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12:01 AM
ooh hang on, "highly regarded". cool
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that guy from meta seems to have gotten you fairly excited about the topic :D today
 
It keeps coming up
I started the conversation zero times
^ awesome
 
^idd not bad
gonna kick it on my spotify playlist
 
Can't :(
Just tried
 
wtf has ubuntu 15.04 done my spotify won't start -.-
 
12:11 AM
If i had space left on my hdd how easy would it be to add a crypto swap partition?
it keeps creating one when i boot and its annoying
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I've found Within Temptation very inconsistant
Silent force was good... but their other album last I looked was just ok
 
I can't even remember which tracks I like, but I know there are some.
Ah yeah, they're on The Silent Force. Figures.
lol
the SFJ are gonna go nuts over these gender roles
SJW*
 
12:29 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why do ppl care so much about the royal baby?
 
@Borgleader I have no idea. I know that @Puppy is particularly fascinated by the royal family and follows their lives closely.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't have spotify
I guess I'm too kermudgeony
 
@Mgetz evil being be gone
how can you not have spotify :(
 
@deW1 I don't listen to Pop in general
 
me neither only Rock, Metal
 
12:36 AM
most of my music comes from places like ocremix.org
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think someone (or more than one) has conflated your avatar use with another user who uses pictures of women for their avatar and makes that exact claim in their profile. Tough old world. — Bill Woodger 2 mins ago
Interesting.
 
-1
Q: complex makefile (g++5, freebsd)

Cosmin IovanSoo, here is my makefile : BIN = ../libsql.a CXX = g++5 CFLAGS = -O2 -pipe -mtune=i686 -D_THREAD_SAFE -fno-exceptions default: @echo 'Compiling AsyncSQL'; $(CXX) $(CFLAGS) -c AsyncSQL.cpp @echo 'Compiling Semaphore'; $(CXX) $(CFLAGS) -c Semaphore.cpp @echo 'Compiling Tel...

 
Well your not really "helping" with "problems" in my code. I suggest you at least try to do that. How do I write this function? — Zero 1 min ago
ho boy
@CosminIovan You spammed that here already. Stop.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit And it's not allowed?
 
Then what the hell is this stupid site for. If it isn't for helping new people like me. What the F***? Then what's the point of this website. — Zero 4 mins ago
Artful
 
12:42 AM
@CosminIovan no it's not
 
It's allowed one time per day ?
Orrrr?
 
Apr 24 at 14:46, by Etienne de Martel
New here? Read our rules and everything will go smoothly.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit time to close
 
@CosminIovan let me tell you the secret of makefiles, nobody ever writes a new one. They just copy an old one and make it work. Or they use CMAKE or equivalents
 
shame about the spoonfeeding
 
12:47 AM
@Mgetz I tried with cmake, and works. But i have a only prooblem
When i link executable with original makefile it has size 6mn
mb
With cmake he have 20mb
:( And all flag it's set correct.
 
@Rapptz That kid's a total punk
@Rapptz Yeah; ruined the whole message :(
lol now he's arguing that "rageful" doesn't exist.
You just don't know when to shut up . . . do you? — Zero 1 min ago
His parents must be so proud
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I may have pointed it out to meta... which just nuke the question
 
@Mgetz oh please don't draw attention to it; I took the bait and I was kinda hoping to keep that quiet :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit eh... it's already been deleted
the mods were as impressed with the OP as you were
 
excellent
lol
his account has gone
he's literally been erased from SO
raging round about now I imagine
 
1:02 AM
oh wow
 
thanks Bolty
 
??
 
he's watching
lurking
stalking the night
 
do you guys know Lua?
 
