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21:00
@набиячлевэлиь that makes no sense whatsoever
I think I wanna get drunk.
user3790646
CS_STEM if you're still using console, do yourself a favor and use cin.get()
If I had 7" screen then perhaps
@Griwes Just roll with it, okay?
Hey, CS_STEM, do yourself a favour and buy/install a Unix system.
21:00
@BartekBanachewicz size isn't everything.
2
Otherwise desktop iface on Android is just fucking terrible. I only use it to unignore rightfold.
One that in 2015 doesn't need stupid hacks to keep the terminal window open.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ y no just install a GNU/Linux-based OS
@BartekBanachewicz 5.1" here (S5)
@набиячлевэлиь ugh "GNU/Linux"
21:01
I have 4.7" I think. N4 still.
Well. Still. Sucks to make excuses :)
user3790646
the multiple meanings...
im still learning the basics of c++... @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ unix is mac's base isn't it?
I've checked the prices for the iPhone 6s+ and nearly had a seizure
21:02
@CS_STEM Is it
user3790646
yes
I literally just realized that all these "mobile" problems everybody moans about, I never saw them. I just take them in my stride... :(
@BartekBanachewicz An appropriate reaction
I don't know, but Mac is included in the set of OSes where you don't need that stupid hack.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Windows doesn't either.
21:02
Yes. It's annoying. But I won't lower the standard for it (same reason I can't see myself using IRC instead of lounge /cc @thecoshman)
#MAC-SUCKS-ASS
@набиячлевэлиь I'm still going to buy it
besides installing Unix is throwing out the baby, the wife, and the house with the bathwater
The set is actually "all OSes" - "Microsoft OSes"
@BartekBanachewicz URGH
user3790646
21:03
who the hell needs mac
What puppy said, actually
@Puppy Oooo. Perfect marketing strategy
You can just open the fucking console widnow
You fully buyin' in to Applel?
@BartekBanachewicz Win+R -> "cmd"
@набиячлевэлиь OSX and iOS integration is superb
21:04
Yes, I need a drink
Besides, I need a new phone anyway
@BartekBanachewicz Tiiiiiight couuuuuuupliiiiiiiiiiiiiing
user3790646
@CS_STEM Add me to skype
@BartekBanachewicz veeeeeendooooooor loooooock iiiiiin
21:04
@набиячлевэлиь you forgot the "ENTER" key.
@набиячлевэлиь Vendor looooock-innnnnn
@sehe first
@BartekBanachewicz Gooooooood ooooooobject (Applel servers)
@Andrey don't use it...
@Griwes :(
21:04
Do I look like I give a flying fuck about vendor lockin
I want functional devices
user3790646
@CS_STEM Then facebook
give me a reason
Anyways fuck Mac discussions
@BartekBanachewicz At some point you will.
@BartekBanachewicz Not at all. I do remember.
21:05
But eh. You'll probably have to learn that by experience.
system("pause") is only useful for trivial programs that don't matter anyway
Let's focus on the beer
@Griwes Then, it no longer matters
user3790646
@CS_STEM You don't need one
user3790646
@CS_STEM I'm your friend ._.'
21:06
topkek
ITT we're kicked by sehe
the point was that "pause" give's an output where "pause > nul" does not...
I ate Noodles
Meh
@CS_STEM Hrmmmmm, let's guess why
@Griwes seriously I've had pretty much every desktop and mobile OS in my life already. At this point I just want things to work. I can pay for that, whatever
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ /cc @Nooble
21:07
In python, is there a as {number} goes to 0, do something with {number} loop or statement?
@Andrey FUCK OFF
user3790646
wtf
user3790646
You don't even know me, wtf
@ThePhD for(i <- 420 until 0 by -1)
21:07
Do we kick this guy at this point
user3790646
yes, we do
POWER ABUSE
@набиячлевэлиь ... Wut.
Nah, I'm just kidding, go ahead
21:08
@ThePhD Use Scala
@BartekBanachewicz Yes
Do we plonk this guy at this point?
user3790646
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ no
Damn so far from home still
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yes, both of 'em
21:08
The train is too slow
user3790646
@набиячлевэлиь dammnit
how do you guys write stuff like expts e.g. x^2
@BartekBanachewicz Push it
x^2 looks natural but when it's close to things like x - 2 and other operators spaced like that it looks weird
21:09
@AlexM. All operators have a space between them and operands
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@alex x ** 2
std::pow(x, 2)
enough was enough
Oh look the bear is an owner again
When did that happen
std::pow std::pow
@BartekBanachewicz Yesterday
drops dead
21:10
@набиячлевэлиь Note how I had the constructive solution‌​. And it didn't require ownership privs
pow pow pow
Wrong Khronos.
