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user4639281
The original tranwrecker! I haven't had that one in a long while.
user4639281
And for reference, self answers never go into the LQPRQ.
wait I didn't leave yet. "self answers never go into the LQPRQ"?
user4639281
And, this is a valid answer:
user4639281
00:10
@Tunaki Yeah, apparently they go straight to the mod queue when flagged.
We learn new things everyday. I passed my whole day collecting Meta posts for that github.com/Tunaki/merging-naa-vlq-flags/blob/master/…
and I didn't read that anywhere.
user4639281
Yeah, same thing if it is highly upvoted and / or accepted.
that I knew
well, I found out
Btw, if you have any remarks or if it's a futile attempt at all, I'd appreciate any feedback on that --^
user4639281
Never gonna happen, but I'm not going to stop you from trying.
Why? So that I can prepare it and make an argument against that in advance :D
user4639281
00:15
First, can you tell me if there are any reviews on this?
Mine now. Which is "Looks OK"
user4639281
Why looks OK?
rhetorical attempt to answer
user4639281
@Tunaki 1. this 2. because they "have bigger fish to fry"
Wow. I have just been kicked out of a room just because I called out a moderator on his bad language. He's here too, so I guess I'll be kicked out of here too.
user4639281
00:16
@Tunaki Looks like a question to me.
user4639281
@zondo Which room?
Python.
I'm allowed back now.
"doesn't the outbound endpoint need to be set to action='ALWAYS_JOIN'?" ----> "Set the outbound endpoint to action='ALWAYS_JOIN'"
user4639281
@Tunaki Fine then, kill my helpful flag count.
user4639281
:P
00:17
:D
disputed, it doesn't count :)
@TinyGiant I linked to that post. Why would it be a reason not to do it?
Expect for the pedantic "V stands for Very".
user4639281
@zondo Honestly, the only marginally questionable word is "Damn", and if that is bad language, I'm in trouble.
Why isn't that bad language?
What is?
user4639281
@Tunaki Because that post will have killed it for you already.
I see.
There was no official answer though
Morning everyone!
00:21
Morning!
user4639281
@zondo dictionary.reference.com/browse/damn I see nothing explicit about that.
Morning is China means it's definitely time for me to sleep
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user4639281
@Tunaki Discussion !== feature request || support.
to swear at or curse, using the word “damn” The fifth definition.
@TinyGiant I'll add some more elements into why it is currently a big problem that needs fixing.
user4639281
00:22
If that's bad language, then we're all damned.
doomed you meant :D
user4639281
Toe-may-toe toe-mah-toe
If that's not bad language, I don't belong in this room. Best of wishes to all.
Rob
Rob
damn is extremely borderline bad language
it probably wouldn't even take a movie/tv show out of g rating
user4639281
I mean "Damn you all to hell" is a different story than "Well damn, ..."
@zondo I'm willing to have a chat with you regarding this - but I'm struggling to see if you're actually serious or not... the fact you came into the SOCVR to do so... I think you are
If so...let's burn this room...
user4639281
@KevinGuan My name comes up very often on that list.
@JonClements If you could suggest another room, I would be happy to discuss it with you there. This room doesn't really seem to be appropriate for it.
@KevinGuan Usage does not define good practice.
Or theology.
user4639281
48,046 occurences of damn across SO chat
48,046 occurrences of bad language across SO chat.
@zondo Are you a native speaker or not?
So my mother tells me.
Rob
Rob
00:27
The meaning of damn is not a swear. Colloquially, it became an extremely light form of a curse - but it's far from an offensive word.
user4639281
Rob
Rob
As I said before, I would doubt it would even raise a movies rating from G to PG.
Because I'm not a native speaker and for me I translate "damn" as a non bad word in my mother tongue
00:28
@Rob Take a look at the dictionary link that Tiny gave. The fifth definition says "swear". Also, movie ratings have definitely declined in value over the years.
@TinyGiant BURN!!!!! BURN ALL TEH THINGZ!!!!
Rob
Rob
@zondo 'Colloquially, it became an extremely light form of a curse'
That's not the original meaning of the word, and even now it's hardly offensive.
Is there anything that really is a curse? To me damn is the strongest form of bad language.
user4639281
That's 97,879 occurences of "damn" across all of the SE/O chats
Filter out the Lounge.
user4639281
00:30
@zondo To "curse" or "swear" is not to utter expletives.
