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10:01 AM
You know the War of the Worlds radio program caused many people to commit suicide
It was even made clear that it was a story in the beginning, just that people tuned in in the middle
Announcing something like that, you'd have to realize the possibility that you may be killing people
 
user2985029
that's just terrible
 
all the talk about CERN and black holes made me forget we have a simple way to check for it !
whheeww...
 
Thank god for that website
 
source is pretty funny
 
Bookmarked
Hmm I have no idea how to even start on this maps thing. Can I just do google.com/maps/place/+parameters(in js, the vars being the information in the div) ?
 
10:11 AM
@DavidH Try it. Be sure to escape the text you put in the url first
 
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Q: Returning a promise gives "Supplied parameters do not match" in TypeScript

TrueBlueAussieI am in the middle of converting a jQuery plugin to use promises instead of callbacks. This should be very basic, but not sure if the problem is my approach in chaining promises, my return type, or TypeScript just being fussy. I keep getting this error: Error 27 Supplied parameters do not m...

 
@Neil Do you mean for example '+'+varName ?
 
@jAndy thank god
 
@DavidH No, I mean certain characters are special in urls like =?/&
If you throw in the variable value into the url, it could change the meaning of the url if there are these characters
 
Oh right! Will make sure of it!
 
10:23 AM
@DavidH one can always urlencode the value though
 
That'd be easier I suppose
 
i love toil
was down to 17days holiday left this year, now up to 21 again.....oooo yeah!!
 
Is that how grim a full time carreer looks like? Comparing 21 days to my entire summer vacation feels frightening..
 
user2985029
lol
 
@DavidH my annual allowance before toil days etc is 25
 
10:36 AM
@DavidH Aren't you working at least part of your vacation, though?
 
+ public and bank holidays
 
!!define toil day
 
Time Off In Lieu
 
!!define lieu
 
@DavidH Well, when you go to school you don't get paid :D
 
10:37 AM
Whoa >.<. @Kippie I'm a student, currently intern, I won't be!
 
Bot not here, don't waste your bytes.
 
@SecondRikudo Unless you're being funded by the gov! Which isn't comparable to being paid like a real job.
 
@Kippie if i wirk excess hours (as in crazy excess) you get the time back to take as we dont get paid overtime
 
Oh, like that
 
in this example i am working 15hour days weds-sunday, so for each day (5 days in this case) i get an extra day holiday, even though im effectively workign 10xdays worth of hours
 
10:38 AM
@DavidH Money isn't the question. Your quality of life and how much you enjoy that money is the thing
 
Over where I'm at (Belgium) we get 20 days off + some paid official holidays.
However, seeing as a "regular" work week here is 38 hours, and I work 40, I get 12 days extra per year
 
(plus earning £100 a day extra on top of my normal salary)
 
I'm not sure I'd take a 10k/mo paying job if I need to work 16 hours a day, and even in the other 8 remain available for emergencies.
 
@SecondRikudo £10k a month?! I dont earn anywhere near that!
 
@DrogoNevets I'm exaggerating on purpose...
 
10:39 AM
oh ok
 
@DrogoNevets Unbelievable, the hours you make. I very much hope you earn a lot, more than average at least.
15 hours a day seems unbearable, not sure if that's even allowed here.
 
@DavidH its a little different
thats not a normal day
 
what are your average working hours/weeks ?
 
my company is sponsoring Goodwood festival of speed, and im going down and manning the stool
 
its around 40 for me
 
10:41 AM
its a one off, and wont happen again....until next year
mine is 7.5 a day
and im very strict in not doing overtime when i dont have to. i like going home to my fiancee
 
Right, that makes more sense. Mine is 9 every day as intern(45 minute break included).
 
@DavidH What do you do as an intern?
 
@DavidH but either way, according to the office of national statistics my hosuehold (just me and my partner) is in the 99th percentile for income in the UK
so am happy with my salary
and thats post deduxtions (tax/NI/pension/charity giving/etc)
 
@DrogoNevets That's good to know at least, it'd be frightening to know if that was your full time schedule. @SecondRikudo I've had 3 projects so far I had to fulfill myself at this web development company. Basically I need to tear Wordpress apart and make sites for the customers, big ones it seems.
 