Oh well.
@sehe I did nuthin'!
You keep saying this
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ gorgeous
@sehe I like that quote and its accent
21:12
... thanks for that kick
It's good that you appreciate it
No problem
We can punch next time.
People should learn from their mistakes
Okay the fuck where am i
@CS_STEM We're here to help suck all your blood out, after all
21:12
@CS_STEM Don't worry, we believe in rehabilitation. How are you feeling now?
Did I miss my station
Oh not yet cool
ITT Bartek is roboring
MSVC 2015 Update 1 will have an experimental implementation of modules.
It's dark outside ok
ITT Barket walks for 3km because he sucks at timing
21:13
Peeps. Everyone so bored that we can't stop jumping on the new guy?
3km is nothing
@Griwes Link that to rebecca.blackfriday
Please. Remember Father Jon
that makes no sense
That's what I'll have to walk from the station anyway
21:13
It does!
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I feel like killing :p
@Griwes Sure as hell does
since I almost quoted from a Gabriel's slide
ugh
21:14
That's the time where I regret motorbikes aren't computer driven
@Griwes Just DO IT
Too bored. I'm out. Behave, kids :)
I know that joke; my point was that my message was not a joke. Ugh.
@BartekBanachewicz You're the computer that drives them
@Griwes We know
21:14
@BartekBanachewicz woot, why is the type of that FP
@Griwes Was it really not :P
@набиячлевэлиь drunk computers don't work so well
^ results in a Num when applied to sth like 5
Better joke than everything I heard all week
@alex magic
21:15
@BartekBanachewicz Drink more vodka
... Yes. It's exactly what I did... Did you see the live sample? — sehe 15 secs ago
sigh
user1804599
hi
so are there any rooms that deal in cmd or batch?
I haven't drunk any vodka
@BartekBanachewicz The higher the relative amount of alcohol in your blood, the less you care
21:16
5 * 5 also results in a num so ** 2 can't be just that
@CS_STEM dude, multiple persons already told you it's a bad, non-portable idea.
@AlexM. FP?
@CS_STEM I hope not.
Sounds good
I dont need it to be portable
21:16
3 mins ago, by Griwes
MSVC 2015 Update 1 will have an experimental implementation of modules.
Isn't x ** y of type Fractional a?
MSVC. Muahahah.
Mm modules
I almost care
21:17
@набиячлевэлиь fail
But will variadics work?
@Griwes Not anymore it ain't
Hey Bartek, whatcha doing these days?
@ThePhD :D
21:17
@Griwes pic is cooler I win :P
Work mostly
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Drinkin' and missing trains
Are you bumping them sexy functional languages or what?
@Griwes Now I'm so afraid. Will they bolt it on top of one of their contraptions like #import "foo.tbl"?
How would they manage if they don't even get an AST going in their compiler
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ floating point
21:18
I spend a lot of time with my gf
How do I know which voltage to buy for my RAM sticks?
@AndyProwl needs moar hitler
Because she leaves soon
:t (5 ** 2)
(5 ** 2) :: Floating a => a
am I doing it wrong?
For where?
21:18
@BartekBanachewicz ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
@sehe I am too afraid to ask.
Wanna visit me in October? (She goes to Germany)
@BartekBanachewicz Where is she going?
It's a real proposal as in
Hey, I go to Germany too
21:18
Judging from previous experiences with Gabriel, I do not want to know the answer.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You guys should hook up.
Maybe I get to... Hmmm.... meet her.
If you want to visit Poland I'll have a place for ya
user1804599
Bartender are you still in NL?
21:19
> We'll just dump the entire process' memory
@Griwes Microsoft has all the potential to kill this feature's reputation before it gets standardized and all the motive to make propaganda... :(
Is she going to be at the Octoberfest?
@elyse nah left on sunday
@elyse nope
@CS_STEM fuk ya' said mate?!
user1804599
21:19
I turned off swap to make my SSD last longer.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ dunno. She's gonna study in Trier
you 'avin' a giiggle there, mate?
I was joking
@sehe Can we just declare MSVC as unfeasible, rather than modules?
