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9:00 AM
@TonyTheLion two punny
 
AWWW
SOMEONE BEAT MY ANSWER BY 4 SECONDS
WHAT A CHEATER
 
> quality irish journalism on the radio on the way in, Police have found a rocket launcher and a warhead in a house in belfast, experts believe the weapons are......designed to kill
 
man, it's freezing in this office
Employer, Y U NO HEATING?
 
@TonyTheLion our heating was fucked last week. Some sort of pressure drop in the gas network meant some safety valve got closed, so the heating was off for like three days until the gas people did some magic
 
that sucks
it's just always cold in this fricking office
I mean why can't this place be heated?
 
9:04 AM
@TonyTheLion "why can't you bring a jumper"
besides, it's England, heating probably is on full whack already
 
@thecoshman I do
it's still cold
 
@TonyTheLion quilt?
 
lol
now you're pushing it
 
Damn! SO banned mew
All these boneheaded questions get all sorts of points but I ask something like "Global Objects vs. References" and I get my question closed
 
9:11 AM
I liked this site too
 
@TonyTheLion nah
take it outside
 
Thanks @ThePhD, I learnt this today from u. — Wayou 3 mins ago
Zomg <333
This feeling. <33333
 
Think if I rep whore they will reinstate me?
I'm just so $%^ busy
 
@RolandSams Not really
 
@RolandSams no, you asked dick questions, you got a just reward
 
9:13 AM
Goin' now all. Bye.
 
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot :) — Alpay 18 secs ago
THIS IS SOOO EASY MOOODE
I'M JUST LOOKING AT DOCUMENTATION
 
alight, calm down
 
Buahahaha oh my god. x3
 
@RolandSams Learn to solve your own problems
 
don't make me plonk yet another person
 
9:14 AM
@ThePhD Congrats, you found the secret
 
@thecoshman Sorry. x3
 
@ThePhD Funny, that's exactly how I got my gold badge
 
@CatPlusPlus oh there was a secret :P
 
I've answered questions on things I've never seen before by looking at docs for 5 minutes
 
yep, I've done the same
silly noobs
forget to use Google
 
9:17 AM
I really think they should give you a warning before they ban you... Just some constuctive critisism
 
I also figured out I can snatch rep away from other answers.
 
@RolandSams they do, it's called closed questions
@ThePhD what do you mean?
 
Simply by tailoring my answers to require the least amount of effort on the OP's part.
 
So you send them teh codez?
 
oh I see
 
9:18 AM
For example, someone posted a better version of my answer to an OpenGL question.
Both of us had 1 line of code. His was better, and would work in more situations.
 
Note to self: turning things on before plugging them in does not make them turn on
 
But my line of code looked more like the OP's.
And changed less parameters.
So I got the answer and the upvote.
So broken. x3
 
Well I am going to go and accept the fact I'm on my own. Thanks for all the help. You might see me around
 
@ThePhD is it, though? Your answer was the one that was most helpful to the OP.
 
Yeah. But in a few moments when he resizes his window to where the height is greater than the width, that line of code will bugger out so hard. :3c
 
9:21 AM
@ThePhD and then he can look at the other answer he got as well. :) Or he can extrapolate from your answer and build something more general.
I mean, the goal on a Q&A site isn't to make someone write perfect code. It's just to answer the questions they have. If you answered his question, then hey, the system works. ;)
 
@CatPlusPlus makes them turn on that bit faster though
@RolandSams do not just come here to ask your questions instead, we will burn you alive
 
basically this ^
 
@jalf but the system can never work!
maaaan
 
He'll throw it on the groooooooound.
 
@jalf Q: "Why doesn't X work this way? I already have a workaround <dumps workaround for all to see> but I'd just like to know why X doesn't behave the way I think it should" A: "try this <workaround lifted verbatim from question>"
 
9:24 AM
LOL shit. jquery questions get answered QUICK
 
@ThePhD Yes... yes they do
 
Raaaaargh, plink sounds again!
 
Guess I'm not doing anything with that anytime soon. x3
 
Sorry jalf ;)
 
@BoltClock could you please go yell at someone to make it possible to disable them on a per-account basis?
 
