« first day (1850 days earlier)      last day (3315 days later) » 

21:00
@KendallFrey huh?
@SterlingArcher That should get you the fan.
@Loktar I like all of those things. Especially the peanut butter.
@ssube are you serious..?
hahaha
@SterlingArcher no
21:00
@SterlingArcher What do you plan to do with a <$1000 PC?
@SterlingArcher should be easy
watch porn?
.. How much does it cost to build a decent computer than can play any game decently
do you need a monitor?
@SterlingArcher 1k is plenty
if you're including a monitor in that, that gives you 800-ish to work with
I would need a monitor, but I'd get that external or simply use my TV
21:01
I'd say $2k
@Loktar Not if you're planning to buy a graphics card
2k wtf?
you're insane
for dual gpus
water cooled cpu
my last machine cost closer to $3k, but that was... 4 years ago
$2k for a porn subscription?
21:01
said play any game decently :)
@KendallFrey $150 will get you a card that can play anything reasonably
Is.. is semen cooled CPU a thing?
the best hardware they sold at the time
@SterlingArcher Make it so, ensign
7970GHz a few months after it came out
21:02
probably closer to 1.5k vs 1k
You were cyber bullied... — rene 7 mins ago
any decent video card is going to be $300-400
@Loktar really...
user1596138
@KendallFrey You're crazy?
plus 800watt or so power supply
user1596138
21:02
Stop this nonsense lol
@KendallFrey more like $200
@jumpstracks LOL
user1596138
You can build a badass PC for $1000
@jumpstracks you only need an 800 watt psu if you're running sli, or AMD.
Cheapest card that supports Rift is >$400
user1596138
A GTX970 is only $310
21:03
last I checked
@KendallFrey a 290 is not > $400.
user1596138
@KendallFrey Bullshit
Da fuq I'm not buying a Rift
I just wanna play indie steam games
user1596138
@SterlingArcher yes you are!
280x is $200 and runs everything fine.
21:03
indie games are bad
Two of my kids PC's have 280x in them, run at 1080 great.
@Loktar You're not talking preview builds, right?
How the hell am I supposed to run AaaaaAAAaAaAAaaHHHhhhHHHHhhhHh A Reckless Regard for Gravity with a Rift
RIDDLE ME THAT
@KendallFrey what do you mean preview builds?
@SterlingArcher actually that supports the rift :p
@loktar sli?
21:04
Like the rifts you have now
@jumpstracks SLI isn't needed.
@SterlingArcher you don't want to do that, you'll get so sick
Are you serious? lol that's like seizureville population me
@loktar what is sli?
I run crossfire 290x's, and its overkill if you're on 1080 (I'm on 1440)
@jumpstracks 2+ nvidia cards
crossfire is 2+ amd cards
21:05
ah, I run 3 cards, but not connected
Eugh, you guys are reminding me that I need to find a new graphics card...
well my son does...
?
3 cards not connected what?
I sometimes get to use it
i think my nvidia card died. i get green bars and no booty.
i might try baking it
21:05
only time you run video cards not connected is < 2002
lmao remember when it died?
I was gonna get a really nice computer this christmas (gift to myself), but I'm gonna keep that money and visit Norway instead; a much better investment if you ask me
you're supposed to get booty from a GPU?
who, me?
why did no one tell me
21:06
when you had a dedicated 2d and dedicated 3d accelerator.
@loktar ah no idea, I thought I had to have the cross fire for that support, he has multiple monitors for flight sim
@jumpstracks depends on your card and the manufacturer.
looking at newegg, GPUs are still running $250-300
Jesus needs to invent 4 more hours in the day that every human must spend on hobbies. No chores, no work.
$150 for a PSU, $100 for a case
plus at least $300 for the CPU
21:06
@ssube those are insane prices
$200 of memory
Think of all the cool collab projects that could happen with 4 hours of work
user1596138
So, $200 for a GTX 960, $120 for a Corsair 850W PSU, $150 for a big SSD, $100 for cheap case, $3-400 for motherboard if you're fancy.
@SterlingArcher i have that and waste it in here.
have you never had a budget?