I used to date her yeah
the only Lua I've done is a Wireshark dissector a few weeks ago
 
1:08 AM
for k,v in pairs(_valid_types) do
    print(k,v)
end

Class{'Dog', name = String, friend = Cat, gender = Gender}
_valid_types is a global list of types, Class and Enum append to that list, and check attribute types against that list.
Somehow, the output of that print loop and the output from Class seem to be interleaved, and the types Class sees in the list
are also randomly different each run..and I'm a bit confused
 
doesn't look very testcasey
 
Ell
I'm dying
And not due to alcohol this time
 
@Ell you should seek medical attention then, we are not doctors
 
@melak47 ya fucked up
 
@melak47 this design
 
1:19 AM
I only added the global list for debugging this crap
 
bloody hell it's C++ assignment weekend in some part of the world
 
@melak47 Do you get the expected output if you don’t have the Class call after the loop?
 
@Mgetz Speak for yourself. I am Dr Orbit.
 
Probably India.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit end of term in the US... so final projects
 
1:20 AM
@Rapptz Dat traditional Indian name "Jack Powell"
 
Ven
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oooooh, alright
 
@LucDanton I get the expected output in both cases (i.e. the list contains all the types it should), but the output is interleaved with Class'es
 
that Zero guy got his answer and deleted his account and question
 
lol
 
@melak47 Did you try a delimiter (e.g. print("-----------")) between the loop and call to make sure?
 
1:22 AM
print debugging best debugging?
 
@Rapptz It looks more like he got nuked from SE by SE
You can't delete an account that quickly on your own
 
@Rapptz Well, for debugging print statements it’s fair game.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wouldn't know
 
@Rapptz never seen those "please delete me" folks?
 
I assume those are people unaware of the process.
Like me.
 
1:23 AM
@LucDanton alright, to be more precise: the explicit output appears in the correct order
 
@melak47 Oh no!
 
@Rapptz Nope; they are people who are aware of the process, which includes emailing support asking for deletion :)
I can't prove it or be sure, but he vanished in mere moments and there must have been a ton of flags on his question so
 
I make some calls to error() though, and seem happen in the middle of the loop's output, even though they're invoked in Class
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit my linking it on the tavern probably didn't help either
 
1:29 AM
@melak47 Have you tried flushing before doing the debug thing?
 
@AlexM. I'm still at a relatives house.
I should be home tomorrow afternoon.
 
@Ell From what?
@Rapptz Yes.
 
hm, ok, problem was something else.
 
1:44 AM
figures
> Gender
 
possible values are male, female and undetermined :p
 
@melak47 how tri-gendered of you
 
it's the test case supplied by my instructor
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Come on Tars!
 
Page 76
really getting bored of it now
 
1:59 AM
in case youre wondering, i just finished watching Interstellar (again, i bought it on bluray and it arrived on thursday)
 
@melak47 That last one sounds like a challenge.
 
hey let's talk about GENDER ROLES!
 
it's only used for Cat and Dog, please calm down
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm sorry, page 76 of what?
 
@Jefffrey dude
 
2:10 AM
That lesbian thing?
 
Apr 27 at 18:41, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
@Jefffrey http://lingerielesbian.tumblr.com VNSFW
lol yeah
 
what?
 
You have a problem man.
 
@melak47 Not as much of a challenge as chick sexing.
 
@Jefffrey He needs more TARS in his life
 
2:11 AM
why do you like that site so much
actually
 
@Jefffrey What problem is that?
 
how much time do you spend looking at pictures of girls on the internet
 
@AlexM. I don't: as I said just a moment ago, I'm pretty bored of it.
@AlexM. usually not much
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit With an average of 15 pics per page (15 at least on the first one), you have watched a total of ~1140 pics about tits and pussies of all over the world.
You tell me what problem is that.
 
That's pretty normal
You've never heard of porn?
 
2:13 AM
I only open porn when I feel like fapping :\
otherwise I don't because it's distracting
 
Say you have spent 10 seconds per pic, you lost 3.16 hours on that.
 
Oh nowhere near 10 seconds per pic
Scrolled straight through most of it
inb4 star
 
Oh ok. Then everything is ok.
 