9:25 AM
I want plink to be replaced by bwoo
 
Bwoo?
 
@jalf I'm glad I am not the only one who hates that noise
 
It is ridiculous that they reenable themselves periodically as the cookie expires
 
@jalf yes this!
 
Stack Exchange rooms have bwoo instead of plink
 
9:26 AM
@CatPlusPlus I don't care what the noise is, I simply want it to go
 
@thecoshman But the way the system is designed, the OP got both answers. How is that not a good thing? :)
 
@jalf I actually have a mate question on this you know
 
@jalf But I get the upboats and question answer points.
 
You get the easy "here and now" fix requiring minimal changes, as well as the more in-depth one
 
Remember Mark Trapp? He was like "turn off your system volume this is not SE's business"
 
9:27 AM
@ThePhD the OP is free to upvote the other guy too, if he finds the answer helpful
 
13
Q: Chat notification sounds have become like icicles repeatedly driven through my ears

BoltClock's a Unicorn(Yes, I said "through my ears", not just "into my ears".) It looks like HTML5 <audio> elements are now used to produce notification sounds in chat. And good heavens have they become startlingly loud. Please lower the volume of these notifications — or do whatever it is that needs to be do...

 
14
Q: Why is the 'plink' noise in chat not an account setting?

thecoshmanFirst, let's explain what I am on about. That little 'plink' noise you get by default when some one posts a message at you on chat. I HATE it with a passion! At first I was ok with the noise, as I could simply disable it and problem solved. Except it's not solved, it is merely put aside for a wh...

 
@BoltClock What was he smoking at the time? That is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard
 
@BoltClock what a dick
 
@thecoshman Because programming is hard~
 
9:28 AM
@thecoshman I'll pass that on to the team and harass them every waking minute about it
2
 
Yay~
 
@BoltClock please do :D
@CatPlusPlus ¬_¬
 
Xeo
Fwah, finally at work
 
I love how @Xeo says "finally at work/home" with the same enthusiasm
 
@Xeo that's... a good thing?
 
Xeo
9:30 AM
@thecoshman Yeah, missing work would be bad. :P
 
@BoltClock that deserves a star
 
@BoltClock whilst you are in a mod to listen to our demands requests, can you work on getting rid of the ability to edit messages that are automatically added, like room topic changes or moving posts
 
@thecoshman don't distract him! He might forget about the plink
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Should I propose this as a dupe? :P
38
Q: How is "int main(){(([](){})());}" valid C++?

MysticialI recently came across the following esoteric piece of code. int main(){(([](){})());} Reformat it as follows to make it more readable: int main(){ (([](){})()); // Um... what?!?! } But I can't get my head around how (([](){})()) is valid code. It doesn't look like function pointer...

 
And give us ability to ban people
 
Xeo
9:32 AM
@thecoshman What's your gripe with those? oO
 
Muahahah. I just got my numerical methods assignment. Easiest one ever. I got sin(x)
 
@thecoshman "in a mod" I see what you did there
 
@BoltClock he's grammar is usually strange
 
@BoltClock It wasn't intentional
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz You're not better there
 
9:33 AM
Your*
 
@Xeo whooooosh.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Okay, that was the other option.
 
Hi everybody. Iam creating repositories for an application, and i would like to get some advice : for Delete() method, what is the best practice : Delete(Employee e) or Delete(int employeeId) ?
 
If I say "grammar" in a sentence, you can safely assume all gramatical errors are intentional
@tigrou what on earth would first one do? Delete a temporary? o.O
 
Xeo
Btw, I noticed a slight drawback of my Debian installation - since it's from a live-ISO, anything I do is reset once it restarts. :<
 
9:35 AM
Neither because you're duplicating map/unordered_map interface also stop calling them repositories
 
*installation*
*live CD*
 
@BartekBanachewicz : dont understand , delete() is supposed to delete an employee record in database based on primary key "ID" that's it.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz *live ISO*, lern2read
 
@tigrou Delete() method on what?
 