300 for a CPU lol wth man
21:07
My budget is intense right now
no budget for pc hardware
@Loktar that's a pretty good price for a proc
@Jhawins 960 needs like a 600watt psu
user1596138
Yeah you come in right at about $1K for something nice
so you can shave money off there
user1596138
21:07
@Loktar I was going overkill for future expandability
My budget was $1500 (for the entire rig, minus the monitor(s)) until I decided to keep the money
@ssube you must only be looking at intel
What I imagine happened to @rlemon
user1596138
Dat CPU
Total Monthly Expenses $3,431
What the fuck happened to my life
21:08
@Loktar then it'd be like $500
i7 is overkill for gaming
@Nick lmao wow
@ssube 9590 is what like $220
@Nick dither some moar pls
user1596138
21:09
^ All of $300 for a badass CPU lol
@Loktar do u even KSP bro
@Loktar $240 bare box
Have video cards changed adapters much in the last 5 years or so, or are they still the same PCIe?
although good news is they're moving to multithreading
Heey
21:09
@Retsam They're PCIe.
I've reached my 500th steam game with Fallout 4
I bet there are some sweet gaming rigs on CraigsList for cheap too
they need single core monster cpus for the games that don't use threading (a lot of them)
Cool; so I should be able to replace my video card without having to replace my old mobo, too.
21:10
there are so many sub 1k builds man
@Luggage threading in games is still so bad
don't let these people scare you
@Loktar where's that page that shows you what to get for each budget level?
@ssube bad as in "they don't do it enough" or "threads are problematic in games"?
I can 4K game from my rpi2 right?
@Luggage they don't do it
@Cereal grats
ahh, well, I argue the second point. threads can be a problem.
user1596138
21:11
@SterlingArcher I'm on @Loktars side (and not just because he's across a cubicle wall from me) lol. $1K you can make something actually really nice. You're not going to be playing in 4K or anything but you can make something very very capable. I keep thinking about ordering all my shit for one but am trying to be careful with money for now
^ even has a 390 which is crazy for 1080
My problem with building PCs is that I want the best, and the best is expensive
has almost no power, meh video cards
awful mobo and 16GB of mem?
850w is fine for 980tis
they are great when it comes to power consumption
only reason I run 1000w is due to crossfiring 2 amd cards
21:13
Maybe I'll go cheaper then. I have my sexboxOne, and I'll only use it for indie steam games which don't require lots of graphics, and it'll be primarily for coding anyways
16gb of mem is perfect for gaming, some say still overkill
Steam chugging at 12MB/s. Killing all my other internet usage
@Loktar arkham knight needs 12 for max settings
99
Q: Can there be legitimate serial downvoting?

Sterling ArcherIf you stumble across a user whose answers and questions are just terrible, is it okay to downvote and vote to close as needed, or is that crossing the line of serial downvoting? It's nothing personal -- you don't even know this person -- but everything they post is just god-awful and unhelpful.

So we're getting there
@SterlingArcher for coding, you want to go high-mem/many-core/meh-video
21:13
Can I be a whore and ask somebody to give me my gold meta badge? :D
which is where you suck power
@Cereal Arkham Knight is a terrible game to use as a benchmark, since it is (at least was) such a terrible port.
Yeah, big ram is required for me with a good processor
^ what @Retsam said
@Retsam It's not so much of a benchmark as an "It exists"
21:14
i7/32GB is about the minimum for dev work
yay ty <3 gold badge here I come
omg @ssube I cant disagree with you more today :p
@Loktar my laptop runs OOM pretty often with 24GB
you sound like the console players who don't get into PCs because its too much money.
@Loktar please, tell me
21:15
@ssube Wat? 32GB RAM "minimum for dev work"?
I have a dual core, 6gb dev machine
how bad did he fuck up ^^
@Loktar My last build was $3k-3500 and custom loop liquid. I ain't no console noob. :P
@rlemon lol depends on the service
I built my pc in 2012 for < $1200 (no monitor) and it's still plenty fast enough. It's much easier to 'keep up' now, I think.
Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.4GHz
16 gb ram
21:15
lol true, nodejs is not ram intensive at all. But Chrome is for sure.
@ssube well you have no perception of reality when it comes to actually budgeting a build for gaming :p
as someone who has 4 kids and all of us have PCs its something I get to do every couple of years.
@Loktar No. That's correct. I save for a year or so and buy a top end box, every 5-10 years.
My PC is so frankenstined it's awesome
I buy every 24 months for myself
@Loktar did you read that greentext?
21:16
@KendallFrey no?
I'd rather max it out so I don't have to upgrade for a while, cause I always get bored of video games.
oldest part in there is probably the case but that doesn't count. I'd say one of the HDDs, which I bought Jr. year of HS
That doesn't count HDDs, which I replace every 6-8 months thanks to bass.
i run 8gb for dev on my laptop, it's fine (i don't use vms, so that saves a lot)
21:18
LOL @KendallFrey!
