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user1596138
4:00 PM
I'm asking what speeds I can get at the new house now....
 
Just ask @KendallFrey
 
posted on June 23, 2014

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I'd really hate to see internet prices in a state like Wyoming.
They probably have to use IP Over Carrier Pigeon there.
 
Do you mean IP over Avian Carriers?
 
@Retsam IP Over Carrier Pigeon is really quite a reliable protocol. You lose at most 80%, and some of the pigeons don't even need to be fed afterwards.
 
4:05 PM
@Neil unless there happens to be a guy with a shotgun nearby
 
According to GoT they used ravens way back in the day
those seemed pretty reliable
 
@JanDvorak Yeah, we call those "dropped packets"
 
@SecondRikudo the difference is that in the US/Canada you actually get what you bought
 
IPoAC packet loss has reduced significantly when we switched from magnetic disks to flash drives
 
4:09 PM
@Neil I offer my socket for testing
 
@Mosho Move your cursor in the little box
 
nothing
I see (what I assume is) yours though
now there's 4
 
Refresh the page
 
@Neil cool
 
I see it now
I tried keeping track of cursor position while trying to moderate the amount of web traffic
 
4:10 PM
that's awesome
 
And to keep it from looking all dotty, it linearly moves the cursor so it looks smooth :)
 
Mine is near the bottom
 
user1596138
Oh fuck
 
why can't I move it
it won't move :(
 
user1596138
> Josiah, I see that at the new address there is not currently internet available. However we do have phone and DirecTV available as well as internet offered through Verizon wireless on their 4G LTE network.
 
4:11 PM
this always happens at crucial moments
 
@Mosho Move what?
 
user1596138
Fuck that. That is not what I wanted to hear. I'm right fucking beside a bunch of decent cities.
 
I think it crashed :(
Heh
 
@Jhawins free-space optics?
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak Huh?
 
user1596138
4:13 PM
Oh that. No way
 
Or maybe it didn't crash.. kind of difficult to understand what it's doing
I'll try to improve the functionality a bit and show you guys progress if you want
 
Can you get a line of sight to the home of someone who is willing to stick a giant satellite into their window?
 
@Jhawins steal internet using a highly developed system of mirrors and fiber optic cables
 
@JanDvorak Or a laser
 
user1596138
Indiana is flat
 
user1596138
4:14 PM
So no
 
isn't that the place filled with rednecks ?
 
user1596138
I just need to check other providers...
 
FSO could actually be very useful as an alternative to tossing one end of a giant UTP cable across the street
 
user1596138
 
user1596138
What does this mean
 
4:15 PM
@Jhawins if it works for tv it must work for fiber cables durr
Elaborate system of mirrors held by small drones that let you watch the TVs from your closest sports bar (at home). http://t.co/eOpkwtcKuU
 
omg unlimited email and webpages WHERE DO I SIGN
 
user1596138
There's satellite services...
 
@Jhawins It means your internet provider is a big believer in evolution, and that early birds were indicators of this during a more hostile time with higher monthly rates
 
@Jhawins this mean you'll get about the same parameters as me, except several times the price
 
seriously though, that's the shittiest deal I've ever seen
 
user1596138
4:17 PM
What does "email and web pages" entail, and how the flying fuck will they know?
 
about ten times, to be exact. And you don't even get a TV and phone for that price.
 
user1596138
Fuck. I can't rent this house if I can't line up decent internet...
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak That price is decent here. No point in complaining on it. It's the features I'm not excited about. I've NEVER had bandwidth limits on home internet and I'd pay just about any price to not start.
 
Sign your soul to a mobile provider
 
death by cross browser
 
4:19 PM
5GB is not nearly enough for porn
 
mobile chrome does what i want, but not desktop chrome
 
so much porn
 
@Jhawins are you complaining about 12Mb being too slow?
 
!!youtube giant box of porn 40 year old virgin
 
shouldn't date input in chrome only accept 4 digit year, or is there some actual reason it needs to accept 6 digit year?
 
