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2:00 PM
@Griwes there are some cases when the compiler infers them wrong
 
@ElimGarak whoa, cool
 
@Dean lolwut
 
@Dean SSCCE or GTFO.
 
@Dean Have you realized that std::make_pair<T, U>(a, b) requires more typing than std::pair<T, U>(a, b)?
 
thank god I'm not maintaining that thing anymore
 
2:01 PM
but then why FPS get awesome face expressions but RPGs dont
 
The difference is also that the latter always works properly.
 
and anyway with msvc everything is possible
 
No need for MSVC.
 
The best thing is, that make_pair call probably means 2, 3 or even 4 different things when changing standard versions.
 
you're just limited by the fucking amount of compiler errors and your fantasy
90% and 10% respectively
 
2:02 PM
IIRC make_pair was changed thrice already.
 
@Griwes Exactly the point.
If you want specific types just s/make_//
Works every time, and is even shorter.
Total reasons to use explicit types arguments with std::make_pair: -1
 
user1804599
Type checkers are like Bloom filters.
 
user1804599
Is the program correct?
- Maybe
- No
 
You mean they generate false positives?
 
@Mr.kbok Asset production prioritization, open world RPGs need an entire world, FPS games usually have linear levels which are basically just movie sets, there is nothing behind that building you can't go around (literally nothing). And when you don't have to create 5 cities and the world in between, you can spend that extra time on faces. :D
 
2:03 PM
user image
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user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Some accept nonterminating programs.
 
That was fast.
 
Here's a cool example:
 
Also, I need names for "process that can generate false negatives" and for "process that can generate false positives".
 
(offline rendering)
 
2:05 PM
@ElimGarak it's @Andy
 
Chop chop.
 
@thecoshman Leaked images of me not wearing eyes
7
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes those suffice :P
@AndyProwl silly you
 
I find myself reaching for those names often.
I'll coin them myself if need be.
 
Is that head a slot machine, you can toss coins through eye sockets? Then you pull the ears & if you lucky, more coins will come out of his mouth
 
2:06 PM
they are 'misleading'
 
That doesn't distinguish the two.
 
Eyes need special care when rendering because they depend on both transmittance, reflectance and subsurface scattering to look right.
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes braggers and concealers.
 
@Elyse Other way around?
 
user1804599
Maybe.
 
2:07 PM
wtf sort of inbreed logic has a constant and calls it "...Counter"?
 
user1804599
This stuff is like contravariance: confusing.
 
Ven
I just explained rvalue references in "details" (he knew a bit), what are the differences between {p,gl,r,l,x}values, and when one is which... The look of despair in his eyes...
@Elyse cmon, liskov's subst principle isn't really confusing
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmm. type 1 & type 2 process? :S
 
positively-biased vs negatively-biased?
 
Ell
negatively misleading & positively misleading?
 
2:11 PM
probably better
 
Ell
hey I have an android idea
a lock screen where you can input a different pin code which hides all the porn you've downloaded
that way someone else can use your phone without discovering your dirty habit
that'd sell, right? :3
 
user406009
I think it's a stupid idea.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "sensory_deprivation_tank.exe" and "phantom_pain.exe" :P
 
user406009
But people like stupid ideas.
 
Am I retro for never having downloaded any porn on my phone?
 
Ell
2:16 PM
I haven't downloaded porn either
 
@AndyProwl s/not wearing eyes/being a demon/
 
Ell
but I watched this news report about sexting
 
user1804599
I don't download porn on my phone because internet on phone is fucking expensive with a prepaid subscription.
 
user406009
sexting is stupid.
 
Ell
surely the kids would need this app to protect their personal privacy from their parents
 
2:17 PM
sexting is what exactly?
I am a bit scared of googling
like, texting each other pics of genitals?
 
user406009
@AndyProwl Sending dick/naked pics to each other.
 
@Ell well, the positive/negative nature of them might be context sensative
 
user406009
Yep, texting pics of genitals.
 
@Lalaland oh, cool, I guessed correctly
 
Ell
@AndyProwl yup
+dirty talk etc. etc.
 
2:18 PM
@Ell nah that would be sextagramming
 
got it
 
user406009
@AndyProwl It's also a considering creating child pornography if the person sending is underage.
 
sexting is texting dirty
 
you might be looking for things that pass/fail a test, so what false results you get depend on if you want the test to pass or fail.
 
user406009
You get these funny criminal trials where the sender of the messages is both the victim and the perpetrator.
 
2:19 PM
There's nothing inherently wrong with sexting as long as it is between willing persons.
 