16 would give me the room to do that, though. noneed for 32 here
I have 32... and thats only because I run a ramdrive for games once in a while
@KendallFrey I.. don't get it
I think I read that wrong
I run at least one VM and frequently a couple Java servers to test config changes locally, so I max out the 16GB VM all the time.
desktop is 16gb and a fast-ass ssd
ahh. Java. :)
21:18
Our build cluster is 230GB and the smallest agents are 8GB...
@Loktar How is that, anyway?
He installed PS4 on shit netbook?
@ssube Bass? As in the sound?
the servers are 2/4/8, but more than two and you're OOM
@Cereal ffffaaasst :p
21:19
8GB isn't enough for Visual Studio and a browser
@SomeKittens Yes.
@SterlingArcher yep
all the vibrations ruining your fun?
loading is almost nonexistant lol
I burn HDDs pretty quick thanks to subs.
21:19
@Loktar O.o That'd be neat
Wonder what game would benefit the most
@SomeKittens quite the opposite, if you get my drift
see there's these SSD things...
12TB of SSD is pricy :\
actually, counting the other drives in my house, more like 20TB
@SomeKittens yeah, not about to spend $3500 on storage when I can just spend $100 every year
@KendallFrey do you get my Tokyo Drift?
21:24
Cyber bullying is real. I can prove it. You're a dickhead. — Will 4 mins ago
!!youtube au5 snowblind
the vocals on that song are great
I can sing better
@KendallFrey this is the wildest hygienic disaster story I've ever read
21:27
@Nick prove it
make me
@AwalGarg looks like the party's over
@Nick I... how?
your mum
Never go in against a Nick when singing is on the line
just kidding
my singing voice sucks
I sing in my car on the way to work when nobody can tell me to shutup
@Nick I'm gonna drive up and down 35-E yelling at people to shut up and hope one is you
21:31
look for a gray honda fit
it might be
I still have Texas plates
Mmm, nothing like spending most of an hour resolving merge conflicts.
wait too long to merge?
not a problem because I go 0-100 real quick
30 seconds and I'm gone
21:33
goodbye love
@Luggage No; it's a "development branch based on another development branch" scenario, unfortunately.
user1596138
My goto for crazy merge conflicts is patches and git apply --3way lol
user1596138
@Retsam ^ FYI, usually comes in handy with "feature" branches
I did it as a rebase; it's much easier to resolve conflicts commit-by-commit, rather than getting 40 commits worth of conflicts at once.
user1596138
21:37
Bleh
user1596138
Depends
This isn't the first painful merge in the project; the last one had to be done by cherry-picking individual commits (basically a manual rebase) so that I could pass the project off to my coworker whenever I hit a merge that he had to resolve for me.
user1596138
It always depends lol
merge from master (or whatever) now and then so there isn't much left to merge at the end.
you should be able to keep two concurrent branches indefinitely.
21:39
All of my merge conflicts were due to changes in the last couple days (ignoring the weekend)
The parent branch got PR'd and made a bunch of changes all at once.
!!xkcd na
21:43
@rlemon is this a film thing?
@SterlingArcher aaaaaand single
After a party one night, a friend of mine decided to sleep in my bed. Rather than hitting on me or anything, she decided to start talking about video games at 5am. I promptly rolled over and fell asleep.
omg lady friend responded to my question with "Little column A, little column B."
What a keeper!
21:49
The next day, everybody was like "ooh, what you guys get up to?" and I explained that she started discussing fallout 3 mods in depth and I fucked right off.
omg lol
#AboutToBeRekt
I bet the horse is like two feet away from the kid
@KendallFrey looks in front
@rlemon loooool
21:50
nooooop
Uhh help
My ram is maxed, but no processors are reporting using > 250mb
Max = 8gb
top
windows
21:54
turn it around and back before with
@rlemon His sister's ecstatic
@Cereal Win+R resmon
@Zirak take your lute and run for Mod
If you have sysinternals in your path (if not, add them!) procexp
Reboot
@SterlingArcher It's not a lute you luddite
21:56
Ukulele whatever
For someone who's a figment of my imagination you're out of touch with the rest of me
You.. you want me to touch you?
I'm not sure what Luddites believe, but Lutites think God is round and kind of twangy.
S...s...senpai?
21:59
I googled "fig mint of my imagination" hoping to be clever, but all I found was messy black anal
(pretty sfw)
hey look, a dangerous link I wont be clicking :D
You had me at anal.
Trust me, you'll laugh more if you do
It may be sfw, but it ain't pretty
22:01
oh god, I ruined this vm
it won't even boot now
what vms are for
protip: when writing puppet scripts, don't get one to run chown with the current user and no path
bad things happen
it... broke the ownership on... everything in the path. maybe?