I'd have starred if it was sth like "nowhere near 10 seconds per pic, I last longer than that bub"
 
@Jefffrey Glad I meet your approval
What Jefffrey thinks is of top importance to me in general
3
 
2:15 AM
I know bby
Aaaaand feminism. Of course (NSFW).
 
you're like a virus carrier atm
the feminism crap doesn't affect you
 
Okay I'm calling it at 100 of 809
 
but you're spreading it around
 
@Jefffrey lol yeah saw that earlier - would have been great on meta this morning ;p
@AlexM. lol
 
You should have made a folder of the top 100 pics from that, and then shared that one.
So that we don't have to get addicted ourselves.
You would be like a hero.
Also everyone is so mean to me today. What did I do?
 
2:22 AM
It's not what you did, it's how you didn't do it.
 
Publicly accusing me of trolling while I was being body-shamed and sexually harassed wasn't the best start to your day.
 
@Jefffrey I just think the solution to that stuff is for people to ignore it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
i.e. "lol look at this feminism crap" only makes it grow in popularity
shit it's almost morning
 
That's actually correct. It's probably the origin of it all.
 
2:23 AM
I gotta sleep
 
Yeah, me too. Good night.
 
yes feminism started by someone pointing out feminism
night kids
 
night mom
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Don't go gentle into that good night
 
2:25 AM
@LucDanton alright, the actual problem is solved. the unsynced output of print() and error() is still kind of a nitpick, though. tried io.stdout:flush() but see no difference :/
 
Meanwhile, in Haskell-land: I’m getting errors using Cabal. Googling around suggests that’s because I’m not using a recent enough cabal. Guess what I was in fact trying to upgrade?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Night.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Took a while for you to respond to my quotes
anyway, nn
 
I was distracted by Jefffrex
oh god are you all leaving?
 
No.
 
2:27 AM
only you
 
I'm not leaving
 
I was saying goodnight to you :P
 
> night kids
 
4 mins ago, by Alex M.
I gotta sleep
4 mins ago, by Jefffrey
Yeah, me too. Good night.
 
ohhhhhhh
 
2:28 AM
It's a good thing we're all really great at communication in here
 
What? I can't hear you!
 
Koality joke
 
@LucDanton I guess it's because print goes to stdout, and error goes to stderr. tried setting buffering modes on both, flushing both, but no difference. eh.
 
@melak47 You can peek at the output of just the one end.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit As always.
@AlexM. No, he was not.
 
2:33 AM
@LucDanton not sure what that means. seems to behave fine if I run from console instead of Atom though
 
I dunno what happened to him, he disappeared shortly after Christmas.
 
People die
hth
 
I think cicada's theory is proper
the guy lived in Aus
a plant probably plotted to kill him for ages
night
 
Guise my internet is acting up.
 
NSA is after you!
 
2:40 AM
Anyway, my theory is that the Lounge was taking too much of his time, and his new years resolution was to stop.
@chmod711telkitty The NSA and I are good friends.
They backup my data for me.
 
I wonder whether NSA has a data centre
 
@melak47 foo 2>/dev/null that sort of stuff.
 
oh.
 
> onpaste="return false;"
:c
 
2:50 AM
I don't html, what does that do?
 
It doesn't allow pasting in that password input
 
guess they don't like keepass :p
 
And what's beautiful is that they have a pop up that recommends that I don't use passwords from other websites, that I include at least a capital letter, a symbol, and a space and bla bla bla
And then they disable pasting into it.
They deserve all my wrath. I'm going to open a ticket, and show them.
Why do you need my phone number for opening a ticket???
Dear lord they are so bad at this thing
 
@Nooble That's also possible. But the christmas / new year time is when most accidents happen (due to alcohol consumption I guess). So my theory is not unfounded either.
 
2:59 AM
I installed GHC to install cabal-install to install caball-install. All good.
 
MIDI lets you play the gunshot.
11
Q: Why were sound effects like the gunshot included in the General MIDI (GM) standard?