Ell
@Lalaland yup, totally and utterly ridiculous
 
user406009
Well, funny to obververs.
 
user406009
The people getting prosecuted are getting screwed.
 
@AndyProwl sexual texts
 
@Lalaland so you're creating child pornography if you receive a picture?
how would you prevent that
 
user406009
2:19 PM
No, you are creating child pornography if you send it.
 
oh, that
 
@AndyProwl report it
 
user406009
Even if the picture is of you.
 
Ven
@AndyProwl <3
 
user406009
And you created it.
 
2:19 PM
lol
 
Ven
@Griwes I love it
 
Ell
@Lalaland meh I think it's just sad
 
sexting is the transmission of a series of binary (0s & 1s), that when interpreted by your phone (pc or other devices) forms some kind of 2d image which is capable of trigger some chemical reaction when re-interpreted by your brain
 
@Lalaland ...can't they as a victim just say "I withdraw the case"?
 
@chmod666telkitty keep trying
 
2:21 PM
2 tier interpretation of 0s and 1s
 
@Ell how was it (also, was it seriously interesting, I'm interest in a link in that case)
 
@Griwes nope
 
Hey, at least sexting allows to see something else than porn-actor-sized dicks. It's probably good for self-esteem.
 
you never know how powerful those 0s amongst 1s are! 0 is not nothing!
 
@thecoshman How retarded is that?
 
user406009
2:22 PM
@Griwes You can never do that.
 
children can't consent to child pornography
even if they did it themselves
 
Ell
@sehe It wasn't very good, it was about how they use acronyms to hide it from their parents
 
Ven
@thecoshman well, for some definition of "consent" -_-
 
@Ell Well, have I ever
@Ven Pr0nsent
 
Ell
Which I don't think even happens any more
most kids test in full not l337 sp33k
 
2:23 PM
@thecoshman so they like, get arrested for being the victims of their own actions?
 
@Ell I would absolutely not be sure
 
@Lalaland Retardation confirmed /cc @Griwes
 
Ven
some teens have been arrested for having "child pornography" pics they took themselves
 
user406009
To be fair, even without the criminal components, sexting is still stupid.
 
user406009
2:24 PM
I mean, most relationships break up.
 
user406009
And you don't want your exes to have blackmail material.
 
wot
 
The world is retarded.
Okay, so if a kid can't withdraw the case as a victim, can his legal guardian do that?
 
@Lalaland Or you could also be fine with random people seeing pictures of you naked and not give a fuck.
 
2:25 PM
I would be more worried to have phone hacked (or cloud which is backed on hacked)
 
Ell
@Lalaland why?
 
Ven
@chmod666telkitty teh fappening indeed
@Ell because they're not sending them to him :P
 
Ell
@Lalaland What about ordinary relationships?
 
Because I'd love to be able to say something like "fuck off, mate" to a retarded prosecutor (ignoring the rest of the whole supposed situation for the sake of the argument).
 
user406009
@Griwes I don't think you can withdraw from legal cases in general.
 
user406009
2:26 PM
You can refuse to testify.
 
user406009
But that's it.
 
I'm a "victim", but I don't feel a victim.
 
user406009
It's the government which is prosecuting the other person.
 
Ven
the law decided you weren't old enough to decide, @Griwes (in this case)
 
blergh
 
@Lalaland Which is extremely retarded in cases where the government is not a victim itself.
 
Ven
if I write for (auto foo : lines()) {}, is foo moved to? do I need to write auto&& foo for that?
 
user406009
@Griwes The role of the government is to enforce the law of the land.
 
user1804599
@Ven no, it is copied into.
 
Ven
@Elyse would auto&& foo work? lines returns an xvalue
 
user406009
2:29 PM
@Morwenn Well, I don't really trust anyone.
 
@Lalaland Yeah. Two kids sending "dick" pics to each other doesn't hurt the civil order.
 
@AndyProwl Texting innuendo, possibly with pictures.
 
user406009
@Griwes Some prudes think it does.
 
@Ven foo is named in both cases, so it's an lvalue.
 
Ven
@Griwes counts as porn I guess?
 
user1804599
2:29 PM
@Ven Yes, range-based for uses iterators, and if *it returns a reference then auto&& works fine.
 
Ell
@Lalaland that is the role of the police force(s) and judicial system(s)
 
@Lalaland I mean, if I ever find pics/videos of me naked on the internet, well... I'll live with it.
 
user406009
@Griwes You have to remember that we are talking about people who also want to ban porn in general.
 
Ven
@Griwes ok, so even auto&& won't get me a move? :/
 
@Ven So you'll need std::move to actually have it moved (also remember that std::move doesn't move, unless we are talking about the algorithm).
 
user406009
2:30 PM
There is no reasoning with these people.
 