@tigrou delete is a keyword
@Xeo mmmm... ah! I know. Convert .ISO to .img then, so you'll have write access. I work that way on my old androphone
 
9:37 AM
Someone's confusing SQL with something else
 
:7955359 ... Wat?
 
@ThePhD wat?
 
@BoltClock : EmployeeRepository.Delete() @BartekBanachewicz : let;s say delete is not a reserved keyword
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz YUMI doesn't like .IMG, it seems. The ISO originally was an IMG, but since it was uncompressed, I could just rename it.
 
~repository~
 
9:38 AM
You said That's ... and then nothing else. :c
 
@ThePhD nvm it.
@tigrou did you try to use map?
 
user142019
Halt! Bleibt stehen!
 
Grosnor?
 
It's a poor Java-style ORM
It's probably a Java question
 
Also, let's say delete isn't a keyword and I'm a Unicorn.
 
user142019
9:39 AM
Java is bad and ORM is bad.
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, I'M a unicorn
 
Awww
 
Hell it's not even an ORM it's just bad
 
user142019
All languages should support @ in front of keyword to make it identifier like C#.
 
I tried to answer a C++ Tempalte question
But some lame 8K person beat me to the punch =[
 
9:40 AM
@ThePhD Tempalte questions are hard, yeah
 
user142019
Reputation is irrelevant. Why do you mention it.
 
@ThePhD being first doesn't mean being correct. If you think your answer still adds something post anyway.
 
user142019
Yummy, orange juice and ciabatta with ham.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg How is that different from prepending, say, _?
 
It takes more space in the language spec
 
9:42 AM
@Zoidberg I dunno. D: I just felt like the underdog I guess.
 
user142019
@Xeo _ changes the identifier.
 
@ThePhD if you keep repeating it we will start to eventually mock you about it
 
q_q plsno.
 
user142019
extern "C" void _delete() vs. extern "C" void @delete().
 
So as long as you don't post images and multiline messages, it's fine :P
 
9:43 AM
Yes this is a very useful use case
 
@CatPlusPlus don't take it away from me!
 
Xeo
Hmm, damn, I thought I set up my ssh correctly at home, but I only get a connection timeout from here... :s
 
@Xeo well, it's closer, but still not [](){}
 
life is irrelevant, why do you keep mentioning it? :P
 
@Zoidberg We've already settled that C libraries are unusable from C++
 
user142019
9:43 AM
[]<>(){}() ftw
 
@TonyTheLion you got your little emo fringe yet?
 
@Xeo You should have actually tested it after setup...
Also, hi.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how, from the inside?
Also, hi.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did! I could use a normal hostname to connect from the same machine. :(
 
@thecoshman kek
 
Xeo
9:45 AM
Although, does SSH only allow one remote host per public key?
If yes, fuck me.
 
fuck you
 
Xeo
:<
 
@Xeo There might be an option to do that, but not by default, I think.
 
5
Q: Best Practice: “One per-user ssh key” or “multiple per-host ssh keys”

Srinivas Possible Duplicate: What’s the common pragmatic strategy for managing key pairs? I was part to a conversation last week about which approach to ssh keys is more “secure”. Note, that when contemplating “secure” we were trying to factor in human behavior (the most insecure part of any ...

 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm
 
9:46 AM
it seems that multiple hosts per ssh key is possible
 
Xeo
Although that wouldn't explain a timeout
 
but maybe not recommended, but who cares about that
security is irrelevant anyway
 
Xeo
I have a weird feeling that my ISP decided to change my IP again, and I don't yet have a cronjob set up to automatically propagate the change to my DNS provider.
 
static IP FTW
 
user142019
Keep private key private and whop no security issues.
 
9:48 AM
Lol
 
lol - ftfy
 
Look at all these descriptors for C++'s description:
 
user142019
It ain't rocket science.
 
