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11:00 AM
any way, lunch time :D
 
@LucDanton Nah. Looks like some kind of UB. I assume in the (_a=qi::_1) part. Getting this with a different version of gcc: paste.ubuntu.com/8409912
 
sbi
@thecoshman I don't know anything about last year. This year, however, I was stuck with the kids and was between two under-prepared seminars I had to give, so I only joined once or twice for a few hours in the late evening, when I got too tired to work on the second seminar anyway... That's indeed about as bad as the situation could get.
 
@rightfold Because it's majority use case or because storing only one thing in that container is easier than having two separate things that store a scalar and a container
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yeah. None of them as bad as this one, though.
 
user1804599
The API complects unrelated stuff and is therefore unintuitive, inflexible and horrible.
 
11:01 AM
lol
This is literally not a problem
The API is trivial
 
user1804599
One could provide a type DictSecureCookie that does dict stuff.
 
user1804599
But god wtf don't make it the default FFS.
 
see above
 
@sehe I’ll check the documentation for lifetime considerations.
 
sbi
@thecoshman What happened to the idea of us invading Poland and all staying at the Cat's?? (FWIW, I am pretty sure I could organize a hog to be roasted on a stick over fire here, too, if you're willing to pay for it.)
 
But mah ocd
 
@LucDanton perhaps px::val(qi::_1) or even +qi::_1 would do o.O
 
I gotta leave for the exam soon
god I don't want to
 
@sbi They're trying to trick us into going to UK
 
I'll just fuck up again
 
11:03 AM
@LucDanton OOOOOH. Look at that. I think you might have run an optimized build (and not with valgrind)? With -O3 I get this: paste.ubuntu.com/8409932
 
man, as if dying 6 times on normal difficulty at the 2nd boss battle wasn't shameful enough (DMC3)
the game also throws in a message like "easy difficulty unlocked"
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then you'll pay for a repeat and do it again, big whoop
 
which roughly translates as "you're too lame for this game, here, try the retard difficulty"
 
@sehe I’d be very sceptic of the unary plus.
 
I repeated database project course 3 times, because we were too lazy to get the project finished in time
 
11:05 AM
@LucDanton it makes it a rvalue in the generated functor. I'm trying it now :)
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Sounds like an expensive idea. OTOH, we would all speak the language of the aboriginals.
 
@sehe Didn’t I inherit the coliru command line from your end?
 
sbi
And even the puppy doesn't seem to be as bad a misanthrope as you are, Cat.
 
i don't like uk
 
@CatPlusPlus I'll need to stay on the uni for a year longer
 
11:05 AM
Also they're not in Schengen
 
@sehe const& don’t care, sadly.
 
@CatPlusPlus that's not a problem
 
@BartekBanachewicz Doing a single course vOv
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus From what I can gather, you don't like anything outside of your flat.
 
@LucDanton of course it does! after the end of the containing full-expr
Also, what do I get? paste.ubuntu.com/8409950
 
11:05 AM
@CatPlusPlus well yeah, still annoying
 
> Reference preservation is necessary because we need to have L-value access to outer lambda-scopes (especially the arguments). args and refs are L-values. vals are R-values.
 
@sbi But UK specifically more
 
val is indeed the recommended solution.
 
@LucDanton Coliru did the right thing before. I was locally testing the variant you sent. Call me crazy :)
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Of course, it is. We would all have to trade currencies. Which is a nuisance.
 
11:06 AM
@LucDanton Does it DoTheRightThing with actors, though :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Diploma exam is still the worst part of this shit anyway :v
 
user1804599
Even worse, this is a no-op:
 
@CatPlusPlus really?
 
Oh no it’s fine. Tired.
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't think I've ever heard about anyone not being a complete idiot failing it
 
sbi
11:07 AM
@CatPlusPlus I fail to see the significance between "I dislike going out of the house by 95%" and "I dislike going to the UK even more".
 
@BartekBanachewicz Stressful as fuck
 
@LucDanton Looks like it does work. val is more expressive than +. We have a winner!
 
