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12:00 AM
lisp, for prototyping things before moving to a real language.
 
12:32 AM
So the best way is to use try catch to catch errors with async wait functions? right?
 
@AbrarAhmed yes, those work well with async/await
 
is that the map mentioned in that video the other day?
 
I think so, I was looking for it
 
12:47 AM
Anyone know if it's possible to import data from a power bi visualisation programmatically to SSRS or create a pdf file from power bi visualisation using R?
 
 
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1:55 AM
!!>/[^0-9]/.test("F");
 
@jAndy true
 
why
 
2:06 AM
The R18 at night in iRacing is like driving a rave with rockets 😍
 
F is not 0-9
 
@MadaraUchiha damn that was hot
I finally got a quintuple tactical visor kill, and it lost POTG to widowmaker getting 1 kill...
I was so mad
 
 
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3:21 AM
@MadaraUchiha damn
@SterlingArcher maybe the widow did some extra assist with her infra sight? The PoTG system can be wonky at times
 
3:44 AM
posted on March 30, 2018 by Myles Borins

Notable Changes No additional commits. Due to incorrect staging of the upgrade to the GCC 4.9.X compiler, the latest releases for PPC little endian were built using GCC 4.9.X instead of GCC 4.8.X. This caused an ABI breakage on PPCLE based environments. This has been fixed in our infrastructure and we are doing this release to ensure that the hosted binaries are adhering to our platform suppor

posted on March 30, 2018 by Myles Borins

Notable Changes No additional commits. Due to incorrect staging of the upgrade to the GCC 4.9.X compiler, the latest releases for PPC little endian were built using GCC 4.9.X instead of GCC 4.8.X. This caused an ABI breakage on PPCLE based environments. This has been fixed in our infrastructure and we are doing this release to ensure that the hosted binaries are adhering to our platform suppor

posted on March 30, 2018 by Myles Borins

Notable Changes No additional commits. Due to incorrect staging of the upgrade to the GCC 4.9.X compiler, the latest releases for PPC little endian were built using GCC 4.9.X instead of GCC 4.8.X. This caused an ABI breakage on PPCLE based environments. This has been fixed in our infrastructure and we are doing this release to ensure that the hosted binaries are adhering to our platform suppor

posted on March 30, 2018 by Myles Borins

Notable Changes No additional commits. Due to incorrect staging of the upgrade to the GCC 4.9.X compiler, the latest releases for PPC little endian were built using GCC 4.9.X instead of GCC 4.8.X. This caused an ABI breakage on PPCLE based environments. This has been fixed in our infrastructure and we are doing this release to ensure that the hosted binaries are adhering to our platform suppor

 
4:22 AM
morning room.
 
no u
 
5:02 AM
ohhi
 
yo
 
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Is there a way to find the div above the span in this?
<body>
<div>
Hello, World!
<span></span>
</div>
</body>
 
Guys, anyone ever worked with react-dnd? I have many dynamically created drop targets, but, mysteriously, 'canDrop' is executed for each currently rendered drop target (and monitor.isOver is always false) when I hover over one of them. Maybe someone has an idea? Hope I dont have to write a wall of code for a github issue...
 
5:29 AM
Hi all
 
5:42 AM
hi
 
5:57 AM
1
Q: Final Value of a Variable in a JavaScript Recursive Function call

techie_28 function even(num) { if (num === 0) { return true; } else { return !even(num - 1); } } console.log(even(1)); //Chrome Console shows num = 1 in return. The Else part of the recursive function even would run till ...

 
6:18 AM
@AmitSingh via javascript? yes: use .parentNode. Via CSS? No
 
@AmitSingh Sure. It's right there. It starts on the 2nd line
You can thank me later
 
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how to learn java script in one day?????????
 
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@CapricaSix ,ohhhhhhhhh ok
 
6:35 AM
@ParaM Here ya go. Apply guide to javascript.
 
Heyo.
 
\o
 
7:16 AM
Four years ago, Meg put a nail on a tree in order to mark her height. If the tree grows 10 inches per year, and currently the nail is 5 inches lower than Meg, how much has Meg grown over these four years?
 
