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9:00 PM
in C#, 5 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
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user1804599
Ugh.
 
lol
Oh you
 
@not-rightfold Recently, I saw this being posted. But it contained a few more words too
 
@not-rightfold "Have you tried anything?"
Italics optional depending on mood.
 
JBL
Is it made to force people to flag with the "Must show a basic understanding of the problem etc." and not comment ?
 
9:01 PM
I comment (or not), depending on moot
@JBL It's happening a lot more often, IME
The "show minimal understanding" seems to be the new cop-out close reason
 
yup
 
@sehe That is really unfortunate.
 
JBL
Well, IMO it's most of the time the most relevant flag for people that just dump an assignment/job task.
 
@JBL Oftentimes I wonder how the voters have reached the verdict that people don't have minimal understanding
 
"I see Herb (Sutter) shushing me already." =)
 
JBL
9:04 PM
@sehe The close reason say "Must show". They may have it :)
 
GoingNative is killing twitter?
 
@sehe Nothing can kill Twitter. Except perhaps New Year's Eve in Japan.
 
 
user1804599
@sehe m.twitter.com
 
9:07 PM
> "efficiency" and "istream" in the same sentence
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^^ ahahahaha
 
@Mysticial he was a bit more bold about it
 
ahahahah yeah
 
sbi
Twitter is down. I meant to tweet this, but, alas, that doesn't work.
 
STL on the mike!
 
9:08 PM
@sbi The fun thing is, m.twitter.com works.
> Did you try LLVM?
 
@FredOverflow Couldn't hear anything. :'(
 
Win.
 
@Tuntuni something about SSO
 
> Did you try LLVM?
LOL
 
28 secs ago, by Griwes
> Did you try LLVM?
 
sbi
9:09 PM
@Griwes Indeed. Interesting.
 
@Griwes He said it again. :D And again. ;D
 
@Griwes Andrei said it and the guy in the audience said it too
 
> That's what he said?
 
Ell
@FredOverflow you can only have one statement in a this constructor
 
9:11 PM
@Ell I don't believe that.
 
He was intentionally deceptive on that last question.
 
Ell
It's probably wrong. Let me double check
 
user1804599
4chan y u so slow.
 
user1804599
Finally a Dutch thread.
 
@CaptainGiraffe He's a bit like Der Schaub like that
@not-rightfold useful. This is gonna ensure that you'll be meeting the absolute proletariers?
 
user1804599
9:12 PM
std::draad
 
@sehe Schlaub?
 
@CaptainGiraffe Nein!
 
user1804599
> Schlaub
 
user1804599
lol
 
@sehe My memory inserts random l-s. That was the culprit.
 
9:13 PM
> Let it be in the record that Scott nodded. With many nods.
 
this talk is really entertaining
 
yep
 
yes
 
@sehe litb is that mans name.
 
> As a man you gotta take risks. ~Andrei Alexandrescu
 
9:14 PM
:)
 
Maybe Johannes over a beer.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow yeah I was wrong. You have to call another constructor before you call any other statements
 
Sure, same thing as in Java.
 
Oh, there's no move elision?
 
Ell
Yeah, I read what I was reading on a blog
How silly of me to believe it.
 
9:16 PM
@Mysticial Nope
 
@Mysticial What would be the point?
 
I've kinda been assuming that something like:
Myobject x;
x = std::move(y);
Would skip the default constructor.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial I think he means return std::move(local_stuff);
 
I guess not.
 
Xeo
9:17 PM
Which is currently a pessimisation
 
hmmmm
 
@Xeo oh
 
@Xeo Should be the same, in a way. Although there is leeway from the as-if rule?
 
Xeo
I actually talked to Richard about always moving when returning a local variable
 
@Xeo Or a value-parameter?
 
Xeo
9:18 PM
ya
 
'cause that really bugs me
 
sbi
@thecoshman I just saw me and two of my kids on TV. Yesterday I was on stage with the chief of Berlin's social democrats (and criticized him). On Monday we wereparticipating in a panel discussion about rents and housing that was held by the Left party in Berlin's parliament building. On Sunday we had a house-wide meeting. On Friday we had a meeting of all active ones from all houses. On Wednesday I was at a meeting of my community's parliament, to which I went after a meeting in our house...
The last 9 days I had 9 such appointments. I am utterly exhausted.
 
@sbi I'm exhausted from just reading all that
 
Xeo
^ seconded
 
sbi
@sehe Yeah, indeed. Did you go and look for this?
 
9:23 PM
^^ thirded
 
@sbi Woa.
 
