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6:00 PM
that reminds me of some guy
 
@Nadal that's terrible, why would you force human beings to fight each other to the death for your own personal enjoyment?
 
when he ate M&Ms he would take two at a time
 
I think I might have to flag you for that.
 
like a few days ago we only had 900 starred messages, and now we have over 1100 lol
 
and crunch them together
 
6:00 PM
i didnt say fight @hans giggdyy giggdyyy gigdy
 
he would eat the one that was crushed
 
yeah, people in this room are too star happy
 
This guy? first google result for some guy:
 
and too off topic
 
@KendallFrey lmao.
 
6:01 PM
ewwww
get that off my screen
 
this person doesn't look high at all
 
.
 
Delete node.
 
STOP USING FLAGS INCORRECTLY
5
 
spam to get it ofF!!!
 
6:01 PM
@zneak Is everything pineapple?
 
the guy in the background is worse actually
 
aww
it wouldn't let me vote on a flag on my own message
 
wait
is that a girl or a guy
 
we may be off topic, but if you want to start a c# convo on topic i'll be happy to participate
 
@Nadal yes
 
6:02 PM
Who flagged that, seriously?
 
that is a girl || that is a guy
 
some C# humping mate prolly
 
that is a girl ^ that is a guy
2
 
LMAO
 
6:03 PM
that is a girl && that is a guy == /* We all hate him. You know who he is. */
 
look at the starred msg now
justin bieber o.o?
 
(I'm sorry if there's any transgender I could have offended with my last message)
 
@zneak well you'd only be offending the one
 
if you had 10000 super hot girls under your control, what would you use them for?
 
6:04 PM
Who thinks we should enforce stars only on useful comments?
5
 
^^ deserved to be starred
 
@KendallFrey thats one of the reasons I want owner status - to moderate the stars
 
i want to say me, but i don't know if i can resist starring non useful comments
 
@Nadal I would create a better domain name registrar.
 
@KendallFrey populus decernere
 
6:05 PM
There is a regex somewhere - /star/ - and it's starring any matching post.
 
@KyleTrauberman lies, you're power hungggry
 
kush you have to put 10,000 hot girls to better use than that....
 
nah, Kendall, that's just me
 
i would have them strategically spread out across the planet and have them sell lemonade in bikinis
 
@Nadal I can't make them like me. :(
 
6:06 PM
the cost of lemonade would be the cost of starbucks coffee so ill be rich in no time Lol
 
@Nadal Nadal/Skeet 2012
 
Lemonade in bikinis? Cups hold more.
 
@kush I know that feel bro
also, lol
 
@ShotgunNinja hugs
 
6:07 PM
@KendallFrey thats true but the men buying will want it straight from the source giggdyy
 
ewwww
@HansZ Actually, it wasn't intended.
 
100% natural, no perservatives added
loolll
 
@KendallFrey that was a triple entendre
 
Do you think so? Well, I'd better not tell you where the lemonade is made, sweet lemonade. Ya sweet lemonade. Sweet, sweet lemonade.
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it was a Shakespearean effort of wordplay
surely that is worthy of a star.
 
6:08 PM
I didn't know Shakespeare had it so easy.
 
first, not only did you employ the old switch-a-roo
 
Tim McGraw - Back When
 
some guy was paying 80$-120$ on ebay/craiglist for dirty/sweaty socks worn by women
 
but you also made the cups/cups joke
 
look at my horse, my horse is amazing.... give it a lick, mm tastes just like raisins
 
6:09 PM
classic Kendall
 
lol @Nadal, they do that stuff in Japan apparently.
 
he was even offering toe sucking services
thats yuckyy lol
googles men buying sweaty socks in japan
 
You expect to be taken seriously, when you use words like "yuckyy" on the Internet?
 
OKAY C# QUESTION, when should i use ORM's and when should i use ado, or linq, does it matter?
 
it would be a good business idea to sell women's sweaty socks
 
6:10 PM
Wow... should ORMs ever be used?
 