@DavidH word press sites?
 
10:43 AM
@DavidH If they were "big" customers, you wouldn't have used wordpress.
 
@SecondRikudo +1
 
Well I didn't generally mean big but, comparing my other classmates of which some only get questions like: "Can you make a header or footer for this site".
 
@DavidH what budgets do the projects have?
 
Two of them were a catalogue for oil companies which is quite popular among them.
You mean the customers?
 
the prject will have a budget, what is it?
what are the customer paying your company for the product?
 
10:47 AM
I haven't been told that but I overheared them say around 3-6k for one of them, the other was my boss's side company of which the site is a mobile version of the existing one. He seemed to have sold 3 ad's already to place on the site of which they are around 1k-1.5k each.
 
@DavidH no offence, they are tiny projects
the last big project i worked on had a budget of £3.2b and increasing
 
Yea I said it wrong, but comparing my classmates it was. Should've completed my sentence.
Christ lol.
Though I consider the projects to be quite decent for my empty portfolio.
 
@DrogoNevets lol, Bikeshed problem at its finest
@DavidH Yup. Do you have a website?
 
any prject is good for an empty portfolio, as long as they ar epublic facing and you can link to them
@SecondRikudo what you mean? more money than sense?
 
@SecondRikudo Under construction yes. I suck at design so i'm working on that!
 
10:49 AM
@DavidH pay someone, seriously
 
I generally am more backend than frontend at all.
 
@DrogoNevets More money than one can easily grasp and handle
 
@DrogoNevets Should I really?
 
@DavidH Listen to @DrogoNevets
Yes, you should.
 
@SecondRikudo yea, thats what you get when the company has a operating turn over of £45b-£60b ayear
 
10:50 AM
If you're going to be entering the business, having a nice website with your portfolio/cv is critical
 
@DavidH yes i suck at design and had my site designed, im ok at css and html so i implemented it, only cost £250
its still not finished but kinda jsut good enough to have live
 
But for a student like me, isn't it a little bit disappointing to the company I want to apply for my next internship that I didn't make my own portfolio?
 
(finding time amongst wedding planning is difficult atm)
@DavidH are you applying to be a designer?
 
@DavidH Why the hell do they need to know who made your website?
 
@SecondRikudo +1
 
10:51 AM
Because they might really like it and within the conversation ask if I made it.
 
i would get a design, and thenc oncentrate on it being good from a technical point of view
 
It almost always goes like that with a project and such(As student I've noticed) they'd say, "wow did you make that?!".
 
@DavidH at which point you say yes, and they expect you to be a designer
designing and making are 2 different things
 
Right right, but now it makes more sense because you mentioned "getting a design".
 
i made a kit car once, but i didnt design it
 
10:52 AM
@DavidH Let's ask it like this
 
There we go, now I don't feel bad about getting a designer!
 
Given a PSD or even a JPG of a website's mockup, can you make a working client-side markup?
 
Yep.
 
(BTW my website needs to be finsihed, and then soon as thats done, its getting re-designed from scratch and starting again)
 
Good. All that's left to do is get that PSD then :D
 
10:53 AM
@DavidH thats what you need to do then
but make sure its a PSD so you can get the background images easily
 
@DrogoNevets If you're applying for backend, your website isn't as important
It's still nice-to-have, but not as critical as it is for a designer
 
Heck the first step is the PSD in which i'm stuck hehe, but thanks for the advice guys I'll do that! Also about your website, you just let someone made one to have a live version before having a complete one right?
 
find a graphics student who wants to add web design to their portfolio and you can probably get a reasonable design from
 
More important is: Notable contributions to OS, notable contributions to Stack Overflow, projects you've taken on.
 
@DavidH no i started, now i want to rebuild it in AngularJS not bootstrap.....
 
10:55 AM
I'll move a floor up my school since my school is actually a Designer school, with backend included for Game and Web, but separate studies.
 
@DrogoNevets Angular? For a homepage?
Sounds like a bit of overkill, don't you think?
 
Oh right, I'm also not a fan of bootstrap. In fact I completely want to avoid such frameworks, just because I want to show off my own skills sort of.
 