4:20 PM
!!!undo
 
Oh. FUP. Let them go to hell.
 
what
!!undo
 
@CharlieBrown ask again in 7986 years
 
4:20 PM
!!undo 17322081
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak No. bandwidth limits.
 
user1596138
I just said that
 
maybe they will have consistency in browsers by then
 
user1596138
1 min ago, by Jhawins
@JanDvorak That price is decent here. No point in complaining on it. It's the features I'm not excited about. I've NEVER had bandwidth limits on home internet and I'd pay just about any price to not start.
 
user1596138
Fuck I am pissed off.
 
4:21 PM
by "bandwidth", I understand the speed
 
@rlemon why did Cap say "did you mean undo" when I typed !!undo
 
@Jhawins You could set up a rpi to download all torrents during the night
 
@RUJordan I was scratching my head at that vid
 
@copy why rpi? utorrent can do that natively
 
user1596138
@copy And just not ever stream anything again
 
user1596138
4:22 PM
I could go through 50gb in a month. Easy.
 
@Mosho it was supposed to be a movie scene but Caprica's youtube-fu has failed
 
I wonder if I could convince uTorrent to schedule an HTTP download too
 
@copy if it's for shows, look into sickbeard
it's epic
 
@JanDvorak Electricity costs
 
99% of my bandwidth goes to Youtube.
 
4:24 PM
!!afk time to lift
 
user1596138
Fuck
 
do you even lift
 
user1596138
AT&T has 4G here... But I don't think it comes cheap
 
hewwlpp pwws
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Q: JS Cookie set in 2 places, doesn't overwrite first set

Nick DuggerI am using the same script on 2 different pages, to set the same cookie. My assumption would be that even though the two pages are (slightly) different paths, they would simply overwrite the cookie instead of duplicating entries into it. My first page's path is: example.com/classifieds/business...

 
@JanDvorak forever stuck in the TV-tropes of youtube?
 
4:25 PM
@Jhawins unlimited data?
@RUJordan mostly music and let's play videos
 
let's play what?
 
mostly of minecraft
 
don't leave game grumps on all day
 
@NickDugger my hint #1: don't use text-speak when asking on SO. There's no reason to save one character in the title.
 
oh you're a minecrafter
i like the game but i never have time to play it :(
plus im terirble at it
 
4:28 PM
@RUJordan Watching, not recording
 
 
nice
 
@JanDvorak oh gotcha
build anything cool?
@Mosho yeah I wonder how long it took to build that
I wonder if it has an interior
 
@RUJordan You may. Do you want me to subscribe?
 
I am on the highwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to hell
 
4:31 PM
@JanDvorak umm, I'm not sure what you meant there.
 
user1596138
There's no way out of this.
 
user1596138
There just isn't an internet provider
 
Or am I just tired and missing connotation?
 
user1596138
I'm right next to everyone I know has it.
 
@JanDvorak not sure what you're referring to.
 
4:31 PM
@Jhawins location, location, location
@Jhawins then ask said somebody to open you his wifi
 
user1596138
...
 
@Jhawins set up a trail of signal repeaters to your house
 
@NickDugger I'm refering 2 the title & the "plzzz halppp"
 
@RUJordan You'd have to generate that programmatically
 
duhhh
 
user1596138
4:32 PM
@RUJordan I'm honestly thinking I might have to...
 
user1596138
lmao
 
Just sayin'.. ._.
 
user1596138
I could do it super long range
 
Oh that wasn't built by hand?
 
user1596138
With lasers
 
4:33 PM
That was a joke lol repeaters (good ones) are expensive
 
lasers with mirrors
@RUJordan it's a one-time cost, though
 
user1596138
But I'd have to catch the beam...
 
user1596138
See, the area the beam comes from is relatively the same altitude as the area I'd catch it. But there's trees and fields between them and a straight line would run into maybe 40 different major obstructions. At least.
 
so put a giant mirror up
and reflect it where necessary
 
@JanDvorak very true. I convinced my mom a signal repeater would be good to boost cell phone service in her house. I showed her a simple cost calculation that would start saving them money (by ditching their house phone in favor of their cell phones) within 4 months
 
4:35 PM
@JanDvorak I used 2 because I am referring to the number 2...
 