This chat makes me feel one thing:
 
the buyer doesnt know whether its sweat from an ape or a diva
 
Both.
 
SO I SHould never use ORM's? lol
 
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert in 5 years there would be a shortage of sand." -Milton Friedman
 
6:12 PM
HA
 
What is void? Is it a class, a struct, or an enum?
 
@ShotgunNinja never knew japan had such strange fetishes....either that or they are rich.....ill buy me 2-3 apes and get them running on a tredmill then sell the undies and socks saying "hot brazillian women sweat, homemade and 100% natural"
 
every ORM I've ever seen is just a cop-out for developing an actual database system.
 
@ShotgunNinja sometimes you don't need an actual database system
 
Agreed, but then why would you need an ORM?
 
6:14 PM
@ShotgunNinja 1->many relational mapping for small stuff
stuff you would need obscure data structures for
 
Well, can't you just use references or data structures for that?
crap*
 
olympic women's gymnastics
 
Idk, it seems like the design of most pre-made ORM tools just serves to overcomplicate the design of the software itself. More pain than they're worth.
 
I give up on this.
 
I don't know, I just use lists of datarows and abuse lambda operations
 
6:16 PM
I have no idea how to fix it.
 
lol :( sorry andred
 
I'm with you there, Hans
 
All hail the new lord Trauberman!
 
I think I'll just leave it this way.
 
6:16 PM
crap
 
 
what's this now, @Nad
 
@KyleTrauberman Now you'll help keep this room a little more on topic, I hope.
 
crap, no autocomplete in this form
 
response to kyle trauberman added to owner :P
 
6:17 PM
Yes there is.
 
Thanks Kendall
 
@KendallFrey Don't complain about off-topic !! You're guilty too. :(
 
 
well, it's not triggered by the enter key, lol
 
thats a sport in japan apparently
 
6:18 PM
what is it?
 
screwing some kind of big fury dog? thats a sport?
 
@Andredseixas we're all guilty
 
bearblasting?
 
^ found that out while searcing for that fetish you mentioned shotgun
 
POWERTHIRST
 
6:18 PM
@Andredseixas Yes, but let's try to forget all the dead baby jokes and sweaty socks and try to be more on topic.
 
but its become a problem. the signal/noise ratio in here is WAY too low
 
I mentioned nothing of the sort.
 
thats called yivsekua --- dog riding
their version of bull riding
 
facepalm
 
nothing to do here .jpg
@Kyle Can we say that you failed as a moderator?
 
6:20 PM
ugh, thank god for dual monitors... two applications in two languages, which communicate via a custom, simple network protocol.
 
@Nadal please don't post more pictures you find while googling japanese sock fetishes here, I'm at work.
 
that dog seems to be finding hard to keep up
 
Same here, Hans
 
me 3
 
@Nadal, this is your boss. Please don't google japanese sock fetishes at work. Thanks.
 
6:21 PM
failed? I barely started.
 
^^^ star that
 
@HansZ Agreed, and refrained from starring.
 
damnit he changed it!
 
Moderator? I barely knew her.
 
we're in here for 8 hours a day, chatting, idk about you, but after a few weeks you run out of c# stuff to talk about... as long as when people ask c# questions we're here to discuss them... i dont think being off topic is a bad thing, but thats just me
 
6:22 PM
But some topics are just too off topic.
 
@KyleTrauberman nice edit
 
yes, some topics are completely inappropriate for this setting, i agree
 
totally agreed :P
 
we can look at yesterday as a prime example
 
Kendall. I agree. That Japanese dog/bull fighting thing was pretty weird
 
6:22 PM
I can't...
 
...UNSEE...
 
I am glad I wasn't there. Nobody repost it!
 
You've activated my trap card, btw.
 
@kush that is just the begining, you would be shocked at my other findings that I refuse to post since hans is at work :P
 
6:24 PM
aren't you at work as well?
 
