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8:00 PM
I must vapulate you for your vaniloquence.
 
Awesome word: hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia
 
let me guess
fear of hippopotamuses
 
lol no
It's hippopotami btw ;)
 
I have an octopus. Bob has 3 octopodes.
 
octopie is tasty :P
 
8:02 PM
our velocious velitation has vomited vorpal vocabulary.
 
Please, nobody mention pizza pie.
 
l'fuq?
 
Good movie, Hans
 
Agreed, lol. All those V words were hard to string together.
 
8:03 PM
@ShotgunNinja verily the vocalization of veritable vanities verify our vivacious vigor, does it not?
 
I want a hippopotamus for Christmas
 
Veritably so.
also, verifies*
wrong pluralization
 
oh man, I said "vivacious vigor", that's like saying lively liveliness what a faux pas on my behalf
 
no worries.
 
Kendall, I'd say give out stars like candies (except that I don't give out candies like candies. I eat them myself)
 
8:05 PM
Vigorous vivacity would have sounded better, imho
 
@ShotgunNinja "verily the vocalization (of veritable vanities) verify our vivacious vigor"
 
is there a way I can Mask a value before I bind it so it will always have a masked value?
 
verily the vocalization (of veritable vanities) verifies our vivacious vigor for volumptuous vocabularies.
 
I think virtuosity would be a more apt word for the thought I was trying to verbalize
oh hot damn you are right
 
verisimilitude!
 
8:07 PM
pardon the vaporousness of my verbiage
 
chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/7/c
SO's new home for V for Vendetta references.
 
so that mirror in v for vendetta with the inscription?
 
anyoneee?
 
one of the v's is actually a modern u
"veniversvm"
 
quite a few are like that, actually.
 
8:09 PM
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici was the exact phrase
which is weird because Veniversum -> Veniversvm or Universeum, can't have it both ways
 
also, Vivus
wouldn't it have been Vivvs?
 
you can't have vivvs
latin ortography forbids it, I think
 
but there's no U.
right?
A most vexing mystery indeed.
 
hmm yeah, I've never seen "vivvs" though
 
still stuck
on my moq problems
 
8:13 PM
apparently I am proven wrong, yet again
 
@tehdoommarine moq problems?
 
correct, i am using moq and am having trouble testing update on a service
free 25 reputation if you can help me fix my problem
 
I've gotten 100 rep for simpler things.
 
getting reputation's pretty difficult here to be honest
 
what is rep going to get you? 25 or 100, at least he's giving some... whatever happend to just being helpful?
 
8:17 PM
have a good evening guys
 
Oh, no, I got flagged. :C
@klut I know next to nothing about moq, so I won't even try to be helpful.
 
@tehdoommarine got a question link?
 
here it is
 
what is service?
 
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Q: Setting Up MOQ Update Test

tehdoommarineI am developing Moq tests for various entities. I can setup create and delete tests fine, but not update - the entity in the repository does not change. I know this is due to the PersistAll doing nothing (probably due to a setup I am missing). This is a sample of an insert persist setup (I am lo...

 
8:24 PM
nvm
@tehdoommarine so, is this test hitting a live database, and its just not updating the database?
 
unit test, the list is public List<Thingy> mockThingies; //this is our repository
that's what it should be updating
 
ok, so you're just updating a list
 
correct
 
whats up guys
happy tuesday
 
@tehdoommarine can you post the code for service.Update?
 
8:30 PM
ok
one second
 
Hey scott
 
how you been Kyle ?
 
I'm good
 
"why don't our tags look like that?" lets make ours like that
so , now I make our tags like that,
 
question updated
 
8:33 PM
Hi all. Does anyone here use vm software like virtualbox or vmware?
 
i use the regular windows 7 one
 
@tehdoommarine that code does nothing with entity
I don't see how it would be updated
 
i have tried setting existingThingy = Thingy as well
but with no success
 
What is _Thingy?
is that the repo?
or the list?
 
8:37 PM
ok
can you show the code for ThingyRepository ?
 
ok it's based off of an IRepository as well
 
I'm interested in the interface for it more than the implementation
mostly: is there an update method?
or is there some way to get the actual list from the repo?
 
yes there is, hold on a second
public IEnumerable<Thingy> FindAll(System.Linq.Expressions.Expression<Func<Thingy, bool>> func)
{
return _Aggregate.GetObjectStore<Thingy>().Where(func);
}
 
I don't think that will work.
what you need is something like this:
_Thingy.Update(entity);
and update method:
 
Anyone familiar with WCF services got a second to answer a question? Having issues publishing metadatas.
 
