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Xeo
6:00 PM
auto-completion, refactoring
 
@d0rmLife no. servers.
 
Xeo
analysis
 
@Zoidberg why would one want to mutate IR rather than the high level language or the ASM?
 
@Xeo I suppose.
 
user142019
@d0rmLife do I know, because assembly is unportable as hell and because you may use multiple high-level languages that compile to the same IR?
 
Xeo
6:01 PM
Because those don't yield a nice overview of the program?
 
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our compiler at work is dumb, it literally produces bytecode as it parses. The RDP doesn't return anything, it just writes the bytecode to disk :/
 
@MartinJames Great one
 
user142019
@MooingDuck sounds like wikitext.
 
IR tends to be a form that's easy to analyse and transform, like SSA
 
6:02 PM
@MartinJames 17 years old? Woa.
 
I haven't touched it. Troll?
 
The tag is the icy on the cake
 
Cat would suck at the UN: "So what if you all look alike? GET OVER IT you morons!!"
 
@CatPlusPlus I find the syntax rather frustrating, personally
Probably due to underexposure
 
:8409445 Yes this is very much the same thing
Also what
@d0rmLife Are you a compiler?
 
6:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus I am
 
Are you?
 
'member for today' : anti-Cicada check failed.
 
Hint you don't write IR by hand, IR doesn't even need a syntax
 
It has a form, which I am calling a syntax
For isntance gcc produces a different representation than clang/llvm...
 
user142019
@ScottW Congratulations. You fired yourself from your own company.
 
6:04 PM
@d0rmLife Yeah, so?
 
user142019
oh lol
 
@CatPlusPlus hah idk, just musing out loud I guess.
^lol
 
user142019
Brainfuck with system calls and no 30kB memory restriction would be cool.
 
ps @Zoidberg can you refer me to any tools that mutate IR?
 
user142019
LLVM's optimization routines.
 
6:07 PM
...
 
user142019
And besides that, no.
 
That is perfect, it is what I am trying to learn about
 
@d0rmLife why? That's something 99.99% of programmers will never see much less do.
 
I wonder what 99% of programmers do do....
I would say an optimization routine is a fine piece of programming, no?
 
Does anyone do a GUI for Brainfuck?
 
6:10 PM
IR is internal to the compiler, there are no tools to mutate it
 
WHICH WAY IS UP
it can be output on both gcc and clang/llvm... ?
 
@d0rmLife It's a matter of agreed upon convention.
 
Well, are you standing on your head?
 
But the general rule of thumb is opposite to the direction of the gravitational field.
 
@DogPlusPlus what is that? The IR?
 
6:12 PM
IR is a general term there is no "the IR"
 
Shit - my interthings have slowed to a crawl :(
 
An IR* :P
 
I really have a lot of work to do and I feel guilty not doing it.
 
@DogPlusPlus You're telling me. ;~;
 
Have you acquired your PhD?
 
6:14 PM
He is the PhD.
 
WORKING ON IT.
 
PS there is no "the phD" @CatPlusPlus ^__-
 
Also, technically, like @DomagojPandža said, I don't really need one.
Because I am one.
 
You are the one
 
@CatPlusPlus Is this gentleman harassing you?
 
6:15 PM
What is your thesis on?
 
A sheet of paper with certifications from the University of Awesome, Kickass, 01337
 
|=41L
PhD's never want to share their thesis topics to the lowly undergrads :_(
 
I wonder what went wrong with the Japanese translation of Stroutrup's C++11 FAQ.
 
lmao
 
@StackedCrooked My eyes puked.
 
6:17 PM
o_O
Lulz
Even I can tell that's not valid JP.
 
Where's @R.MartinhoFernandes to give a lecture on the importance of specifying encoding when you need 'im? :D
 
@CatPlusPlus I presume he wants to work on compiler optimization
@d0rmLife use the up arrow to edit
@d0rmLife buisness logic
 
Great pro tip
 
@d0rmLife I still can't figure out what this means.
 
You guys need professional help.
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6:20 PM
Who is @DogPlusPlus?
 
user142019
@Pubby @DogPlusPlus
 
@Pubby @DogPlusPlus
 
Who was @DogPlusPlus?
 
@Pubby Excellent question.
 
Who will become @DogPlusPlus?
 
6:21 PM
Decrement me and find out!
 
I know I'll become SkeetPlusPlus come April 1.
 
