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8:00 PM
Well. We built a cathedral
 
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> Each texture can have its own resolution and may be animated by putting the frames underneath each other - A text file is needed to specify frame order and duration
 
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That's fucking awesome.
 
@CatPlusPlus (1) the table of contents is in the reverse order of the headers on the page (2) Many of the links don't work.
 
@Zoidberg What is it?
 
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Minecraft 1.5.
 
8:01 PM
Oh
I love how their engine still sucks
I am going to create all block entities in Lua
 
@MooingDuck Looks just fine
 
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I don't care about the engine.
 
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The game is fun so it's good.
 
Anyway, I love minecraft. I don't have to write my project spec
 
@CatPlusPlus The first item on the TOC is "1.1 1.5.1". The first block on the page is "1.5.1". Clicking the link for "1.1 1.5.1" takes you to "1.5.1" There is no link to "1.5.1" Clicking the last TOC link for "1.17 1.0.0" takes you to "1.0.0" That's not "just fine"
 
8:03 PM
Because atm I am totally ripping it
 
@MooingDuck Yeah 1.1 is the automatic number
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm a moron
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New rule, section names should not be numbers :(
 
I don't suppose there's a std::w_regex, is there (for wchar_t expressions?)
 
God, it had 10k+ bugs so far
 
@BartekBanachewicz Custom, perhaps?
 
8:06 PM
@ThePhD Regex doesnt work
 
@BartekBanachewicz In GCC.
 
@MooingDuck Instastar. Instar.
 
@ThePhD Dont work
 
But do work, in MSVC.
 
@Pawnguy7 I have to think about it. Its not very important tbh
 
8:07 PM
It's the one thing that works in MSVC, apparently.
 
@ThePhD i still wouldnt use them
Yet, I mean
 
@CatPlusPlus Are... those
spiders?
One's a mic, but was that thing on her shirt a spider?
Was she just bit with a Brown Recluse or something and that's why she passed out?
 
@CatPlusPlus AHAHAHAHAHAH
That's Croatian Television (name of the channel).
HRT stands for Hrvatska Radio Televizija or Croatian Radio Television.
 
You've got too much science on
 
8:11 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Agreed. Perhaps far in the future.
Be kind of fun to make a minecraft server for the lounge. Unfortuately... laptops that get ~20 fps singleplayer is not going to cut it.
 
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There already is one you noob.
 
There is? Since when?
 
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Since 12ths of ages.
 
since about three months ago at least
 
I came here about a week ago :\
 
8:14 PM
@Pawnguy7 Did you clean up after yourself?
 
what, and you haven't already read the last six months of transcript?
you're the suck
also what cockface plus plus said
9
 
Hm.
 
i know/guess it is against the rules to headhunt and harras ppl here but is it against the rules to ask where to look for c++ jobs. Im looking into cool countries like Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, but job sites look "empty". :D
 
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Careers 2.0.
 
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GitHub Jobs.
 
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8:16 PM
lol
 
lol i dont want ppl to see my profile, that is horrible idea :D :D
im an expert c++ dev, not a lame noob :P
 
Who hosted the server?
 
btw speaking of harrasment
did you see that pycon craop
 
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Stop it you fool.
 
@ScottW expression - heard , read
@ScottW it makes me sad and pissed that stupid ppl like that harras poor nerds because they are easy targets... like somebody said try to pull that crap on rap concert and tell me how it went. :D
 
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8:21 PM
@ScottW plonk
 
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@ScottW plonky donk
 
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@ScottW plonkyyyy plonkaroo
 
Can I ping myself?
 
Xeo
a/s/i/o
 
a/s/s/o
 
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8:22 PM
/b/o/o/s/t/a/s/i/o
 
c/a/s/t/l/e
 
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Oh wait Xeo was first.
 
Xeo
suck it
 
@Xeo Screenshot. WHAT A SEXIST DEVELOPER OMG HE SHOULD LOSE HIS JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB.
 
btw i got harrased here also... so Xeo is no sexist, just a terrible human being :P
 
8:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz, your chunks bug-free yet?
 