@Jhawins how many times do I have to tell you MIRRORS
GAWD
(if you can't tell I know nothing about repeaters besides their existance)
 
in which case, that's still a saving of just two characters
 
user1596138
> What're you doin' on my land boi?! Setting up mirrors.
 
user1596138
Yeah. Ok.
 
user1596138
I used to be waaaayyyyy into lasers/light.
 
4:36 PM
Ok, buy their land first
 
@Jhawins how much exactly for a piece of land?
 
user1596138
We hooked the xbox up to the old coax cables and I ran that into multiple colored lasers. The lasers were the video feed.
 
have two drones. One that hovers in place in high air with a giant mirror dangling from it, and one that recharges the first one.
 
user1596138
Was sick. But you think it's annoying when somebody walks in front of a traditionally hooked up TV... Damn that was annoying.
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak Yes.
 
user1596138
4:38 PM
Or purchase 2 tall towers and start my own personally ISP service in Larwill IN haha
 
@Jhawins people dont change u know
see darkyen.vacau.com hingnikar.com am still a retard
 
@Jhawins pays off in a few years at most
 
user1596138
NOOO I've been typing the wrong address all morning
 
LOL just buy a 40 meter by 2inch strip of land to run a cable xD
 
@RUJordan cable + wifi = local ISP
 
user1596138
4:40 PM
@RUJordan I'd need a 6 mile strip, not 40meters...
 
for real?
 
If you start an ISP and just name it "Not Comcast" your marketing is done for you
4
 
user1596138
Idk that's how far the closest person I know would let me steal their internet lives haha
 
user1596138
How the fuck would I know how far I'd have to go?
 
@Jhawins still doable
 
4:41 PM
If you're stealing it, do you really have to ask to use it?
 
user1596138
It's not like the neighbors get internet
 
yet.
 
user1596138
I'm not sure how to progress here
 
G'morning
 
4:45 PM
The only internet I can get in my area that's over 15mbps is Comcast
 
I made this for an interview app - could people play around with it and find bugs? mashape-todo.herokuapp.com/#
(FB login required)
 
I will.
 
m59
@SomeKittensUx2666 ahh cool, you're going for it :)
Did you talk to Emily? She was really nice.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 bug #1: requires FB login
2
 
4:47 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 hiii
 
@Jhawins oh btw the Steve Aoki show on saturday was INSANE
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 What's the phone number thing for?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 it should be possible to add a task without tags
 
I've come to the conclusion that @JanDvorak is an uptight individual.
 
4:48 PM
@NickDugger One of the requirements was to text via Twilio when a task was done
 
Ah, ok
 
@JanDvorak Nice find - fixing now
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 that underlined X doesn't really look like a cross
@SomeKittensUx2666 I like the live filter
 
user1596138
AT&T has literally the shittiest website I've ever seen for such an established company
 
user1596138
4:50 PM
It just doesn't work.
 
It should have some sort of archiving for tasks. I wouldn't want a giant blob of green, completed tasks sitting there for weeks.
 
As much as I love T-Mobile, their site breaks on mobile.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 some tooltips (say, for the checkbox on the far left) would be nice
@SomeKittensUx2666 autocompletion for tags would be nice. I suggest checking out Chosen.
 
m59
In mysql, can you use the insertId as a value as it's being inserted?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Accidentally deleting tasks is way too easy
 
m59
4:53 PM
INSERT INTO users (foo) VALUES (INSERT_ID)
something like that?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Y U NO validate the phone number?
 
@m59 ...vot?
 
m59
that example was too abritrary
INSERT INTO users (username) VALUES(`user`+INSERT_ID)
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 it's possible to submit a task without a priority, but it's not possible to toggle the dropdown back to empty.
 
m59
I'm thinking I would have to create the record, then get lastInsertId and update the record. If there's a way to make that one transaction, that would be sweet.
 
4:56 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 tabbing into the dropdown gives no visual indication that it is focused. This breaks accessibility.
 