@TinyGiant: No statistics will convince me that it is justifiable. There are many things that are wrong that are also common.
user4639281
I swear an oath to defend this room's objectives!
user4639281
I cast a curse upon our enemies!
user4639281
Neither of those statements are about expletives.
I haven't gotten kicked in 1 day
user4639281
00:31
"Damn" is not an expletive.
Is there a non bad language word that is "synonym" of damn for you?
There are several in French.
Actually, I think that damn means: "Ahhhh...Why did that happen? Noooooo." <---- not offensive.
A synonym of damn means damn. No synonym can mean something else.
"Zut" is common. It means "Well damn" but it's not offensive
Rob
Rob
@Tunaki 'To me damn is the strongest form of bad language.' - apparently the other four letter words would have been a better choice
00:32
languages evolve and what meant one thing means another or more than one meaning now
What used to mean one thing, in this case still means that. It is simply more common now for people to use it indiscriminately.
So I guess you're a native speaker.
Rob
Rob
@zondo If you argue that case - do you know the original meaning of "damn"? It most certainly is not profanity.
"damn" in the 1930's was "hard-core" - now in 2016 it's just nothing, we've got other four letter words "f*", "s*", "p*" etc...
can we all just peacefully go and close c# questions now and stuff
user4639281
00:34
> damn (v.) Look up damn at Dictionary.com
late 13c., "to condemn," from Old French damner "damn, condemn; convict, blame; injure," derivative of Latin damnare "to adjudge guilty; to doom; to condemn, blame, reject," from noun damnum "damage, hurt, harm; loss, injury; a fine, penalty," from Proto-Italic *dapno-, possibly from an ancient religious term from PIE *dap- "to apportion in exchange" [see Watkins]. The Latin word evolved a legal meaning of "pronounce judgment upon." Theological sense is first recorded early 14c.; the optative expletive use likely is as old.
so it's from the French
user4639281
> to adjudge guilty; to doom; to condemn, blame, reject
@Tunaki Wow
@Tunaki and French is mostly from Latin... and the English language is mostly bastardised from pretty much every other language in the world anyway :p
(or did I just use another bad word there!?)
00:35
Blame the French.
!!/blame
@KevinGuan It's Kevin Guan's fault.
I'm sure bastardised has French root also (
Rob
Rob
batard (with the silly a^)?
@SmokeDetector Damn.
user4639281
00:36
> bastardize (v.) Look up bastardize at Dictionary.com
1610s, "to identify as a bastard," from bastard (q.v.) + -ize. The figurative sense, "to make degenerate, debase" is earlier (1580s), probably because bastard also was serving as a verb meaning "to declare illegitimate" (1540s). Related: Bastardized; bastardizing; bastardization.
user4639281
I am perfectly satisfied that I can not convince anyone, and I am equally satisfied that no one can convince me, so I will leave. I will probably come back at some point in case someone pinged me, but for now I leave.
@Tunaki What does that word mean?
@Rob But in French, that word is actually both a real serious swear and a common word that says "a dog"
Rob
Rob
Same in English
00:37
@zondo got time for a quick chat?
Rob
Rob
But bastardized is less so
agree
@zondo I will ping you for 50 votes a day
user4639281
Now here's the kicker...
user4639281
> nice (adj.) Look up nice at Dictionary.com
late 13c., "foolish, stupid, senseless," from Old French nice (12c.) "careless, clumsy; weak; poor, needy; simple, stupid, silly, foolish," from Latin nescius "ignorant, unaware," literally "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (see un-) + stem of scire "to know" (see science). "The sense development has been extraordinary, even for an adj." [Weekley] -- from "timid" (pre-1300); to "fussy, fastidious" (late 14c.); to "dainty, delicate" (c. 1400); to "precise, careful" (1500s, preserved in such terms as a nice distinction and nice and early); to "agreeabl
@JonClements Okay; I'm back.
I don't even know the word "nice" in French. :D
@pp_ what is your most unappreciated answer
you want to bounty it?
of course
and @JanGreve too
00:41
@zondo I need to sleep now but I'm okay with not saying that word. In fact, I don't use it often. As the query up there shows.
pp_
pp_
It is possible to bounty answers?
I guess
You bounty a question and award it to the answer you want
like the funny one from BR to kayess
Rob
Rob
You can instantly grant bounty to an answer, yes
00:42
@Tunaki I'm happy to hear it. Good night.