@DogPlusPlus = --@DogPlusPlus;
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Domagoj you cock, y u no chatroom? — DeadMG Feb 27 at 22:01
 
.... Hm.
I have no way for sure to tell if something is a file or not.
Because folders can be named anything.
 
@ThePhD boost::filesystem::is_directory?
 
6:25 PM
@MooingDuck A classic.
 
The directory / file may not exist.
 
@ThePhD Protip: it's not in the name :P
 
whats this room about?
 
I can't definitely say "oh yes this is a file or this is a folder" when that file or folder doesn't exist.
 
@deep your mom
 
6:26 PM
C:\arf can be a file ro a folder.
 
really
thats nice. Now tell me.
 
@StackedCrooked s/your/in your FTFY
 
@ThePhD boost::filesystem::exists()?
 
your mom is so fat that she is half the size of C++
 
@ThePhD duh?
 
6:27 PM
I guess I'll just never make the distinction then >_<
 
@deep your mom being fat
 
sigh :P
C++?
 
@ThePhD check if it exists, if it does, check if it's a folder. It's amazingly straightforward.
 
@deep No, that's the Real C++ Room.
 
Yes, C++
 
6:27 PM
age 13
 
No not C++
 
How do I strikeout C++?
 
@MooingDuck If the file doesn't exist yet and the folder doesn't exist yet either, what happens?
 
Three strikes.
 
@deep it's a lounge mostly of people who tend toward C++
 
6:28 PM
Do I just assume it's a folder until something else happens?
 
Throw it bad memory
there it is
 
@deep This room is for chatting about C++. (It's not a helpdesk, so don't ask questions here. Unless you can do it in a chatty way so we don't notice.)
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@ThePhD then exists returns false.
 
Also, we don't really chat about C++ here. We mock people mostly. The C++ part just lures unsuspecting victims our way.
 
6:28 PM
@MooingDuck Then we have no idea if C:\arf is a folder or a file!
 
@ThePhD you're given an arbitrary path to something that doesn't exist yet and you want to know if it's a folder or file? Can't be done
 
it can't be a folder or a file if it doesn't yet exist.
 
That's what I was saying!
>_<
Ya'll make me so mad confused. :c
 
IS IT TURING COMPLETE
 
It's turnip complete
 
6:30 PM
@ThePhD I read back, you did say that. I just misinterpreted because it made no sense at all.
 
@CatPlusPlus With Radish extensions?
 
Yes, the wheel is turning complete. All 360°.
 
@ThePhD I'm still trying to work out where said path came from where you don't know if it's a file or not
 
Greetings.
 
@MooingDuck File System Watcher. I you to be able to specify a path that may not exist at all (C:/arf). When the path is created, then you latch onto it and start reading notifications about it.
 
6:31 PM
Pornguy666 is back, everyone!
 
Checking whether something is a folder or a file is not terribly difficult
 
@DogPlusPlus Huh?
 
When it dies, the watcher goes into a "dormant" mode, I guess.
 
Please, come in, come in. Make yourself at home!
 
Why did you call me that?
 
6:32 PM
Inside joke
 
@ThePhD have the input specify folder vs file. Or treat it as a folder until it exists, then switch if needed.
 
Hm.
Well, I don't find it funny.
I don't want to be associated with such things.
 
Do you find E4 funny?
 
That only makes it funnier
I can't English
More funnier jesus
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@MooingDuck That's what I think I'm going to do. Just do exists checks. If all the checks fail, then I assume directory and then wait until it's created, then I'll get the states upon creation.
 
6:33 PM
I love you, Cat. That made my day. ahahah
 
How do you call a transformation that produces x1, x2, ... from a given (x1, y1), (x2, y2), ... ?
 
More funny?
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked map fst
 
@StackedCrooked [](pair<k,v>& a)->k& {return a.first;}?
 
Yeah map first
(fst is first not fist that's important)
 
user142019
6:34 PM
lol
 
user142019
Today I gave my fst fuck!
 
Would anyone be willing to give thought to a design question I have?
 
user142019
No.
 
Yes
 
Maybe
 
6:35 PM
Ahahahah. Either the Lounge is getting more funnier by the minute or I'm high.
 
I will think about it but not tell you
 
You are the boson.
 
You're probably high
 
Definitely high
 
The most funnier funniester!
SO chat's parser can't parse for shit.
 
6:37 PM
It's okay
 
needs a better IR
 
Ok. Well, I want to make a Resource class, so I can use them easily, say Resource::someTexture. Very nice setup. However, should I... call a load function in main somewhere, or rid together some sort of constructor to statically load it, but that seems messy.
 
