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4:00 PM
If you're going down that path, then decide and give us a working solution in the documentation
 
@CatPlusPlus You should be able to set up a different toolchain in the CDT preferences, yes
 
Serious business developers reduced to lil' helpless kittens when it comes to non-standard IDE settings.
 
"Gimme my VS!"
 
@Collin I am kind of trying.
@CatPlusPlus Well, if you just search for it, it does not exactly have a page saying "THIS IS HOW TO DO THIS SHIT".
 
My co-worker has got some stuff set up in Eclipse that will ssh to a build server, run the build command there and parse the error output into the IDE, a different compiler is certainly possible...
 
4:02 PM
@DeadMG It's annoying isn't it ? I've always had the comfort of pressing F5 in VS :D
 
@Collin That might be just distcc.
Okay, let me find that CDT thing.
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, no this is for compiling for a nios2 softcore, we have a build server set up
 
what is that GCC macro for the GCC version?
I want to make sure it's absolutely correct
 
__GNUC__
That's major version, there's also __GNUC_MINOR__.
 
Just run $ cc -v.
 
4:06 PM
You're kind of missing the point.
 
the point is, this shit sucks
 
I'm downloading CDT.
 
What's all this then?
 
If I'll set it up in less than 15 minutes then you get the trout treatment.
 
4:07 PM
@DomagojPandža dat the logo?
 
NO :Đ
It took 5 seconds and I made a booboo typo.
 
@Pubby This is the shattering news that it's practically impossible to find an IDE for Windows that works with GCC.
 
I made a logo yesterday and posted it in the lounge, but it was kinda fucked up.
 
@Pubby Game idea, infant stages
 
@DomagojPandža // Project doomed, developers couldn't set up the IDE.
 
4:08 PM
So, where the FUCK can i change the compiler in eclipse?! :D :D
 
@DeadMG Code Blocks with MinGW works
 
There's only a fucking dropbox hardwired to GCC 4.5
 
@ScarletAmaranth The exact question I had.
 
Okay, I've got CDT.
 
@Pubby we have a new leader!
 
4:09 PM
I have to go now, take care of some RL matters. Please, do agree on something by the time I get back.
 
Show us the path, Pubby!
 
Ok, first drink this kool aid
 
Then admire me.
Then profit!
 
right
I fixed Code::Blocks
that was a lot easier than Eclipse
what was the GCC minor version macro again?
 
__GNUC_MINOR__
 
4:13 PM
@DeadMG Code blocks works with that shit ?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah. Turns out that Rubenvb's build of MinGW simply has some changed filenames. Once I changed them in Code::Blocks, it seems to be fine with it.
@RadekSlupik Builds but I got no output?
 
@DeadMG Where did you get Rubenvb's distribution again ?
 
I rarely use GCC and never Code::Blocks, so I don't know. Cat Plus Plus said that.
10 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
That's major version, there's also __GNUC_MINOR__.
 
nm got it
so I now have Code::Blocks and GCC 4.7
it's hardly VS in terms of Intellisense and stuff... but it'll do
 
Lol, it looks like CDT requires you to write a plugin to define custom toolchain.
Oh, Eclipse, you so crappy.
 
4:16 PM
This is the logo I made, by the way. I guess only the puppy's seen it.
 
the other one was better, imo
 
Is there someplace where I can read wtf this is about
 
For our lovely current situation.
 
4:17 PM
@Pubby An RTS. In SPACE.
 
And broken IDEs, i still haven't got one working, hold on :D
 
@CatPlusPlus Outer space or planetary space?
 
I'm so happy that I don't use IDEs.
 
OUTER SPACELICIOUS.
 
@Pubby Outer space with pew pewing ships.
 
4:18 PM
And it's on a 2d plane? With 3d graphics?
 
@Pubby No.
 
The plane is variable.
 
I don't know about any planes. I know there are ships.
 
FULL 3D SEX
projected humbly on your 2D displays.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Code::Blocks is pretty easy to reconfigure to use Rubevb's build of mingw
 
4:19 PM
I mean the ships move in all 3 dimensions?
 
In all 3 dimensions, yes.
 
although I have no idea how to debug effectively, since I've heard that GDB is cock
 
DOUBLE KILL, I know.
 
IDE should have a visual frontend.
 
4:20 PM
or set the target settings like optimizations, x64 or x86 targets, etc.
 
@Pubby Joking aside, the intersection plane can be modified in height, so ships can be anywhere.
 
Also, I'm for having only one build system, with common settings.
Then IDE projects should just call the build system.
 
make works with anything
 
make > all the other tools
It just damn works, no hassle.
 
Lol.
You've never done non-trivial build with make.
 
user784668
4:22 PM
@RadekSlupik Except that there are many makes.
 
user784668
And GNU make sucks.
 
get your stories straight by the time I get back, then we might get some work done before... I don't know, 2013?
 
I'm going to go eat something
forgot I didn't eat breakfast so quite hungry
 
Well, code::cocks is fucking trash compared to Visual Studio ...
 
