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4:00 PM
@JamieTownsend my business cards says 'IT Consultant'. Thats just a fancy term for 'solving problems with code-person'
Mister know-it-all otoh is a proper 'I will bullshit you so you can give me money' consultant
 
Most consultants I know, can talk the talk but are actually shit hence consulting and not actually doing lol
 
<- also .Net IT Consultant :D
 
make it Executive IT Consultant
 
I pwn joo noobs
 
@DavidDV the only thing you own is "MOOOBS"
 
4:01 PM
what the hell is a .net it consultant?
you are devops?
 
no chad, they talk about developing lol
 
@Chad I think he means he's a brogrammer
 
it and dev are different though. :(
 
I'm dev
otherwise why would i be here
 
so you are a dev consultant. :)
not an IT consultant. :)
 
4:02 PM
@ChadRuppert yeah in NL they mix the term constantly
 
thats crazy
 
@ChadRuppert it is yes
I wanted my business card to read 'awesome person' but my boss declined
 
Mine says code gorilla
 
"At least put Action Hank in parentheses under my name!"
@ChadRuppert I like that too
 
I stopped being a code monkey a few years ago.
 
4:04 PM
I don't have a business card
 
you are cardless consultant? that makes baby jeebus cry
 
:D
 
@userXemY I just used your project as it is with my own sql server and it works fine
 
i didn't think they made such a thing
 
WOW
 
4:16 PM
@ChadRuppert Quick low-down?
 
flexible displays. like fully flexible.
 
If it's the XBox thing, I saw their patent application
Oh, ok, yeah I heard about that too on the news
 
there was some mars movie with a similar concept.
its the future now!
 
Guys, I cannot stress this enough. The tutorial on knockoutjs.com is fantastic.
 
youm(ama) displays by samsung
 
4:17 PM
Kind of cool, but if my phone gets too fiddly for me to handle I will actually start killing people
This is why I like my phones big, I don't want something I can't hold on to
 
i hate that tutorial. its too simple @Billdr
 
I hate it when learning things is easy.
2
 
@Billdr Now cannot tell if either of those two messages are sarcastic.
 
lol not that. its more like not complex enough.
 
Knockoutjs for ppl who have never heard of backbone.js
 
4:18 PM
@Sean Honestly, that tutorial is great.
 
:p
troll
 
@DavidDV uh, no. its much lighter.
oh. haha then
 
I learned knockout because my lead told me to learn knockout.
 
backbone is lighter abstraction
 
knockout is totally awesome. i love it. i just think the tutorial should have an extension for complex scenarious.
 
4:19 PM
knockout is the only known JS framework in .net land
 
It's popular with .Net devs then
 
backbone is NOT lighter. it covers way more than just mvvm. it covers comms, and a lot more
 
@ChadRuppert I dunno about it not being complex enough. I'm doing some cool stuff with what it shows. The pub/sub stuff seems to be mostly useful if you want to break the design model it wants you to use.
 
most ppl never even heard of backbone
 
and this is a problem because...? ;P
 
4:20 PM
you should look at stuff outside of MS sometimes
 
because...?
 
A lot of well known sites use backbone
 
and..?
 
@sean you are asking whom?
 
@ChadRuppert david
 
4:20 PM
so why not take a look at it then to check out if it wouldn't be better for your problem
 
There is no reason to use backbone most of the time >_>
 
@ChadRuppert to be fair I'm not even asking, I'm just not having people impose things on me =P
 
I have looked at backbone. and its WAY fatter than knockout.
 
@DavidDV because all my problems don't deal with anything you think they do =P
 
its a full clientside framework. not just mvvm
 
4:21 PM
I'm talking in general
I don't care about your personal problems
 
well, I'm not ^_^
I don't have personal problems
 
Mostly you can get away with jQuery + specific packages you need.
 
@ChadRuppert Backbone is a lighter abstraction
 
Things like underscore and backbone are generally not useful if you have a specific problem
 
Amplifyjs's tutorial leaves much to be desired.
For starters, it doesn't exist.
 
4:22 PM
If you are doing a complex single page app then Backbone really helps
 
Knockout does everything for SPA.
Why'd you go for Backbone then :P
 
holy crap, its NOT a lighter abstraction. have you built in both @David?
 
@DavidDV What I meant was, you're assuming I'm using something else. Or that I care, or that I want to learn anything else. Basically, what you are doing is imposing your opinion on me and discarding mine.
 
If I'm doing a RESTful api, the get/post/put/delete stuff should be flagged in the header of the request, right?
 
not built in both
looked up articles and examples of both
 
4:24 PM
right, so you have no actual experience
 
<Style x:Key="TextBlockStyle1" TargetType="{x:Type TextBlock}">
    <Setter Property="Visibility" Value="Hidden"/>
</Style>
 
@Sean really I'm not assuming anything about you
 
LabelStyle = Resources["TextBlockStyle1"] as Style,
why do my labels still show up?
 
holy hell. its not a lighter abstraction if it provides more stuff than what the other does. wtf
 
providing more stuff is heavier abstraction
backbone does less
so lighter
 
4:24 PM
its not even necessarily abstraction.
 