Um, what does Resource do
 
it...*resources*....
 
It is basically a container of static textures, sounds, etc.
 
6:38 PM
YUP PARSER IS BAD
 
Aaand that's a bad design
 
HERPADERPA
 
SOUNDS LIKE A SINGLETON.
 
How does a singleton sound?
 
6:38 PM
Well, they are const, of course.
 
And here in this room, we don't give a single(ton) of fucks about that kinda stuff. :D
 
Well... actually, would such design questions be appropriate on SO? I am not certain.
 
probably at the cost of a good many downvotes
 
It would be appropriate in the PHP's codebase.
Well, not appropriate. The word I'm looking for is consistent.
 
I like that
 
6:41 PM
Hm... well,in that case, I don't know of where one could ask about the design, as it is C++ specific. Unless I have to make another account, somewhere...
 
Well, you could learn C++ first. That usually helps.
 
user142019
@Pawnguy7 Code Review
 
With C++, you can write a programming with the pointer.
 
user142019
@DogPlusPlus lol
 
user142019
Dat site.
 
6:43 PM
I think I know C++ well enough to suit the design question. Although, design is kind of a cross-language thing - I ask, in this case, because static is a bit different in C++ and, say, Java or C#. Well, Java. I am not sure what C# can do either.
Isn't code review for, ehm, written code?
 
user142019
Yes.
 
user142019
Or well.
 
user142019
Design-related questions are often just fine.
 
@Pawnguy7 You can ask on SO, just anticipate this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/66377/what-is-the-xy-problem
 
anyone here tracking the PyCon incident and its fallout?
 
6:45 PM
been there discussed that
 
user142019
@speeder shut up about it now.
 
I guess it was already discussed...
 
user142019
:)
 
I just found out about it
 
PyCon? Incident? Fallout?
 
6:47 PM
half life humor
 
1 hour ago, by Konrad Rudolph
Here’s some light reading:
 
I have reached a verdict. The whole ordeal is retarded. Give the poor sob his job back. Now kiss.
 
@adriarichards, San Francisco, CA
Developer Evangelist for @SendGrid. YouTube partner and creator. Coder. TED 2013 attendee. Snowboarder. Embrace your inner nerd.
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lol.
 
user142019
> Developer Evangelist for @SendGrid. YouTube partner and creator. Coder. TED 2013 attendee. Snowboarder. Embrace your inner nerd. Retarded asshole.
 
6:50 PM
Ugh not this again
 
Hm... well, I guess one could say, they are both wrong.
 
No, she's overreacting.
 
But I doubt that would suit well here :D
 
"I have a big penis" != sexism
Just like "I have a tight vagina" != sexism either.
 
6:51 PM
> Embrace your inner nerd.
I automagically hate poser cunts who state this.
 
sexual joke, perhaps...
 
THe thing is, the guy wasn't evne addressing her.
He didn't say "well you can suck on my big dongle."
He didn't say "I'll fork your repo"
He said NOTHING to her.
He was talking to his guy friends. Behind her. At a conference.
SHe overheard their joke - which wasn't sexist - and then went on a rampage.
 
ugh not this again
 
Lol.
Sorry.
 
6:54 PM
I guess in this case, we can say that. However, I would like to point out, not everybody likes such jokes. Unfortunately, that seems to apply to few in this room, but nevertheless. So while, in this case, she likely overreacted, does not mean others are never at fault.
In terms of inappropriate jokes, not sexism, etc.
 
Pornguy. Your name is just asking for it.
Dammit!
 
Sigh.
 
1 hour ago, by Cat Plus Plus
> Yesterday the future of programming was on the line
 
Apparently, none of you play chess.
 
Just look at this fucking sentence
 
6:55 PM
Ooh, it was?
 
I already made a chess joke and you didn't even comment
poser
 
@CatPlusPlus Seems like an intro to a very bad movie.
 
When did you make it?
 
Let's move on. What's your response to E4?
 
Hm. Well, that accusation didn't hold very well :D is it already E4?
 
6:58 PM
WUT
1. e4 __
 
Oh.
 
Her blog post
 
I can already see it. The scene fades in, a cat is sleeping on a laptop. On its side, shaved off fur in the shape of ++. On closer inspections, those are not pluses. Those are swastikas. World domination music ensues. The very future of programming is on the line.
 
What is that video game conference?
 
lmao
 

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