@Rapptz : How do you set up Qt on windows?
You use it regularly right?
 
it's an installer, I'm not really quite sure how much simpler it can get
 
no its not that
say, i want to make a simple console app
what hapens is that cmake gives me problems when i make a project
 
Stop regfuckexing, plx.
 
I use qmake, not cmake because I.. kinda like qmake more.
 
8:25 PM
Does anyone know the command to execute a gcc .ssa file off the top of their heads?
 
@NoSenseEtAl Xeo? No, you're thinking about Zoidberg.
 
@EtiennedeMartel iirc you cried about no global play in sc2, it is live now afaik
if it wasnt you sorry
 
@Pawnguy7 nah. I want to make a console now (shell). It will ease in debugging
 
@Rapptz : This is hte problem it gives me g++.exe: error: unrecognized command line option '-GCodeBlocks - MinGW Makefiles'
 
@Pawnguy7 I also have my server.
 
8:27 PM
btw lets see who is the real sherlock holmes here: im looking for a job sites in Europe... can you guess in which county i currently work. :D
 
I don't know how to use cmake very well, sorry :|
 
@BartekBanachewicz Making it server already?
 
@Rapptz Thanks anyways I guess. How do you configure qmake then?
 
@NoSenseEtAl I did not cry.
I only cry when watching Pixar films.
 
did you download the entire qtproject?
or just qt creator?
 
8:28 PM
@d0rmLife I have hair on the top of my head.
 
@Pawnguy7 I mean original MC server
Minicraft server will probably start to exist in around... 2 months?
 
@Rapptz just creator
 
It will use TCP and ZeroMQ
 
Hey, gues
giuse*
 
in order to use qmake you need qt as a whole so I don't know if you want that
 
8:29 PM
guys*
 
@DogPlusPlus does that presume an exclusion of unusual gcc syntax?
 
@ThePhD you suck.
 
:c
 
@Rapptz whoah. Thats 800+ MB man
No way.
 
If there a way to manually increment and decrement a shared_ptr's reference count?
 
8:30 PM
no.
 
@GamesBrainiac huh?
 
@ThePhD why the fuck. no. NO
 
Yes, YES>
 
now stop what you are doing
 
I have a ref-counted resource.
 
8:30 PM
get your hands in the air
and wave them like you just don't care
 
@GamesBrainiac The 800 MB Qt 5.0 thing is Qt Creator + Qt + MinGW64
 
@Rapptz If you want the whole things for windows I think its a few hundred MB
 
and leave this poor shared_ptr alone
 
@ThePhD By destroying and creating shared_ptrs
 
@Rapptz So, which one to download then?
 
8:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz up right now?
 
@ThePhD ... and?
 
@Pawnguy7 nah, we are going to play LoL now.
 
@GamesBrainiac Qt 4.8.4 is fine with ~317 MB
 
@ThePhD ofc there is... you look at the implementation, find out how to get to cnt in memory... and enjoy :P
 
8:31 PM
There's multiple objects that all tap into the same pool. When they refer to the same resource, I want to increment that resource's count by 1. When the object disappears, that count goes down by 1.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I see. Tell me if it is ever up though :D
 
@Rapptz Will look at that then. My internet speed isnt outstanding or anything. Just 60 KBps
 
The reason I'm asking is because the resource is currently a unique_ptr<void, ReleaseWindowsHandle> type deal.
 
@Pawnguy7 we are going to play (my friends) when Bukkit 1.5 comes out
 
I was wondering if I could change it to shared_ptr and just make do.
 
8:32 PM
60 KBps? What the hell son.
 
@ThePhD shared_ptr supports custom destructors
 
@ThePhD you are probably doing something terrible again
 
@Rapptz Welcome to Bangladesh.
:P
 
@GamesBrainiac Are they required to hand-deliver every bit?
 
lol , 350k CHF/year c++ job in CH... bit over my lvl though :D
 
8:33 PM
@Drise they are using carrier pigeons
 
Can someone explain why i need to have a basic understanding of UNIX in relation to C++
 
you don't
 
@AmberRoxanna you don't need it
 
@Drise Nope, most of the time I get 50. 60 if I'm lucky
 
@AmberRoxanna Whoever told you that is retarded.
 