@BadgerCat here, catch some upbeat old school
 
You have a glass of water and an ice cube floating in it. When the ice cube melts, will the water level increase, decrease or remain the same?
that one drove me nuts when I was younger
 
Neil is in nostalgia mode ?
that helps you to use the organ between your ears
 
just found a page with old logic puzzles
 
7:42 AM
four kids are sitting at a table. Each kid has a plate with a spoon right to it in front of him. They are only allowed to eat with the spoon. Everyone is right handed except Marie. She is left handed. Each kid prefers to use their main hand when eating. How did they solve the situation?
(it is something my grandma has taught me)
 
@KarelG the left-handed Marie is forced to use her right hand
 
exactly. She was teaching me some etiquette.
 
hah
 
because I was using the spoon in both my left and right hand. I just swap between them
to stick the finger in my nose :?
she keeps telling that from time to time at family events or when friends visits her
 
not really sure why left-handed people are forced to use their right hands
not clear to me what that has to do with being polite
 
7:51 AM
> etiquette.
if you use a fork, you use it with your left hand. Knife goes in right hand. ect
 
well etiquette is by extension the act of behaving in a certain accepted fashion
to not do so is impolite
so etiquette therefore is politeness through proper action
 
It is annoying for me to see people eating their meal with only a fork in the right hand. The knife is just on the table.
their head is so close to the plate and they just put the food in their mouth like a coal worker is filling a boat steam engine heater with coal
 
I am left handed. I use fork in the left and knife in the right like everybody else, but I will always have a spoon in my left
 
I have the ability to use both hands. Even for hand writing.
I trained my left hand because the mouse is at the right hand. So need to use my left hand instead of only my right hand...
 
I was raised to have the knife in the right hand and the fork in the left while you cut
then you switch the fork to the right hand to get the food and eat it
but in italy, they just leave the fork in the left hand and after cutting, use the left hand to put it in their mouths
makes so much more sense that way
 
8:05 AM
@OliverSalzburg that is a different issue: github.com/krakjoe/cmark-visitors/issues/1
 
@KendallFrey @rlemon @Loktar don't forget to brush your teeth today.
 
oh boy, another data breach: 150 millions accounts from MyFitnessPal app.
 
what was breached?
 
account name, email and hashed pw
 
8:22 AM
@Ikari That guy is the #1 ranked Ana in NA
 
yup, I watch his content some times... dude's got skills
 
8:36 AM
I also got this sweet Pharah PoTG about a minute ago
 
9:09 AM
hey what if you have another element inside a form? forms get validated only if they have inputs but if you place another element within a div they don't. How do you solve this ?
 
9:22 AM
which "element" ?
1
Q: InnerHTML in multiple fiields and more than one error statements

Choc0099I am having trouble trying to get the form to validate using the onblur handler. What I am trying to do is to get the first and last name field to display an error message if the field is blank, if it’s less than 5 , more than 18 characters, or it the user enters a number. I would like to be a...

 
9:44 AM
@KarelG thank you for coming to rescue, I have kind of solved using this
234
A: Submit form using a button outside the <form> tag

OffereinsA solution that works great for me, is still missing here. It requires having a visually hidden <submit> or <input type="submit"> element whithin the <form>, and an associated <label> element outside of it. It would look like this: <form method="get" action="something.php"> <input type="tex...

 
is there an elegant way to delete items from an array in JS? More elegant than having a for loop on the index
I guess you can filter
but it would look messy
actually no
 
well, if you just mean to delete, delete a[i]
 
^
but I guess towc would not want to have an empty slot in his array
 
Well now you want to have your cake and eat it too I suppose
 
10:03 AM
Hoping someone can help me real quick on this. Trying to convert part of an old script to jQuery
Trying to convert This:
 
@Stuart You're in the wrong room to ask that, buddy :D
Kidding mostly, but most programmers in here don't look favorably on using jQuery
 
showthumbBox: function() {
		this.centerDiv(this.thumbBox);
		if(this.enableAnimation) {
			this.currentopacity = .1;
			this.opacitytimer = setInterval("thumbnailviewer.opacityanimation()", 50);
		}
	},
to
 
why do you want to convert javascript to jquery ?
 
	showthumbBox: function() {
		$(this.centerDiv(this.thumbBox))fadeIn();

	},
slow typer
but doesnt work
 
oh you want to use jQuery's animation
 
10:05 AM
+1
 
$(this.centerDiv(this.thumbBox)).fadeIn(); maybe?
missing .
 