@KendallFrey need to get some privkeys off :\
@Cerbrus Chat doesn't handle multiline messages properly
Nothing in resmon
crl
crl
if I have an array of booleans or functions that return booleans, how can I || (or) them?
22:03
Chrome crashed right after I send that
Everything crashed, memory still maxed
@crl any/all/every sorta things
crl
crl
yeah, that, thanky
is tryi to restart no
@FlorianMargaine Huzzah! gluck
@Cereal You saying you have memory in use that can't be traced to a process?
22:05
@KendallFrey Oui
Maybe it's Windoze and you should just reboot
Hey have any of you guys tried scambaiting those Windows Support guys?
I want to try it
@KendallFrey Ars had an article about doing that in a VM
obviously in a VM :)
My plan is to theme Ubuntu to look like Windows
22:08
@copy Just rebooted
If they ever get into it, they'll be confused
2.7gb in use after restart ._.
@Cereal That's par for the course for me
better than par, I'd say
set up a win machine but firewall it well
22:08
@KendallFrey Seems like a lot
@SterlingArcher Unpinned the Benjamin for mod message; it's the last thing he wants.
I didn't pin it lol
22:21
@Zirak @SterlingArcher
Can anyone point me to some good examples (GitHub projects or tutorials) of a Javascript build process with Grunt or Gulp? Primarily interested in combining modules into a single dist file. I'm not familiar with require.js or Browserify or anything like that, but I'm willing to learn the syntax if I can just see a complete build process that makes sense.
had never thought about this: nngroup.com/articles/flat-design-long-exposure flat design is pretty much turning the users into mad clickers
@towc I ranted about flat designs and the tendency to flatness several times before. As always, I urge you to read these posts (and their follow ups) by Eli Schiff: elischiff.com/blog/2015/4/7/… , elischiff.com/blog/2015/2/18/… and a little less related but very interesting: elischiff.com/blog/2015/3/4/…
I always thought flat designs were perfect. My childhood innocency really is gone
Then you didn't invest a lot of time trying to criticise them because there's so much to hate
Sorry, hate is emotional, "disagree" is better
22:32
uhhmmmkay
so what is the least criticizable thing in your opinion?
Whadya mean? You're asking what practice I agree with?
yeah
Learn about UI and UX or hire a designer
Nothing can replace that.
@Claies "literally every" is a pretty indefensible stance to take.
You don't code in Dreamweaver just as you don't design by putting a flatness-level-4 class on an element
22:34
but the second takes money, and I guess I'm already doing the first one :P In a very, very slow way
and most popular designs seem to be flat today anyway
That's not an argument for these designs, that's an argument of practicality and laziness
so a designer would do the same, and most guidelines would hint towards flat anyway, as said in the articles you sent me
@Zirak ok, fair enough
Of course doing things right takes time and money.
@towc Read them a bit more in-depth. It was surprising (at least to me) to hear about this story from the designer's perspective.
The most common problem with skeuomorphism and flat design is people take them to the absolute extremes. Hyper-realistic or so minimal you can't even tell what's a button.
@MadaraUchiha sniff their butts for me
22:39
@shshaw Another pain point is this flat expanse of sameness. What's the difference between the thousands of chat apps that crop up now-a-days? Can you tell one landing page from another? What sets you apart from your competitors?
Familiarity is good, being identical to your competitor is not
@Zirak Indeed. Flat design tends to take away personality.
And it also tends to be masturbatory
(much like this conversation)
Any conflicting opinions are more than welcome, this is a conversation I'd love to have
Most people just swallow these concepts without considering the downsides and drawbacks.
here I assumed that gawk would be the default. Debian comes with mawk and OSX comes with nawk.
22:44
FootLinux comes with SAWK
and ubuntu has gawk.
Everyone does it their own way. That way no one is happy.
Survival of the fittest...or something.
well, I'm going with gawk. I assume I'll aways have that as an option, if not default
Why are you using awk anyway? If you're doing something overly complex with it that may cause cross-compat issues, you might as well do it in an actual language
Just a regex in RS and FS is the only non-nawk feature I use
I'm using it to massage an export from MS Access before importing into Postgres.
22:48
pats you on the back It'll be okay
It's cool. I'm already done.
is there any value is sticking to sh-compatible features in a shell script or can I just go crazy with all the bash extras?
dolphin?
is that a valid js identifier?
let 🍓= tasty;
hi, i have a problem with post request in angular
@PedroMiguelPimientaMorales Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
22:55
let hello = { "🐬": 'hi' }
:(
let message = { "🐬": 'so long and thanks for all the fish' };

« first day (1850 days earlier)      last day (3315 days later) »