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12:02 PM
david i hear you're looking to hire a new programmer with the first name steve, is this true?
 
Tom
lol :P
 
As a poor consultant I can't hire programmers
:(
 
dang
how do consultants find work?
is it just by word of mouth or is there a... "consultant" website
 
I'm not a freelance consultant :(
so my company finds the work
 
oh
how hard is the work they give you? i know these are ambiguous questionis
 
12:13 PM
I have a done a lot of these-other-people-made-something-but-it-sucks-plz-make-it-work stuff
anyway hard work as in time-constraints or problem to solve?
 
problems to solve, I feel comfortable with c#/asp.net but I've still only been working with it for a few months
 
Look on the bright side @DavidDV at least you don't work on a "Software Factory" and have to create big systems out of nowhere with the role of junior developer. :(
Alone.
 
I don't have much problems with problems to solve
 
@Andredseixas I think i'd like that , I'm tired of working on such small pieces of the pie my efforts seem... unappreciated
 
I'm working here btw -> en.janssenpharmaceutica.be
doing projects for R&D
 
12:17 PM
@Steve it is cool to do big stuff, when you have a team to work with.
 
anyway most problems are just made up of smaller simpler problems :p
 
My team is me and SO chat.
 
so you can only blame yourself :p
 
ahh
no, you can blame whoever is in charge of you, they should know better
 
No one is in charge of me. I'm a junior developer just because they want to pay less.
The system that I'm developing is in my hands to analyse and develop.
 
12:19 PM
thats cool
you are like the architect then ;)
 
So you dont have a boss?
 
My boss is freaking crazy. He don't like that I recreate stuff. He likes to copy from open source library and rename everything to look that I did.
I have a boss that tells me to hurry up. Just that.
 
lmao
 
He just creates an idea and order me to do it.
 
i bet you've learned a lot since you started the project though, huh
 
12:20 PM
I deny myself of copying others stuff.
 
i just realized i really miss the good old elementary-kindergarten days where I would get a bright green, yellow, or blue star for good work :P
 
I learn a lot not because of the project, but because of SO chat.
Most stuff I know now is because I read every question here.
 
@Andredseixas no need to re-invent the wheel. If others have classes and code that will do the same thing, don't redo it
 
@Steve I used a Resource Manager made by someone I don't remember on code project. I told my boss I was doing it, he demanded that I rename everything to look like the company did.
 
thats the whole point of classes, so you can use somebody elses crap without knowing how it works, you only need to figure out which methods you need to call (and the interface of it. By interface I do not mean the keyword)
 
12:23 PM
I hate that.
I care much about performance, so I just use others projects when I'm either sure it is the best or I don't know how to make it better.
 
lol yeah
 
And please, do not link jobs.stackoverflow because there is no job offer in Brazil :(
I looked.
 
i'm not going to
 
@Steve
 
brazil is exploding economically, its what... like the third largest economy now? I'm sure things will open up
 
12:26 PM
fifth I guess..
 
isnt kendall's formula for volume of pizza incorrect? it should be 2*Pi*z*z*a
 
Wtf Someone posted a career available in Brazil.
 
2 pi r^2 * height, so yeah i'm pretty sure you're right
 
--' 5 year experience.
 
its pi r^2, no 2
 
12:29 PM
2PiR is the circumference
R*a should give you the volume of a slice
multiple that slice by the circumference and you get the volume
 
no
thats if it was a square or rectangle (b*w*h), but its a triangle, you'd have to use trig
 
the pizza is a circle :S
 
not a slice
its a triangle with a circular edge
 
R*a gies you the volume if you take a very very thin slice
 
lol no
 
12:31 PM
it is the volume of a very thin slice
 
radius gives you th length, a gives the height, what if the slice is very wide, or very thin (width wise)
 
pi r^2 a is the whole pizza, right?
 
yeah
 
radius * height will not give you the volume of the slice of pizza
 
So, a slice 1/6 of the pizza is of course (pi r^2 a) / 6
 
12:34 PM
yeah
 
damn you kendall, that is a lot easier than using trig
 
A slice of n radians is (n r^2 a) / 2
 
(pi r^2 a)/n?
 
That works if n is the number of slices.
 
ooo
 
12:35 PM
what if they're not cut perfectly, and some are larger than the others
(pizza bakers aren't known for their precision lol)
 
But if you have an arbitrary slice of n radians, (n r^2 a) / 2
 
I think then what I meant by the "radius" is (((Pi r^2)/n)*a)*2*Pi*r
n is like 1000000000000 slices
so basically you get the volume of a very thin slice
and then multiply it by circumference
 
no...
"radius" is r
 
yeah
thats true
 
length of arc side of pizza is n*r
 
12:38 PM
but that formula i last gave would work
 
area of slice is (n r^2) / 2
 
if n is the number of slices and you let n=some very big number
 
i don't remember shit from trig
 
ok, so tryin your formula... say radius is 1 and n is 1
 
then ((Pi r^2)/n)*a is area of small slice
n has to be extremely large
 
12:40 PM
Um, why?
 