This is an ancient script someone wrote to do the same
BOOM
Lemme try. Thx
 
i don't know what centerDiv does though
 
@Neil Im novice and disecting this as a learning example
Im learning JS on the fly
 
Using jQuery for animation is like using a bulldozer to setup dominoes
 
10:09 AM
Hmm so u suggest the script as is is better than chopping off 40 lines w 1 line?
 
It has its advantages, but don't use it unless you're going to use it heavily
 
Ill believe u if true
 
and that's not to say to try to use it heavily, rather the opposite :P
 
Well I already have jQuery on deck (loaded)
 
@Stuart Well if you load jQuery but you're not using it, drop jQuery
no point using it for the express purpose of animation
if it doesn't work, then just figure out what is causing the problem and make a more "modern" solution
But I don't like to tell a fellow programmer how to do his/her job, so it's up to you really
 
10:11 AM
Im using it for other site features too, This is just a bonus being able to replace a homemade animation with an already loaded jQuery single line animation. If you like motorcycles go to root and look around
 
then stick with jQuery
 
I guess we took the long way around
lol
 
And maybe in your next project, consider it a challenge to go without :P
 
lemme try this
 
you'll learn something that way
you can borrow from jQuery too if you want, stealing functions as needed
 
10:12 AM
I like that idea and is how Ive rolled w a lot of things
to get to this point
 
nothing wrong with that
but don't feel like you have to use jQuery to do things or that'll be the only way you know how to do things
makes you "jquery dependent"
 
+1
@Neil I F'ING LOVE YOU
 
@Stuart Oh, well you know I'm married, right? ;)
 
Doesnt seem to animate the way Id like even w 5000 for a time and nothing in console but Ill figure it out
 
good attitude to have
 
10:19 AM
@Neil Oh, and you know im not queer right? (Cant say Gay as I am gay but not queer) ;)
 
if you need help, just ask.
@Stuart yeah, I didn't think you were. I was just messing with ya ;)
 
Gay = Happy
 
nothing wrong with being happy
 
I know, I was messing back w mocking your style
 
oh, then I'm the one who didn't get it :P
 
10:20 AM
Haha No worries
 
10:52 AM
@KamilSolecki ping
 
@Ikari pong, waddup
 
have you ever happen to have used github.com/Yuvaleros/material-ui-dropzone ?
 
Never, what about it though?
 
ERROR in ./node_modules/material-ui-dropzone/src/index.js
Module parse failed: Unexpected token (106:31)
You may need an appropriate loader to handle this file type.
|     }
|
|     handleRequestCloseSnackBar = () => {
|         this.setState({
|             openSnackBar: false,
 
input type number enable e letter
can i disable it ?
 
10:58 AM
update yr node m8
 
am using babel though :B
 
then your preset isn't compiling arrows
 
Wait, is your node outdated nuff to not accept arrow functions?
 
and if your node can't recognize them, you need to update anyway
 
weird I have arrow funcs all over my code though
 
10:59 AM
that's 6 or older, which are no longer supported
in your code. Are you excluding node_modules in babel?
 
>node --version
v9.4.0
@ssube ... yes
 
huh, v9 definitely has arrows
 
Hm. Which character exactly does the error point to
 
is there an actual syntax error in that module?
 
nope, webstorm doesn't show any
 
11:00 AM
Maybe you have an additi Nah bracket and not have a linter?
 
@KamilSolecki gimme a sec..
 
lol, webstorm isn't a good judge
but master doesn't have a syntax error according to babel
 
Hey everyone, I'm thinking about ways to manage dependencies in JS mainly for services like the translation. Is it only me or there isn't much difference between using a fancy dependency injection framework vs const {translate} = window.__services__;
 
@KamilSolecki from these chars = () => {
so... class properties perhaps?
 