@sbi Yeah, it failed to come to me in a dream :)
 
This guy's awesome.
 
class Account
{
    private var balance = 0

    // Wait, why doesn't this work?
    // error: Account does not take parameters
    this(x: Int)
    {
        this();
        betrag = x;
    }
}
 
what?
 
9:24 PM
scala
 
oh
meh
 
@FredOverflow This reminds me of a language designed to complement UML.
 
@sbi Constructors are confusing in Scala, if you're used to classic OO languages.
 
hehe
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel I'll have you know that I have my mother visiting for a while now. Basically, she made all this possible, by keeping this household in order, doing the shopping and the laundry, picking up the kids from school, and babysitting them while I prostituted myself for political attention. Sigh.
 
Xeo
9:25 PM
Ooooh, he mentioned Java
 
hahaha
 
Xeo
And he doesn't know about final
 
@sbi I hope this all works out in the end.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow My students would show me such code and then asked me if I could help.
 
@sbi That's... nice of her. And probably a bit stressful in it's own right
@sbi The difference being that you taught a C++ class?
 
9:27 PM
@FredOverflow that's a delegating constructor call right?
 
@Borgleader The compiler does not even get to the body of the constructor, but yes, it would be that.
 
right, the missing ;
 
Scala does not need semicolon at the end of class definitions. And even if it did, it would infer them ;)
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel So do I. Basically, I had another 30hr/week job in the last two months. Just keeping up with reading all the mail discussions is nigh impossible. (The robot's boss sponsored a list server for us. Some days I have 50-80 mails just from one of them.) And yet with all that incredible effort we accomplish so little. Sigh.
 
STL's next! YAAY!
 
9:28 PM
@FredOverflow private var balance = 0 <--
i thought this would take a semicolon
 
Give me an S! Give me a T! Give me an L!
@Borgleader Automatically inferred and inserted by Scala.
 
oh
So whats the problem then, been a while since I scala'd
 
On German keyboards, you need the Shift-key for the semicolon. So you save even more time :)
 
@FredOverflow S-T-L! WOOOO!
 
I seriously don't know. All I wanted to do is write a constructor that takes an x and uses it to inittialize balance.
 
sbi
9:30 PM
@sehe Yeah. She's no spring chicken, and just all the daily excitement wears her out. Not to speak of herding a bunch of kids in my stead. Also, she's a bit disappointed that I am always away. Tonight she counted to me that I have been home in the evening only three nights in the last two weeks. (And then I was reading and writing emails...)
 
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A: Variable not printing on iteration

seheAh. I think I see it: You appear to have forgotten to strip the newlines from the input. This would resulting in the last column having a trailing '\r', and since you always add a ' ', this space will overwrite the originally printed i. Strip the newline character from the input before splitt...

^ psychic debugging FTW
 
My mind is so slow right now. I definitely won't be able to keep up with STL.
 
@StackedCrooked Mind mind?
 
sbi
@sehe Indeed. But the students had one year of exposure to Java when I got my hands on them, and that was hard to wash off.
 
How long is the break?
 
9:31 PM
15 minutes prob
 
hmm, i have time for a shower
 
STL was originally scheduled for 1 minute ago.
But I don't think 3 minutes pause is enough.
Please don't be angry if he starts while you're in the shower.
 
ill bring my tablet lol
 
@sbi Mmm tough calls. Priorities. :(
 
Didn't the last break take an hour?
 
9:32 PM
@Borgleader to the shower?
 
@Tuntuni That was for lunch. You only need one lunch.
 
@sbi Would you reckon college Java is worse than amateur BASIC? (I would)
 
@FredOverflow OIC.
 
Put it on a chair in front of the bath?
 
@Borgleader Be sure to make it less long than the pony, because he missed 74% of Andrei's talk
 
9:33 PM
I'm surprised I don't feel more tired
 
Can we please star Borgleaders "I have time for a shower" to at least get him a little embarrassed.
 
@sehe goto habit can be easily replaced with functions!
 
@Rapptz CPS!
 
oh @sbi, for some good news, I really like my new job. :) Thought you'd want to hear.
 
I'm tired, time to nap.
 
9:33 PM
@melak47 not in the shower but close enough to hear
 
@Rapptz B-but, STL's next ...
 
Xeo
@Rapptz See you tomorrow
 
@Rapptz cya
 
@Xeo lol :(
 
9:34 PM
I'm also weaving out
Night all
 
I was gonna nap, but I skipped it
 
@Rapptz @sehe Night :)
 
@Tuntuni I don't watch talks!
 
I'm going to see if I can make through STL's talk
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Hey, this isn't our Tony!! ARE YOU IN THERE TONY? WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU? WON'T THEY LET YOU OUT?
 