@DavidDV You are trying to push something on me that I clearly don't want =P
 
removes the pin from the hand grenade and walks out of the room.
 
backbone does MORE dude.
holy crap
 
no one knows?
 
@DavidDV .. That is wrong in so many ways.
 
4:25 PM
@Sean look I really don't care about you at all
 
it has routing, it has communications it has TONS of stuff. knockout does NOT have those things.
 
lol
 
@Billdr HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO ME?!?! I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL!!!
 
@klut I missed what you're trying to do.
 
sorry :'(
 
4:25 PM
Just trying to hide my Label
 
@ChadRuppert I'm talking about the data binding and such not the routing + sync
 
Webforms?
 
@Billdr not using opacity or transparency brushes
 
GUYS
 
WPF
 
4:26 PM
I'm off
And girls ofcourse
 
>.>
 
backbone includes all of those things. so it is not lighter. period.
 
(@Ellie call me)
 
@DavidDV Do you actually know what you're talking about with either of these or just spouting cos someone you like said it was better? =P
 
its a TextBlock. and its part of RadChart, when when I apply the style it doesn't hide the Label
 
4:26 PM
@ActionHank Pfft
 
@ActionHank lol
 
cya later @ActionHank
 
i give up
 
ciao hank
 
@klut I know nothing about wpf, but the way you're applying that style looks very VBish to me.
 
4:27 PM
yo @ShotgunNinja
 
@Billdr Hey, no using foul language. And yes, VB is a foul language.
 
yeah, i'm not sure the best way, but that works for my other styles
 
I wouldn't dream of argueing otherwise, @ShotgunNinja
 
/starbait
 
/biggerfishsuddenlyeatingthestarbait
 
4:28 PM
What kind of fish would eat starbait? A... starfish, perhaps?
 
lol
 
@Billdr holy moly, you are right. the tuts on knockout got way more complex. sweet
 
Did Kendall run off to Canada again? Now we have no WPF advocate to help.
 
God, I love JS when there are tutorials.
 
@ChadRuppert Quick, scroll up and star it!
 
4:29 PM
Meeting time. biab.
 
I hate JS when there's no reference whatsoever.
 
also, staring someone saying I'm right.
 
so fucking tired right now
 
Idk why that didn't work, but they have a ShowLabels prop, and I'm assuming it overrides the Visibility or something
 
coming down off mountain dew and coffee sucks donkey balls
 
4:30 PM
I could exploit that to get to the top of the star leaderboard, but I'm not that cruel of a person.
 
I've had about 30 coffees. I feel so crap
 
especially when you don't usually drink eneergy drinks
 
I'm on my first of the day.
 
I fucking hate sharepoint.... Deleted a site cos it was somehow broken. Re-created it except I forgot to name it, so I deleted that one. When i re-created it agani with the right name it goes through the process, then gives me a HTTP 500 as if it's not done it, but it's there in the list. Now I have no idea if it's worked properly or not. GODDAMNIT.
 
Function ShotgunNinja(...)
Inputs:
- caffDrink, a CaffeineDrink
Return:
- A Collection of Program objects
Throws:
- DecafException - If caffDrink doesn't contain caffeine
 
4:32 PM
i will never get tired of saying that sharepoint is the devil.
 
it really is
especially when nobody in the company actually knows what the fuck they're doing with it, including me
 
Or, Collection<Software> ShotgunNinja(CaffeineDrink caffDrink) throws DecafException;
 
isnt that sharepoint in general
 
it was installed wrong, it's been patched and so many virtual plasters (band-aids) put on it to try and make it right that I have no faith in it ever doing anything right ever again
@ShotgunNinja EWWWWWWW JAVA
@ShotgunNinja (OMG I'm joking please don't kill me)
 
did you guys hear about the latest java 10 vuln? remote exploit. yummy.
 
4:34 PM
@Sean Crap, did I use the wrong syntax for specifying that an exception is to be thrown?
I meant for that to be C#, but it's been a while since I actually used it.
 
@ShotgunNinja I didn't even know you can do that in .Net... I just assume every time I see that syntax that it's Java xD
Cos it pissed me off to no end that you have to specify which exceptions your method could throw
 
its just not customary in .net to say which exceptions are thrown, since the language doesn't require that.
or support it
 
Yeah sure, makes it nicer on people knowing what they can expect your method to throw, but it's a right PITA
 
thats one of the verbosity things i bitch about with java
 
@ShotgunNinja It's ok, I forgive you
 
4:39 PM
@Sean You don't really have to specify, since you can suppress explicit exception notifications. The compiler yells at you when you explicitly throw an exception within a method that isn't marked with throws for that type, but the point is to have a warning generated at code which calls such a method without having a try-catch or a subsequent throws statement.
 
my sister is texting me complaining that she's having to walk too far to find a desert temple in minecraft cos we turned large biomes on. I bet she's not even walking. She'll be cheating and flying.... #first/third(whicheverthefuckitis)worldproblems
 
In that way, it's easier to see at a glance which types of exceptions you have to handle from any given method.
 
minecraft added desert temples?
i havent looked at MC in a year
 
The problem is, it adds more verbosity to something that could be left explicit, or could be found out at compile-time without the user needing to type anything.
Yeah, they also added forest temples, and bats in caves.
 