@OMGtechy no -.-
 
@sbi I don't dislike going out of the house that's entirely your presumption
 
user1804599
# does not save:
cookie = SecureCookie({'user_id': user.id}, secret_key=...)
cookie.save(response, 'auth')
# have to fucking do this wtf:
cookie = SecureCookie({'user_id': user.id}, secret_key=...)
cookie.modified = True
cookie.save(response, 'auth')
 
11:08 AM
@CatPlusPlus Isn't it basically answering questions that you know upfront?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'll deploy the cats them
 
You know a list of questions, but you don't know which ones you'll be answering or what they really want to hear and in how much detail
 
@LucDanton One final check. With -O3 under valgrind, my current answer probably suffers exactly the same...
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Now, I am not here all that often anymore, but I am pretty sure that you have been complaining about stuff you cannot order home-delivered because you dislike leaving the house and going among people.
 
@CatPlusPlus that's like the pinnacle of terribleness
 
11:09 AM
Like I was asked about something related to design patterns or OOP or something
 
the piece of shit on top of the cake
 
sbi
 
And I told them about the inheritance modelling relations between types
But they didn't like it because???
 
sbi
^He's an idiot.
 
@sehe Local variables do sanely copy rvalues by default, unlike the rest of yon typical Proto EDSL.
 
11:09 AM
@LucDanton NO! Not according to valgrind. Ah. bind keeps arguments by value. Of course. So, there's something to be said for that contraption
 
Haha :D
 
@sbi He's not, he's just... hard at times. I'm sorry for that :S
 
@sbi Yes
But yeah it's hard to fail, but it's still stressful as fuck
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz That's not "being hard". That's being unreasonable. Just as an idiot.
 
Esp that in my case all other groups were like "oh everyone got a 5 don't worry"
 
11:11 AM
@LucDanton Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I can only assume I had dismissed your simple version because it GPF-ed on MSVC2013. I'll be updating the answer with some more warnings
 
> class GameAgent:pubic Agent{
 
And then we sit there and people are exiting and the average is about 3
 
Is a timer good for something that should run daily (C#)?
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz This is probably one of the most common typos among C++ programmers.
@CatPlusPlus What are you even talking ranting about?
 
11:12 AM
Recounting the diploma exam experience~
 
@JohanLarsson scheduled tasks not an option? Otherwise, yeah, why not. Be weary of the spurious wake-up though, and of atomically registering that the trigger was handled (possibly across application restarts, especially if you're hosted in ASP workers?)
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz "GameAgnet". He must be a pirate.
 
@sehe Googling scheduled task. What does spurious wake up mean? It is for a low priority task pruning an event log.
no asp
Maybe a list that does it automagically is better
 
16
Q: C++ unexpected implict conversion

marackThe following code compiles due to the implicit conversion for char. I'm not sure why since the only implicit conversion I would expect (and expect to fail) is from char const* to size_t. #include <cstddef> struct foo { int operator[](size_t i) const { return 1; } operator char() const { r...

Nicely done, C++. :D
 
11:19 AM
@Jerry101: And some of them even include them deliberately! — Lightness Races in Orbit 8 secs ago
@OMGtechy k cool thx
 
@JohanLarsson surely it is. No matter how low the prio, consider the cost of missing a run (or several of them).
 
@Griwes this is why I wish the explicit keyword could be used in more places
 
@JohanLarsson The rest is google-bait I hope
 
@sehe The cost is minimal, our current implementation writes until OOM then crashes the app :)
 
11:20 AM
I still need a timer for the db, maybe
 
@OMGtechy This is why I wish explicit was implicit.
 
@Griwes the irony
 
See what I mean about guessing shit
 
Or maybe I'll just keep it simple and have the db wrapper keep track of last prune time and start pruning on inserts
 
@OMGtechy Glad you see it. :P
 
11:24 AM
fuck markdon
2
 
@sehe I dumbed it, the solution is really simple. Exposing the collection as readonly and do housekeeping in the add method
 
If I were seriously considering coming to the unconference 2015, would that wipe out half of the people off the attendance list? ... could make it if it's after March ...
 
sbi
@chmod711telkitty I think you're overestimating your impact.
 
yeah i'm not going if kitty is
 
I thought you would remark on my insecurity, apparently I could be over-confident occasionally ...
 
11:34 AM
@chmod711telkitty funny thing is, that's exactly the same as feminism!
 
sbi
@chmod711telkitty Oh, but I did take note of your insecurity – and reacted accordingly. :-P
 
Last time I went to a programmers / developers / flying ninja turtle meetup, those who didn't get along simply spoke to other people. I was quite surprised; I expected massive opinion clashes flaring up everywhere.
 