Rob
Rob
but you can't have a bounty on an answer because well... that doesn't make too much sense
@Tunaki Bonne nuit.
Cya o/
@KevinGuan Merci :)
what @rob ?
Wow, I really have to lean French.
Rob
Rob
00:43
@Drew I mean, you can grant bounty to an answer as a reward. But putting a bounty on an answer like we do on questions doesn't make sense
An open bounty, that is.
@KevinGuan How about English? (lean) :)
user4639281
If "damn" is a problem, I don't want to see any of youze guyz writing the word "nice"!
@Rob so we shouldn't just reward each other for great answers already given?
Not sure if we are on the same wavelength
Rob
Rob
@Drew I am talking about open bounties. Open bounties mean "I want something.. anyone who can give it to me gets the bounty"
That's different from rewarding bounties
user4639281
@Rob I initially read that as "you can grant bounty to an answer as a retard"...
Rob
Rob
00:45
You can put an open bounty on a question, not an answer
user4639281
Wait, did I just say another bad word?
Rob
Rob
Not in french you didn't
:D
user4639281
:P
@rob yes we bounty a question. But we KNOw we are giving it to pp_ no ?
user4639281
@Drew What if the question gets a better answer?
Rob
Rob
00:46
Well yeah, I just meant to clarify that yes you can reward a bounty to an answer, but you can't put a bounty on an answer
so @pp_ what is your best answer
Rob
Rob
Maybe that was already clear though, and I just made things more confusing
Nevermind :D
pp_
pp_
@Drew Isn't that what upvotes are for?
user4639281
@pp_ Upvotes are for good content, bounties are for great content.
Ok let's put it this way. Jarrod Bountied Kevin G up 500 or 1000 pts in 1 minute
user4639281
00:48
Max bounty is 500
@zondo Ahhh, a typo.
:)
pp_
pp_
I thought you put a bounty on a question to get more quality answers to that question
user4639281
> typo (n.) Look up typo at Dictionary.com
1816, "compositor," short for typographer; 1892 as short for typographical error.
You know, all pp_ needs to get to 3,000 is one upvote and one accepted edit. He doesn't need a bounty.
00:49
Ok. Jarrod bountied up Kevin and Tiny. So why not pp_
pp_
pp_
@zondo You mean 2,000
Yes; sorry.
If me and some other goofball can do it. And we know pp_ busts to earn it. Let's do it
> The auto Tiny dictionary bot™
user4639281
> bot (n.)
in Internet sense, c. 2000, short for robot. Its modern use has curious affinities with earlier uses, such as "parasitical worm or maggot" (1520s), of unknown origin; and Australian-New Zealand slang "worthless, troublesome person" (World War I-era). The method of minting new slang by clipping the heads off words does not seem to be old or widespread in English. Examples (za from pizza, zels from pretzels, rents from parents) are American English student or teen slang and seem to date back no further than late 1960s.
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user4639281
00:52
@KevinGuan You calling me a "worthless, troublesome person" now?
user4639281
We could take this bad language stuff quite a ways.
@JarrodRoberson so how does this bounty thing work
lol and nope. I meant that we now have a new bot.
user4639281
We now have a new "worthless, troublesome person"?
@TinyGiant I'm it!
you ninny:P
user4639281
00:57
That's "nice"
user4639281
oooo burn
@TinyGiant Okay, after take a looked at the stuff you quoted.
Anyone here ever bounty a person and reward right away ?
user4639281
@Drew You have to wait a little, and that's a good thing too
user4639281
The longer the bounty is up, the more upvotes the Q&A get
01:01
I might need to reconsider. I have spent an hour on an Answer. Then this stackoverflow.com/a/35518233
Might not need my support :)
pp_
pp_
@Drew You already know this answer
It's one of my worst
I know boss
@Drew got a ping.
pp_
pp_
and least effort
Ok @JanGreve what is your best answer that no one liked ?
01:04
phew. Would have to go through them to know for sure.
Rob
Rob
^ (SD report) Is that a f or t? And second question: does the t/f change the behaviour of the bot, or just for statistics?
one you cared about
user4639281
@Rob tpu/k report every activity the user makes afterwards
@pp_ find one for me
You mean "no one" as in no one liked? Or more like "that is not appreciated enough"?
user4639281
01:05
sd f includes "remove"
Rob
Rob
Ah, okay
@JanGreve you are smart, they aren;t maybe you could improve it, it was overlooked
Rob
Rob
@TinyGiant So basically always f unless it's obviously spam/abuse?