@ChadRuppert yeah they're not massive thing but under the floor in the middle there's a shaft and 4 chests at the bottom, but don't jump down cos there's a trap and it will kill you
 
4:41 PM
@ShotgunNinja i get the idea of why java did it. its just stupid in practice. great on paper though.
 
@ChadRuppert Understood.
 
@sean neat. maybe ill have to look at it
 
@ShotgunNinja Yeah it's nice to know what a method can throw but I was getting errors using IO and my method not having a throws every goddamn IO-related exception and other such bullshit
@ChadRuppert Survival is quite fun now
OMG I think she's not cheating....
"FOUND ONE! Gonna take it down for the sandstone!"
 
@Sean Oh yeah. The use of emeralds as currency, plus the ability to buy/sell with villagers and stuff is rather nice too.
 
we had tons of fun with MC until we found out that carts wouldn't travel autonomously past one or 2 chunks.
oh damn. lots of improvements
 
4:43 PM
@ChadRuppert Pretty sure they fixed that.
 
@ShotgunNinja Damn straight it is, although finding a villager with anything useful I don't already have is difficult
 
You can keep a cart going with properly-spaced redstone boosters, btw.
 
I think one booster will do 8 blocks?
 
hrm. this is vanilla to, not all modded? no, we had the boosters all set up, and everything. mc just stopped caring about the world in more than a 2 chunk radius or something.
 
@ChadRuppert Yeah vanilla =]
 
4:44 PM
@ChadRuppert Hmm, were you playing a singleplayer map, or a dedicated server?
 
I do have a server but it's on a shit VM and nobody bloody uses it despite it being there >_<
 
ded server
 
Hmm. I've done stuff of that nature before, and I haven't had much of a problem with it...
 
like i said, it was a year+ ago
 
I've never tried to send minecarts very far without actually being in them
Would be nice to have a two-track system that sent one back when one set off
But that's about all I can think of, maybe sending resources back to base in one but I usually run out of pickaxes etc. before space becomes a problem (I ditch excess stone and dirt)
 
4:46 PM
Then yeah, they definitely fixed it. I'm pretty sure they now treat empty minecarts as if they were local players, and load the chunk they're in and the surrounding chunks, without pushing those chunks to the network if no actual network players are present.
 
hi guys
 
tahts what we wanted, to move resources long distances. after that we went with netherworld portals, since it was a x8 distance multiplier
 
@Sean Also, they added a Nether Chest, which serves as an instantaneous per-player dropbox.
 
oh hotness
 
I am getting an error rendering control
<tr>
<td style="width: 100%; text-align: left; border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-left-color: black; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-bottom-color: black; border-top-color: black; border-right-width: 0px; border-right-color: black; padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" valign="top">
<uc2:Header ID="Header1" runat="server" OnLoad="Header1_Load" EnableTheming="true" EnableViewState="true" Visible="true" />
</td>
</tr>
 
4:48 PM
Ender chest, rather*
 
Oh yeah I saw that
 
Error rendering control-Header1
An unhandled exception occurred HtmlImageID property not specified
 
How much space do they have?
 
@Sean I think they're just a single-chest worth of space.
 
Awwww =\
Cos they're shared across all of them, so it would be a bit naff except for putting there as a placeholder to move when you got home
Still better than nothing
Although thinking about it I can instantly see why they only made it single
brb
 
4:51 PM
seems handy to carry one to a far exploration point where you have loads of diamonds or whatever.
@peter what are you putting in that control? you have to specify the id of the control you are inserting
 
@PeterJennings Is one of the properties on the user control called HtmlImageID and it's tagged as a required property? That's what the error sounds like
 
%@ Register Src="controls/Header.ascx" TagName="Header" TagPrefix="uc2" %>
 
<facepalm>
 
Ok, you don't know, that's fine..
 
Ugh, I wish I could go into the Java room sometimes and have someone to ask about Struts...
 
4:58 PM
noone in java uses struts?
 
There's no one in the Java room.
 
even when someone is in the java room, is anyone truly there?
 
lol, they're having a discussion about inheritance.
as in, "lol how do I inheritance".
 
@PeterJennings Try putting this above the control <img id="imgIDontEvenKnowWhyImHere" alt="Nobody knows...." src="isitabird.jpg" /> and add this attribute to your Header1 control: HtmlImageID="imgIDontEvenKnowWhyImHere"
 
nice
 

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