Xeo
Fuck mobile dev.
FFS.
 
@chmod711telkitty are you kitting me?
@OMGtechy real-life interaction is very different from online interaction.
 
@StackedCrooked indeed. The internet seems to act as a shield and encourage people to fight a little
The flying ninja turtles in the group were outsiders though.
 
11:39 AM
@Xeo hihihh
 
@JohanLarsson That's the usual simplist approach to limited caches. Good thought there (I assumed you needed to interact with the Windows Event Log there ...)
 
My other half is currently dancing to Mozart Sonata 11 by twerking. Whut.
 
@sbi last year this year, what ever, it's done now :P but yeah, my point was, you had said you doubt you will be able to do anything, and you ended up mildly merry with us.
 
In A Major, if you care.
 
'text': {u'analyzer': 'snowball', u'type': u'string'}, still wrong aaaaa
 
11:42 AM
@OMGtechy Mozart Sonata 11, underspecified again. Try KV number or the instrument(s)
 
@sehe yeah it is really simple and I dumbed it, the scary stuff you had me google for made me reting it :)
 
@OMGtechy Oh god. The piano one then. So many rapes on that one
 
sbi
@thecoshman For like 4 hours out of a whole extended weekend. That was pretty sad, I think.
 
@JohanLarsson Good :)
 
@sehe K 331
 
11:43 AM
@sbi I don't care. If either you are @LightnessRacesinOrbit do any more of that shite, I will make use of the new feature. Both of you, grow the fuck up and stop being so annoying with your petty shit.
 
Yes, the piano one.
 
@sbi yeah, a shame that it was so little, but considering how busy you managed to get tricked into being, not to bad I think.
@sbi hog roast :S
 
@OMGtechy I new once you named the key :/
 
sbi
@thecoshman Are you threatening me, who's here about 3 hours per month, to lock me out of the chat for a while?
 
Go back like a half hour from here
 
11:44 AM
Exam in 15 minutes
If I fail I am posting that I want to join a prog rock band
 
@thecoshman I hope you will find a mirror in the following 5 minutes.
 
And will finally get on stage again
#fuckuni
Let's do this
 
@BartekBanachewicz CS related exam?
 
Welp found it
 
@sbi 5 minutes :P and yes. Seriously guy.
 
11:46 AM
rice is so fucking boring
:(
 
Every single search index has to use the exact same field type for document = True, otherwise Haystack just picks one at random
Or probably the first one but still
 
BUT THIS CHICKEN TIKKA IS AMAZING
 
@sehe ಠ_ಠ
 
sbi
@thecoshman Oh please stop this. It's hurting my belly.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can stop. I already asked the pirate, very very directly, to consider his tone.
 
11:46 AM
So much for reusable search_indexes
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I could eat rice with sweet and sour sauce all day. Do not insult the rice. Rice is amazing. Rice is life. Rice is the future of mankind
 
also... that was not a very long 5 minutes :S
@sehe not really.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Perhaps it requires a star
 
Aaaaaand it still doesn't match partials
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
sbi
11:47 AM
Anyway, back to work.
 
@sehe oh well good as long as you, my secretary, are on the job, then I do not have to reply to any messages addressed to me! awesome.
 
@thecoshman I can't help it if you didn't get that. I guess I'll leave it at that then
 
@Sofffia Dunno. Cat didn't use Emma's very next words as a rebuttal.
 
@sehe Perhaps you being a twat to thecoshman does not deserve a star
 
@sehe dude, talk about shooting first.
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11:48 AM
That's a gem. Next time I might consider talking about shooting first. But there was little time for that, seeing the rate at which you were expanding. I feel my action was exactly appropriate because of the exact words you chose.
 
ahahaah
2
Q: Is there any particular aspect differentiating feminist and non-feminist work in sci-fi/fantasy?

JahanpanahHow does a work in sci-fi and fantasy qualify as a feminist or otherwise? Should gender based questions be part of the work and having only strong female character isn't sufficient? Case in point being the plethora of heroines running around in contemporary fantasy books but hardly any work can b...

 
@sehe but really? you aren't fed up with them to constantly spewing snide remarks at each other all the time?
 
