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11:00 PM
I've kept to myself for the past few months, fortunately, I've been able to do a lot of work to keep myself occupied. It was nice to get away, but you have to move on after a while.
 
starts to move on... ends up back here?
 
heh
we are the end and the beginning, the alpha and the omega.
 
@thecoshman why "watch out"
 
Someone called me a cock and I remembered where my other home was. :P
 
@DomagojPandža /whistles
 
11:01 PM
@Cicada troll
 
Maybe he remembers that
 
@DomagojPandža probably the dick puppy
 
@thecoshman Probably? It was linked right here in chat.
 
@Cicada ¬_¬ I thought dom's departure pre-dates your arrival?
 
yeah it was
 
11:02 PM
Domagoj you cock, y u no chatroom? — DeadMG 1 hour ago
 
@thecoshman Nope
I've been here for over a year (sadly)
 
@Cicada welp, seems my sense of time is worse then my spelling
 
user142019
 
@thecoshman than ;_;
 
@thecoshman It must be horrific
 
user142019
11:03 PM
Old but gold.
 
oh the irony.
 
@Cicada seriously? It can't have been
 
In the meantime, I've become an even bigger recluse :D
 
that's nice.
 
still too much light
 
user142019
11:03 PM
Nice battlestation.
 
2/10
 
DARK!
I like it.
I only have 1 monitor though. =[
 
user142019
At work we often turn off the lights.
 
user142019
Working in the dark is le better.
 
Working i the dark is awesome.
At Microsoft, nobody believed me.
 
11:04 PM
I hate daylight, it makes me feel... I don't know. Accepting of society?
 
They didn't like that I worked in the dark.
 
@DomagojPandža I dunno, I just don't work as efficiently in the daylight.
 
Everybody frowned upon my dark intern office. =[
 
@DomagojPandža You too. I was kinda worried. Also, you may want to change places because, wherever you are, you seem to have an exceptionally ill-fated 28 months or so. In terms of freak incid-/accid-/ev-ents
 
But I embraced it. In their rejection, I made excellent code.
 
user142019
11:05 PM
Light is distracting.
 
user142019
I do like a light source behind my monitor though.
 
user142019
From a damn light bulb.
 
user142019
Not fluorescent or LED shit.
 
mine's on the fritz
not that I'd actually have it turned on
 
@DeadMG well get it of the damn German, what you need is a good Mexican
 
11:06 PM
 
@thecoshman people are grownups. Let them decide for themselves, maybe? It's not like the roach was unknown here back then
 
Darkness is awesome!
 
Wow you use iTunes?
 
user142019
iTunes! :3
 
@DeadMG GOOD LORD MAN! I have seen some slightly unbalanced screens, but this!
@sehe keep reading
 
11:07 PM
@thecoshman What?
they're actually identical models.
but the colours are slightly different between them
 
@DeadMG one is fucking red man!
 
At my office the lights over the engineering half are basically never turned on. I've only seen them turned on four times in the last three years. The engineers who think otherwise either have (A) window cubicles (x3) or (B) sun lamps (x2).
 
Speaking of light vs dark I prefer dim lights.
 
user142019
 
@thecoshman Yeah, but it looks worse than it really is because iTunes is half gray.
 
11:07 PM
Not bright lights.
 
user142019
(Not from today but I didn't change it.)
 
Yeah like how Zoidberg has it
 
¬_¬ my office is fucking over bright spot lights with a fucking RED wall in the corner of my eyes
 
also
 
Yeah, that's especially a problem with LED displays, directional bastards.
 
11:08 PM
@Zoidberg I laugh at you and unclog my nose in your direction
 
I don't know why the left screen looks so red in the shot.
 
user142019
@Cicada as if I care.
 
it doesn't look anywhere near as red from here.
 
@Zoidberg cared*
 
Wow.
sudo doesn't work with my deleted password.
What a shitty system. =[
 
11:09 PM
su - username
you're just terrible
 
@DomagojPandža And still the poet :) Nice monitors (Dell 30" maybe?)
 
I expect to be able to sudo and then typein a big fat chunk of nothing when prompted for my password.
 
no
sudo requires configuration
use su
 
Also, su fails too.
TIL Ubuntu sucks dick.
 