by "slice" I mean cutting up the pizza vertically
its from integration
multi dimensional integration
 
._. That wouldn't be good to happen, cut the pizza vertically.
 
hey guys
 
We just need to know, for a slice of pizza radius r, thickness h, and angle of slice a, what is the volume of the slice.
(I know, I changed some variables around.)
 
a is in rads or degrees
 
12:42 PM
the question is different, i wasnt finding the volume of slice but volume of the pizza itself
 
@HansZ A little bird told me that you want to hire me. :(
 
That's easy. Volume of a cylinder: pi r^2 h
 
r r h a / 2 for rads
 
i think he's talking about integration because the height isn't constant
 
that might be problematic
i dont think pizza is cylendrical
 
12:44 PM
@Andredseixas wait what? why am I hiring people?
 
If this pizza isn't cylindrical, all math goes out the window.
 
@HansZ Not people, just me. And I'm not that fat to be considered people instead of person. :(
 
I'm confused
 
that is generally a cylinder
but we know that a pizza's height isnt more than its crossection
 
No need to be confused. Just hire me and tell where you work and when I should start. :(
Pretty tired of here.
 
12:45 PM
if you take the height to 1/2 an inch, then it is a cylinder
 
and that picture wil look like a pizza
 
looks pretty cylindrical to me
 
@Nadal Cylinder need not be higher than it's wide. ಠ_ಠ
 
@Nadal how old are you?
 
12:48 PM
well he knows calculus, so he isn't too young lol
 
lol 20
the formula i gave first claculates the volume of that slice
then it multiplies it by circumference to get volume of entire pizza
 
@Steve does he know calculus or does he know the word "integrate"?
 
You can't have a volume of a 2d area. ಠ_ಠ
 
what :S
 
What's the volume of a square?
 
12:49 PM
that is a thin slice of a very very thin width
 
Kendall Frey, ladies and gentlemen.
 
@HansZ trutrue
 
@Nadal How thin?
 
i know square has no volume because its width is 0
infinitesimal
 
dtheta
or in the square case dz
 
12:50 PM
or rather square's thickness is 0
 
So, it's not a volume, it's an area.
 
but this isnt 2d, its 3d
 
xydz
 
this is like saying
 
Haha my boss just asked me if I was hungry because of all the pizza pictures. I laughed a lot now.
 
12:50 PM
@Nadal i know what you're saying
 
you have a square but it has a very very infinitesimal thickness so now it does have volume
 
tell him you're doing important research on programming topics explained through analogies by pizza
 
Yeah I had to show the talk.
He called "us" virgins, I called him an idiot. You had to see his face.
 
Guys, get a room.. specifically a math room :P
 
nadal is right, you can also find the volume that way, i'm not sure about this formula that he got... but the idea is legit
 
12:51 PM
it does have volume
 
See, what you're doing is equivalent to splitting a rectangle into infinitesimally wide strips, and finding the area (really the length) and multiplying by the width for the total area.
 
specifically r * h * dtheta
but it's a differential volume
not an actual volume
 
You are actually just multiplying the length by the width.
So, your formula for volume of a pizza: (((Pi r^2)/n)*a)*2*Pi*r
 
@KendallFrey have you taken calculus? just curious
 
Never as an official course.
 
12:53 PM
thats what the formula is doing
 
anyone know how to setup an aggregate to update a repository in MOQ?
 
that slice is infinitesimal and you are summing up that slice all over
 
what he's talking about is a common technique to find the volume of a cylinder, but i dont think his formula matches up with the technique -- but it has been a while
 
OK, if all variables are 1, we get the result 19.7 for then volume of the pizza.
Now trying the cylinder volume formula.
you get 3.1
 
12:55 PM
((2 Pi R )/n) where n is a very very large number gives you a thin 2d space with 0 thickness so you multiply by a, the depth of the pizza to give it the thickness of a
 
Your formula is wrong.
 
the formula I have will work for this pizza and if you integrate the formula you willl get the cylinder formula
the reason I have it in that form is because it will also calculate the volume properly for non uniform pizzas
 
((2 Pi R )/n) where n = infinity gives you zero. all further multiplication gives you zero. What have you been smoking?
@Nadal Does not believe you.
 
i did not say infinity
 
12:57 PM
Your formula gave very wrong results.
 
i jus said a very large number
steve please link an integration url
 
@Nadal your understanding of calculus is shaky at best
 
Ok, write your formula to use 2 variables: r and h.
@Nadal You thought infinity.
 
i just linked a url to find the area and volume of an object using integration, it will work no matter the shape
 
volume of a pizza is pi r^2 h. none of this infintesimal BS.
 
12:59 PM
@Kendall integration is the infinite sum of infinitesimal values
which gives you a final value
that is either 0, finite, or infinite
 
@KendallFrey i agree with the (Pi R^2)*h as the volume of pizza as well
 

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