@BartekBanachewicz For a second I thought she went to Germany to propose
21:20
@ElimGarak no
@sehe Maybe. But given Gabriel is the author of the proposal... I don't know if there's a difference between having an experimental implementation in MSVC and not having that.
@ElimGarak Of course. I'm afraid how it will rub off on the modules proposal
@Griwes is that... epic burn?
@sehe I don't know. Is it?
And why the hell MSVC? What's up with everyone else?
user1804599
Herb Stutter
21:21
I was not. As in, its gonna be a lone 4 months so if you have a free weekend just buy some cheap tickets @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ @Mr.kbok
user1804599
Herb Slutter
8
Gabriel has... weird point of view on some things.
@CS_STEM takes out Springfield out of rucksack
@Griwes Sounds like it
Okay. Think I figured it out.
21:21
@ElimGarak Clang's ahead of them in terms of experimental modules implementations.
It seems to work.
@ElimGarak The author of the proposal works on MSVC.
> >MSVC
> >works
topkek
@elyse Ah, yeah, Microsoft's personal liason to Bjarne.
@Andrey wrong room
21:22
@Andrey Get a room, you two
@Puppy Does the clang impl actually follow the proposal?
@BartekBanachewicz Where precisely?
@CS_STEM Because he's in love with you ofc
Not your actual address, just, what city
21:22
@набиячлевэлиь slow poke (how on earth did you miss that)
@BartekBanachewicz Thanks, I'll look at ticket prices :p
@Griwes Too old I imagine
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ @Mr.kbok Gdansk airport. I can pick you up from there
@sehe early prototyping sounds like a good idea to me. Even if it's MS the worst thing that can happen is that people will say 'we nees something better'
21:22
*need
@AndyProwl agreed. Still, the nerves. They're real
@AndyProwl or "this is terrible"
@набиячлевэлиь So?
@Griwes that
> you can include any file before the module declaration
topkek
@набиячлевэлиь gotta ask for his e-mail
21:23
well, good night
@CS_STEM takes aim
@Griwes still a good thing that we have something to try and comment on rather than reading words
@MarcoA. good night sweet prince
@набиячлевэлиь you're enjoying this way too much
21:24
@AndyProwl Sure. I'd still prefer either GCC or Clang, though :P
@BartekBanachewicz Wait, nevermind. You said October?
My lessons start on October.
@Griwes yeah
I'm just psychopatic enough to take a lot of joy from trellin' the newbs
@Andrey refrains from posting the Public service announcement
@Andrey switches target
Current Status: At Michael Wong's talk on atomics. "do I out things of Look! can order." :-) #cppcon http://t.co/IHQVKYy6SO
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ october, November, December... Well I mentioned a weekend because I have work as well :p come on flights are cheap nowaday
21:26
@Andrey pulls trigger
repeats the Springfield
@BartekBanachewicz Probably because they get shot down very easily
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ lel
No but seriously, I also have a problem with airplanes
21:27
Hmpfh :/
@набиячлевэлиь thank you
Well, I just don't feel like taking an airplane in 2015/2016 that's it.
That sucks.
@Andrey refrains != refrain...
I used to travel every year in airplanes, now I feel like I'm not safe anymore.
I know it's irrational.
21:27
@Andrey no problem.
A train would we way longer
And more tiring
Like 48 hours or something
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21:28
@sehe Gneiss
cleanup on isle 6
puts Springfield back in rucksack
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ well dunno. As you wish. I just have a free spot.
@BartekBanachewicz Hey, maybe we can meet midway. Say... Milan?
@sehe Area secure!
21:29
Maybe kbok or someone else will want to come
@BartekBanachewicz Thanks for the offer :)
@набиячлевэлиь ooh. I hear awesome sound effects
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ work work work. I have a few debts to pay as well so the budget is frozen
21:29
Guess this means changes to private stuff still requires recompilation
Netherlands was an expensive trip to say the least
I can bring free beer, so alcohol budget is unfrozen
@Nooble thanks!
> When I identified myself as a journalist and sent messages to people offering to write reviews, they said, ‘We only do real reviews. We really try the products. People send them to us.’ But when I approached them undercover with money in hand, it was a different matter.
Well, it sucks, but it's still alcohol
21:30
I can afford Poland :p
@BartekBanachewicz whatever you do - stay away from CH
Mmm maybe I should've called a cab
CHujowe trójmiasto
21:31
Dzieki
Many possibilities here
@BartekBanachewicz You went there? I was supposed to travel up north with Interrail this summer.