@DeadMG different frame rates
 
user142019
11:10 PM
Use Arch Linux.
 
@Rapptz They're identical models, the right one is just a very slightly newer revision.
 
user142019
Not Ubuntu Ubuntu is worse than Windows Vista.
 
@DeadMG between your camera and the refresh rate
 
@DeadMG Oh, cameras usually try to compensate based on photometry, to accomodate the human visual system (sensitivity to different freq.), they weigh shit poorly in poorly lit environments (our way of life is discriminated against on so many levels)
 
@Rapptz oic.
 
11:11 PM
@ThePhD then visudo and change your sudoers file
 
@ThePhD Stop making a fool of yourself?
 
user142019
I don't even have sudo installed.
 
@Cicada Permission denied, which means I need to sudo or su in. Guess which commands don't work? :3c
 
:facepalm:
 
<---- :facepalm:
 
user142019
11:12 PM
:handpalm:
 
just log in as root SOMEHOW and visudo
 
:napalm:
 
tty1 terminal, yay
 
@sehe Those are Samsung LEDs, 24". I've always wanted the super-resolution Dells, but those fuckers can't fit on my desk. And I like my desk. So, I just upgraded to 2xGTX690. :D
 
:handgrenade:
 
11:12 PM
@ThePhD Oh hey. SKILLZ
 
:cripes:
 
@sehe too soon. :(
 
@DomagojPandža Sweet. I'm running just one 560.
 
@Rapptz how so?
 
user142019
:palmtree:
 
11:13 PM
It's only been 60ish years man.
 
:palmOS:
 
Has to be at least 100.
 
user142019
I saw palmtrees today!
 
@Rapptz hahaha
@Zoidberg poor thing. Think of the therapy costs
 
Look at all these fucks I give
->
 
user142019
11:13 PM
@Cicada There is nothing to look at!
 
@Cicada dang. 2 characters.
Quite a lot.
 
@Zoidberg That's what she said
 
@Cicada Your fucks have weird shapes. Maybe that's why you opted to give those
 
Stop judging on physique
 
user142019
@Cicada indirectly, yes.
 
11:14 PM
 
user142019
@DomagojPandža you cock. Y u JPEG.
 
Here's what they can do in tandem, GPU RT of Duality.
 
dude, that's fucking sweet.
 
1280x720 @ barely 25 FPS. We're still not there. xD
 
These emeralds look awesome!!
 
11:15 PM
@DomagojPandža It looks beautiful, but a bit exaggerated for realism, right (unless you mean overexposed lighting in reality)
 
Yeah, the it's procedural anamorphic glare (no gaussian blooming, that shit looks weirdly uniform).
 
Or perhaps, I'm just ignorant because I'm the only one who can't actually afford to buy stones
 
Lol, what am I barking at, Gaussian is the king of uniform. :D
 
user142019
Most realistic model I ever made was in Maya using mental ray.
 
user142019
11:17 PM
And it still looked like shit.
 
they don't seem to have much to do with hardcore raytracing
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Missing me, aren'tcha? :)
 
www.motion-digital.com :D
 
user142019
Replyfail.
 
I haven't taken care of that shit in quite a while.
 
11:17 PM
lol
 
@sbi amazing failure right there
 
@DomagojPandža creepz
 
@DomagojPandža That visual style looks oddly familiar :P
 
Yeah, I have phases, that was the yellow one. Now I am in the mood for bluish-light grey :$
 
11:18 PM
@DeadMG But it's much nicer than anything Kryostat related - it's subtle gradients IYAM
 
sbi
@Cicada What?
 
@sbi Well, the other people I met here that I hanged out with are all gone now :/
 
@DomagojPandža Explaining the "HardRed" renders
 
@sbi stop pretending
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have just drank a bottle of wine, and am now hearing Yes at ear-damaging loudness. IOW, it's a great night.
 
11:19 PM
@Cicada Srsly. I don't see what you're getting at. He just replied.
 
sbi
@Cicada Pretending what?
 
2 mins ago, by Zoidberg
Replyfail.
 
