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Xeo
3:00 PM
@Fanael Is begin declared before or after that decltype?
 
user784668
@Xeo after
 
Xeo
Well, there's your problem
 
There you have it.
 
user784668
Oh, okay.
 
user784668
Worked around with declval.
 
3:02 PM
Keeping chickens as pets has become increasingly popular over the years among urban and suburban residents. Most chickens are kept on farms for the agricultural production of meat and eggs but some chickens are kept as pets for entertainment and educational reasons, along with homegrown eggs and sometimes meat. With the growing interest in all-natural pest control alternatives, people are now keeping chickens to rid their property of unwanted insects and larvae, which uses the birds' natural instinct to seek out and eat bugs. Background Chickens can be tamed by hand feeding and by being ...
There.
 
Now I want a chicken.
"Hi. This is my chicken."
Master wingman.
 
@DogPlusPlus I went to your site, and I can't figure out what the hell is Duality supposed to be. Is it a renderer? A framework? What?
 
We have chickens+2 cocks across the road. We get eggs. Also noise.
 
@MartinJames why did the cock cross the road?
 
This is gonna hurt, isn't it?
 
user1357851
3:07 PM
@sehe To get to the pussy kitty:
 
user1357851
 
@Telkitty "Deli-Cat"? Such a horrible pun.
 
Also, WTF is a ' Background Chicken'?
 
@MartinJames A chicken in the background.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Duality is the game engine ( scripting, networking, overall management, sound, visual scripting, input schemes, scene hierarchy, vectorized math library etc.) and Miri64 is the renderer with a 64-bit HDR pipeline. It has multiple paths, you have the ASVO (accelerated GPU-based SVO probed by cone tracing), the little older lattice-based reflective shadow map approach encoding lighting in low-order spherical harmonics ( Kaplanyan-Dachsbacher 2010 offspin ) and
 
3:10 PM
And you ran out of characters
 
there's the basic tile-based deferred renderer with a more local illumination model which is not a precise solution of the rendering equation, rather an approximation (Skyrim-level).
 
Xeo
lawl
s/Duality/kitchen sink/ ? :)
 
Lounge<std::kittyLovers>
 
And there's the realtime raytracer demo, those diamonds I showed you some time ago. 1280x720@ barely ~25 FPS. It's just an experiment. Has no applicable future, for now. At fullHD it edegrades.
 
3:12 PM
@Xeo There's an awful amount of marketing bullshit on that page, though.
Dom, I hope your target market is suits, because programmers are allergic to that kind of crap.
@ScottW Cock-a-hola.
@ScottW Ha, that was the name of that mini game engine I made for learning purposes, once.
And it gave me the idea to name all my projects after lethal diseases.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, it's just an old promotional page. I can move into details, but who'd read that? The website I'm working on now should mostly just concentrate on how to use it.
And what you can do, rather than spewing technical stuff nobody cares about.
 
FUCK
I fucked up my repo again
god dammit
 
@DogPlusPlus But the programmers want the technical stuff. They want to know why is your shit so much better than everyone else's shit.
 
I can't git for shit.
I commited a file that shouldn't be there
So I made soft reset to correct it
and instead of deleting one file, I deleted the whole /src folder
@ScottW no, there's certainly a way
 
3:17 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Actually, that's quite useful. When I finish the new website, I'll pass it along. It was actually very complex at first, lots of details how it works and how far the dynamic GI can go.
 
$ git config --global alias.soft_reset !rm -rf src
$ git soft_reset # wunderbar!
 
And then people complained it was too technical ( game developers, specifically ). Most of them want to make games, rather than read how to align the SVO.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, hey, German.
Wunderbar is also the name of a chocolate bar brand.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes crying how do I undo?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hey, what's that supposed to mean? D:<
 
3:19 PM
But I still feel that a video demonstration would do it way more justice than explanations how it works.
 
user784668
boost has no range concat?
 
@EtiennedeMartel And Wonderbra is somethig else.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Whaat's in your wonder baaaallll?
 
@ThePhD nothing, just making fun of you a bit
 
@Fanael Boost Range sucks. Welcome to the real world.
 
user784668
3:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see.
 
:c
Meaniefaces.
 

"bind+cata+ana" or "Why Boost.Range sucks"

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Bookmarked Feb 12 at 10:03 by R. Martinho Fernandes

 
user784668
Any range library that sucks less?
 
@ScottW That song was awesome.
 
@EtiennedeMartel From your perspective, what would you like to read about the most? In the context of such a page.
 
3:21 PM
fucking git and "I won't lose your files"
fucking piece of crap
 
Impressive. There's a message on the starboard mentioning Bartek positively.
 
@DogPlusPlus The renderer, mostly. And what makes it unique.
Also numbers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What did you do?
 
We need sexy numbers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz did you tell it to lose your files?
 
3:22 PM
Did you lose non-commited, non-staged data?
 