DomI recently learned about the general MIDI standard and one thing that I cannot understand is the last sound effect is always a gunshot. Most of the other effects like applause, telephone ring, and bird tweets make sense and I've heard in several different songs, but I don't think I've ever heard ...

 
3:21 AM
Oh Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is on.
 
@Cinch have they started yet
 
3:55 AM
Here we go! @Jeremy
 
Nice. I can't update my Win 10 install, because it tries to to create a recovery image of C: on C: and I have less than 50% free. Awesome.
 
@Cinch where arey ou watching it
 
@Jeremy at home
 
ppv?
or not us...
 
I think
@melak47 better emancipate your hard drive
 
3:58 AM
whut?
 
@melak47 it's a slavery reference
 
@Rapptz do you maintain any sort of MSVC compatability in gears?
 
no
 
I just tried to compile libop using MSVC
TIL MSVC has no constexpr, noexcept, etc
 
I know for a fact it doesn't work
No expression SFINAE, no constexpr
no two phase lookup probably affects some things I use
 
4:00 AM
I thought MSVC had stepped up their game
 
noexcept is in VS 2015
 
guess I was wrong
 
you're probably using VS 2013
only major thing missing in 2015 is what I listed above
 
ye
also tried 2012
 
2012 is what made me stop using VS
 
4:34 AM
A 12 monitor stand. I wonder how big it is.
 
looks like it's for 4:3 / 5:4 screens
or vertical 16:9?
 
4:52 AM
Aw Merryweather won
 
who cares
 
Floyd Mayweather is a wanker
 
5:32 AM
And now a library requires a particular executable but decides not to list it amongst its dependencies. For 'convenience' I assume.
 
6:05 AM
I’ve had two packages fail to build in a row with GHC 7.10 because they each roll their own State or StateT and don’t provide an Applicative instance (or even Functor, in one case).
 
6:17 AM
> -- Since we cannot specify that only Setup.hs depends on mtl, we include StateT here.
._.
 
6:28 AM
And that happens in Setup.hs. So it doesn’t even fail to build—it fails to configure.
> This module should import only modules that will be present in all Haskell implementations, including modules of the Cabal library.
Cabal docs on Setup.hs. I guess I can’t really blame the maintainer this time.
 
> I once knew a couple where the husband constantly introduced his wife as his second wife. She then referred to him as her first husband, stressing the word first, and he stopped.
 
6:50 AM
Also mornin
laff that avatar guy
 
7:49 AM
> You registered on WordPress.com 8 years ago!
 
Ven
8:27 AM
yer a blogger, harry
 
user1804599
9:07 AM
Hello.
 
@rightfold I read an article in "The Best of Software Writing" the other day, and it reminded me how much time we waste hating Java instead of actually getting stuff done:
> The identification and vilification of external enemies. This is a very common pattern. Anyone who was around the Open Source movement in the mid-Nineties could see this all the time. If you cared about Linux on the desktop, there was a big list of jobs to do. But you could always instead get a conversation going about Microsoft and Bill Gates. And people would start bleeding from their ears, they would get so mad.
> If you want to make it better, there's a list of things to do. It's Open Source, right? Just fix it. "No, no, Microsoft and Bill Gates grrrrr ...", the froth would start coming out. The external enemy -- nothing causes a group to galvanize like an external enemy.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Why is he complaining about people who waste time by attacking external enemies instead of getting stuff done?
 
sorry for the rudeness of the URL
 
9:23 AM
Oh look, another comparison "Rust is better than C++ because I don't know C++".
 
@fredoverflow I would likely not be feeling like working on Wide instead of bashing Java.
 
bashing Java is a durr-I-feel-brainless-right-now activity most of the time.
 
@Cicada that's how politics work
"my side > your side, mainly because I agree with my side and I don't agree/never listened to your side"
 
user1804599
@Cicada sounds like the puppy
 
9:24 AM
> and of course the universal constructor
 
AAAAAARGH fucking GPG disabled pasting on pinentry
 
cedarntry
 
Also 2.1 segfaults on every secret key operation so that's great too
 
user1804599
@melak47 In Perl you can say UNIVERSAL->new.
 
user1804599
UNIVERSAL is the universal base class.
 