@Tomas there's a massive difference. Don't use globals, window does not always exist.
 
11:03 AM
Uh weird
 
that also doesn't cover loading the modules, especially lazy loading
 
What if you do not use an arrow function @Ikari
Will it compile then
 
@Suisse using window is just an example, I could declare something like global which will exist in all environments. Where is the remaining difference?
 
still you said you have them elsewhere
can I seez more code?
 
Yeah, I agree that I wouldn't have lazy loading, but I don't need that, since for example with translation, I will need it in every page anyway
 
11:05 AM
@Tomas you can't always declare something like that. If you look at what webpack emits, it does a lot more than grabbing a global and passing a member.
also, modules/imports have nothing to do with DI/IoC
 
@KamilSolecki yep... pushing the failing build to github in a sec
 
you should be using both for different reasons
 
@Ikari okie dokie
 
Guys
 
@ssube do you know a case where using dependency injection would have any advantages over globals assuming I don't need lazy loading? Globals have a massive advantage of simplicity and easy of use
 
i want to have text box of type number that enable user to enter numbers only
it works but also enable e letter
i am working using angularJs
 
this is the diff for the file I'm trying to import in the module github.com/SaitamaSama/Tungsten/commit/…
 
@Tomas you can't rely on globals existing at all (and they move around between platforms), so those are not a real option. DI has nothing to do with modules, those are different concerns.
You can use modules without DI and vice versa (injecting global libraries)
Ideally you'd use both, modules to split and manage code, DI to use them without introspecting those modules
then a module can be replaced without changing the global everywhere it's used
that is what webpack does, reductio ad absurdum
 
Yeah, I know what modules are and I'm using them in a standard way. but let's say I need a singleton to be accessible everywhere in the application and I don't want to pass it around 20 levels deep, I'd need dependency injection or globals which seems the same to me, except not being able to do lazy loading on globals.

Regarding not being able to rely on globals: why is that? If I move to a different platform, I tweak my setup of globals and I'm good to go. Realistically I'm only using browser and might need node someday, which both support globals I believe
 
11:13 AM
@Tomas You can use singletons without relying on globals
 
why are you injecting singletons? DI exists to make those obsolete
 
@Neil how do you do it without having to pass them 20levels deep?
 
what DI library are you using and how?
most of them are decorator-based and don't require you to pass anything
 
@Tomas DI
that's why dependency injection exists
otherwise it would be ugly
 
import {Foo} from 'foo-lib';

@Inject(Foo)
class FooUser {
  constructor(foo) {
    ...
  }
}
 
11:15 AM
@Ikari previous version send message had a bracket that doesn't seem to have been deleted?
 
@Neil my proposal is that DI is too complex and global variable object containing services is more simple and does the same thing
 
that should be all you need to do, unless your DI lib is incredibly bad
 
closing one
 
@Tomas ok, but globals are bad for a number of reasons
 
which line? linky?
 
11:16 AM
@Ikari moment, am on phone
 
It fixes your issue and it may be simple, but you introduce other problems pertaining with the usage of globals
 
@Tomas too complex how? They're a similar amount of code, similar patterns, DI just lets you replace parts individually
 
oh, np
 
@Neil generally globals are bad, but I don't see how having a single global to hold services is any worse than DI. I actually think it's better since you have no 3rd party deps and it's very simple
 
@Tomas How is DI complicating your program to the point of being hard to understand?
 
11:18 AM
what DI library are you using?
 
once you know how it works, it's fairly straightforward
a global variable is a lazy approach to the problem
granted, if you just use the one global variable, it's not a big deal, but it still stinks
 
@ssube I've checked your example and I don't think I get it. Could you write it in plain ES5?
@ssube I'm not using any DI library, I'm only considering if it's worth using any at all
@Neil if you need to debug it, you'd thank a global variable ;D
 
const FooUser = Inject(function FooConstructor(foo) { ... }, require('foo-lib').Foo); I think
@Tomas debugging from a CI container is much easier
the complexity depends on the library you use, and most are very straight forward
 
פסח שמח @Zirak @Mosho @MadaraUchiha @Linkgoron @Neal @AsafFisher @RoyiNamir @anyone else I missed
 
Sup guys, chancing my arm looking for a specific bit of knowledge: If using, say, Chrome for Android, and the browser is sent to the background (i.e. a different app is in focus), what is the behaviour of open websockets? Are they kept alive, or do they drop connection / timeout?
 