Ven
@Elyse the vector type is a string
 
user1804599
@Ven If you want to move you have to do this:
 
user1804599
for (auto&& fooRef : lines()) {
    auto foo = std::move(fooRef);
}
 
@Ven Porn doesn't destroy the civil order either!
 
Ven
@Griwes for (auto a : std::move(lines()) seems like the worst thing I could write.
 
2:31 PM
Heck, in some ways it does help upholding it.
@Ven foo
lines() doesn't have a name.
std::move on it does nothing.
 
Twice I posted some revealing pictures of myself, it came back to bite me 10 years later. I don't trust the internet either. P.S. I did not say naked.
 
Ven
> seems like the worst thing I could write.
 
user1804599
@Ven that does not move anything.
 
foo. In the loop. Unless you didn't mean "is foo moved" and meant "is the result of lines() moved".
 
Ven
@Elyse I know
 
2:32 PM
In which case you asked the question in an obviously wrong way.
 
@chmod666telkitty It's not a question of trusting. It's a question of being able to assume what you sent years later.
 
user1804599
begin and end don't take by value.
 
user1804599
Unless they do (if you defined your own and it finds them with ADL) but then you're a fool.
 
Ven
@Elyse why is fooRef an auto&&?
 
lines() returns something you can call begin() and end() on. If those functions have proper ref-qualified overloads for rvalues that return moving iterators, then the values will be moved into foo. Otherwise (which is most commonly the case), they will be copied
 
user1804599
2:33 PM
@Ven Because if it's auto then it'll be a copy.
 
user1804599
I guess it could be auto&.
 
Ven
oke
 
@Ven The result of lines() will be saved like this: auto && __init_expr = lines();.
 
Ven
@Griwes ah! okay
 
@Andy 👫💑💏👉👌🙌👏🌟✨💦💏💏💏👌👉🍆💦👍💤
 
2:33 PM
internet is a scary place, you can never be sure who is listening
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes homophobe cis scum, disgustnig.
 
@chmod666telkitty How is your SO avatar not revealing then?
 
Eggplant is the common emoji for "penis".
 
Ven
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can't believe all of those were yellow. You fucking asianmasterrace
 
2:34 PM
I know that for Unicode-related reasons, I swear.
 
@Ven The type you give foo doesn't change how lines() is kept alive for the duration of the loop.
 
user406009
@AndyProwl I think we have found your next calling. Make a funny fake C++ porno.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that a ciphered message
 
@Rerito I used to have better figure
 
@AndyProwl yes, but they could of been coerced see.
 
user406009
2:34 PM
I believe in you!
 
guys i need a word
 
> bazinga
 
@AndyProwl It's just emojis, but it's pretty clear what it means.
 
vote for 1) cruft 2) rubbish 3) rubbage
 
There, a word.
 
2:35 PM
@Lalaland C++ bukkake /cc @Elyse
 
user1804599
> Russian veto against rejection of denial of doping charges
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is it?
lol
 
also my avatar would have been modified if it's indeed revealing
 
Ven
@Griwes yeah, but auto foo : would create a copy of the element, right?
 
@Ven yes
 
2:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes tl;dr sex?
 
Oh, so by revealing you mean almost nude then (like bikini or something)
 
Ven
because *it is an lvalue
 
The same way auto foo = anything_really(); would.
 
user1804599
@Ven Desugar it manually and see for yourself. See en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/range-for.
 
@thecoshman how complex a permutation should I apply to solve the puzzle?
 
user406009
2:36 PM
@Mr.kbok You have to give us the context. Each of those words has a good use in different scenarios.
 
Ven
@Elyse oh nice
 
@Rerito does tight tank top count?
 
@Lalaland or anyone else
 
@Ven Well, or it could move it. :P
 
@chmod666telkitty Not really I'ld say
 
user406009
2:36 PM
@sehe Well, usually you break up with your exes for a good reason ...
 
you have not seen me in that tight tank top then :p
 
@chmod666telkitty Don't post it though
 
auto foo will make you a value. auto && will give you a forwarding reference.
 
I think I already did a while ago, maybe ... can't remember now
 
That's the same rules as usual.
 
2:37 PM
@Mr.kbok rhubarb
 
The rest - the rules of how it's initialized - are also the same as usual.
 
@chmod666telkitty My point here is that, as hot as you may be on this photo, there is no blackmail material
 
> forwarding reference
forever confusing
 
it is hot? really?? no sarcasm???
 