I was thinking about giving people a technical demo in the form of an executable. And video for those who can't run it in its full glory.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I commited. Then made a soft reset
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am not sure yet
 
@DogPlusPlus You know, a video right there on the front page should be first thing people see when they come in.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes And after the soft reset I accidentally rm-ed too much
 
@jalf how to do you typecast a variable such that after the value is set the first time (after declaration), it cannot be changed again.
 
3:22 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's the one that onlz moves the HEAD, IIRC.
 
Like on Fogbugz's page.
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, did you lose the .git dir? Otherwise, just run git reflog and find the old commit id, then check that out and start over
 
Are you still at the last commit?
@jalf the old commit id is HEAD@{1} ;)
 
how do I go back to the old commit?
 
git reset HEAD@{1}
--hard if you want to drop changes, like accidental removal of src dir.
 
3:24 PM
the files are not there :/
 
@DogPlusPlus Makea da vidya for da people to enjoy, ya?
 
it shows a lot "D <file>"
 
@BartekBanachewicz the commit is there. And the commit contains everything that was committed
 
@EtiennedeMartel 69.
 
@jalf After I reset, how do I bring my files back?
 
3:25 PM
@BartekBanachewicz So the files are missing from your working tree (because you deleted them). Just do a hard reset then
@BartekBanachewicz by resetting harder! :D
 
@JerryCoffin You silly wasp person.
 
$ git checkout -- . also drops all unstaged changes.
 
From now on I am going to copy the whole fucking folder before doing anything
that's the failsafe
 
user1357851
@EtiennedeMartel 419? ... think sbout all those 'sexy' scammers :x
 
@BartekBanachewicz why? Because Git did the right thing and saved your data even when you tried to delete it? :p
 
3:27 PM
Doesn't that kinda defeat the object?
 
Looks to me like the hazard is your overzealous rm action, rather than Git ;)
 
YES!
@jalf that worked! thanks guys
It's like bungee jumping
til the last moment I believe I am going to die
 
@BartekBanachewicz rm it again, just to make sure.
 
btw, in more complex cases, run git reflog, and you can see a full log of all recent revisions which have been checked out (pointed to by HEAD). That's a really nice safety net, since you can then just check out the revision you had before you screwed up :)
Git's datastructures are immutable and GC'ed, so nothing you do will ever corrupt or delete an existing commit (unless you wait a month, after which it may get GC'ed and deleted for good)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Thanks -- I do try.
 
3:30 PM
So even if a commit is removed from your current revision history, it's still in there somewhere. You just need to find it :)
 
@jalf as I said - like bungee jumping
 
.... kiiiiiind of... I guess?
:D
 
if you really pushed it? :P
 
@jalf $ git gc --aggressive --prune="0 days" disagrees with you! :P
 
git push
now I either die or not
 
3:34 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, so does rm -rf .git :|
 
Phew, I almost rebooted the machine before setting sshd to run on startup...
 
surprised the newbie message is still there
what's going on?
 
Do you keep a timer for that shit? o_O
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, been there bud. it's a fucker to forget :P
 
@ThePhD It says "mar 7 at 15:07" right next to it
 
3:38 PM
42 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
I'm pretty disappointed with @CatPlusPlus too
lol
 
It's not 15:07 yet.
 
@ThePhD Yes, it is.
 
It's way past
 
user1357851
We can't win, because the sheer number of newbies, so we joined them
 
user1357851
we are now all newblets
 
3:38 PM
@DeadMG Bungee jumping is more about pulling than pushing. Unfortunately, it's not still "there", at least here in Colorado. Technically still legal, but so much insurance required that it would cost ~$300/jump, so nobody does it anymore.
 
Well, not according to my watch.
YOu've got a few hours to go.
 
@ThePhD Your watch is wrong.
 
Your face is wrong.
 
@ThePhD And if you are not in GMT, then I bet the timestamp alongside the newbie message doesn't say 15:07 for you. I bet it says precisely the local time from 32 minutes ago.
 
3:40 PM
Stilll got a few hours to go.
You'll be fine, you can whore the star message later.
 
@ThePhD Do you have any friends?
 
@ThePhD ¬_¬ do you not know how time works?
 
Go back to rep-whoring. <3
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Friends are for chumps who are social.
@thecoshman Time is for scrubs.
:D
 
@ThePhD So, in other words, "no". Shocking.
 
In case you couldn't tell, I'm trolling. :3c
 
3:41 PM
@ScottW That is so sad :(
 
@ScottW ...
 
@ScottW I feel for you.
 
oh, could it be daylight savings?
that was a thing we just had right?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Maybe. :3
 
3:42 PM
and no, I do not know when that happens
my phone knows, my computer knows, that is all I care
 
Btw,
I had a dream the lounge worked together on a project.
I couldn't see what we did but it was very successful.
 
You can all be happy again: I'm back.
 
@ThePhD lies!
 
@ThePhD Stop eating strong cheese before sleeping.
 