He messed up the reply, it had no space and only contained the message ID + the message
 
@sehe Basically, you take a color for the refraction paths and stochastically guess where it ends up and how much of the wavelength it loses until it comes to the other side. Can't afford many on the GPU, though. The brute force would kill it. :(
 
sbi
@Rapptz And how in the world is that "amazing"?
 
11:20 PM
It was pretty amazing.
 
@sbi I didn't say it, so I don't know.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz That's called Greyscales, I think. I just read about it in a book.
 
@DomagojPandža Looks great. The 'head model' demo on the main web page too
 
sbi
@Rapptz Oh, I thought you were trying to explain the insect's amazement.
 
@sehe Do note: "Special thanks to Infinite Realities for the Head Scan model used to demonstrate Duality's capabilities."
Those crazy fuckers have some mean equipment for capture of 3D geometry. Makes me jelly just thinking.
 
11:22 PM
@DomagojPandža Well. It still gots to be rendered :)
 
@sehe Ahahah, you wouldn't believe how many people are more impressed by the head itself than the rendering. :D
 
It has acne though
realism
 
@DomagojPandža The head is nice too. And I appreciate the detail. I also appreciate that rendering that detail, at high frequency and fidelity is the accomplishment
 
Same scene, different refraction wavelength. :D
 
11:24 PM
@Cicada Those seem like cuts to me.
From shaving.
@DomagojPandža Pretty bright.
 
The poor geometry is evident at higher resolutions. Well, fuck. :D
I have never seen a real diamond in my life, so I just picture them as well, bright. :D
If only area shadows were as easy with RT+rasterization approaches as they are with RT. :(
But hey, when you can't compute it, fake it.
 
Ell
Woah that head is awesome
 
Just when I was becoming proud of Duality, the PS4 event came around and some of those demos blew my mind. I'm still hoping it's just a bunch of fake ass shit because they didn't even show the damn console.
 
Ell
I wonder what gpu is required to render it at 60Hz
 
sbi
@thecoshman Actually, that's more like "eye emmm", or something alike. Oh — it's you, so I have to explain that: It sounds similar (at least it does so when pronounced using your language's rules), but they are other words, really. Well, nonsense words, in fact.
@thecoshman And that's putting it very mildly.
 
11:28 PM
@DomagojPandža The CPU spec is particularly uninspiring.
 
Woo, dropped compile times.
 
God help us, he's going through the transcript from 9 days ago.
7
 
but they could have a next-gen GPU from AMD to power graphical effects.
 
sbi
@ThePhD Pick 'em up again!
 
@DomagojPandža oh, you mean like every other time they demo'd a new console?
 
11:29 PM
besides, console will always be somewhat more efficient than PC because they have fewer abstraction layers to go through
 
Xeo
Woah
Hi ape
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shall I bring out that embarrassing quote from you two months ago?
 
Ell
Isn't it rather games can be developed for a specific card
Meh same thing I guess
 
Xeo
@sbi Wow, just like a mother.
 
11:29 PM
@Ell Yeah.
 
Yup, and the memory-processor discrepancy is much smaller. Not to mention the smaller OS footprint and other crap.
 
sbi
@Xeo You wish.
 
Xeo
@sbi Also, yes please.
 
@DomagojPandža But three years from now, you'll be like "LOL PS4" and they'll be like "Well, fucknuggets."
 
11:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Pain forever.
 
sbi
@Xeo You still on UMTS?
 
Ell
I feel like a child at an adults party now, all the lounge "classics" are here
 
Xeo
@sbi No, I got my awesome 50mbit VDSL now
 
Ell
Yeah when the price of the titan lowers
 
sbi
@Ell Actually, you are a child at an adult's party. Well, at a young adult's party, that is. Most of the "lounge classics" are young adults, at best.
 
11:32 PM
@Ell most of the people here are still 20s
 
Ell
yeah I know, but you all seem so authoritative and mature
7
 
sbi
@Xeo So why do you want me to go hunting through the transcript for your pleasure? Are you too dumb to do that yourself? is that the effect of working in the games industry?
 
@Xeo You know, on one hand, I'm really curious about what he is referring to, but on the other hand, I think I don't want to know.
 