@SecondRikudo it nor JUST a homepage though
 
@DavidH Bootstrap is great for specific purposes.
 
its also my gallery, project showcase (when they get published - again time), CV, etc, etc
 
10:56 AM
It's awesome for websites where you don't want to put too much time on the base design
 
@DavidH it served is purpose
 
When I hear bootstrap I more so get a mobile feeling. But yea it does what it does.
 
It sucks for more customizied things
 
again its still not finished so please dont think it is!
its also not got my latest role on it (in portfolio/CV section)
 
Way better than what I have, which is horrid.
At the very least, might you need a job you have a portfolio!
 
11:00 AM
Afternoon
 
@DavidH ive been at it a little longer than you though
 
Good afternoon! Probably yea, I haven't really tried to get mine good looking..
 
@DavidH need to push it onto amazon webservices though and not host at home now ive lost my fibre connection
 
Yea that'd be better. Ah losing fibre, what a feeling that must be..
 
righteo, lunch time for me
 
11:02 AM
@DrogoNevets ramnode.com you're welcome.
 
!!afk the game
@SecondRikudo this isnt free......
 
Have a nice lunch!
 
@DrogoNevets $1.33 a month costs less than your domain...
 
Holy crap, those prices!
 
@DrogoNevets, enjoy it. I too, am on lunch now.
 
11:03 AM
@SecondRikudo Which one do you recommend for a portfolio site? I'm currently on my friends for free but it's not as impressive as it may seem..
 
@DavidH I recommend you get a 128MB VPS, learn how to set up a server, how to install PHP and the rest of the things that you need. Work with Nginx
If you want to really shine among the rest of the web devs out there (and there are plenty of web-devs), learn a little about a lot.
My main area is PHP
However, I also know HTML, CSS, JavaScript, responsibe design, IT, configurations, linux, windows, photoshop, gimp, etc.
I'm probably not an expert in either of those (except for maybe the first 3), but I sure as hell know a thing or two about them.
 
Same here, about being mainly PHP and than mixed knowledge of some others. As long as you qualify for a job more than the average in the same profession.
 
I want to ask a question... How does this work?
 
Having all these skills in your possession is good for you and makes you more professional, and it makes you more desirable for employers.
 
Haha, true!
 
11:08 AM
@SecondRikudo, The picture does not want to load...
Tried a direct link as well
Oh wait. It loaded.
Magic.
I get you
 
@SecondRikudo Also forgot to ask you, mr. How are you liking the world of your supposed 'Will', or well mom's 'Will'?
 
@DavidH I didn't like her taking over my body like that. She'll pay for that.
 
How could I approach the scenario where I to make a VM out of a PHP backend. I already have my PHP API set up. I need to now get it onto a JS Front End
 
@SecondRikudo Also, don't you dare and become a good guy when you're back!
 
@DavidH Hell no. I'm still going to save the world.
And that puny little fox brat won't stand a chance.
 
11:14 AM
Good because if you did, me and a lot of other people would close the book on the entire series. All jokes aside, I really only read it now to see your resolve, since you're the best character out there!
 
@DavidH I own.
Although I liked Madara better in the manga than his implementation in the anime
 
Yea you do! I think i'd agree on that yea. Perhaps even in generations he was portrayed better, not sure if you've seen the cutscenes from it?
 
@SecondRikudo These days being a Frontend Dev without at least an intermediate level of photoshop is unacceptable
 
How does jQuery do 'ready' event on elements?
If the element doesn't exist yet, how can you attach onload listener?
I feel stupid for asking because I suppose I should know it
Is the only way to add onload on the element itself?
 
@Neil I don't know, but I'm guessing that it applies the event on a higher element (probably the document) and allows the event to bubble
 
11:27 AM
@SecondRikudo You think it listens to all dom creation events and then triggers when yours is created?
 
@Neil I certainly hope not, but knowing jQuery that's probably how they do it.
 
That would make sense I suppose. I didn't think they polled the dom continuously, but then, maybe that's the only way to do it for some browsers *cough*IE*cough*
 
Don't rely on my answer alone though, wait for someone more knowledgable than me.
 
Have you checked the source?
 
