
I should get the Far Cry 4 DLC and play them
heard it's like another 4+ hours of shooting in a new world
but uplay >.<
 
user3010322
I hope they change that.
 
user3010322
string_view not being able to mutate elements with operator[] is kind've really stupid.
 
srsly use arrows
 

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