@Drew, "they"?
Rob
Rob
I was hesitant to mark it as f, since it might be 'learning' what's wrong - and that very well may be a spam post in the future (in this case not really)
user4639281
01:06
@Rob Yes, apparently we're also supposed to use F for abuse / offensive.
Rob
Rob
Alright
pp_
pp_
@Drew I will search for one. But most candidates have at least another overlooked answer, so those should be upvoted too.
01:27
ok I got Jan. I go t PP for 500. Who else can do PP for 500 bounty ?
user4639281
I would, but I would lose my 10k status
PP busts .
Maybe we can ask @JarrodRoberson for that.
He gave me 1k rep so I got 10k.
no we gotta do us
pp_
pp_
Who is PP?
01:29
Yourself I think.
this guy idk
Peter Pan?
pp_
pp_
@Drew You already set a bounty?
user4639281
@KevinGuan So you cheated in your bet with sam?
@pp_ I will but not yet I will. I got Jan going but it take 23 hrs I think to accept
pp_
pp_
01:32
@Drew No hurry, I just didn't quite understand you there.
@TinyGiant I thought that it isn't a cheat :(, I didn't say I shouldn't get the rep via bounty.
@pp_ do you have any commentary about what things you should close
pp_
pp_
@Drew Huh?
@KevinGuan you more than deserve a few ;hundred points
@pp_ that's his thing
01:34
you are respected. You are already at that level
@AndrasDeak that is who's thing
me
exactly:)
pp_
pp_
@Drew I should close things?
hold
@AndrasDeak so that is my thing like being respectful ?
I agreee
Cool:P
ok so pp_ we need people people to close stuff
you have worked hard
very fast
concern being do you understand the concern about closing stufff too fast
comments ?
pp_
pp_
01:37
I would say for most questions the speed doesn't really matter
@pp_ we need to know that people that come here and try hard get a fair shake at an answer
he need to hug em and care (for like 1 minute) ... blah blah.... not race to close
we don't want someone that is uber fast to close for no reason
pp_
pp_
I often see that happen :/
great show me the compare an contrast if you want a free 500 rep
pp_
pp_
Sadly, for most questions [on hold] means they will never have a real chance to get any answers, even if they are edited and reopened.
@Drew I'm not really keen on getting rep, but I don't mind it either if you think we need more active close vote reviewers. Even though it will probably just take another month for me to get to 3,000 rep.
Also not sure what you mean by "compare an contrast".
01:51
The thing is @pp_ it is important to spend the time here to understand the important aspect of what should be closed and what shouldn't
We can chat at length. We need to chat about the balance of it all
pp_
pp_
Sure
And @pp_ your contributions for links and effort have not gone unnoticed :)
pp_
pp_
Nice to hear that :)
so the old farts like me gotta get involved. So you don't go crazy at 3k
@ArtOfCode Hmm...what does the N button mean?
@pp_ so there is some question out there python / java whatever that you may have wanted to answer. Maybe mysql or scala or up my alley. Find something and we can all answer it together for you as a team
pp_
pp_
I'm currently not aware of any question that would be worthy of the attention.
Oh and I guess it should be written as a community wiki answer.
no
We are trying to figure out the balance of people. What makes them judge stuff
@Drew bounty goes to OP, just sayin'
really ?
02:05
yup
no
@JarrodRoberson help me
user177800
Drew what do you guys need?
Kayess gets the bounty pp_ gets the bounty
user177800
????
ok start over I was fine. Then Andras said the above.
I am just trying to give rep to the little guy
user177800
02:09
Who pp_ ?
I offer rep. I give rep . 24 hours later they get rep
pp is our your python java guy
he has 2000 rep
i am trying to bump him up
user177800
Got it good as done!
pp works very hard for this room
> [the original poster] still gets bounty rep awarded if it's an answer
02:12
someone please tell me if I give 1000 or 300 or whatever rep to pp that it goes to him
I'm telling you
though I've never bountied, so don't listen to me:P
I'm also told 500 rep is the cap for bounties?
Jarrod is about to deliver his polemic
what is the syntax to make a "cv-pls" tag?