9:26 AM
@MarcoA. the fuck is this, a text encoding to those 6 chars, or actually valid js that does some fuckery?
 
@melak47 I suppose it's valid Js
or at least that's what they claim
 
I just pasted that alert(1) into the js console, and it works
 
indeed it does.
 
user1804599
@melak47 it works because [] cast to a string is the empty string. ![] is false, which when cast to a string is the string "false", etc.
 
user1804599
So (![]+[])[+[]] is "f".
 
user1804599
9:28 AM
!![] is true, which when added to something is 1.
 
user1804599
So !![] + !![] is 2.
 
user1804599
[][![]]+[] is "undefined". You can get lots of letters this way.
 
but if all you can produce is strings, how do you make the call to eval to eval this crap
 
@rightfold Let's bash Brendan instead of getting stuff done, shall we?
 
who is brandon?
 
9:31 AM
lol, third time's the charm
 
oh, typo
 
user1804599
who is brendan?
 
Typo Negative
 
Ven
@rightfold github.com/Heather/idris-unicode get APL in idris
 
Brendan Eich (/ˈaɪk/; born 1961) is an American technologist and creator of the JavaScript programming language. He co-founded the Mozilla project, the Mozilla Foundation and the Mozilla Corporation, and served as the Mozilla Corporation's chief technical officer and briefly its chief executive officer. == Early life == Brendan Eich received his bachelor's degree in mathematics and computer science at Santa Clara University. He received his master's degree in 1985 from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Eich started his career at Silicon Graphics, working for seven years on operating...
 
user1804599
9:32 AM
@Ven Idris is terrible.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow oh lol
 
I thought the creator of js was Douglas Crockford
 
user1804599
I wrote a VM in JS yesterday.
 
or whatshisname
 
@JohanLarsson that's json, no?
 
9:33 AM
maybe
 
@JohanLarsson Douglas Crockford only invented the good parts of JavaScript ;)
 
Ven
@rightfold oh,why?
 
lol
 
Ven
@melak47 yeah, it is
 
user1804599
@Ven to get stackful coroutines.
 
Ven
9:34 AM
@rightfold well, it has the same tools as haskell in that regard
 
user1804599
Yes Haskell has forkIO.
 
user1804599
(Thank God. Imagine the async movement hitting Haskell that'd be horrible; even more monad stacks.)
 
I read somewhere that Haskell Curry did not have a computer to try some of his stuff on
 
Haskell Curry was a logician. He did not invent Haskell the programming language, if that's what you're implying ;)
 
Xeo
mornin
 
user1804599
9:36 AM
Maybe because he invented stuff before computers existed.
 
Pretty decent to have both firstname & lastname naming significant things
 
@rightfold Well, he died in the eighties.
 
user1804599
Many people did!
 
@rightfold Other examples?
 
user1804599
9:38 AM
Leonid Brezhnev.
 
user1804599
Yuri Andropov.
 
my girlfriend prevents me from being RESTful
 
user1804599
70,000 Salvadorans died.
 
she wants you to use soap?
 
user1804599
On August 19, 1980, Saudia Flight 163 caught fire moments after takeoff from the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh. The flight quickly returned to the airport, but evacuation of the plane was delayed and all 301 people aboard died.
 
user1804599
9:39 AM
The Challenger crew.
 
@JohanLarsson yes she does. I usually prefer fart.js
the old DLGTEMPLATE and DLGTEMPLATEEX editor by definition
 
Ven
@rightfold so, wrote anything in oz yet?
 
user1804599
No, and won't.
 
Ven
why not? the concurrency is good, ain't it?
 
user1804599
I don't know.
 
Ven
9:52 AM
oh.
also, idris has forkIO
 
user1804599
I want to try Datomic.
 
Is it webscale?
 
user1804599
It's immutable, so yes.
 

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