Have a read through all of this nonsense while I'm gone
@thecoshman "All the time"? We haven't spoken a word to each other in like seven months. what are you going on about
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit this shite ಠ_ಠ
 
I make fun of lrio all the time
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11:49 AM
@thecoshman yeah we're always really nice to everyone in this room. snoflek
 
@thecoshman I don't see how that's relevant. But I do know that the best thing for me to do now is to ignore you.
 
@CatPlusPlus <3
@sehe o.O
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit as soon as you to get a sniff of each other it's just starts spewing out.
 
So much love here, it's touching.
 
11:50 AM
@sehe very grown up. A difference in opinions, you kick, then refuse to talk. Fuck me.
 
@thecoshman not really, no. but if you think five or so words to you about him per seven months is "spewing out" "all the time" then I guess that's your prerogative shrug
@OMGtechy <3
 
So, still no kick audits eh
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit <3
 
inb4 "chat is very well designed"
 
11:51 AM
@CatPlusPlus of course not. Why would we want to see if someone is abusing a feature?
 
If I can have some of the Tikka, you can have another.
 
thanks balpha
 
But I seriously doubt it'll happen.
 
@thecoshman It's like rape. Why would you want to watch someone being abused/raped? You wouldn't!
well I guess some people do
 
11:51 AM
to be honest, I think I'd rather not have the kick feature if it doesn't have audits (that can't be edited away)
 
but then they're probably rapists too
speaking of, as a quick aside, I've started watching Top of the Lake and it's great
@thecoshman same
 
@thecoshman I didn't kick because I differed of opinion. I kicked because that's exactly what you threatened with. I wanted to make sure you realized the fallacy of a weapons race.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... I don't... I want to see who is doing the raping so they can be stopped.
 
@thecoshman I got it ;p
lol Lounge weapons race
Cold Whore
 
Hahahaha
 
11:53 AM
Gee, talk about storm in a teacup.
 
@sehe except I had laid down (what I thought) was clear 'stop doing this'. I did not have this secret plan that I would just kick them, and then explain it away later.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes A nuclear explosion in a teacup*
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't like tea... well, most tea...
 
why not
u fake english
 
@thecoshman I'm a Vegetarian. What's in it for me?
 
11:54 AM
actually maybe you are fake english and that's why it's like not your native language or whatever ... hmmmmmmmmmmm
 
I don't green, or early grey...
 
@FredOverflow a chance to repent?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol :P
I'll take it
 
> Tea, early grey, hot.
 
@thecoshman You eat lots of beans, don't you? Me like beans.
 
11:55 AM
@thecoshman whatever. You were perfectly in line. There's no need for you to reflect on what you said and the implications of any of your threats.
Next time I have a "difference of opinion" with you, I'll do what I always do: argue a bit, then ignore. Next time you couple foul language with room owner privilege abuse, I'll just remove you from the owners list, if you preferred that.
 
I like my tea before I order it!
 
Thanks for listening.
 
Beans, beans, good for your heart, the more you eat the fitter the tart
 
@sehe ah now, you can't take me fucks and shits! that's like a racism!
 
yeah take thecoshman off the owners list, put me on it, then I can just remove the whole lot of you and run this room properly
yeahhhhh
 
11:56 AM
I just googled the beans means farts thing @LightnessRacesinOrbit
What the actual hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggr-MIE3svk
 
@sehe no I get you're point. I just seem to be the only one who seems to feel that kicking is like a glass of water to the face.
 
NSFW NSFW NSFW
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You wouldn't do that to me, would you?
 
for fuck's sake OMGtechy you fucking fuck
@R.MartinhoFernandes you may stay.
 
There are non-fucking fucks?
 
11:57 AM
It really abrupt though, you can't even read
 
Fuck.
 
And flagging. Impressive.
 
14 mins ago, by thecoshman
@sbi I don't care. If either you are @LightnessRacesinOrbit do any more of that shite, I will make use of the new feature. Both of you, grow the fuck up and stop being so annoying with your petty shit.
12 mins ago, by sehe
@thecoshman I hope you will find a mirror in the following 5 minutes.
now both of you shut the fuck up. thanks.
 
@sehe always put jokes first man.
 
11:58 AM
So, unconference next year is in Sydney, yeah?
 
to be fair, I just need to move stuff to my 'bitch fight' room... just a shame it gets closed...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit erm... yes... book your flights bro
 
@thecoshman shit
 
15 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
there's no rage in the lounge. never any arguments or fights
Trololol
 

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