CHrzaniony gdańsk
What I think of buying, totalling ~500 eur
so back to my main issue what is the best way to go about changing the value?
21:31
Then everybody folded, but the thought was there.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yeah.last weekend
Sep 9 at 8:43, by sehe
Switzerland was very nice this summer :) (very hot)
@набиячлевэлиь not really
@Mr.kbok topkek name
Nevermind,it's there.
21:32
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ of course
@ThePhD MSI B85-G
ISO 3166-1 is part of the ISO 3166 standard published by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), and defines codes for the names of countries, dependent territories, and special areas of geographical interest. The official name of the standard is Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions – Part 1: Country codes. It defines three sets of country codes: ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 – two-letter country codes which are the most widely used of the three, and used most prominently for the Internet's country code top-level domains (with a few exceptions). ISO 3166...
@sehe I'm sooo motorbiking across the EU next summer
OH MY.
sehe is owner
@Mr.kbok don't buy cheap cases
21:33
@BartekBanachewicz why?
@Mr.kbok Make sure to get some Arctic Silver. Should cost like 5 euros, makes sure you machine runs cool (CPU Heatsink goop)
@Mr.kbok Replace "Any fucking box" with "Cardboard box"
@BartekBanachewicz You saw the "any fucking box" entry did you :3
@ThePhD check this out:
>>> [i-1 for i in xrange(11, 0, -1) if i or not i]
[10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]
@ThePhD Thanks, I'll get some.
21:34
@Mr.kbok dust, noise, durability of internals when moving
Course I did
@BartekBanachewicz hm. what do you think is a reasonable price?
21:35
@Mr.kbok Do you need wireless connectivity? I would assume not.
@ThePhD Nah, I have wired ethernet (fiber needs it)
gigabit fiber :p
>>> list(xrange(10, -1, -1))
[10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]
Woah gigabit?
envy intensifies
more concisely
21:36
Kinky.
Symmetrical?
@AaronHall I use python 3, so just range is fine
My connection is rated at 2.5Gb/1.5Gb
@BartekBanachewicz Nope.
But my ISP doesnt sell that to private customers :(
21:37
@BartekBanachewicz Only to public ones?
To companies and stuff
@BartekBanachewicz 200M upload.
I asked for a quote and it was like 3000pln / mo +
user1804599
21:38
@Enes git gud
Inb4 20 rep. Round as fuck.
@Mr.kbok nice
user1804599
VB.NET is nice.
@elyse be nice to newbs
@Enes good job
@набиячлевэлиь thanks
nothing shocking with the list?
Why c++ room tho
whats the best way to go about changing registry values in c++ should I have it get and read the file then change it and save it or just go through the cmd?
@CS_STEM there are winapi functions for that
21:39
Demanding respect here will end badly for you and your entire family.
@CS_STEM winapi
@ElimGarak Damn right. checks on Springfield in rucksack
windows api that sounds like a default system language ... how
21:40
@CS_STEM its not a language. It's a C api.
So down deep you love each other?
user1804599
@Enes I know someone else who collected rep today /cc @Mysticial
C as in c++ or as in c#
8
@AaronHall We love each other on the surface, too.
@CS_STEM Actually, have a star.
21:41
Friendship is magic?
ah well theres another language I have to learn.
Okay, I'll buy it by next month if salary follows my expectation :P
@Mr.kbok Why the MLG mobo and an i5?
@AaronHall Yes /cc @EtiennedeMartel
Literally.
21:42
@AaronHall Friendship is M1 Garand
@CS_STEM you can easily call c functions from C++ though
@набиячлевэлиь MLG mobo?
Like, in the MLP universe, using Friendship = Magic;
Just include windows.h
Anyway I'm off for tonight
Will you all be my friends?
21:42
@Bartek explain
@AaronHall Depends.
@Mr.kbok Also, do the sockets match?
user1804599
My Little Pony: Friendship Requires ADL
If I don't log in tomorrow send a search party
@CS_STEM ping me tomorrow
21:43
I fucking knew it
I'm too drunk and tired today
@набиячлевэлиь yes but what's "MLG mobo"
@Mr.kbok mobo = motherboard, and it looks pretty mlg
21:44
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Q: How to increase object name in a loop?