8:33 PM
You... don't?
 
@AmberRoxanna so you understand << :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz I imagine that is soon enough. What kind of server?
 
But it aint that bad, I can atleast download encoded anime! :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Are they carrying coconuts?
 
@Pawnguy7 what do you mean "by what kind of server"
 
8:34 PM
@ThePhD this is coming from my university
 
@BartekBanachewicz In this case, survival vs creative, essentially.
 
@AmberRoxanna Not surprised.
 
@AmberRoxanna Also I see you finally understood that the other room is a joke :)
Universities are terrible
don't listen to a word from them
 
@AmberRoxanna Listening to your university is a surefire way to learn nothing
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol, yeah
 
8:34 PM
@Rapptz : How much speed do you get?
 
because to be a real c++dev you need to be a fag, and being UNIX user is an tutorial how to become one... :D
 
@Griwes seems legit
 
2.5-11 MBps
 
@NoSenseEtAl who the fuck are you anyway?
 
8:35 PM
i'm very surprised that 99% of people on SO go against what Universities teach you. people on here told me that listening to them just ruins you...bad practices etc.
 
because it's true
most of C++ teachers are complete idiots
 
@NoSenseEtAl What
 
@BartekBanachewicz wanna be fag
 
@AmberRoxanna My lecturer is living in 90s. Writing pre-standard C++. How can he be right about things?
 
@NoSenseEtAl you like slow or what?
 
8:36 PM
What about Steve Jobs?
 
@ScottW don't ask -_-
 
He's dead
I don't know if you've heard
 
@CatPlusPlus if you dont get it you dont get it... it is about being an expert/douche at the same time, not about being gay... dont you ppl watch south park
 
@NoSenseEtAl It's also unfunny
 
@AmberRoxanna lol, somehow earlier pics were better
 
8:37 PM
@CatPlusPlus take a screenshot of me, and fire me
 
Ah. I see. Although... did Steve every program anything? I forget.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
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Define "better". ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
8:38 PM
@Pawnguy7 yes, he did.
@Zoidberg I ain't going to, since Cicada is dead.
 
@BartekBanachewicz i stop putting up my pictures because steve jobs is sexier
 
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@AmberRoxanna because Unix is superior to any alternatives in existence.
 
and my point is proven
 
Why can't games pick screens properly argh
You have no point
 
when will i ever need to know UNIX, job listings state "familiarity with UNIX"
 
8:40 PM
Game seriously I want this window on second screen stop moving it
 
@AmberRoxanna when you go to work with alexandrescu in FB... send me a postcard
 
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@AmberRoxanna Because you never use computers outside of your job.
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's not me
 
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Isn't that Olivia Holt?
 
8:41 PM
@BartekBanachewicz established a long long time ago
 
I don't know
 
@AmberRoxanna Linux? OS X? Historical significance? The home of C? The basis for the future that is C++?
 
Funny thing is, guys from "the real C++ room" are totally hitting on @Amber
 
@Zoidberg Here, have a star for that insane face.
 
ppl say unix and they mean linux
cuz they suck
at knowing stuff
 
8:41 PM
Did DeadMG get a new username?
Fuck me, I hate this keyboard
 
@BartekBanachewicz Seriously
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think that's Met.
 
Really
 
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@CatPlusPlus there are things beyond comprehension in that room
 
8:42 PM
@ScottW what!?
 
in <!Real> C++ Room, Mar 16 at 22:59, by CC Inc
I don't like the word "memory" and "pointers" in the same sentance.
 
ok so UNIX/LINUX....people are strictly referring to the command line ?
 
@NoSenseEtAl Unfortunately, most people can't appreciate the past. That's why they suck in the present. Especially when that "past" is still a major player and will remain as such for many years.
 
@AmberRoxanna mostly to tools
 
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@AmberRoxanna no.
 
8:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz lol
the poor things
 
@AmberRoxanna like ls, find, grep,, etc.
 
user142019
I use Vim and Chromium in Linux.
 
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Ohh in that sense.
 
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Yes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz manipulating files on your computer ?
 
8:43 PM
@DogPlusPlus thing you will like: Erik Meijer had a something like "comp scientists dont know/forget their history" as intro sentence to his phd
 
@AmberRoxanna yeah. And finding files/ text in files
Linux/unix doesn't use registry like windows
 
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PhDs are more worthless than the brown substance that occasionally escapes my ass.
 
@AmberRoxanna What? I don't even... Have you even tried googling the term Unix?
 
all configuration is stored in system files
 
@AmberRoxanna Not afraid to ./configure; make; sudo make install
 
8:44 PM
@Drise Not really no
 
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> sudo
 
user142019
Use su you scrub.
 
-3
Q: HSIK WTH OF W/O YM?

Ken KinOkay, I'm ready to be downvoted(many). The complete title would be: How should I know what the heck of W/O you mean. Easy! I'm not really blame on anybody, just kind of humor. I revised that question Can you write C++ wrappers in C# instead of using C++/CLI? where in the question bo...

^^ wtf?
 
@AmberRoxanna if you are going to write in python in a job, it will be mostly file operations probably
 
8:45 PM
9gag is sexist name printscr
 
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9GAG is terrible.
 
What is 9GAG?
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh i'm not seriously considering python, i'm just using it to learn programming ideas like recursion because i could worry about syntax less and concepts more
 
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Its content is even more uninteresting than Programmers'.
 
did anyone in this room ever do anything real and useful with C++ ? curious
 
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8:46 PM
@AmberRoxanna try Haskell.
 
@AmberRoxanna NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! never make python or Java your first language... use C
 
@AmberRoxanna python is used in industry
 
@AmberRoxanna I use it at my job. My main work is working in C++, Qt, and VTK
 
@DogPlusPlus A Reddit filter.
 
@Zoidberg Agreed, but sometimes good things appear there.
 
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8:46 PM
@NoSenseEtAl no, use VHDL.
 
@NoSenseEtAl don't mention C when I am around
 
@AmberRoxanna Yuppers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Calm down.
 
@NoSenseEtAl point taken
 
@BartekBanachewicz C u in hell
 
8:47 PM
@AmberRoxanna I work on a game engine at home and at work. Both are in C++.
 
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@DeadMG she said "useful", not "Wide". :P
 
NoSQL FTW!!!!
 
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A: C++ as a first language

DevSolarI don't understand why people still confuse "language" with "library". (Referring to the linked answer.) So what if C++ doesn't have a "native" concept of audio? There are lots of libraries out there, which you can readily use with C++, and which are probably better suited to your specific needs ...

 
O_o
 
@AmberRoxanna don't you consider my game useful? :)
 
8:47 PM
@NoSenseEtAl C is a terribly bad idea as a first language. You have to learn pointers right from the start.
 
So if @DeadMG is DeadMG, who is @DogPlusPlus?
 
Incidentally, the worst C++ learning material are the ones that teach you pointers from the get go.
@Drise Dom.
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, not really, but even so that is how you know PC work
 
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The best first language is obviously Java.
 
@Drise Domagoj
 
8:48 PM
croatian cockface
 
Panda?
 
@NoSenseEtAl I betcha you don't
 
@NoSenseEtAl That's irrelevant. We're talking about a first language.
 
@BartekBanachewicz sorry, i didn't mean it that way...i want to work at google or facebook, will your game let me do that ?
 
I have not made anything useful in C++, no. Rest assured - I haven't using any other language either.
 
user142019
8:49 PM
Why would you want to work for Facebook?
 
Star time!
 
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You'll be creating a platform for retards.
 
@AmberRoxanna get a masters in compsci, that should help
 
Ew PHP
 
Well... google DID make pacman that once. That is a game :D
 
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8:49 PM
@NoSenseEtAl LOL
 
@Zoidberg they pay a lot, all i want to make is money
 
@EtiennedeMartel can you elaborate why i need pointers to use c as a beginer...
 