@ThePhD That's some powerful stuff you're smoking there
I would refrain from combining it with paint thinners though
 
3:44 PM
it'll never happen
 
=[
But
but but but
The dream was so nice. ;~;
 
@ThePhD As long as our project is to slam most programming languages, I can see that in real life. If it involves writing code, the prognosis is not nearly so positive.
 
meh
Too many too strong different opinions
A bunch of project leaders, but zero coders, one could say
 
I can code!
 
Yeah - anyything except software development might stand a chance.
 
3:47 PM
well
we all have very different opinions, and few of us would follow another.
 
@MartinJames I don't think we could organise a piss up in a brewery with more then one of us
 
I'd follow any of you to the ends of the earth.
 
@ThePhD stalker!
 
If not to get myself killed, to learn something.
 
@jalf Countered by Marauder.
 
3:48 PM
You can't fool me. This is still the C++ room.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...wannabe project leaders, anyway. Most of the best project leaders I've met were not only good at coding, but tended to spend as much of their time coding as they could.
 
@ThePhD Yeah - the some other Lounger would push you both off the edge.
 
Can anyone here answer this question?
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Q: Are generic programming and OOP mutually exclusive?

Stefano BoriniI never did generic programming before, being more of a python guy, and generally using OOP. As I moved into generic programming, I faced some issues. I read the FAQ, but I am not satisfied. What I want to ask are the following questions (I am mostly interested in the first, but answering the oth...

 
user784668
@RobertHarvey no, it's the Lounge. The C++ room this way: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/26275/real-c-room
 
yes
 
Xeo
3:48 PM
@RobertHarvey No, this is the C++ room.
 
It's not that we do not think others know what they are doing, more so that what others care to take time to work on, others don't give a crap about... eg the robots oneneck
 
Xeo
@RobertHarvey "STL"
There, answered.
 
@Xeo SGI's lib?
 
@Xeo He's linked to some article about Type Erasure, and how it will solve the world's ills.
 
@JerryCoffin I am coding as much as I can :P just on my project, not someone else's
 
Xeo
3:49 PM
Wait, he takes type erasure as the only form of generic programming?
 
@Xeo looks like Java :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz who's turn is it to get the pitch forks?
 
user784668
Hey, I like type erasure.
 
Xeo
@RobertHarvey: Generic programming in C++ usually means templates.
 
Yes, that's what he's asking about.
 
3:51 PM
@thecoshman I'll make do with a torch.
 
(I think)
 
@MartinJames pitch forks are a nice all weather sort of mob tool, and very classical. I like the classic touch
 
@thecoshman We really should maintain a list of that, to avoid any confusion in the future.
 
I'm heading home, yay! Have fun all
 
@EtiennedeMartel who's turn is it to create silly pages on the wiki?
 
3:52 PM
@thecoshman Pitchforks and torches go well together.
 
@thecoshman The Cat.
 
user1357851
@RobertHarvey this lounge is the run away fugitive - no matter how many decoys it has, what name it's disguised under, it is still just rooms/10
 
@MartinJames Pitchfork is a terrible web site.
 
@MartinJames oh they do, no doubt. But in heavy ran, I've yet to see a pitchforck get put out
 
There's websites for mob weapons?
 
3:53 PM
@EtiennedeMartel ... and who's turn to prod him into action?
 
@thecoshman This is getting complex.
We need more red tape.
 
Oh - 'The essential guide to independent music and beyond' OK.
 
@EtiennedeMartel have you filled out the form for the red tape?
 
You must fill out form Cat-23-a through Cat-25-c to interact with CatPlusPlus.
 
> sudo: unable to execute /sbin/reboot: Input/output error
Wut
 
3:55 PM
If not filed in Triplicate you are subject to a Purrformance review~
 
$ ls
Segmentation fault
$
Hmm, apparently I broke everything.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes read: wankered
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
@thecoshman touch "Segmentation fault"
nah, it really was a segfault :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That sounds bad.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...
 
Xeo
3:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ran any rm -rf / --no-preserve-root lately?
 
Damn I need another workstation
with NVidia
 
I love Segmentation fauls. They are so... mysterious.
 
@Xeo What is running on that machine is a live CD, so no worries there.
 
Try the hard reboot.
 
@Jueecy Not really. Those are often the easiest bugs to find.
 
3:57 PM
Oh, Hei lads.
 
@Jueecy An enigma shrouded in mystery wrapped up in cleverness and filled with RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm sshing.
 
OK, it's 'Fucked up rm' day.
 
I left the Gentoo live CD running on my laptop at home so I could install it remotely throughout the day.
But apparently I fucked up somewhere.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and hows that been working out for you?
 
3:58 PM
may i suggest you put those line in your .bashrc ?

alias ls=rm
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you can join "borked ubuntu installs club"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then get in here and axe the whole thing.
 
Lots of fun ahead !
 
It seems I will need to finish it in situ.
 
Put it out of its misery.
 
user784668
3:58 PM
@ereOn \ls
 
@BartekBanachewicz The install is fine, this is the live CD (kind of) running.
 
@Fanael Damn.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Also, did I mention it was Gentoo, not Ubuntu?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes doesn't matter :)
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol gentoo
 

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