@Ell ahahaha
i'm starring this
 
user142019
 
Xeo
11:33 PM
@sbi I have no idea what kind of quote you're even referring to, so how would I know what is the right answer?!
 
user142019
> We have nothing to do and a lot of money let's make octocats for fun.
 
sbi
@Cicada We all knew you feel the the same without you blurting it out like that.
 
@Ell ahahaha
 
@sbi I have to maintain my character
 
sbi
@Xeo Oh c'mon! Show a bit of enthusiasm! Oh, right. I forgot. Your job. Well, here you go, kiddo.
 
11:35 PM
is that it
i'm terribly disappointed
 
sbi
@Cicada What character?
 
@sbi the sarcastic bug character
although i'm slowly transitioning to something else
 
I am disappointed too.
 
sbi
@Cicada I'd try to find something better for you, but for him, this should be enough to keep him entertained.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Story of your life, huh?
 
He has low standards
 
11:36 PM
Lately, I've been also trying to be less retarded at art and shit, so I started modeling a starship bridge.
 
Ow, you're really mean today.
 
Ell
I found out just know that lighting isn't realtime or something?
 
To my surprise, CG forums haven't ridiculed me. :$
 
sbi
@Cicada Oh, right. You're back to being an insect again.
 
Actually, I'm dropping the insect shell
 
Ell
11:37 PM
@domagoj that is pretty darn kickass. I wish I could model like that!
 
@DomagojPandža I couldn't get anything out of Blender that one time I tried it.
 
Ell
How do people get that awesome matte white material? >.<
 
That's ambient occlusion. :D
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, I'm mean all the time. It's just that some days I manage better to keep this in check.
 
@sbi Look, I'm even changing gender. In a month I'll pick an average male nickname and blend in like a fish in water.
 
11:38 PM
Take a point, shoot rays stochastically away, calculate how many of those bastards hit nearby surfaces.
It works best when you have geometric features that change a lot.
Also, you can do it in screenspace (SSAO, CryTek). There's also horizon-based AO and temporally stable horizon-based AO.
 
Ell
Ahh I thought it as ambient occlusion, but never looked right for me. Maybe its because my models were low poly and sucky
I tried to make a camel but it turned out with an anteater head
 
user142019
Time to piss and sleep goodbye.
 
lol
 
Ell
@zoidberg bye now
 
I could barely make a cube thing.
 
user142019
11:41 PM
Cube? Open Blender, done.
 
Wow, DeadMG really sucks.
 
You need references, without references, even drawn ones - you'll lose yourself. My mistake upstairs is that I tried to make the whole thing by feel.
 
sbi
@Cicada You and "blending in"? Haha! Whatever we're talking about, you'd blend in like a rhino in a flock of flamingos.
 
Ell
I sort of got away with an uber low poly little house :3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, it was my first time.
 
11:42 PM
@sbi shhhh bby~~ i'll show u how its done xx~~
 
sbi
@DeadMG See, you even already suck the first time you're trying to do something.
 
user142019
@MooingDuck oneboxfail
 
quiet you
 
Ell
@domagoj I did actually model a face once which I thought Was pretty okay, but I used a reference and I thought that was cheating :3
 
Ell
11:42 PM
But if the pros do it then that means I can :D
 
@DomagojPandža What exactly do you mean?
references as in prior art?
 
sbi
There's always some idiot who has to consult google even for the most obvious mental images.
 
Ell
Now its a matter Of getting the refeerences haha
 
sbi
@Cicada What's happened to your keyboard? Didn't you buy it just a year ago? And you already broke it? Bad girl!
 
Xeo
Ape's in a good mood today, huh
 
11:44 PM
@sbi Well that's your punishment for not picking a better mental image. Typical of primates.
 
sbi
@DeadMG He wasn't returning to your oneboxfail, I think.
 
3D modeling is, as far as I understand it, not an art form. Well, for most purposes. You'd be branded a technical artist. You basically take concept artist's crap, usually he lays it all out for you
 
@sbi I bought it in august and I'm on my laptop atm. Also please stop calling me "girl" thank you. Don't you see I'm trying to change??
 
@Xeo He's had a bottle of wine...
 