@Nadal I am sincerely begging you, please don't
At work and working are not the same thing.
 
yeah but but but I have 3 monitors and remote desktop controling 2 other pcs so i can sneak it down :P
i am jus breaking a bit
2 months of hardcore debugging has got me to the point of puking whenever i seee this application
 
I hear you, dude.
I'm almost there myself.
 
I can't believe I am saying this. Please refrain from posting porn on stack overflow if that's not to much trouble.
 
6:25 PM
lmao!
 
it is so poorly written, the guy that started it picked up from "hello world"
 
Not because people are at work, but because DONT DO THAT WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU THIS ISNT 4CHAN
 
@hansz define "porn"
4chan?
 
The project I'm on is over 30,000 lines of code, between two different languages (C# and Flash), made with auto-generated code from Flash Catalyst, and there is no design, requirements, or plan documentation.
 
@Nadal Should not require definition.
 
6:26 PM
Nadal, even a picture of a model got some dude fired.
 
oh wow
 
alright that's my cue to leave this chat
 
i googled "stud" at work to find a picture to make a point in here, and a bunch of naked dudes came up
 
shotgun that sounds bad
 
What was that incident in Australia where some banker dude was looking at pictures of a bikini model?
 
6:27 PM
i hope they don't find that lol
 
hey guys, on-topic discussion time
 
start a discussion on topic
 
what happens when you cast a nullable value to object?
 
It started in 2010, and was built within the UI prototype, with a C# backend as a last-minute workaround to the fact that the Flash couldn't interface with our hardware.
 
do you get a boxed nullable
or a boxed value?
 
6:28 PM
both
 
i know that a boxed value is inherently nullable
but they're not the same
if I cast a decimal? to an object
 
@Steve if you browse like crazy then there really isnt much anyone can view because the log is ridiculously massive
 
A boxed Nullable<T> I would guess.
 
either I get a boxed decimal
 
also, we're making a UI for an industrial heat-treatment scanner unit, and we're using Flash.
 
6:29 PM
or a boxed Nullable<decimal> as @Kendall just said
 
my asss is burning from all this sitting
 
I'll go with kendall's answer
 
I wish C# had a typedef facility :/
 
no pictures to go wiht that
 
it's hard to tell from the debugger
 
6:29 PM
All a decimal? is is a Nullable<decimal>, which is a basic struct with a HasValue property.
 
because nullable stuff shows "null" when it's, well, null
 
So, my first official action as room owner: feedback on the idea of a room feed?
 
Feed?
 
periodic c# questions automatically pasted here
 
Traub: Sounds okay to me, I guess. It'd give us something to do.
 
6:30 PM
no more than 2 an hour, i think
to drive on-topic signal
 
HES POWER HUNGRY ALREADY! jk, that sounds like a legit idea
 
We have .NET Programming puzzles on Saturdays.
 
oooh, that sounds kind of fun.
 
80% of my productivity comes in the last 2 hours of work
 
6:31 PM
I guess I'll just ask a real question and wait for Jon Skeet because it looks really ambiguous
 
lol, I'm most productive between 9:00am and 10:45am, and between 1:30pm and 3:45pm.
 
Zneak, ask the rubber duck first
 
I just did
by asking everyone around
 
and that's called process analysis and elicitation of historical data.
 
I'm productive when they give me work, otherwise, i read wikipedia and drive off-topic discussions in the c# room on SO
 
6:32 PM
I used c# tag feed
but we can have multiple feeds
got any suggestions? any RSS feed will work
 
Is that feed from SO questions?
 
@KendallFrey yes
 
do asp.net too
 
anything tagged C#
 
linq
 
6:33 PM
Why do we want C# questions appearing here?
 
Because our jobs aren't enough fun as it is?
 
did asp.net and asp.net-mvc
any other suggestions?
 
also, the C# questions that appear on SO are almost always terrible, from what I've seen...
 