9:34 PM
maybe I'll fall asleep, maybe not
 
@Rapptz :'(
 
@sbi Hahah
 
I'm sure they'll be uploaded to their channel so I can watch it if I cared right?
 
I don't feel very tired yet.
 
@Rapptz Yup.
 
9:35 PM
yes
 
@Rapptz No they will destroy all evidence.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Watcha doin now?
 
@Tuntuni Ah well, no biggie then. Time to nap.
 
@StackedCrooked They will delete it from the Internet
 
so STL is up next? too bad ThePhD isn't here ._.
 
Xeo
9:35 PM
Oh, continuing
@melak47 He's probably there in person?
 
@Rapptz Still, knowing it's happening at the same time I'm watching it gives me a special feeling. :D
 
@sbi Finance (trading) software (C++ and C#)
 
OOHHH it started
 
Eh nvm... ill wait
 
@Xeo if someone asks about reflection, we'll know he is :D
 
Xeo
9:36 PM
Yay, STL \o/
 
> Lah-wah-wade
 
WOOO
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Ugh. Well, if you like it.
 
sbi
Can someone give a link to Bjarnes keynote? I might want to watch that tomorrow.
 
9:37 PM
that's the important part. Whether others like it is irrelevant
@sbi Its not online yet
 
sbi
Oh well.
 
It'll be posted next few days I would guess
 
@TonyTheLion It is, in the live stream.
 
Question about Slide 1. - Why this prrft.
 
sbi
@Griwes Link?
 
9:38 PM
There's "Jump to" next to description of his talk.
 
This seems to be both confused and confusing. "Write the program to std:err"? "Something imperfect" in "the memory addressing". Come on, it's c++, not voodoo — sehe 2 mins ago
 
sbi
@Griwes Thanks, I found it.
 
STL started
 
@A.H. 5 minutes ago. What's your excuse for being late? :3
 
studying :<
 
9:42 PM
@A.H. Pfft, STL's my teacher.
 
Ell
Meh I'll probably get the hang of scala if I try
and hi @sbi!
And bye everybody!
 
sbi
Well, I do need to go to bed now. I can barely keep my eyes open, and for the first time in a week I have to be up very early tomorrow morning, because the kids will want my attention.
 
@Ell bye
 
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Q: Struggling with basic constructor stuff

FredOverflowComing from a Java background, I don't understand why the following doesn't work: class JavaAccount { private var balance = 0 // Wait, why doesn't this work? // error: JavaAccount does not take parameters this(initialBalance: Int) { this(); balance = initialBalance; } } I ...

 
its tagged scala....
 
9:44 PM
It's def this, not this, lol.
 
yeah i saw the comments.
holy shit STL talks fast
 
> we can count above 5, or 10, say; which is useful
 
aww already removed
 
by myself
 
9:46 PM
I always just miss the articles I really want to read
 
lol, look at those semicolons in the Scala code. What was I thinking?
 
Could someone give me an opinion on two different solutions to a certain thing I'm working on? I need to send player position from the client to a server and don't know if it would be better to just add a "Send(char* data)" or a "SendPlayerPos(double x, double y, double z)" to my networking class
With the second I feel like I might end up with a huge pile of small functions while the first offloads building the packet a bit too much to the class uploading data
 
Xeo
suffix s should be string_view :<
 
@Xeo lol
 
@LaylConway why not RMI ?
 
9:50 PM
Reminded me of 1 :: Int (", " :: std::string) from Haskell
 
@A.H. I'm not sure the networking library supports it, I'll check
 
-XOverloadedStrings
 
It does but it's a plugin, it also seems to require __cdecl functions which might make it a pain to work with
 
@LaylConway The first one would be horrible idea, even if it wasn't taking char*.
(Don't take char* jesus christ)
 
9:52 PM
@chris oh my...
 
@chris LOLWTF???!!!
 
Dang, tell STL to switch to decaf. #GoingNative2013
 
uuugh of course RakNet's RMI documentation is only available in video format
 
Unlikely
 
> They have another macro. Thanks C.
xD
 
9:57 PM
:)
 
> Well, I have seen an implementation of karma that works -- on Stack Exchange.
 
TIL BOOST_SCOPE_EXIT_ALL
 
Yeah right
 
I prefer unique_ptr
 
yea
actually, why didn't he suggest that?
 
9:58 PM
@TonyTheLion He started with "the simplest", wait for it!
 
@chris must... not... troll...
 
You need to get out more.
Or was it "go out more"?
I don't know anymore.
 
@MooingDuck assuming the password has been changed round about after the devil turned in his assignment
 
@CatPlusPlus who you talking to?
 
9:59 PM
I DONT KNOW
 
@TonyTheLion himself, apparently :D
 

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