It kinda looks like it would be a mobile app, and therefore will have no tabbing anyways.
Depends on the platform, I'd think
 
it's probably terrible on mobile
 
m59
INSERT INTO users (username) VALUES(CONCAT('user', LAST_INSERT_ID()+1))
maybe
 
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 412 (Precondition Failed) http://mashape-todo.herokuapp.com/text
I think ^ happens when you check a box
 
@NickDugger You haven't entered your phone number
 
4:58 PM
I'm not even on that page
I'm checking a task's box
Oh
Right
You said that it sends text upon task completion
 
m59
@SomeKittensUx2666 you could just put a check in there for that
 
user1596138
Ok @RUJordan I have a plan
 
m59
if (!phoneNumber)
 
How long does it generally take to send a text? Or has it got that yet?
 
m59
well, you know that, but I mean I would put that in.
 
5:01 PM
@m59 already done, not pushed
@NickDugger It won't ever
 
m59
cool
 
I'm not paying for that
 
Ah, lol. That was my guess
 
user1596138
Get StraightTalk's unlimited 4G data over AT&Ts excellent network here. Pay $45/month for phone and internet. Whenever they ban me for being an extremely large user I just buy a new sim card hahaha
 
heh, nicely done
 
5:02 PM
wut
 
@Jhawins Hahaha I hate you guys
 
user1596138
I seriously have to get creative here...
 
Move
 
user1596138
@SomeGuy Bro I'm serious haha. I need some design work for an app for the company. Nothing complicated and I don't have the ability to think of good looking things. I'd pay you
 
But primarily HTML5 games. NodeJS stuff recently. I can do frontend, but I don't enjoy it much
 
user1596138
5:02 PM
You're not the only one I've mentioned it to :P. I'm not just picking on you
 
Hahaha, gotcha
 
user1596138
@SomeGuy Ah lame
 
I'm telling you man, mirrors.
 
So here is my flow for the tutorial i am going to give
 
@mikedidthis is the most amazing design person I know
Anyway, be back after dinner
 
user1596138
5:03 PM
!!afk lunch... Subway
 
they have primer of css/html but no clue on browser so probably gonna speak about DOM a lil, then take it to scripting languages and slowly end on some common js practises and good tips ? end up linking them here /?.
@Jhawins me envy
 
@AbhishekHingnikar teach me the ways
 
the ways of ?
 
m59
hah! that query works! MYSQL +1 for me!
 
outsourcing
 
5:05 PM
mostly css
 
The USMNT advances with: - A win over Germany OR - Defeat the Minoans AND recover three artifacts OR - Build a Wonder
 
I can tackle JS on my own eventually, I can't figure out how to make anything not look like a geocities site
 
I started off as a designer (nickdugger.com -- slow and outdated, but it has things). Then I learned PHP, then JavaScript, then Node, then C#
 
@NickDugger quick question: in C# can you insert into specific grid rows of an xaml grid?
 
I'm not THAT good with C#. I can only just "Get by" lol
 
5:06 PM
Being so accustomed to best practices that you completely blank when presented with a jQuery app.
 
@mrzepka Of course, but why did you ask that, and here?
 
ah, gotcha. The C# room doesn't seem as friendly
all their problems are from people who have an idea of what they're doing it seems
 
You need to know what you're doing first before anyone can help you
 
@mrzepka WAT the C# room is the friendliest of the large rooms.
 
@KendallFrey I'm new to SO, I didnt know that
@copy yeah, but I also don't know how/what to ask effectively yet. I'm working on building google-fu experience before bringing dumb questions anywhere... Unfortunately I'm struggling in that so far.
 
5:10 PM
@NickDugger the lip ring with the curly moustache was a bad choice. #just-saying
 
Yes it was, that picture is old, lol. Lip ring is long gone
 
good man.
might have looked better without the stache. but if it comes down to lip ring vs curly ended moustache.... moustache wins hands down
 
!!mustache 1408759
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Could not process input. Error: a.findUserId is not a function on line 105
 
yea I think the new FF update borked stuff
only thing I can think of
 
5:12 PM
Aye, it's not curly anymore, but is also fuller. I've always had a good beard, but had trouble growing a nice moustache until recently
 
@Zirak the new FF update broked urthing
 
!!fixit
 
@rlemon That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
@Zirak - broken
 
5:13 PM
^ must listen too
and my local git is fucked :/
 
!!wheatly
 
@Cereal That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: wheatly
 
git reset --hard HEAD
 
!!no
 
5:16 PM
@Cereal He's actually taking a week-long break from the company.
 
no.jpg
 
Seeing as how I got no help the first time, here's my question again:
 
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Q: JS Cookie set in 2 places, doesn't overwrite first set

Nick DuggerI am using the same script on 2 different pages, to set the same cookie. My assumption would be that even though the two pages are (slightly) different paths, they would simply overwrite the cookie instead of duplicating entries into it. My first page's path is: example.com/classifieds/business...

