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3:00 PM
lightening struck an n64 and they were fused together
 
I did that lol
 
@MadaraUchiha you just pinged your boss... in here?
With us?
 
@SterlingArcher Make me proud
 
@Cereal or wrap it in an async function
 
oh geez
 
3:00 PM
and just make it execute
 
!!tell Madara slidepoop
 
Sorry I was picturing whore island
 
ARE YOU PROUD YET MR KRABS?
 
ZOIDBERG
 
3:01 PM
I have a followup stupid question based on this newfound knowledge
 
do tell
 
no questions are stupid questions
except the stupid ones.. I guess.
 
@rlemon You clearly haven't seen some of my questions
 
@rlemon can I be prargante
 
3:02 PM
May 10 '16 at 15:45, by Sterling Archer
Random question... if you get a vasectomy, do you get to keep the balls?
@rlemon you sure about that?
 
@SterlingArcher yes, because the answer to that is yes
you keep your balls.
 
async componentDidMount() {
  this.setState({
    books: await mahAPI.fetchBooks(),
    authors: await mahAPI.fetchAuthors()
  });
}
You could do this?
 
yes
 
3:03 PM
Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
lol
I think his brain just popped
 
someone's eyes had been opened
 
promises are so much more concise with async/await
 
thats a revelation we just witnessed
 
@SterlingArcher his god
5
 
3:03 PM
@SterlingArcher This question caused me physical pain on many levels.
 
i must have missed that vasectomy question
 
I wish RO's could kicks mods. I'd RO link so fast.
 
would laugh hard
 
@Linkgoron spill the dirt on Madara please
 
Are you ready? Madara is a actually...a weeb!
 
3:05 PM
@SterlingArcher pls no. he was on hangouts once from bed, couldn't see his hands the entire time. I've already been scarred
 
tmi
 
@hilli_micha shh
 
Nice.
 
we carefully ignore it
 
3:06 PM
Right, I have to figure out why this stupid core java emulator won't run all of a sudden
and nobody is here. wunderbar
 
@SterlingArcher turn it off, then back on
 
YOU DONT THINK IVE TRIED THAT
 
no
 
no
 
3:07 PM
It works!
This is amazing!
 
@Cereal weird, I always say that in bed
 
@KamilSolecki You talk to yourself in bed?
 
Hey guys, I have the following code :
background.setAttribute('src', scene.photo);
sceneElement.appendChild(background);
 
@SterlingArcher i.imgur.com/1nnIjxL.gifv it just keeps going :D
 
(ups)
 
3:08 PM
Being a web develop without node and npm is painful :(
 
I talk a lot when Ashley and I are going to sleep because I've chosen that very convenient time to try and talk about our day but she gets super fucking grumpy
 
@rlemon that one is so good
 
!!s/eb/eeb/
 
@Squiggle that’s what you get for working in asp net
 
@rlemon Being a weeb develop without node and npm is painful :( (source)
 
3:08 PM
So I want to know when background is fully loaded (image and html element) is there any way ?
 
@Hayanno onload
image.onload = fn;
image.src = newSrc;
 
@KamilSolecki ...angular and dotnet web API?
 
I love how @Linkgoron completely ignored all of the real discussion about JWT, but chose to answer @SterlingArcher's question :D
@ssube You use JWT in production?
 
@MadaraUchiha in a few places
 
@rlemon so like background.onload for my case ? I don't know on which object I should call onload
 
3:10 PM
Can't even use gulp.
 
@MadaraUchiha passive agressiveness hidden under a point. I like it.
 
@ssube How do you like it?
 
@Hayanno the image.
 
@MadaraUchiha I'm more powerful than you realize
 
you're setting .src so I can assume background is an image.
 
3:10 PM
God I hate everything about gradle
 
so there.
 
inb4 removed from RO
 
I hate everything about java
Spring boot is legitimately magic
 
@MadaraUchiha What's not to like. It's a token that's WAY easier to parse and deal with than saml xml BS.
 
@MadaraUchiha depends on the library. It's pretty simple, if you have a sane session to put in it, it's great. You need a small payload with easily-looked-up data.
 
3:10 PM
And I hate it when things work by magic
 
@rlemon Alright i'll try, ty
 
@MadaraUchiha real talk we use JWT in production
It's quite lovely
 
uid and requested roles are usually enough data
double-check with the backend and go, it's nice and easy
 
@Luggage The normal way to store session is either in-memory server-side, or in some cache (file system, redis, etc) nothing says you have to do it in XML or whatever
 
@SterlingArcher You're quite lovely
 
3:11 PM
@Hayanno you can also preload the images before all of this, then just assume they'll be loaded when you set the src
 
@MadaraUchiha SAML does :)
 
@SterlingArcher Why do you think it's better than regular ol' sessions?
 