6:35 PM
My suggestion is to remove them. I really don't want SO questions appearing in this chat.
 
@KendallFrey they only post once or twice an hour
and I think only when no one is talking
 
Man, do I love C%23.
 
okay guys, I have my answer
((object)(decimal?)null).ToString()
 
what was the question?
 
6:36 PM
we can also do blog posts
 
in the immediate window, this shows ((object)((decimal?)null))' is null
 
and if it doesn't work out, we can remove them
 
the question was, what happens when you cast a Nullable<T> to object
do you get a boxed T or a boxed Nullable<T>?
 
Yeah, it seems to box int? to int
 
the answer is that you get a boxed T
 
6:38 PM
cool.
 
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Thanks, C#, for actually implementing that properly.
OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED
 
LMAO
 
That's what I hate.
REMOVE ALL THE FEEDS!
 
and the last question is an EF question.
classy
 
6:39 PM
waits for DaveDV
 
oh wow
 
he's not in here atm.
 
it was supposed to be one feed
 
In the C++ room, when we want to add a feed, we add it as a drop-down ticker first, wait until the first onslaught of posts, and then put it back to inline.
 
one question
sorry
 
6:40 PM
Kyle Trauberman has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Kyle Trauberman has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Kyle Trauberman has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Kyle Trauberman has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
 
What ... The ... Fudgesicles.
 
Kyle Trauberman has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
 
int? x = 42;
x.GetType().Dump();
//System.Int32
 
@KendallFrey You literally have me lol-ing over here
 
Does not compute!!!
 
6:40 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes good idea - I'll play with this tonight I think after everyone is in bed
so I don't spam everything
 
everyone is in bed
internationally-accessible website
good luck.
 
room has down time
after 10pm ish pacific time
or earlier
 
This room seems to have the same activity pattern as I do. Hmm...
 
6:42 PM
well that Nullable<T>.GetType() thing is awkward
 
@KendallFrey I request permission to be an owner so I can remove @KyleTrauberman as an owner and turn this room back into party central
 
I know why, now.
 
@KendallFrey That's because YOU ARE C# CHAT ROOM
 
Permission Denied.
 
6:43 PM
lmao
 
I just asked a friend the same question about nullables
and he answered straight away
 
directed my M. Night Shamamamalion
 
I should have known, he's built a .net virtual machine for fun.
 
.NET runtime?
 
6:44 PM
nope, a .NET implementation of a JVM
clearly
 
What a waste of bytes.
 
@ShotgunNinja Like the IKVM?
 
a .net implementation of a jvm? Isn't that what the CLR is?
 
It's not a joke.
 
Blasphemy!
 
6:44 PM
idk, lol
 
he's not far into the runtime but he has most of the jit compiler done
 
> IKVM.NET is an implementation of Java for Mono and the Microsoft .NET Framework.
A Java Virtual Machine implemented in .NET
A .NET implementation of the Java class libraries
Tools that enable Java and .NET interoperability
 
hm
 
nice!
 
6:45 PM
is it safe?
 
Obviously not.
 
lol
 
"Java and .NET interoperability" - THE APOCALYPSE
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@KendallFrey J#?
 
I don't know what J# is
 
6:46 PM
That thing is quite serious, and for what it is, works surprisingly well.
 
is that the idea behind it?
 
J#, where the # is pronounced "oking"
 
J# is Microsoft's bastard Java implementation
 
@Steve java with .net interoperability
 
oh wow
 
6:47 PM
@ShotgunNinja javaoking?
 
since .NET grew from Java (look up the history of .NET)
they included it
 
nope. J-oking.
 
Java Choking. w00t!
 
I think to make it easier to port java to .net
 
@KyleTrauberman And then microsoft was like, java is so terrible why are we doing this
the company that supports ie decided to no longer support java
 
6:48 PM
My school (for some reason) prefers Java for its coursework. I'm starting to hate it.
 
Can't be much worse than ActionScript.
 
oh, it's far better than ActionScript.
 