You want to program for the money?
 
@NoSenseEtAl Try doing anything in C without pointers.
Go on. I'll wait.
 
8:50 PM
@EtiennedeMartel i said basic stuff... what is the basic stuff i cant do without pointers
 
@AmberRoxanna People who have a chance at working at Google don't equate Unix with Linux and command lines when they're 16.
 
@NoSenseEtAl I/O?
 
@EtiennedeMartel file IO, or cout(printf), cin,
 
@NoSenseEtAl cout/cin is in C++. I thought you were talking about C.
 
To be fair you can use VLAs now
 
8:51 PM
@Pawnguy7 i want to write a program that makes money ;)
 
Oh, were you thinking that C and C++ can be used interchangeably?
 
@DogPlusPlus Google/Facebook interview questions are all Algorithms
 
@EtiennedeMartel i am , i just refer to cin cout as in out, like i call cerr
error output
 
@AmberRoxanna Right.
And I shit rainbows.
 
@NoSenseEtAl C standard input requires pointers.
And while you can do some output without them, in practice you'll need them anyway if you want to do anything useful.
 
8:52 PM
1 min ago, by Cat Plus Plus
To be fair you can use VLAs now
 
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@AmberRoxanna oh you're that kind of person.
 
@EtiennedeMartel well afaik, it requires & operator, not really ptr arithmetics
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes. But it's hardly ideal.
@NoSenseEtAl That's still pointers. You need to explain why you need that & thing.
 
Pointer arithmetic is uninteresting fringe case
 
@EtiennedeMartel i mean you can skip that little & :D
 
8:53 PM
@Zoidberg what ?
 
And I fucking hate courses that go the "just use that without question, we'll talk about it later on" route.
 
Oh so we have Dog Plus Plus as well now. My life is finally complete.
 
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@AmberRoxanna fun not important, only money.
 
@EtiennedeMartel well tbh it was a long time since i learned c, but im happy it was my first lang in college although now i hate it@ work, since C++ is much nicer <3
 
@AmberRoxanna I mean to say - well, wanting to make money programming? Sure. That would be nice. But if you only want to program for the money, and not because you want to program, it will probably be difficult.
 
8:55 PM
Why do I have a feeling this Amber fellow is a massive troll?
 
user142019
I'd rather become a railroad engineer than going to school for another three years.
 
@Pawnguy7, No it wouldn't. It would just be sad
 
@DogPlusPlus define troll
 
And of course a waste of time
 
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In Internet slang, a troll (, ) is someone who posts inflammatory, , or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. The noun troll may also refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted." While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels , with trolling describing intentionally provocative...
 
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8:56 PM
HAHA that picture.
 
@Zoidberg my questions about UNIX made you emotional ?
 
@AmberRoxanna No, we're just annoyed.
 
user142019
I'm never emotional since I'm a psychopath.
 
@DogPlusPlus Because you think that about anyone.
 
lol
 
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8:57 PM
@ScottW [42] singleton!
 
@Jueecy yes, and lack of enthusiasm as well
 
@Zoidberg We're talking about the GoF pattern, not the mathematical concept.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel no shit Sherlock.
 
@Zoidberg I'm gonna shoot down every single one of your jokes.
 
@AmberRoxanna, So you are a girl and you like programming?
 
8:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'm just conservative. I still feel that the Lounge is DeadMG, Cat, daknok, sehe, sbi, Jerry, Cicada, Mooing Duck, Mysticial, Scott, Tony, Xeo, Robot, Stacked, you and the rest of the squad.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel as if I care.
 
@Zoidberg You care enough to tell me you don't care.
 
@Jueecy that is not rare you know, my sister is a programmer and my friend's sister is an engineer
 
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@ScottW I'm using a library called Scotty.
 
Does it beam shit up?
 
8:59 PM
@Jueecy that's how i was introduced to programming
 
@Zoidberg I think that lib doesn't know.
 

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