@rlemon How would you go about that ? I have no starting point
 
I prefer FRODOL
 
3:12 PM
@MadaraUchiha I've out-sourced the difficult questions to you.
 
if you're using SSO, you have to jump through all their hoops
 
@MadaraUchiha you still need to parse a token if you use SSO. That's what I was talking about. using JWT doesn't mean you no longer have server-side sessions (but it can)
 
@Hayanno there are plenty of articles on preloading images.
 
@Linkgoron ❤️
 
they'll explain it in more detail than I'm willing to.
 
3:12 PM
@Cereal Literally any character was better than frodo.
 
@MadaraUchiha it's small enough that you can send the token with every request, and build a truly stateless REST service
 
@rlemon I'll check this out, if you have any GOOD one, i'll take it
 
@KamilSolecki Really though, almost ruined the whole expedition
 
I do not. just look for ones written in the past two years.
 
Shoulda just given the ring to sam
 
3:13 PM
@SterlingArcher that's one use of JWT.
 
❤️ JWTs
 
According to google JWT also doesn't point to anything on the server
 
@SterlingArcher So statelessness is your primary selling point?
 
session cookies can
 
if you can keep a user's allowed roles in-memory or in-cache, verifying the token should be super fast
 
3:13 PM
@MadaraUchiha my knowledge is limited, but our usecase is statelessness
 
I use JWT in this project. no real good reason why tho. just wanted to get some experience
things would probably actually be a bit easier with sessions :/
 
it can be a single redis list lookup, intersected with the token's role claim
 
redis is so fast
 
AzureAD authentication ith MSAL is a breeze, and that uses JWTs extensively.
 
3:14 PM
Welp, I think that's your answer then @Linkgoron, got anything to add/ask?
 
I wouldn't trust JWT alone unless they were properly re-issued tokens with regularly rolling keys, etc. I use them to get data from the SSO, then use my own sessions after that. JWT is just a container. It can contain a token intended for a single use (a log on) or a token intended to be your 'session'.
 
Did you just outsource your outsourced question @MadaraUchiha
 
^^
 
@ssube it's not the difficulty. The question is why, and do we need to extra complexity.
 
keeping the secret secret is very important
@Linkgoron extra complexity vs what?
 
3:16 PM
but with JWT and some system for revocation, it CAN make a mostly-stateless auth system
 
@Cereal I won't want to export most of those functions
 
@rlemon that judge is easily the coolest dude in the entire justice system
 
@Luggage you mean the difference between access tokens and refresh tokens? Yeah. Gotta be used properly. Long lifetimes of access tokens is a big no-no if they're gonna be cached.
 
@hilli_micha no comment
 
Our tokens expire every 30 minutes with a rolling refresh
 
3:17 PM
@Squiggle yes, that.
 
also, screw this
 
seamless af
 
it's cause of too many bugs
 
@towc no, it's the developer who causes those
 
/me whispers typescript
 
3:18 PM
/me listens
 
@rlemon son of a bitch I thought the Onion was the only cool satire site, I got fake news'd so hard.
 
@hilli_micha 2018 bro, all news is fake
@SterlingArcher @MadaraUchiha @Ikari i.redd.it/jgxjpd50too01.jpg 0w0
 
lol
 
Can we make the 'no jokes' clause of this room a Worldwide Law? Satire News Sites are now officially dangerous
 
3:20 PM
UWU
 
anyone feeling like mentoring me through writing decent code?
I get shat on too often by this chat
 
≫.≪
 
Getting shat on tbh is the best way
 
You just focus on the wrong things @towc
 
@towc well, you do tend to not listen. or at the very least, your arguments appear to indicate that.
 
I think it's mostly because I try to talk to ~5 people at once when I just ask here
 
I like how they emphasize on REAL ROCKET SCIENTISTS
 
Also isn't there a bitter irony in asking someone in this chat to mentor you while also saying that same chat shits on you too much?
 
not kerbel space program!
 
@hilli_micha maybe that's what he needs help on?
 
3:22 PM
but... doesn't playing ksp make you a rocket scientist?
 
yes
 
@hilli_micha is it, though?
 
@GNi33 that was definitely satire
 
how are you so sure?
 
