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9:00 PM
And then it disappeared and the linked message linked to transcript instead
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh... I thought it was worthwhile
 
@Xeo You basically start your own shell company and pay some limited funds into it. That company then feeds money into them. In this instance there will be all sorts of nastinesses and potential prison time. But there's probably a way to arrange it so that it's legal to introduce limited liability into the equation, if only for you.
 
Evening all.
 
Then again, you won't get a loan for it so probably not very helpful
 
@Xeo IIRC you can 'buy' parked companies. all the paperwork is set up. That company could buy your parents personal dealings. Then let that company go bust.
 
9:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus I managed to edit out the body text whilst adding a ":1234567" reply prefix
so that bit was basically me
@thecoshman :(
 
Pretend to be a Nigerian prince for a while to pool funds
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sounds... complicated.
 
Wait... Xeo's not a Nigerian prince?!
@Xeo Nothing about any of this is going to be simple if you want to be able to afford food by the end of it
 
alt: Get buttcoiners to invest in this restaurant, they have no business sense whatsoever
 
9:05 PM
cosh explained it much better anyway. slightly different concept but essentially the same idea and much better here
 
@Xeo hint: it is
 
this is why YOU DO NOT START A BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY A QUESTIONABLE ONE, WITH YOUR OWN ASSETS EXPOSED TO ALL THE LIABILITY
 
@Xeo here's some english advice on german insolvency procedures: uk.practicallaw.com/2-501-6976#a976058
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well, I proposed basically paying to have the paper work of getting a limited company sorted. Quicker, simpler, but you ahve to pay.
 
9:06 PM
sure
 
I have absolutely no idea whether this is a satirical news source or not.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus what do you have against buttes?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit problem is, it's so easy to do so.
 
Problem is that the necessary legal and accounting advice to go near such an exercise would be expensive in itself:(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Why not if you can have your kids bail you out if you fuck up~
 
9:07 PM
hehe
well sure
just wait until they see the bill for all our legal and financial advice today
 
@CatPlusPlus because that was exactly their business plan
 
@thecoshman white people
 
Ell
investing in bitcoins makes sense as soon as they are all generated :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit are you aware that you have 61,200+ posts in this chat box?
 
scnr
@Chantola yes.
 
9:08 PM
@Ell No
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh - you have an address for the invoice?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what do you have to say?
 
@Chantola are you aware shut the fuck up
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus why not?
 
@Chantola so much
 
9:08 PM
??
why?
 
@MartinJames yep
 
@Ell hint: that's not how it works.
 
Butts are dumb and if you buy into them you're dumb
 
@thecoshman that's mean
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus Oh I understand now
 
9:09 PM
There are far better investments
 
@thecoshman I don't get it?
 
That are actually investments
 
@CatPlusPlus such as restaurants
 
Ell
@thecoshman hence :P, :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We should stagger the billing to give him more of a chance.
 
9:09 PM
BUY BONDS
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well I'll be, I thought I saw a fuck
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Is this a joke? Microsoft is VS2013-ing Office? Are you shitting me? :(
@MartinJames Perhaps €500 per month or something fair like that? Over four years or so of course.
 
any way, time to watch a film
@xeo good luck gu
 
Xeo
hf
 
Oh you won't have any fun
 
9:10 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Unbreakable:)
 
I charge 45€ per codepoint of advice
 
> Microsoft is also improving its Outlook email client with sync options to just download 1 day, 3 days, 7 days, or 14 days of email. In the existing version of Outlook you can only download a minimum of one month of email, so the new option will improve any space issues on Windows laptops and tablets with limited storage.
Oh wow
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm similar, but I do give the first post free.
 
Worth waiting for
Top feature
@MartinJames I saw that
 
I assumed it was on purpose but now I'm disappointed
 
9:12 PM
I'm sure it was
 
¬_¬ films are easier to watch on a computer when you transfer them...
 
YouTube unfuck your settings shit I don't want to see those stupid annotations
 
Anyway, Everton and Arse are out of the cup, so I reckon that's a good reason for a beer or two. I'm off.
 
Oh hey
They fixed it but apparently enabled the option by default because???
 
9:15 PM
@CatPlusPlus calm down boy, you're just obscenities
 
Oh not this again. More foreign-language spinoffs to help further fracture our poor imperilled trade (I love how you say you "greatly value centralised knowledge", then talk about having 8-10 SOs [plus the real one]), and abuse of Meta for advertising your company business. Sigh. — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago
 
WHOA PENALTY IN EXTRA_TIME STOPPAGE!
 
I deserve an award.
 
ahahahahaha
93
Q: Weird Google result description

tomwildeThe thread in question: Matlab: Scatter plots with large datasets & colorbar Screenshot: Google query was "matlab plot penis".

5
 
Liverfool - Middlingborough gone to penalty shootout.
 
9:17 PM
/cc @Cat
 
Why are you reading about bee sex
 
night then
@CatPlusPlus reddit vOv
 
night
 
user1804599
9:23 PM
nightfold
 
user1804599
nichtrijder
 
Ell
fuck it
give me tags :P
@rightfold haha
 
user1804599
 
Ell
I was going to say something
but I forgot
what it was
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what about spanish programmers that can't speak english?
 
user1804599
They should learn English.
 