8:42 PM
I've brought this up before , but the signatures in forums.asp.net are ridicilous
 
slight chance i may be able to help sam
@KyleTrauberman what should i do about the aggregate
 
public void Update(object entity)
{
    object old = list.Single(x => x.id == entity.id);
    list.remove(old);
    list.insert(entity);
}
 
hey is there a way like CTRL + B for Bold , to do a Strike Through ?
 
in chat?
 
no word , or hotmail
 
8:43 PM
@tehdoommarine Okay. Just realized i hadn't searched SO proper for this Q yet, so I'll make sure I'm not wasting your time before I ask.
 
@tehdoommarine that implementation is for an IList<T>
it may change based on your actual implementation
and I'm sure theres a better way to do it, too
 
lol i have thought of that, but the code is meant to work with a DB - and i think the PK would change as a result
 
yeah
list[list.indexof(old)] = entity;
could replace the remove/insert
in all honesty, I wouldn't worry about using the list
just verify that your service calls the update method on the repo
and call it good enough for that test
use another test to test the update method
 
ah that part does work
perhaps i could focus on the actual update in an integration test
 
yeah, this is outside the scope of the unit tests
imma post an answer
 
8:48 PM
as i promised, i'll give you the rep. feel free to post an answer and i'll vote up + accept it
 
you can only Bind to one collection at a time right?
 
just posted
 
i saw
thank you for your help
 
anytime
@tehdoommarine woo, just gave you 105 rep
 
How are eventlisteners actually implemented in code? Do they run in loops which break on some halting condition? Do they look for that condition once every certain amount of cpu cycles?
 
8:58 PM
@KyleTrauberman how do you give people 105 rep?
 
he was under 200 rep
 
much appreciated kyle
 
gave him question upvote
which put him over 200
 
@TravisJ they're called by the event manager
 
since his account was associated with meta as well
 
8:59 PM
ah i c
 
it gave him +100 on SO and Meta
 
Do you guys think this is a bit exaggerated ? Should I break it in little pieces?
 
for the assoc bonus
 
@Hanz - How often does the event manager check to see if the condition is met?
 
        clsVOUnidades.Unidades__LocalizacaoID = int.Parse(clsVOLocalizacoes.FindByWhere("Descricao = " + DAOHelper.FormataDado(dtDescricaoLocalizacao.Rows[0]["Descricao"].ToString(), typeof(string))).Tables[0].Rows[0]["LocalizacaoID"].ToString());
:( I think it is too big for a single line of code.
 
8:59 PM
one huge line?
break it up
 
@TravisJ Event Manager has locks on the events
the act of fulfilling the event condition enqueues the event handlers into some sort of queue
which is run sequentially on the thread
 
i am off
see you all tomorrow
 
iirc it's not implemented using checks, don't quote me
 
The reason I ask is because I am implementing my own "event handler" by using checks and I was curious if at some point the computer does that too. So that is not the case though?
 
no, not at all, your check handler runs on the same thread or a different one?
 
9:03 PM
Well it is in javascript, so it would be in the same thread. But javascript event handlers default out to the browser. [native code].
 
cause event manager does nothing outside of the thread it is assigned to
are you doing set interval?
 
Yeah
 
that's usually how people do it in js land
 
var check = window.setInterval("Control()", 100);
It is a full on hack, but necessary at this point until I improve the API I am using.
 
Without getting the OS to help, you can't write low-CPU, low-latency event code.
The best approach is polling with a sleep in the loop.
 
9:06 PM
you can write low-CPU, low-latency, extremely interruptive event code
 
I was referring to javascript @Kendall. Sleeping in a loop is considered long polling isn't it?
 
extremely interruptive? Explain.
 
When running the check, I notice that the cpu usage still hits 0%, and memory does not increase
It is running right now, and I cannot tell whatsoever
 
@TravisJ I don't think so. I was referring to the general case for all languages.
 
@KendallFrey basically, wrap over the resource you are watching, so it needs to go through your event code first before it can modify the resource
 
9:09 PM
That isn't event programming, is it?
 
Anyone familiar enough with EF to know how to properly use Include() on a 1-many-many-1 relationship?
 