11:26 AM
afaik the connection is closed from the client side after it stays in background for some span of time
 
@RichardDunn You should definitely check if the connection is up
 
@Neil You're right, I'm best to do some testing myself...
 
@RichardDunn You can fake a connection timeout by simply closing the connection after each request
 
@Ikari I will need to get to the pc before I can look at this well
which will be in 15 mins
 
no problems ;)
 
11:29 AM
Thanks! I have everything in place actually, probs only take a few min to test..
 
@ikari btw, you don't need to pass your old state to setstate if you arent changing them
Just pass the things you want to change
 
so, I can just do this.setState({foo: bar}) rather than this.setState(prevState => ({...prevState, foo: bar}) if I have other state props than just foo?
 
oooh, nice!
 
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11:38 AM
I think I probably won't use this plugin... seems too tightly coupled to me... can't update the dialog content after a single upload
think I'll probably make my own
(with blackjack and hookers)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Thank you and replying/forwarding to all with same blessing :)
 
global.__services__ = {};

getTranslations('english').then((translatons) => {
    global.__services__['translate'] = (word) => translatons[word]

    runApp();
})

function runApp() {
    const { translate } = global.__services__;
    console.log(translate('Hello'));
}
@ssube how do you like my implementation of DI? :D Could you try to show a simple example of how my global translation service could look using actual DI?
 
Why are you creating a global variable? I haven’t had to do that in years
 
@ndugger I claim that dependency injection is simpler by using a single global to hold all the services
 
Put it in a module and import it
 
11:46 AM
Aren't modules static?
I need state here
 
Modules are cached, so no
You can maintain state in a module
Don’t play with globals
 
0
Q: Angular: Running Scripts within iFrame

chirag shahI get HTML as string as API response. The HTML contains few internal script tags which has functions called under $(window).load(). How do I load this HTML in my angular app. I tried appending HTML string response to iFrame body. The HTML loads but the script tags aren't executed as window.load ...

 
Only you can prevent garbage fires
 
@ndugger That's an interesting idea to maintain state in a module, does that work ok with node? I guess you must handle cleaning the cache when needed by yourself then?
 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49573829/angular-running-scripts-within-iframe

Can someone here help me?
 
11:49 AM
It works across the board with all popular module implementations, including node
 
@Neil @Ikari Funny behaviour re: websockets, losing app focus does not affect the connection on Chrome/Android. Locking the phone causes dropouts but then connection resumes a few seconds later, then drops, then resumes, etc. This I imagine is Android saving power and caching outgoing requests. I'd speculate that if I wait long enough dropouts will become progressively longer. fyi...
*And yes, the last disconnect has finally not reconnected.
Which amounts to ~5 min of power-saving behaviour, if my guess is correct.
 
@ndugger thanks a lot for suggesting to store state in a module, somehow I didn't think of that. It seems like an awesome approach for services which require to load some state like translations.
 
@KendallFrey proof that I contribute to the room
 
nice
 
Don’t be so salty towards me
 
11:56 AM
I'm not
 
You were before
 
I was
 
I’m not so bad; just let me into your heart
 
My shower thought of the day: the reason why people are salty is because if you're salty, you're not sweet
 
@ndugger go away jesus
 
11:58 AM
I meant pants
 
Are there any advantages to using dependency injection vs stateful modules?
(for services)
 
I personally am not a big fan of DI
 
@ndugger Well are you a fan of using global variables?
 