@Drew he assigned a bounty
You mean Jarrod that
02:14
yup
You mean the one guy on this site that does what he says he will do
pp_
pp_
Honestly my Java answers are the worst
Probably not the one, but yeah
Despite all the other peeps endless bullshit
well, I've been consistently behaving as a hobby closevoter, as I've claimed from the very beginning:P
user177800
02:16
Just queued up 1500 on pp_ three highest voted answers
user3956566
hi all \o
Well I will tell you right now you hysododfcrits. critz criz Jarrod makes it happen
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW ¡ʎǝɥ
user3956566
@AndrasDeak aaaaaaaaaw love it!!!!!!
user177800
Have patience 24 hours ...
02:17
@Drew my dog ate the page in my dictionary defining "hysododfcrits"
you peeps have no clue what Jarrod da da da da 4 da tag @Tunaki @HovercraftFullOfEels @Reimeus
user177800
Bounty goes to the answerer you asdign it to
user177800
Assign
love you smoochies love you rene love you gunner smooch
OK I gotta ask. Drew, do you drink in the afternoon?:D
I can make less and less sense of you as we're passing 2AM here
now it's past 3AM and I again don't get a thing you're saying
02:18
huh??
user3956566
@Drew love you smoochies xoxoxo did someone say smoochies?
what did I say
user3956566
@AndrasDeak you got to know the whole history, he makes sense trust me
user3956566
Trust me, I'm not a doctor
OK then:)
02:19
look i was an asshole to rene and gunner i admit it
i dont drink
maybe I should
Dagnabbit. Two more declined flags on duplicate answers. I'm not flagging them anymore.
custom mod?
user3956566
@Mogsdad sent the CV.. he wants to put me on his website.. !! Thanks!! :D
user3956566
@AndrasDeak probs
02:22
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW \o/
user3956566
:D
@mido [tag:cv-pls] (like any other tag). We have a tool that helps, too. Go to the team page (link in room description), then from there to FAQ.
user177800
user177800
my work is done, good night ...
@TinyGiant I need your help on something
02:31
@ArtOfCode Nevermind: data-feedback="naa".
In case anyone is nebulous i am flat out and need some help
user4639281
@Drew What's that?
I need a ui built in JS. I have no idea ,, I need some partners
I know it is too this too that
But there is money
user4639281
Ok, I need a little bit more info than that.
Somehow the "I am rich Nigerian prince, please help me smuggle my wealth" emails come to mind;D
02:45
Stack Overflow questioners usually leave out the "money" part, so you're ahead of the game there.
user3956566
@AndrasDeak ok, do you need my bank account details?? :D
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW girl
user3956566
@Drew yo!
user3956566
you have a job for me mister??
user3956566
and I mean that in a good way.
02:48
I am trying to deal with this guy not my Ducks
user3956566
ok, so you need to tag a team member WWE
user4639281
Ok, so what exactly do you need though?
No I wanna start a thing with Tiny
user3956566
@JarrodRoberson I need a bounty.. ! please please please please please :D
user3956566
hang on, is anyone here talking to me?
02:50
no
user3956566
ah k
user4639281
lol
user3956566
@TinyGiant well he pinged me! It was confusing :D
ok so I say this he randomly showed up
@Reimeus u are the bet
best
user4639281
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Did I say I hate wordpress?
user4639281
02:51
Cause I hate wordpress
user4639281
And you know what I hate more than wordpress? Wordpress.
user3956566
@TinyGiant I really bleep bleep bleepity bleep wordpress
user4639281
You know how to remove their automatic responsive srcset bs?
user3956566
@TinyGiant mysql with customised php and wordpress
user3956566
@TinyGiant I'm voting to close this as unclear. please provide more info if you'd like an answer
user3956566
02:54
I can most likely help you and am happy to, but prob need to go to a separate chat room
user4639281
> WordPress 4.4 will add native responsive image support by including srcset and sizes attributes to the image markup it generates. For background on this feature, read the merge proposal.
user4639281
Not sure where that was quoted from, but the guy I'm helping right now just quoted it
user3956566
@TinyGiant there's ways around everything
user4639281
Nevermind, he fixed it.
user3956566
ah k
user4639281
02:55
Not sure how, don't want to know how.
user4639281
So @Drew, should we go somewhere to have a chat?
get a room you two!;)
and good night to all
user3956566
@TinyGiant that reminds me of the monte python cheese shop sketch., ah no we don't the cat just drank it
user4639281
Lol
so you mean my ah pierce.drew skype
user4639281
02:58
I don't have skype.
user4639281
How big is the project? Worth a slack?
user4639281
@Drew email?

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