What kind of resource?
 
like for example, SelectedIndexChanged
your SelectedIndex parameter would look like
get{return blah;} set { blah = value; Invoke(SelectedIndexChanged); }
 
hm
 
SelectedIndex is the resource being watched
 
9:11 PM
Yes, but that's creating events, not listening for them.
 
I never said listening
 
Well, that's what I was referring to.
 
but that's interruptive and not multithreaded
 
"Revolutionary."
--Gandhi
"It has changed my life!"
--Nelson Mandela
"I love August!"
--Barack Obama
 
9:14 PM
not sure what is worse, the app, or the people who actually d/l it and left reviews.
 
legit reviews
right there
i love this one
posted in november
 
Please make one for July and it would be great to have a similar app that tells you when it is 4:20 pm.
 
Ankit - November 9, 2011 - Samsung Galaxy S2 with version 1.0
WTF
It just shows a big NO on screen and nothing else.. What is soo special about this !!??
 
critical information provided with speed and accuracy. 5 stars
 
I am going to beat you all to making the IsItJuly app
 
9:15 PM
No more sleepless night spent wondering. My life is now complete!!!!!!!
 
It will be marketed as "The natural predecessor to IsItAugust".
 
oh snap, you know what tomorrow is
 
I'll tell you what tomorrow is not
 
what happened to what i wrote?
 
download it
 
9:15 PM
not august?
 
if you want to see YES
i just did
 
nevermind (wrong window) :D
 
similar aesthetics to my favorite website hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com
 
that one is easy
no logic to it
just a big nope
 
if (!(typeof worldHasEnded == "undefined")) {
document.write("YUP.");
} else {
document.write("NOPE.");
}
<!-- if the lhc actually destroys the earth & this page isn't yet updated
please email mike@frantic.org to receive a full refund -->
 
9:18 PM
because logic says that if you need to put YEP, you're dead
bah
 
The logic is elsewhere. No need for it to be replicated in the page.
 
unfortunately, if you have javascript disabled, it always displays NOPE
 
it would be awesome if it said yep with js disabled
 
hey looky here, it's ie6 compatible
 
well, the app works
display a giant NO, as advertised
A++ would download again
 
9:21 PM
good thing we now have a page to confirm if the world has ended or not
 
that one is localized
 
@KyleTrauberman not really
 
yep, localized
translated
 
stupid coder - there is no Christmas in Isreal
 
<div id="sigh"><a href="http://www.google.com/#q=enable+javascript">Enable Javascript</a></div>
<script type="text/javascript">
    var unsigh = (function(){
    var jsEn = document.getElementById("sigh");
    jsEn.parentNode.removeChild(jsEn);
    })();
</script>
 
9:26 PM
only problem with it, "US" is hardcoded as the locale
 
Christmas or Christmas Day (, literally "Christ's mass") is an annual commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ,[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christmas Christmas], Merriam-Webster. Retrieved 2008-10-06.[http://www.webcitation.org/query?id=1257008234358079 Archived] 2009-10-31. [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm "Christmas"], The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913. celebrated generally on December 25 Christmas is a civil holiday in many of the world's nations, is celebrated by an increasing number of non-Christians, and is an integral part of the Christmas and holiday...
dates of christmas differ by church
 
localized in the wrong way
 
so, localized in relation to the language, not the date
 
// This array is IsItChristmas' sole IP
lol
 
is it valentines uses php instead of js, schmancy
 
the best part is these sites all have google analytics code on them
why?
 
so they can say 5 MILLION PEOPLE NOW KNOW TODAY IS NOT CHRISTMAS
 
Hello people! Has anyone here used the Facebook real-time updates API?
 
lol
The question is, why did I go to some random IP address?
 
so he could tell you he is a teapot
its rather obvious
 
short and stout?
 
9:50 PM
I love it when people accept your answer but don't even give you an upvote.
 
like "this will work " but its not that great
 
Isn't that when you upvote but don't accept as an answer?
 
no, sometimes if your score isn't that high your not allowed to accept for another 12 hours or something like that , but you can always upvote
that coffe thread goes on forever
 
Any node.js'ers here?
 
you can ask the javascript guys - they might get mad though
 
10:01 PM
I have a personal standard of avoiding the JS room.
 
I don't know anything about node.js, but it is written in javascript right? How hard could it be.
 