Java is the most popular language if you look at the jobs available for it, so I have no problem with schools teaching java
 
Java is a gateway language.
 
@Steve I have a problem with schools teaching everything in java
 
6:49 PM
@HansZ agreed, you need a mixture of languages
 
@HansZ actually, Sun sued Microsoft because they wanted to customize the JVM outside the Java spec
 
Well, my school also uses AVR assembly and C/C++ for embedded and OpSys.
 
so Microsoft said "screw it" and made their own
 
@KyleTrauberman That belongs in any context you wish.
 
6:50 PM
lol Hans, no.
 
doing a 180 on the highway o.O
 
@KendallFrey that's so true
 
Java is a gateway language in the same way that marijuana is a gateway drug.
3
 
history of microsoft summed up right there.
 
@ShotgunNinja it makes you regret 10 years of your life?
 
6:51 PM
^^ @KyleTrauberman and @Steve: Agreed.
 
@ShotgunNinja Marijuana need to be legalized, and Java banned.
 
@KendallFrey Drug references in chat are not kosher, Kendall.
 
anyone fan of speeding on the highway lol?
 
That too.
 
legalize it!
 
6:52 PM
There are two reasons I don't smoke pot: (1) it's not legal, and (2) it smells like skunk.
 
@Nadal Not saying.
 
I speed on the highway all the time. I'm an impatient son of a bitch, with my grandpa's car.
 
before you legalize marijuana you should first legalize 180 km/hr on highway s
 
we need to get off the drug topic, or i'll start rambling on about it, and then we end up completely off topic talking about stabbing hookers in the back alley for drug money
 
LOL @ShotgunNinja careful, dont want it falling apart at 120
 
6:53 PM
@Steve Hi Wayne Brady!
 
also guys, the reason that ((int?)4).GetType() == typeof(int) is that some object methods will force value types to be boxed
 
lol, it's a 98 Intrepid, with 65000 on it.
 
Yeah, so my question is, is it possible for GetType to return a Nullable<>?
 
... I feel off context
nope
it's not
 
Hey, you brought the subject back as I was typing!
 
6:54 PM
because the GetType method will box this if it's a value type
 
It should be.
 
have you heard of autobahn
 
what if it's null?
it can't box a null, right?
 
huh
 
NullReferenceException
 
6:54 PM
it "boxes" it as a null reference
 
what is box null mean?
 
and you get an NRE if you call anything on it
 
even if it's declared as an int?
 
I've heard of the autobahn, but I doubt I'll get to experience driving on it for at least 15 more years.
 
(object)(int?)null
 
6:55 PM
fastest I went was 225 and yet I was getting schooled, that highway has no speed limit, hail germany
 
boxing is the action of taking a value type and hiding it behind an object reference
 
oh okay
 
oh, 120 kph, lol
 
i didn't know that
 
@zneak Not anything. Anything that implicitly boxes it, like GetType
 
6:56 PM
even though i was at 225 everyone was zooming by me soo fast
 
I'm from Milwaukee, WI, USA, so I think in archaic Imperial units.
 
so they were prolly 250-275
 
I meant, once it's boxed
 
Yeah.
 
one day, that one day, I will buy a bike and some nitros and aim for 325 lol....that might be the day I leave C# room forever :P
 
6:57 PM
Ninja, learn metric system.
 
I've hit 88mph on an occupied highway after work, though.
 
D'oh. You just did it again
 
@ShotgunNinja Only?
I was cruising that sometimes.
 
There was a traffic jam ahead of me, going into the city.
 
It wasn't unoccupied either.
 
6:58 PM
@ShotgunNinja that's all you need to charge your flux capacitor
 
@ShotgunNinja thats pretty bad, especially after work when its so crowded.....put ludacris' move bitch and you will go 120 mph :P
 
lololol, I'd like to not crash my grandpa's car that he gave me... He installed the engine in the damn thing when he worked at the GM plant.
 

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