9:27 PM
I know a lot about bees.
 
user1804599
Good luck reading documentation.
 
@thecoshman If you go to the bee's mating area you'd actually see a sea of dead drones because they only have sex once and then die due to sheer force of their ejaculation.
 
@thecoshman legion commander in dota 2
and extra skins follow suit
 
user1804599
@Rapptz Death after sex? Happens a lot with humans as well!
 
Xeo
gawd. if my conscience allowed me to, I'd just turn a deaf ear to my parent's problems. (un)fortunately, it doesn't.
 
user1804599
9:31 PM
Hmm, I can eliminate additions of integers if their results aren't used.
 
user1804599
But I cannot implement that until I add type information to the SSA form. :v
 
@rightfold And the crabs in Futurama.
 
@thecoshman that's gross
@Ell What about them? They don't have to use SO. Nobody's forcing them.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit right - you don't have to use the spanish SO?
 
see this sort of reasoning just propagates the false notion that you need SO to be a programmer. like people can't debug or research for themselves, and crucially that they shouldn't have to
 
Ell
9:37 PM
I don't see the problem with another SO which is spanish
 
@Ell correct.
@Ell duplication of information
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit flagged as spam :P
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit how? none of the spaniards have put any information on the english so
 
the whole point of SO is to provide a centralised knowledge base. this new obsession with multi-language SOs from the devs is a DIRECT contradiction to that goal.
@Ell I fucking bet they hae
 
Ell
let's ignore bilinguals for a second
 
9:38 PM
what
you think just because some people wil use spa.so rather than so, there will magically be no overlap in the sort of questions that are asked?
@rightfold wtf it's not "spam"
 
user1804599
It's also off-topic and belongs on Careers, not on Meta.
 
user3010322
@Rapptz That's... crazy. It's not even that they just stop trying to live after they mate, or they get eaten like male spiders do.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, I'm saying to the spanish programmers there is no information in the english Q&As
 
@rightfold oh the post. :D yay
 
user3010322
Their orgasm is LITERALLY THEIR PENIS EXPLODING.
 
user3010322
9:39 PM
And they LITERALLY die from having EXPLODED THEIR PENIS.
 
user3010322
That pain must be excrutiating.
 
@Ell I suppose ultimately I'm not that against the new sites. What I don't like is the way the SE team has no fucking clue what SE is trying to be any more.
@ThePhD They're paralysed so it's possible they don't feel it
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I really have no clue was SE wants to be/is trying to be. I just disagree with your comment about duplication of information is all
 
I imagine no more so than being eaten alive
 
user1804599
It's politically incorrect to not create special sites in different languages.
 
9:40 PM
But without any Bee Wikipedia, you wouldn't know what was coming, so it would be one fucking big scary shock wouldn't it
 
user1804599
Not doing so would be instant racism, i.e. literally Hitler.
 
(pun intended)
@Ell mm
 
user3010322
Maybe the pleasure of their one and only ejaculation cancels out the excruciating pain?
 
I'd rather they had something translating existing content back and forth :)
like oh er I dunno GOOGLE TRANSLATE
 
user3010322
Maybe that's why Wasps were created. They saw that kind of stuff and were like "Fuck that noise."
 
9:41 PM
makes far more sense than recreating the whole fucking database of shit
 
user1804599
Wasps were created to punish hard-working good people like the government does.
 
it's just basic data sense
 
user1804599
WASPS ARE THE GOVERNMENT :tinfoil:
 
SEPARATE DATA FROM FORMATTING
 
user3010322
Is language a formatting parameter though?
 
9:42 PM
@ThePhD Maybe the pleasure is the pain
@ThePhD I'm calling it one for the purposes of this discussion, yes
the idea is data. the words are formatting.
think of formatting as everything about the shapes and colours you see on screen
data is what you figure out by interpreting it
I can write the same idea in bold, italic, french, strikethrough, mandarin, ...
 
user3010322
CAPSLOCK, too.
 
sure why not
 
user1804599
I should comment one day in another whine on meta that "my vagina disapproves of this question."
 
I look at my screen and the first words that jump out at me: EXPLODED THEIR PENIS.
the fuck
 
user3010322
@TonyTheLion Oprah's bees.
 
user1804599
9:45 PM
@TonyTheLion dat pun
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't think any spanish programmers have translated their answer and posted it on SO
 
@TonyTheLion \o/
 
Ell
you can't write good answers if you can't speak the language
 
@Ell Translate the fucking question?
 
Ell
just look at all the "sorry my bad engrish" questions/answers
 
9:46 PM
don't care
still not a good enough reason
this is such a slippery slope, this whole idea
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That isn't the issue - translating the answer is the problem
 
they're already planning SIX MORE
 
user1804599
If it's understandable for English-speaking people then they can always improve it.
 
@Ell translating neither of them is any sort of problem
 
user1804599
Stack Exchange is partly wiki for a reason.
 