It's easy to use. I'm past that part. I just have a hangup with modules.
 
In what aspect? The module pattern? Modules defined by you? Modules as node.js defines them?
 
module.exports. I don't want it.
 
What do you want?
 
10:07 PM
I want my global variables visible to other modules.
 
Can't you just expose them through a return function?
 
I don't want to use module.exports.
But it seems I have to.
 
Welcome to using someone else's code.
 
I am using VB code written in India
beat that
 
@TravisJ I've been using someone else's code since before I was using my own code
 
10:11 PM
hahaha
later guys
 
Well, for the most part so have I suppose - as far as the .NET libraries go.
 
farewell my esteemed fellow programmer
 
bye
Nothing like conforming. @Kendall - you have to use .export in order to expose those functions.
 
If I have to, I will use eval!
 
sup people. i would just like to say that stackoverflow is the greatest programming site of all time. that is all.
 
10:21 PM
Way to state the obvious. :)
 
:P ... love it here. didnt know about it until recently. lol..
 
I would like to say that stack overflow is the best site to find people who agree with that sentiment :P
 
lol yup
 
okay maybe second best after codinghorror.com
 
Did anyone else see the "raciest americans" question?
 
10:23 PM
the php one?
it got deleted before I could click on it
hey Kendall, you have 10k+ rep, wanna help a brother out?
 
Yeah, the one.
Oh, there is is!
 
you can see the full text of that question, right?
 
Yes I can.
 
yep
wow thats just a bad question
wow
 
wow is right.
 
10:25 PM
I can't see it, must not have enough rep
I did flag it though when it first came out
 
need 10k rep since its deleted
 
can you copy/paste it here for the enjoyment of all?
 
it really isn't that full of enjoyment
 
I wanna know why the poster thinks americans are the most lively, entertaining, and titillating
 
This is an example of a very bad question. Never ask this kind of question on Stack Overflow.

---

why americans are raciest and have high level of rancor in their dirty hearts? being white doesn't mean you pretty nor clean.

New americans who invaded this country and uprooted the native people, still thing they are clean. What's the F***? you killed lots of them and you are all pigs!

---
 
10:28 PM
so ?
 
I was just about to ss it and send it to hans in private room
 
Right, it was tagged
 
you know, to be fair, if we had the rancor in our hearts, it would be kind of dirty. rancors are not known for being house broken
must explain why so many of us racy americans die of heart disease
 
and they like jedi
tasty jedi
 
and what a colorful metaphor addressing the obesity epidemic in the united states
 
10:31 PM
didnt take long for that to get flagged
I knew it would
 
That's why I provided context.
Dang!
 
is it autoflagged?
or are people flagging that?
 
I doubt it.
 
dont think so
someone flagged it
 
*Whew gone
 
10:34 PM
man I wanna level up my rancor, and take it on walks in the park, it'll be my pet and I will name it Johnny.
I'll teach it all the cool rancor tricks, fetch, play dead, not getting crushed by a blast door, chee ba sa wahn solo, and .net programming
 
Remember, this is supposed to be on topic.
 
@KendallFrey sorry @kendall, fixed.
 
nice @HansZ
 
man sometimes I wanna link to just link to the post and not @ the author
 
10:39 PM
ha i c wat u did thr
@HansZ I just did that.
Or do you mean pinging?
 
yeah
 
1 min ago, by Hans Z
man sometimes I wanna link to just link to the post and not @ the author
like so
 
well I don't wanna quote the post
i wanna do the direct reply thing
 
but whatevs I don't care anymore
is there a way to bind a list or whatever to a combobox's items?
as opposed to using that list as the combobox's datasource
like if the combobox code causes the combobox's datasource to change, it modifies the list
or at least raises an event
 
10:44 PM
Well, you could bind to the DataSource property, but I don't think that would update when items are added or removed.
 
in asp.net?
 
C#
 
if (Room.Current.CurrentTopic == "ASP.NET") Ignore(Users["Kendall Frey"]);
@HansZ WinForms, WPF, Web, or What?
 
winforms
 
Oh, then I don't know.
 
10:49 PM
basically there's a 3rd party library I'm using that does logic to the list
but it doesn't update the selected index
 
I don't know how you do it @HansZ. I would not give up using javascript, css, and html to compose views ("forms").
 
winforms, it's super important
oh my god I had no idea setting combobox.Sorted = true actually sorts the damn thing
dang
 

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