11:44 PM
@sbi Its easier to admire the mastery if I can physically see it
 
Load it in, and try to form a topology. Ensure smoothing groups, drop in Zbrush, add hardcore details, return to 3ds max with displacement maps and normal maps.
 
sbi
@Cicada You mean it's typical for primates that ducks can't follow their mental images?
 
Ell
I always defended 3d artists when they people say Its not art. I find it amazing
 
@sbi Happens all the time.
 
Xeo
@Cicada For a father, his daughter is always going to be his little girl.
 
11:45 PM
This also has intermediate steps, unwrapping UV coordinates for mapping of disp/norm maps and crap.
 
@Xeo I have no common ancestor with this ball of hair.
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Yeah, that's always the case for lower life forms. They have to be able to touch it, in order to grasp it.
 
sbi
@Cicada Nope.
 
This is a bit of progress before the doors were made.
 
11:45 PM
@DomagojPandža Doesn't Max handle UV co-ordinates?
 
Yup, it does. But you have to manually unwrap them if you want 2 or less seams to appear.
 
@sbi That must be your tired old eyes failing you again!
 
Looks very nasty, Mass Effect Normandy's bridge/CIC has one right in front. They couldn't hide it, I guess.
 
user142019
In Maya it unwraps the object for you and you have to reshape, scale and rotate textures.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, it only was 3/4 of a bottle. And I took 2hrs to drain it. So it's not all that bad, actually.
 
Xeo
11:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did that bottle contain some warped for of Mario's super star, like, say, a sarcasm star?
 
sbi
@Cicada Yeah. Those damn bugs are so tinsy, I hardly take notice.
 
@DomagojPandža Or just didn't have enough time.
 
Maya really has that raw feel to it, they don't even try to name properties, they just use variable names as left by the programmers. :D
 
sbi
@Xeo My mood is always good. It's just that sometimes the world doesn't appreciate it.
 
@DomagojPandža So do you prefer 3DS Max?
 
sbi
11:48 PM
@DomagojPandža If you think Mayas are raw, you should try Incas.
 
Ell
I don't understand how uv unwrapping can work - I don't understand how any spherical textures won't be deformed
 
@sbi And these primates are so fat they can't see under their belly!
 
@DeadMG Yup, 3ds max -> Zbrush -> Mudbox -> Photoshop
 
hmm
 
Ell
I have 3ds and Maya for free
 
11:48 PM
Although I prefer 3ds max to Zbrush for hard surface modeling.
 
sbi
@Cicada That's what we invented mirrors for.
 
@Ell It cost me quite a penny to get them, student - right? :D
 
@sbi You didn't invent them.
 
@sbi I need someone to get drunk with this weekend. I'm paying. Wanna join?
 
Ell
11:49 PM
Yeah student haha
I even got AutoCAD, I just can't resist all the free software :P
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Haha! No, I got kids and a granny here this weekend. If you wanna get drunk, bring those bottles here.
 
Lend him the granny
Everyone's happy
 
lol
 
Jesus Christ, I can't believe this shit. My damn iPhone 5 has like 7 dead pixels in the lower right corner, you can barely see them because of the pixel density. But it's really starting to bug me. :(
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's happened that makes you wanna get drunk, anyway? is that job still Ok? Did you cross Wolfgang in a wrong mood? Did you get on Micha's nerves?
 
11:51 PM
44 mins ago, by DeadMG
user image
look in the very upper right of the left screen
 
I thought that was just a wire, damn! :D
 
iTunes? Even DeadMG's infected.
 
@DomagojPandža Nope.
 
sbi
@DomagojPandža Talk to @Cicada. When something's bugging you, she's the one you wanna talk to about it.
 
dunno what happened, I try to take care of my screens.
 
11:52 PM
@Cicada Well, when you have all that RAM, might as well spend some.
2
 
@sbi I told you. I'm getting rid of the insect shell! Time for a nick change.
@EtiennedeMartel How much does the rosbif have?
 
Damn, those feels. But the first time you spot it, your heart just shatters into a million pieces.
 
@Cicada rosbif?
 
sbi
@Cicada What you told me is that you want to get rid of that insect image. That's not the same at all.
 
Ell
Be "silverfish"
 
11:53 PM
@DeadMG That's you (it means british)
 
@DomagojPandža Yeah, it's like, "FUUUUUUU".
 