EnesI have 1600 textboxes.I want something like this : Textbox1.Text="1" Textbox2.Text="2" Textbox3.Text="3" Textbox4.Text="4" ... I know that doesn't work but I need a loop like this: For i as integer = 0 to 1600 (textbox+i).text=i Next I couldn't find anything about this.I don't know is...

@набиячлевэлиь what's mlg FFS
> I have 1600 textboxes.
@Mr.kbok gugel urbandict it
@ElimGarak lmao
user1804599
Hmm, if I don't use RSP and RBP for what they're meant for, I wonder how to call cdecl functions.
user1804599
21:45
Perhaps I can save them somewhere.
@набиячлевэлиь It's just a skin. I figured 100 for a MB was decent, and it has the specs I need (ram cap, etc)
@Enes Of course
Because cdecl is totally relevant to you
@Mr.kbok Do the sockets match?
@набиячлевэлиь Not going to take any risk with the MB to save 30 bucks, if you take my meaning
@набиячлевэлиь YES THAY DO
21:47
@набиячлевэлиь It's the second time you make me say something a second time.
user1804599
@набиячлевэлиь I know how cdecl works.
user1804599
But it depends on RBP and RSP.
@набиячлевэлиь I could save 100 on the CPU by downgrading it, but not much with the MB, and I don't want to change it afterwards
user1804599
21:48
So I have to set that up correctly before calling into C.
@Mr.kbok Don't downgrade the CPU, yuck
@набиячлевэлиь I'm not sure I really need an i5
but whatever 100 bucks really
@Enes please. nobody is answering you. You're just creating noise (and making a fool of yourself)by wishing everything to be in answer to you. Start here:
@набиячлевэлиь fixed thanks
21:50
Ok, so MS created an interface format for compiled C++ modules - and then expects all implementations to use the same one.
@Enes "whatever"? Does that mean you don't give a shit about us?
Nothing is possible
Gotta sleep now bye bye my little friends
@Mr.kbok requiescat in pace
how to import the C library?
21:50
@Griwes topkek
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@Enes Start reading. Or ask on Stack Overflow
pointers as "typed" 32-bit things
I don't even.
It's a strange night
21:51
I might need to reread that slide later.
On a starry night, a trell appeared
All conversation continued, him unnoticed
And a lowly knight, of flexen hair, trod hither, meek and mild, and righted all wrongs
Yet, while the trell trelled, the polar bear appeared
ITT C++ needs a standardized binary format for modules
And sliced it down into pieces
21:53
typical MS approach ;_;
> Just dump the whole AST in it
They're probably pushing their existing tech
35 mins ago, by sehe
How would they manage if they don't even get an AST going in their compiler
> java has agreed on one, why can't you
21:53
> Just dump the entire process memory
Confirmed private member change requires recompilation
@sehe I know that, let me make a joek
@набиячлевэлиь Something like that. In a OLE compound document!
No idea how templates are handled based on what he's saying
@AndyProwl well. Big fucking meh! They just invented PCH + .o/.ar/.lib in an archive!
21:54
Apparently you don't provide headers to clients
@AndyProwl Dump the AST, oh wait...
@AndyProwl OMG are you at CppCon? Lucky bastard ;)
@Guriwesu It is a different implementation with a very different focus (on supporting existing code directly), but both are experimental
@набиячлевэлиь that's the "template export debacle"
2
@Guriwesu Clearly, as this stuff gets standardized, it will converge, but I don't think we actually know what the standard will be yet
21:55
I think they do have an AST now though
@sehe Nice
Good keming, too
@AndyProwl last time I checked, they don't (explains 2-phase lookup still broken and typename/template qualification non-conforming)
I think 2 phase fuckup is fixed in VC14 no?
No.
21:56
Ah
@AndyProwl no; they just don't care. Template export was deprecated, now they just have to live with botched constexpr (and push generalized constexpr off the agenda) and nobody notices.
template <typename T>
void top () {
     KEK
}
@AndyProwl In May Gabriel said that some fuckup in the preprocessor is more important to fix than that.
According to MS.
21:56
Ok
I need to ask about templates though
Can't understand how this works
@AndyProwl gogogo
> We'll just dump the entire lack of AST, Base64ed and rared
@набиячлевэлиь and zip'd and targz'd
in random order
@Griwes Not proprietary enough
RAR is not microsoft (despite "win"rar)
ugh stupid pc
won't stay asleep at 6% of battery

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