> C++ is a widely-used, statically-typed, free-form, compiled, multi-paradigm, multi-level, imperative, general-purpose, object-oriented programming language based on C.
 
moar adjectives needed
> based on C
 
9:48 AM
free-form, compiled, multi-paradigm, multi-level, imperative, general-purpose
 
Lawl
 
user142019
"multi-paradigm" is redundant given the terms that follow it.
 
everything is redundant, " C++ is a language" - good enough
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Let's throw in "functional"!
 
user142019
9:49 AM
Dammit Xeo.
 
also crap
oh wait
I'm not supposed to say that
because that makes me a hippocrite
 
user142019
> C++ is a widely-used, statically-typed, free-form, compiled, multi-paradigm, multi-level, imperative, general-purpose, object-oriented bad programming language based on C.
 
user142019
FTFY
 
Will you shut the fuck up already?
 
9:50 AM
I knew it
 
We know that.
 
user142019
Also don't let @CatPlusPlus read it; "compiled".
 
11 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Will you shut the fuck up already?
 
I couldn't agree more Zoidberg
 
9:50 AM
well this escalated quickly
 
It's like 4 or 5 people telling him to stop
 
user142019
Escalators are for pussies.
 
I've read transcript from yesterday
 
what?
 
user142019
Use stairs already.
 
9:51 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I reached 400 rep! :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz yea, but he's a child
 
user142019
(They're usually much faster too.)
 
See? I can contribute to Stackoverflow! <3
 
Congratz. But why are you mentioning that to me?
 
user142019
You can contribute to something you cannot even spell correctly!
 
user142019
9:52 AM
How wonderful.
 
Xeo
Are you trying to be a Tomalak right now?
 
user142019
Of course not.
 
user142019
Why would I try to be like a douchebag.
 
11 hours ago, by Tony The Lion
@EtiennedeMartel No. I gave him enough time already
your own words.
 
I know
I fail
starbait worked
 
9:54 AM
Hey @Xeo, still writing that thing about the overload ranking? No pressure.
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion except it didn't.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't yet get the chance to actually write it. :/
 
anyway, I'm off for labs. Will log in work in a few hours. CU.
 
user142019
Phew, I almost read "tabs".
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also, I have been thinking some more about it, and you really need to make sure that the overloads are otherwise equally valid (†). You can't just reverse the natural ranking of two overloads. (†) Or that their original ranking is related in the same way the overriden one should be. /cc @LucDanton
 
9:55 AM
... Hm. I don't know why I mentioned it to Robot.
 
@Xeo That's usually the case, no? You have two things that take the same T<ref?> and constrain them with SFINAE.
 
@TonyTheLion huh?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, usually.
it's just something to keep in mind
 
Anyway I guess I'll have to finish something myself for Monday. :/
 
I didn't use chat enough before becoming a mod to know, is timeout unavailable to room owners?
 
9:57 AM
You mean we don't have flood control?
We do.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, a mod option "timeout"
 
@thecoshman Don't mind me, I'm not making sense today.
 
No, like, the option "timeout". Not just flood control in general
 
Xeo
That temporarily freezes a room
 
9:58 AM
Well, no.
 
@BoltClock nor can room owners temp ban people, if that is what you are asking
 
Xeo
@BoltClock Nope, we don't have that
 
Ah, and before I leave, Check. This. Out.
 
OK, that explains why Mysticial being a room owner asked me about it
 
Xeo
We only have the full-stop, fortress-level spell called "Gallery-Mode".
 
9:58 AM
And why it's listed under "Moderator" ;)
@Xeo Ah
 
1858: According to testicle expert Dr TB Curling, two Austrian soldiers have been rendered impotent - by minor bullet wounds to the neck.
There's so much wrong in that sentence.
Been thinking about making an Unicode-related post. Not a rant this time :) But I'm not sure what topic I can write more than two paragraphs about.
 
Seek mentorship from tchrist
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Very interesting, although the usual complaint: How to disambiguate commands from normal gesture. :/
 
Cue MYO Sports, the game.
 
Xeo
What about accidental input?

We use a unique gesture that is unlikely to occur normally to enable and disable control using the MYO. The MYO alerts the user via haptic feedback to let them know when it is enabled and detecting movement.
 
10:04 AM
Do you really see yourself using that for anything other than games?
 
Xeo
Hrhr
The question is of course how easy it is to input and extract gestures, as a developer.
 