Yes, I have actually. ready is mentioned 83 times in the code
I spent 5 minutes trying to figure out how it worked and realized it was 5 minutes wasted
 
11:30 AM
jQuery.fn.ready = function( fn ) {
	// Add the callback
	jQuery.ready.promise().done( fn );

	return this;
};
 
It seems that ready is a promise that hinges on load or DOMContentLoaded event
 
@Neil does .ready work on elements?
I was under the impression it's only for document
 
@Mosho I thought it worked for any element (granted, though it may not notify you the very moment that only that particular element is loaded but it may be the whole document)
 
nah, only for document
 
I guess I'll just do that then
 
11:32 AM
if you want a script to fire when an element is ready, put the script right after the element
 
Nah, I don't have a particular reason, and I'm not that masochistic
I'll settle with the onload route
 
Looks like it works for any element
 
dat confirmation bias
I mean, could be, but that doesn't show it
and the docs don't mention it
 
It would seem that ready is called on the document/element in the order in which the event has been registered
 
@Mosho You're assuming it defaults to the doc when a selector other than the doc is there
 
11:37 AM
LOL ^ @SomeGuy check it out. lmao
 
@monners yes
but I mean, I get the exact same result without a selector
so it doesn't prove it fires by element
 
@Mosho It proves what I say it proves!
 
too bold for me, I concede
 
Hmmm. Ok... Lemme try something
 
but the thing is
there is an event that fires when the DOM is ready
on-load or whatever
so I assume that's what jQ uses
but there isn't one for each element
 
11:40 AM
it's misleading that you can attach the event on the element if all it really does is "Did you really mean to assign it to the document? I'll just take care of that for you then"
 
@Mosho jsfiddle.net/f9Tt2/2 Looks like you're right
Wait, does inline JavaScript delay the DOM load?
 
believe so
 
@AbhishekHingnikar They have an entire freakin' meal in their bags
 
put an infinite loop in the <head>
 
meal my as thats almost a week meal
 
11:44 AM
How about that? The DOM ready event fires, then the alert before the HTML is rendered, then the target.ready log
 
@Neil just a method that happens to be accessible from any jQuery object
even the $ object
 
@Mosho There's a term for it, now it doesn't come to mind, when you try to apply an interface to something that doesn't quite suit it
 
@Neil Clusterfuck
 
@Neil a jquery programmer
actually $.ready and $().ready are different
 
@Mosho I thought they were the same
 
11:47 AM
@Mosho But seriously, what do you make of that fiddle? If the event defaults to the document level then shouldn't the target.ready fire before the alert?
 
Hi all! I searched lot for to implement volume slider, most of the references use $(identifier).slider() function. I tried and works fine in demo page. But If I include this in my project, the slider() function is not working. can anyone pls help me... wt can I do?
 
@monners we concluded it makes no difference
so the order would be the order you write them in
 
@Mosho lol, sure, but it's still a fun thought experiment
 
@Illaya I guess you haven't included the plugin in your page?
 
@monners or wait, that's not what you meant
 
11:49 AM
@JanDvorak but all other jquery codings are woking
 
or wait
 
fiddle?
 
Not sure I understand
 
@monners yeah, makes no difference
 
::waits::
 
11:50 AM
The script gets run before the dom is loaded
 
it's as if you did $(document) twice
it dgaf
 
@Neil What we're asking is whether calling .ready on a jQuery selector other than document defaults to document anyway
 
You can add $(document).ready(function() { console.log('DOM ready'); }); after, and it would output DOM ready after
What matters is order that the event has been registered, but the actual event triggering jQuery is the very same
 
By the beard of Zeus, you're right!
 
but I said that :(
 
11:52 AM
You're all right
 
alright then
 
+2 Mosho, +PI Neil
 
@Mosho No, you're all right
Or something
 
You're all right
Emphasis is everything
 
You're all right (what happened to the left side of your body?)
 
11:54 AM
Ok, I'm off to play video games
 
@monners Capitalization is the difference between I helped my uncle Jack off a horse and i helped my uncle jack off a horse.
 
@SecondRikudo commas
 
@KendallFrey There's no place for a comma in that statement
Although a sane person would probably go with "I helped my uncle off a horse"
 

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