 
5:17 PM
@NickDugger ...odd
 
Yes it is
The weirdest part is that, yeah C# uses the first bdView (which sounds like that should be the way it works), but each page (when it gets the cookie in JS) uses the correct one, even if it isn't the first one in the cookie.
Makes no sense
 
Looks like you're using document.cookie wrong
 
Probably
 
Try using it right
 
I'd love some of your wisdom
 
5:22 PM
I have never used document.cookie
 
You've used cookies otherwise?
 
It's deprecated anyway, I'm using localStorage
 
sorry, I support IE8
can't deal with so much recent technology
 
I have to support IE8 for work
We have a pretty... bad client-base
 
m59
@SomeKittensUx2666 great, now the internet can give us cancer! (in response to nasa laser...wherever that went)
 
5:25 PM
@NickDugger My guess is that you have to set path and domain every time
 
I am, but I'll try setting them alongside setting the other ones, see if it helps.
 
@copy it didn't help
 
guys with girlfriends/wifes
you gotta show them this
 
m59
5:34 PM
@FlorianMargaine dude that's amazing.
It's like good software, but it's a dress.
6
 
hahaha
yeah my wife's trying a couple of styles right now
she's having so much fun :P
 
Very cool indeed
 
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
in b4 'wrong room, guy'
 
5:44 PM
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper Hello :-)
 
do you realize JavaScript !== Java?
before we get going that is
 
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper why?
 
2 mins ago, by BoltClock
in b4 'wrong room, guy'
 
@m59 laser cancer!!
 
5:46 PM
@BoltClock yes I saw
just asking
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper well the ip address if available would be part of the headers on the server
unless you are using node we probably are still the wrong room
 
Java = node.js = Javascript = jQuery = PHP, duh guys
 
you should be able to
 
@RalphWiggum the singularity is here
 
@RalphWiggum AUGH WHY DID YOU USE ASSIGNMENT?!?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 since they're all equal :(
 
And even worse, they're all PHP.
 
NOW THEY ARE, THANKS
 
m59
It's true, jshint is telling me I need to put $ at the beginning of my variable names.
 
m59
Let the intense trolling begin.
 
5:49 PM
@SomeGuy thanks! :D
 
evenings
 
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
m59
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper you need to route the controller through your global generator and concatenate the result in Tomcat's config.ini. If you set the port correctly, it should work fine.
 
@BadgerGirl She has already seen it
 
Why is php so popular ??? I heard it had so many holes that even facebook created an php extension so it can be faster/better. My friends said to me is was not a good server language.
 
5:53 PM
@copy You were right, I think. I just had to set them WITH the actual value: stackoverflow.com/questions/24370738/…
 
@WalleCyril inertia
 
m59
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper Since I don't know anything about Java and this isn't a Java chat room, I just took a really specific guess.
 
@WalleCyril It's easy and makes sense to non-developers
 
@copy I don't want it.
 
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper wat?
 
5:56 PM
@BoltClock wrong room, css guy
 
@BadgerGirl Ok
 
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper wat?
 
5 mins ago, by Ralph Wiggum
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper have you tried turning it off and on again?
I don't think he gets it...
 
He's missing a verb
 
m59
Should we blame people that can't figure out the difference between Java and JavaScript, or the silly gents that named JavaScript?
 
5:58 PM
Definitely the people who mix them up
 
@oneplaceJavaDeveloper I like cheese and unicorns aswell
 
Netscape and Sun are to blame for the name
 
@NickDugger Both are dead now. Who knew naming a language could lead to your death
 
Lets go back to calling it either Livescript or Mocha.
 
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