"Del Giudice" literally translates to "judge's"
having a "judge Judge" has to be either a huge coincidence, or satire
 
@GNi33 that's from probably the same company
or I guess it's a common joke
 
or it's a real story
 
that as well?
or all the other pages I find about him?
 
yeah, was looking at other google results
maybe it's real?
 
my goodness. I wasn't posting satire. dude was vaping on the bench.
 
3:28 PM
I honestly can't tell
it's not good satire, if it's satire
 
it's not
 
y'all need cheesus
!!afk
 
I'm literally having an existential crisis over whether or not this judge was vaping right now.
 
so there's a judge Judge. Great
 
I bet there are a few smiths named Smith as well
 
3:29 PM
originally they all were
 
well, the first one at least
 
just a shame that's been lost, or we would all have the same/similar surname
 
@GNi33 hence, all :P
 
or did they really just call everyone of a profession that?
 
I'm this close to saying everyone I know and love is actually a lizard being controlled by Mark Zuckerburg to trick me into some sort of 'Truman Show'-esque life.
 
3:30 PM
this raises question. Did Robert's family evolve from lemons?
 
@ssube Sean Linux
 
they are still lemons
 
no, my native ancestors grew trees
 
@hilli_micha and this is how the cookie crumbles
One of my ancestors built a bridge apparently
 
My ancestors were idiots and liked hills too much
 
3:31 PM
my family got its name because one of my ancestors was bald at one point in his life
 
or lived near a bridge, who knows at this point
 
so unfulfilling
 
bold?
 
My great great great grandpa wrote a book about farming
I still has it
 
@GNi33 fixed
 
3:32 PM
aaah, now it makes more sense :)
 
half of atlantic canada has my last name
 
it's like calling rlemon "Robert Slidepoop" because of that thing he did when he was 13
or "Jordan Fishdropper" because of that thing he did
 
Or towc
4
 
There was a wp on r/writingprompts about that
Was pretty good
 
"Kamil Memeboy"
 
3:34 PM
I love how towc is the equivalent to jQuery at this point..any mention of him gets immediate stars.
4
 
That would be nick
 
yeah, can't think of anything good for you :/
what's a very unfulfilling and accidental thing you've done?
 
he was born in Poland
 
@towc I’m polish
 
that couldn't have possibly been intentional, right?
 
3:36 PM
Damnit
 
He sells lamps on the internet, come on
 
Well, if it keeps the lights on! bah dum tsh
 
Bulboy
 
well, looky there
 
3:42 PM
I could've eaten that raspberry
 
putting it on a lego man doesn't make it bad
you can still eat it
 
I don't know when was the last time it washed its head
or where that person put their lego piece
if they put raspberries on their heads, you can imagine they can be creative
 
so wash the raspberry
you know. like you should be doing anyways
 
not a js question per se
but you know how in chrome debugger you have crossed out css lines?
 
those mean they are not being applied because something else has taken specificity over that rule.
 
3:46 PM
right, so if I just remove those from the CSS file entirely
problems?
 
maybe
.foo {
  color: red;
}
.foo.bar {
  color: blue;
}
if you change the className from 'foo bar' to 'foo' then color: red; applies again
it could be not applied due to a current state or action. removing them blindly is probably going to cause some problems somewhere
 
i figured. worth a shot XD
 
Did we get @MadaraUchiha fired yet? I was battling a stubborn DB
 
so I was looking for dynamic imports... stackoverflow.com/questions/35914712/… one of the answers here says that I can't, and another says that there's a proposal in ecmascript...
 
@SterlingArcher you've got a backlog of memes
@Ikari two years ago
 
3:51 PM
so what's the current status about dynamic imports?
 
@rlemon I have a backlog of bugs to tackle first D:
 
anyone ever use chosen or selec2 plugins for jquery
 
oh man select2 was the shit way back in the day lol
but like.... way back
 
I used that a few years ago
Ohhh no, I used selectize
 
That something like it.
 
3:57 PM
WebEx: "Nothing to install"

Also WebEx: "JUST NEEDS A MO$#)_@#)$ BROWSER EXTENSION"
 
( function f     ()      {undefined = false ; return undefined } () )
undefined
( function f (undefined) {undefined = false ; return undefined } () )
false
( function f   (true)    {  true    = false ; return   true    } () )
(unknown) Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token true
I'm really starting to enjoy this language. It's like Perl but with a sense of humor.
 
I don't see what's funny about that.
 

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