I'm not either. That's why I was trying to rather use a global variable for stateful services than DI
 
Because this guy thinks that's the go-to solution for him. Convince him otherwise
 
12:04 PM
@Neil On the contrary, I think DI sucks, and am wondering if I'm missing something
 
That "global variable for stateful" services is a service locator, one of the many dependency containers (DI being a closely related one)
 
What kinda state are you talking here, front-end only state, or state that reflects what's in the DB?
 
you're not escaping DI, you're just making it a singleton, then doing it by hand
why add that pain?
 
@RichardDunn let's say a key value pair of translations which is read only on the client side, but originates from the DB
 
Okay, effectively front-end really then... nm, carry on!
 
12:10 PM
@ssube it's not that hard to add an import. What you get is being able to statically analyze dependencies, validate that the file exists on build, go to definition easily
Also I don't need to think about adding a dependency and take a risk of it not working as expected
 
you "get" those? any DI library requires an import (which validates the file and provides SA), and using that import works with go-to
the difference is DI gives you some @Inject(Foo) class Bar decorator, rather than manually going out and foo = serviceProvider.get(service) every time
 
So if DI requires an import, why would you use DI then instead of a singleton which takes one import as well?
 
because you don't have to go look up every dependency every time, you declare that they're used
you're just replacing a bunch of error-prone manual imperative code with a declarative decorator
 
How about doing export service and import service so you don't have to do lookups as well?
 
Service Locator as a pattern is generally frowned upon, but there is less reasons for it than people cry about. Generally speaking, it sometimes might be tricky not to mess up your tests whenever you want to extend its capabilities
 
12:13 PM
since when is a service locator bad?
 
It has been considered an anti pattern for a long while
 
it's still very popular with distributed systems, plugins and other overly dynamic loaders
service locators play well with DI, it's not either/or
I would bet money that Guice and every other major DI library also acts as a service locator, in fact
 
In a way, but I bet they stay away from making it the ultimate god object, which is a trap some people fall into when writing one
 
that is very true
it's a fall back, if dependencies were not passed/injected, there should be a way to discover them
the real concrete benefit of injecting/passing/providing dependencies is that, in tests or a limited env like node without a DOM, a worker without window, etc, you can pass the service you want used
if you have a singleton of services, you can't do that per-test
there's always a bit of code that creates the container, but after that, you're a container running in a container on a container selling containers
 
yo dawg
I heard you like using containers, so I made a container running in a container on a container selling containers
 
12:23 PM
@ssube I guess you could replace singleton imports with stubs before running tests
 
s/stub/container/ and you have DI :P
 
Probably, but I prefer combining multiple simpler solutions in favor of one which is more complex
Until that's too painful and I realize that I really need a more complex solution. Which is not the case most of the time
 
one complex solution?
looking up the service each time is duplication
it's more complex, more to write, and more to debug
 
ferrofluid inside of a rotating magnetic field
 
@ssube Most of the time duplication is more to write indeed, but the complexity is lower and it's easier to debug
 
12:30 PM
@rlemon it's fucking magic
 
black magic
 
reminds me of cells
 
@ssube thanks for the discussion, it was very useful to hear multiple ideas :)
 
np
 
morning
 
12:38 PM
Holla
Two questions
Is this similar ?
args        = require('yargs').argv;
import {argv as args} from 'yargs'
And how would you do something like this with import ?
var plugins = require('gulp-load-plugins')({
        pattern:       ['gulp-*', 'gulp.*'],
        replaceString: /\bgulp[\-.]/
    }),
 
in two lines
import pluginProvider from '...';
const plugins = pluginProvider({...});
 
OK, I have this girl in my office, she is a fresh graduate, she doesn't have much interest in backend. So, someone suggested to her to go for wordpress. And I would like to get her out of this career blackhole. So, I want to ask, is there a way I can get her to take more interest in some frontend frameworks instead e.g. vue, react or angualr? Any kind of interesting resource is welcome.
 
'Right
And as for my first question :D (ty for the second by the way :) )
 
depends on how the export is done I think
export argv;
//
import { argv } from 'argv';
 
@mega6382 I'd say anything about Vue is sexy anyway so let her just try the doc :)
Oki doki @rlemon ty for the answers :)
 
:ok-hand:
 
12:55 PM
doki doki literature club?
 
s/oki/iddly/
 

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