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9:08 PM
 
user559633
"The Pro-Straint RC1310 restraint chair offers the most secure way to restrain violent or combative prisoners while ensuring officer safety." if you squint, this is still about databases
 
Everything is about databases. It's databases all the way down.
 
I thought it was an examination chair for urologists
then again I managed to read "validation" as "vandalism" three times on one of the hot network questions half an hour ago
 
I don't see why it couldn't be ...
 
user559633
9:11 PM
its me ur ologist how r u pee
 
user559633
okay, with that, the height of my sweet comedic abilities, i'm going to get started on bbqing
 
have a nice one:)
 
user559633
later all, hopefully get to chat with most of you on sunday
 
yup yup yup
 
in Documentation Public Beta, 2 mins ago, by meagar
I feel like the system has a ton of momentum in the wrong direction right now
in Documentation Public Beta, 1 min ago, by davidism
@meagar you mean it wasn't a good idea to give everyone with no experience writing documentation the keys to writing the documentation? No kidding. :-)
in Documentation Public Beta, 40 secs ago, by meagar
It's devolving into something truly useless right now
 
9:26 PM
I've just left after five minutes; I'm too worried I'll be suspended in a jiffy
I don't know how you guys can take it, after all it's just a hobby for me
 
9:44 PM
cbg
 
cbg
 
what's up today
 
umm...SO documentation beta is live
and it's a crapstorm
see here for some of the developments since start
 
9:59 PM
interesting :D I like the anarchy :p
 
then you'll bloom on SO docs
knock yourself out;)
 
Nope I rather like reading nonsenses, because then I can laugh, contributing nonsenses is not in my nature
 
shouldn't i always be able to access my localhost server via my ip address?
i don't know what happened.. i'm not able anymore
 
127.0.0.1 ?
 
@JoeSaad umm... I don't think localhost is related to your IP address
unless I'm mistaken, your IP tells you how to find you from outside; localhost is inside
unless you mean something like 127.0.0.1 as Marko said
 
10:04 PM
my fu.ing charger overheated, now I got out of my homemade climate :(
 
you did what?
 
I used a bottle, sliced ice in it, and then cut it, fited the fan on top, and one aside, and connected them to charger, now it's dead
 
we used to call those "red neck air conditioners"
 
I'm afraid I'm not following. Most likely interpretation: 1. you moved away from home, it's warmer; 2. your charger started overheating; 3. you tried to fix it with that icy kludge; 4. it died regardless
 
also just an ice bucket (with epson or some other salt) and a big box fan
 
10:07 PM
is that it, @Marko?:)
 
nope, let me get you into it
 
thanks
 
really fancy ones involved using a cooper coil
 
cooper as in copper?
 
yes, that tannish-brown stuff ;P
 
10:12 PM
I never know what's a typo and what's an otherwise clear cultural reference:P
 
no i mean the actual ip address on the network and used to give it to collegues to access my server from my ip
 
if its not about the Doctor or Monty Python - its probably a typo with me
 
here is how it looked like, just water was ice
 
@JoeSaad are you talking about a proxy address or actual remote access - either way you would probably get better answers on serverfault.SE or superuser.SE (depending on what your actually asking which is still not clear)
yep, homemade electric fans are fun :)
 
@JoeSaad maybe it changed
?
 
10:19 PM
@JGreenwell "cultural" of the broader kind, as in scientific culture:D
 
no! i'm using my address as in ifconfig
 
@MarkoMackic that I understood. I had difficulties understanding your timeline.
@JoeSaad you need to have all sorts of things such as ports open, firewall benign, etc. for the outside world to reach you (and you want that too)
 
and for someones (like me) it's even impossible for world to reach them
 
oh, yeah...those references I make
 
but i'm trying to access from the same machine
 
10:22 PM
@JoeSaad doesn't matter
once you use the proper IP, it goes through the internet
 
tracetr your ip to see where it stops
 
and it makes no difference where the connection originated from (unless there's something fishy, like watching for the incoming IP, which is the same)
If it wasn't clear by now, I have the user power (as in "power user") of an eight-year-old.
 
Yep, you should search on serverfault or superuser -> it is not as simple an issue to figure out as you think and you should be able to find some similar questions as pointers
 
maybe your isp changed its policies :) who knows, my isp holds me behind nat , so actually all traffic that should go to me is intercepted on their servers.
 
Aaaaand I've found a worthless numpy example written by 5 rep "coding freak" *shakes fist*
 
10:32 PM
looks like this doc stuff is not working so well :P
 
he won't be 5 rep for long - if you edit it he'll still get + rep for upvotes
 
@JGreenwell I'm deleting it:)
I only need a single approval. *fluttering eyelashes*
too late, I got approved by somebody else
hmpf
 
@AndrasDeak hmpf, i'm just somebody else?
 
hey, and I love you for it!
(besides, if you're not on my chat screen, you don't exist)
 
if you are in the chatbox you only may exist - won't know until we measure
 
10:52 PM
Lol, I wrote an example on dictionary method changes yesterday
now there is another example on dictionary method changes <3
 
just one?
 
with more upvotes
 
and no improvement request on me
I am going to revenge downvote :d
 
of course not
@AnttiHaapala :D
I've had a single topic with two independent deletion proposals, then the second guy rejected the proposal of the first
In a tag with 5 topics, out of which two pairs were duplicates
and this is the good scenario, with a low-traffic tag which is tractable
 
10:56 PM
do downvotes lose rep (per Documentation)? As I know it didn't yesterday
 
dunno
for you, or the other guy?
(answer's still dunno, I just want to be clear on the nature of my ignorance)
I think I'll just dismiss Community's "hello world" request for numpy, it's stupid
mwhahahaha
 
11:12 PM
either, downvotes were basically counted like on meta it seemed (I'll have to find the link later)
 
hmm, there's no vote breakout on docs
 
11:27 PM
Has anyone here have been into college?
 