It says API, not SDK.
My guess? You'll have to do pruning yourself.
If only Nintendo came out with that.
And used it for the WiiU.
Then their campaign might've meant something and been worthwhile.
 
Xeo
Hm, needs a credit card to preorder.
 
I wonder why I didn't use this before.
@Xeo What where you expecting?
 
@ScottW You mean your bitch (literally)? :)
 
10:10 AM
@Xeo What's the worse that could happen? I'M GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY!
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
@LucDanton heh
 
10:27 AM
FOOD
I REQUIRE FOOD BITCHES
DELIVER UNTO YOUR GOD SOME FOOD
 
user142019
$food = 'food';
require $food;
 
9
Q: C++-equivalent to incompletely intialized arrays in C?

towiWhen I transform code from C to C++ I sometimes encounter language constructs that are C, but compatible with C++. Usually I want to transform the code in the least intrusive way. But I have one case where I find that very difficult: In C you can declare an array and initializing... well... part...

Indices trick anyone?
 
That moment you realize you suck at programming.
 
@DeadMG I will do when he shows up
 
@TonyTheLion What happened?
 
user142019
10:39 AM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes my code works in debug but not release build. I don't know why.
I don't see any obvious UB either
@Zoidberg dat pun
 
@TonyTheLion then it's very likely non-obvious UB :)
 
Binary search for the change that caused it to start failing?
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion #ifndef NDEBUG!
 
@jalf Now you're stating the obvious :)
 
10:42 AM
@TonyTheLion nice to see a pun that really is a pun and not just a malapropism
 
Who kidnapped thecoshman?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hehe
 
@thecoshman oh I didn't even know that thing had a name, besides pun
 
Xeo
Robot, you already writing an answer?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ) I am trying to clean up after the mess
 
10:43 AM
@Xeo No, not really. That's why I mentioned it here.
 
Xeo
I'll go ahead then.
 
@TonyTheLion not sure if malapropism covers when you miss spell a word though, for comic effect
 
Xeo
Hm, just doing auto* p = &arr[n]; is not problematic when arr is uninitialized, right?
 
@thecoshman hehe
 
@Xeo I suppose if you don't dereference p until it is initialized, then it isn't a problem
 
10:47 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what? seriously, I don't see what is wrong with that
 
@thecoshman You didn't misspell "misspell" for comic effect?
@Xeo Don't think so. I don't see how it would be a problem, though.
 
user142019
Stupid documentation.
 
Xeo
Anyways, nah, nvm the indices one, that doesn't really have an advantage over ecatmur's answer.
 
user142019
Y u no tell me which headers to include.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, nope. I simply have problems with abstaining from the space bar
 
10:49 AM
@Xeo Yes, it does. You get static init.
 
@Zoidberg it's more fun this way
 
user142019
Nah.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Static maybe, but not constexpr, right?
 
All of it.
 
@Zoidberg what you breaking you balls over anyway?
 
Xeo
10:51 AM
Erm. Enlighten me, I can't think of how right now.
 
user142019
Boost.Context
 
@Zoidberg huh, I thought boost had rather good docs for things like that?
 
user142019
I says #include <boost/context/all.hpp> (which doesn't seem to include everything) and that's about it.
 
user142019
There is no API reference either.
 
ah, well.... here you go ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
 
Xeo
10:52 AM
Oh wait, OP doesn't have a problem with all other values being initialized aswell.
That lifts the constexpr restriction, then.
 
@Xeo Oh, wait, yeah, not constexpr. :/
 
user142019
Well, there is an API reference but it is incomplete. :P
 
For legal, not technical reasons.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you don't want to initialize the other elements.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yep, reading from uninitialized.
 
?
What would your solution look like?
 
Xeo
10:54 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nvm
Still thinking about it.
 
This was my idea.
You just need to build the right pack.
I've done this before for computing compile-time tables for some crap I don't remember.
Before I decided to say screw it and stick to code generation.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that is mad shit @_@
 
@thecoshman I think it's fairly standard issue.
There's nothing overly complex in it...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, I mean the way you are using a template to 'pack' date into it in that way
 
10:59 AM
@Xeo Oh, right, you can make it constexpr if it's not static. Right.
 

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