And you're hoping it's a smudge.
 
Ell
Silverfish is a good language bane.
 
@sbi No no, I am getting rid of it. You're misunderstanding.
 
but
the LHS screen is my oldest screen- three years now I think
maybe older.
 
Ell
11:53 PM
I have a smudge on my screen
 
it's served me well
 
sbi
@Cicada <potter_looking_at_malfoy> You wish. </potter_looking_at_malfoy>
 
Ell
But It's like behind the screen somehow
 
@sbi Nah. Everything's fine. Though Micha still scares me for some reason :|
 
@Cicada 6 jiggerbytes.
I could have more if I wanted, but I don't need any more.
 
sbi
11:54 PM
@DeadMG I can tell that your parents are still paying for your procrastinating lifestyle.
 
Ell
Whew close
 
@sbi By... the age of my screen?
 
@sbi <some_random_tag> I will </some_random_tag>
@DeadMG Why don't you get eleventy?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can't blame you for that. He _is: scaring. (He was way less so when I joined that company 14 years ago. Time hasn't improved him.)
 
I don't remember how old the other one is, but it's not that much younger.
 
11:55 PM
Welcome back @DomagojPandža :)
 
I've had both of them for as long as I've been here.
 
Ell
Think I'm gonna hit the hay. Nighty night all :)
 
sbi
@Cicada Just keep wishing for it. Hope dies last.
 
gknn? oh god
 
infact, I've not spent a significant amount of money on hardware for about three years.
 
11:56 PM
@sbi Technically, it's false.
 
Thanks, Tony. It's still a bit weird to be back. :D
 
@TonyTheLion I saw a link back there to a discussion many years ago and saw your screen as "Tony the Tiger".
 
sbi
@DeadMG Those are pretty big screens, and quite new ones, compared to your income.
 
and I was like, "Oh yeah, that actually happened once."
 
@DeadMG ahahaha the olden days.
 
11:56 PM
lol, "many years ago"
 
@DeadMG lol yes, I was a different breed of pussy once :)
4
 
@sbi Nah. I worked the summer before university and saved the money I used on these.
 
@sbi Anyway, I'll think about it and let you know.
 
@sbi and how are you?
 
sbi
@DeadMG That's because you hadn't have to pay for your living with it.
 
11:57 PM
Maybe you'll get to hear my terrible attempts at making German sentences.
 
@DomagojPandža Oh, I finally got a diagnosis for my stomach, btw.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Drunk. Is there any better state to be in?
 
@sbi I'll have you know you failed the emphasize on "is".
 
@DeadMG What was it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh I've heard those :P
 
11:58 PM
@DomagojPandža Gallstones.
 
@sbi Yes, sober. :)
 
@sbi unconcious
 
It took them so long to figure out?!
 
@sbi Actually... that year I went into my overdraft.
 
@DeadMG Woah, this is news I hadn't heard.
 
sbi
11:58 PM
@Cicada You poor creature! Had to sit on your hands mandibles for 2 whole minutes! That must have been, what? 3% of your expected lifespan?
 
@DeadMG Hm.. interesting.
 
@TonyTheLion Really? I announced it pretty loudly when I got it.
 
I'm glad they finally figured it out.
 
`result in(state_type& __state, const extern_type* __from,
const extern_type* __from_end, const extern_type*& __from_next,
intern_type* __to, intern_type* __to_end,
intern_type*& __to_next) const`

Sweet mother of retard.
 
@Rapptz Well, I'm not feeling so good about it.
 
11:59 PM
@DeadMG I guess I wasn't here.
 
@sbi The most exciting 3% lifespan of my life. :)
 
Why?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Why do you even try to argue with him right now? You know he's not gonna let you escape. I guess you're a masochist after all.
 
Gallstones are pretty minor IMHO.
 
sbi
@DomagojPandža Of course hope is false! We just don't talk about that!
 
11:59 PM
gallstones can be asymptomatic for a long time (apparently) and there's no record of them causing such specific food reactions.
 
sbi
@Cicada How come we guessed?
 
Oh man, I miss this room when I'm not in it, which is not much, but still enough to miss it.
 

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