Ell
9:47 PM
I'm just saying how many spanish only speakers have contributed answers to SO do you think?
 
user1804599
It's really sad they removed this diagram from the help page:
 
user1804599
 
My other problem with it, frankly, is that us experts cannot provide any meaningful oversight in countries/communities with known SHITE programming education. Left to fester on their own in their own little SO, misconceptions and crappy practices will breed like so much bacteria. At least on SO proper we can do our part to try to stem the tide -- it's an uphill battle but it helps a bit, right?
I mean seriously can you imagine the damage an isolated Chinese SO would do to our worldwide industry overall? Seriously?
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you mean all countries and communities? :)
 
9:49 PM
Today, I met lots of cool seniors and people doing their Masters
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hmm that is a good point
 
I finally found people who understand what I'm talking about ;_;
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit s/expecting/expecation?
 
user1804599
inb4 LRiO repwhoring on Stack Overflow India.
 
And they hate Js and Ruby quite a lot ;-;
 
nah I'd have an aneurism (sp)
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit (INcorrect! s/i/y)
 
Ell
this is cool
 
9:50 PM
@ThePhD (gtfi)
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ikr?
 
@Ell I hate the new wiki image viewer thing
 
lol "own work"
> <God> u wot m8
 
Ell
they grew it :P
 
@melak47 web 2.0 sigh
can't just show a fucking picture
 
9:52 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's all BLAM IN YOUR FACE, and scrolling moves the stupid thing, wut
 
it has to pop up in fullscreen with arrows and stuff
 
> If you know JavaScript, you're beyond repair
 
user1804599
@Ell is that bismuth?
 
user1804599
@Jaydles Integrating translationparty.com with Stack Exchange is a great idea! — rightfold 10 secs ago
 
9:54 PM
@MohammadAliBaydoun "The use of JavaScript cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence." [with thanks (and possible apologies) to Edsger Dijkstra].
 
Ell
@rightfold yup
 
@Ell that is indeed very cool
Although I don't know what it is
 
user1804599
Also Japanese is a terrible example.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
SO TEMPTING
 
10:00 PM
nah
you'll just get the whole thread nuked and it's relatively friendly atm
 
user1804599
I'm gonna sleep within a few minutes anyway.
 
user1804599
Often when there's havoc on Meta Stack Overflow, I'm involved.
 
go for it
 
user1804599
Well, off to bed! Byebye pups and other people!
 
Xeo
Fuck this. I'll have to (hopefully) sleep over this and decide on something tomorrow.
 
user1804599
10:02 PM
good luck xeo love you
 
user3010322
@Xeo Take more than just a night.
 
Xeo
Maybe I'll even ask for time off at work, I want this resolved ASAP.
 
Just ask work to buy the restaurant then
Simple
 
@Xeo Where do you work?
 
Xeo
At a company. Somewhere on earth.
 
10:03 PM
@Xeo Woah there.... you need to spend a lot more than a night on this.......
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Make it "decide on a further plan".
 
First of all take some time during which you're actually conscious
Then make it a long time. Like, a week at least.
@Xeo mm ok. next step of research is okay
 
Remember, rushing into things is what caused this problem to start with.
 
^ This is how I left the lab today
 
10:04 PM
It could literally put all three of you on the streets if you do it now.
 
Xeo
Private insolvency seems like an okay-ish option, especially since, if they manage to pay for proceedings and at least a quarter of their debts, they'll be declared debt-free after 3 years (instead of 6)
Man, I'll have to look this stuff up some more.
Ugh
Don't wanna.
Someone make problems disappear, kthx.
(This is why I never wanna have money problems.)
Welp, g'night
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun heh
ooh surya singh is back
 
night
 
How does a man on the moon cut his hair? Eclipse it
6
 
fail.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit gfy.
That means "good for you", not "go fuck yourself"; a little bit ambigous perhaps
 
Ell
fuuuuck
I just spilled my whole white russian on my desk
that'll teach me for trying to swirl it :(
 
10:24 PM
@Loopunroller /cc @ThePhD
 
@Loopunroller ;p
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :) <3
 
@Ell all the subtext
 
user3010322
@Borgleader The worst.
 
user3010322
Absolutely the worst.
 
10:48 PM
perhaps a bad question, but do you guys tend to use more often std::string or std::wstring in your projects?
 
AFAIK std::wstring doesn't give that much more than std::string. I'm probably mistaken though.
 
there's this thing I keep hearing that at least on Windows it's better to use std::wstring, but every time I ran benchmarks on code that was using strings a lot I found it brought some performance penalty
 
wat
performance wise it shouldn't change at all
 
well, for me it did
but I might have been doing something bad
 
both std::string and std::wstring are std::basic_string with two different template arguments
 
10:51 PM
the thing was doing some string manipulation, also reading from streams
yep, I do realize that, but perhaps with double-sized strings less things could fit in cache? I don't know
 
I doubt you would notice that. How many strings were you instantiating?
 
I don't remember, I'm just handwaving, but I do remember that just changing std::... into std::w... (stream, string, etc) gave me a sensible performance penalty
I just wanted to know what you guys use more often and if there's a particular reason to pick one over the other
(I know there are SO Q&As, but I'm not convinced by the advice "Thus, if you work on Windows, you badly want to use wchar_t")
 

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