(good compiler && shitface IDE) || (shitface compiler && good IDE)
 
4:24 PM
I like good IDEs ... :-/
@DeadMG Also, that wouldn't get parsed well.
@DeadMG Oh, now it would :P
 
I'll do a basic SConstruct.
 
We are using SCons?
 
I'm in charge of the build system, because you all suck at this. SCons can generate VS projects that call SCons which calls GCC.
 
Well if it works I don't care what we use
 
@CatPlusPlus That sounds like fun, actually. Do the VS projects which call SCons which call GCC respect the settings set in those projects? :P
 
4:26 PM
All settings are set via SCons.
 
ok
 
@DeadMG What did you set up for the linker ? (There are some weird file names.)
 
one of these days, I'mma implement Wide and it's not gonna have these problems
@ScarletAmaranth Mostly, just strip mingw- from the front of the executable name if it has it.
 
@DeadMG ta
 
Also, when you fork repos, fork it into team account.
Unless you don't want that system, I don't remember if there was a definite decision.
IMO that's the best way to deal with it.
 
4:30 PM
Can you give me any code sample that works only with 4.7+ ?
(As short as fucking possible.)
 
using T = int;
 
Template aliasss, great, I've never even used that shit :-/ (I blame microsoft for my incompetence! :))
 
Also, maybe design doc would be better as BB wiki?
 
Google Docs too
 
It's already on GD.
 
4:36 PM
Oh, where's the link?
 
Also, anyone with possible OSX and Windows build slaves?
Well, OSX the most important, I could do cross-build from Linux to Windows.
@Pubby @thecoshman would have to give you access.
 
Alright, anyway I can maybe help with the art
 
@CatPlusPlus So, how can I get my tortoiseHg to work with our team repo if that's even it's purpose :) ? (Sorry, my version control is " multiple files on my local HDD " :))
 
TortoiseHg is just a GUI for Mercurial. Clone the repo, then right-click in Explorer and run Workbench.
 
we can't invite anyone else into the team
because my BB plan only goes up to 10 users
 
4:42 PM
so we got a source control system then?
 
yeah
I paid for bitbucket
 
We can have one more.
 
we already have one member who doesn't have BB acces
 
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4:43 PM
Ok, it seems I have a working GCC 4.7, now I'm gonna spend a fucking eternity making the version control work :)
 
Artists don't necessarily have to have their own repos.
There are 9/10 people on BB team account.
 
Ill do some UI, maybe other art if need be.
Worst case scenario for music: Me and my guitar :P
 
@ScarletAmaranth Have you read hginit.com?
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes, I read it.
 
TortoiseHg should have a tutorial somewhere, too.
It's easy.
 
4:45 PM
Neil, I think.
 
I can help instruct about Hg
 
listed as code monkey but no BB access
 
I've used Hg for years.
 
I certainly want to do some game mechanics design though, just to make DeadMG angry :)
 
home!
@pubby give your email and I can add you to editors
 
4:47 PM
now we're capped
 
@thecoshman You're not gonna believe this but I have a working GCC 4.7 compiler. (In a SHIT FUCK BALLZ ide :))
 
I suck at RTSes, so I probably won't touch mechanics at all.
 
I have pretty wide RTS experience.
 
I see what you did there.
 
Same, ranging from Aoe to sodding RA.
 
4:48 PM
I've played many RTSes, but I suck at them.
 
I'm mediocre?
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't.
 
I played mostly Brood War, WC3, SC2 and AoE2.
With a little bit of Homeworld.
 
I have never done any level design, that could be fun.
 
@DeadMG Wide experience.
 
4:49 PM
are we going to stick to the 10 team members limit?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't AoE2 the best RTS evar :P ?
 
@CatPlusPlus oh now I see
 
Lol dibs on beta tester :D
 
@thecoshman Unless you want to pony up moneys for bitbucket.
 
So, what password is BB asking when im trying to clone ?
The teampassword or my account password ?
 
4:52 PM
@DeadMG I actually think trying to keep the team small like it is will help keep it more focused
 
Well, we will probably have to wear many hats though.
 
Your account.
I think. I use SSH keys.
 
@ScarletAmaranth I know, I was kidding.
 
@CatPlusPlus HTTPS or SSH keys, can we make it only SSH?
 
@thecoshman It needs auth either way.
SSH is less hassle.
 
4:54 PM
Can we post a link to the Google doc in the starboard?
 
Ok, now that I have cloned the sodding thing, how do I open it in the tortoise ? I have "The-game" directory.
 
Find the doc here Give me a shout if you need edit permissions
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it has an "open repository" thing in te file menu
 
@TonyTheLion there you go
god damn kitty! you get out of my screen! even wall mounted she get's all up in it!
 
kitty?
 
4:56 PM
my room feels oddly empty now that it's full of less junk
 
I'm no longer a code monkey, but a code Lion :)
 
@TonyTheLion my kitten :D
 
ah lol
so @MooingDuck is also part of this?
 
Ok, i have the repo open in the Tortoise. What now :D ?
 
A sec.
 
4:59 PM
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