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A: Viewing comments to downvotes in Documentation Examples

Jon EricsonDownvote reasons become Improvement Requests: If you don't want to leave a public artifact, you can dismiss the prompt: However, we hope that most people will leave feedback. Unlike questions and answers, which are usually the work of individuals, examples should be the result collaboration...

> A downvote doesn't come with a reputation loss, so there will be no incentive for anyone to fix the problem unless the Improvement Request is created
 
good to know
 
That ones nice on how we can use numpy
hahahahaha
 
How do you represent 2D arrays in mathematical notation? I was thinking matrices would do.
 
11:31 PM
If I got this correct, this is edited stackoverflow.com/documentation/proposed/changes/37574 and it was only the lines that are - ?
 
Cody's still not impressed:
Did Microsoft help you design this bit of UI? Clicking the opt-out "x" looks suspiciously like it will cancel your entire attempt to vote. That's certainly what I thought it would do. I didn't find out different until I actually tried it, and even then I wasn't completely sure if it was a bug (perhaps an artifact of not forcing a page refresh?) until coming across your answer here. It is also surprising and not at all clear that my writing a custom flag reason will be turned into a giant banner with my comment in public view. Flags don't work this way, and this looks a lot like a flag. — Cody Gray yesterday
 
but I probably didn't get it correctly
 
@MarkoMackic oh yeah, I removed a crappy superfluous example
@Ralf17 ???
2d arrays are for all intents and purposes matrices
(mathematically speaking)
 
matrices are 2d arrays, yes
vectors are 1D
Andras is just quicker then me -> I blame Canada (for making delicious whiskey)
 
11:34 PM
Maths is fun :)
and logical
 
@MarkoMackic especially formal logic
 
sipping on it right now cause my wife basically insisted (apparently dealing with executive-types requires a drink after)
 
@AndrasDeak I haven't heard of that definition
 
:D
@MarkoMackic I mean the area of maths called formal logic
@JGreenwell wait, is your wife an executive-type?
 
formal logics part of discrete mathematics (involve writing a lot of proofs)
she is disabled at the moment but was a Para-Legal
 
11:36 PM
@AndrasDeak I know :) We haven't still digged into that :)
 
ah OK
 
@AndrasDeak I want a data, in particular the iris data for my case, to be transformed into an array with weights at each attribute.
 
@Ralf17 cool
@JGreenwell come again?
 
A paralegal - "a person trained in subsidiary legal matters but not fully qualified as a lawyer"
 
yes, I read that
oh OK
I failed to put together the causal relationship between being disabled and being a para-legal. I thought it was some joke I missed on disabled/paralyzed/paralegal. You are drinking, after all:P
 
11:39 PM
I had meetings with administrators today, explaining the analysis I did on a few projects and trying to give them a "short" tutorial on Natural Language Processing.....it was fun
 
heh...not that much
 
@JGreenwell sounds real easy
 
only had a single at the moment
 
11:41 PM
I do not know if in writing the documentation I should use matrices or arrays. Because I have to represent the addition of weights for each attribute too. Say all the sepal length values gets multiplied with 1.2, all the sepal width gets multiplied with 0.8 and rest goes for the remaining iris data set attributes.
 
are you writing documentation before code?
if you're using python, and more specifically numpy, use an array
 
if you need multiple dimension (beyond 2) it might be time to start thinking about a dataframe
 
matrices are 2d arrays with some fuss, they rarely give you an advantage over arrays, but they constrain you to an eternity of 2d
 
My adviser questioned me on how do I represent the way I condition my data mathematically.
 
@Ralf17 there are so many questions I could ask now, I don't know where and if I should start
 
11:43 PM
@AndrasDeak Ask I need another brain to discuss this with.
 
as a hint (that I learned the hard way) the answer "with numbers" is not the correct one to "how do I represent this mathematically" - and usually leads to a pretty harsh proof
 
:D
@Ralf17 What exactly is your question? What do you mean by "condition/represent your data mathematically"? Why are you talking about documentation? Is there any code? What is your data? Are you planning to code? Or you planning to model on paper? Are you gathering information to decide how to program? Or are you trying to make sense of already done calculations? What exactly is your question?
+1 what do you want us to say?
 
Nope. he, my adviser, just wants me to represent my weighted data like the one seen in this paper p.4 citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/…
 
what's p.4
got it
You don't need to code ? why then question in python, you haven't answered a lot of questions
 
it's easy with the code, it's hard with the Math. You don't just do your code, you to document it as well in such a way others in the academia will understand it.
 
11:53 PM
okay
for some reason I believe that math --> code is the difficult direction
so either I'm completely missing your point, or I can't help you
and I suspect the latter
 
@AndrasDeak In some way you have helped me. My thoughts becomes more clear when I discuss problems on chat or email.
 
I really don't understand your task, I mean, if you want 2 d array of numbers you could use list with list in it, and you need every number associated with the weight you could map tuple of that number location in the 2d array and than associate the weight in dictionary.
 
delightful
@MarkoMackic no no no no
if you're working with numerical problems, numpy is the way to go
 
why ? :P
ah, that's absolutely true
 
all other reasons aside, arr[i,j] works in numpy, but it doesn't work with nested lists
 
11:57 PM
well it's like arr[i][j]
but i agree numpy is better solution in both performance and simplicity of working with numbers
 
well, many numbers, anyway
 

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