Ven
2:38 PM
@Griwes yeah looking at that now
 
I dunno never saw it
 
awkwarding reference
4
 
I'm just assuming
 
confusing reference
hmm
I might start calling it that from now on.
:D
 
@AndyProwl ?
 
2:38 PM
Though don't post it here
 
@Rerito I don't suppose anyone did
 
@thecoshman I didn't understand what you wrote. Seems like the words are out of order or something
 
@chmod666telkitty you can be almost sure nobody is listening
 
So what did the creep wanted with that kind of email?
 
2:40 PM
@thecoshman oh wait I think I got it
of = have
plus missing "to"
 
@AndyProwl I guess, if you are crazy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the last must be "hot steaming sex wedding night" then?
 
@AndyProwl no, just superfluous 'see'
 
@thecoshman so how should it read?
oh, ok
 
@AndyProwl s/of/have/ :P
 
2:41 PM
@thecoshman yeah, got it :P
 
@Mr.kbok with whom?
 
@AndyProwl Man and Woman Holding Hands, Couple with Heart, Kiss, White Right Pointing Backhand Index, OK Hand Sign, Person Raising Both Hands in Celebration, Clapping Hands Sign, Glowing Star, Sparkles, Splashing Sweat Symbol, Kiss, Kiss, Kiss, OK Hand Sign, White Right Pointing Backhand Index, Aubergine, Splashing Sweat Symbol, Thumbs Up Sign, Sleeping Symbol.
 
> Aubergine
 
user406009
Aren't you missing the baby symbol?
 
@Morwenn It's the Unicode name.
 
user1804599
2:46 PM
What do you call a courgette for paupers?
A guccini.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes After focusing on it for a while I understood why a few of those things can be interpreted sexually, but "Person Raising Both Hands in Celebration" and "Clapping Hands Sign"... no idea. In any case it is the "clearly" part that I question. Probably depends for whom. I just saw a bunch of symbols.
 
@AndyProwl lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's fun that they took the British name for it.
 
6 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
But Unicode names are often confusing, misleading, or outright wrong, so don't go by them.
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl spanking
 
2:47 PM
@AndyProwl Everything can be interpreted sexually. You just didn't think hard enough :p
 
Nasa is such a sell out ... huge amount of publicity for little genuine discoveries nowadays. I am disappointed.
 
@Elyse Raising Both Hands in Celebration is spanking?
 
@AndyProwl They're happy.
 
or the clapping hands?
how does happiness lead to spanking
 
It's a happy ending.
 
2:48 PM
are you guys trolling me :D
 
@chmod666telkitty Yeah, it seems that they have changed the way they communicate a few months ago. It's clickbaity.
 
Last major announcement was 'there is water on mars, most probably?' ... wtf
 
oh
jesus christ
that's like... "clearly"?
I had to follow 14 steps of metaphors to get there
 
Well, aubergine.
 
@chmod666telkitty Last? No, last was yesterday's annoucement about the discovery of MSVC on Pluto.
 
2:49 PM
I didn't even realize it was an aubergine
 
Ven
wut, there's no pop_front on vector? ok
 
@Morwenn They fucking left Matt Damon there the bastards
 
there must be something wrong with me
 
What did you think it was?
 
@Morwenn is microsoft a sponsor for nasa now? :p
 
Ven
2:49 PM
should I just .erase(begin(c))?
 
user406009
@Ven You probably want a deque
 
@Ven There's no push_front either. It means that you're better off using another structure for front insertion.
 
@chmod666telkitty Weak troll.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes A container for salt, or pepper. Not kidding
 
@Ven Of course not, that operation is costly on vector, so it's not there.
 
Ven
2:50 PM
@Morwenn no, no, there's just one case where I only want to remove the first element (because it's a comment). nothing else @Lalaland
 
Assuming you're referring to this? 🍆
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the sad thing is that, I wasn't trolling
 
@AndyProwl If I zoom out enough it looks like a molotov cocktail
 
world is sick
also the writer looks cute
inb4 sexist
 
2:51 PM
I agree, there aren't many adults who have not been sick before
 
Ven
sighs
 
@AndyProwl I'll call you "sexually healthy" mister
 
@AlexM. shakes hand Pleased to meet you
 
I wouldn't ... for some reasons his mind is capable of leaping from clapping to spanking.
 
lol dat edit
 
2:53 PM
@AndyProwl Yes.
 
@AndyProwl You mean shakes aubergine right?
 
@Rerito hahaha
gosh
 
As much as I like the current conversation, I'll step out and go read a book.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I genuinely thought it was a salt or pepper container
 
2:53 PM
See you later ♥
 
Ven
Bai
 
Cheers
 
@Morwenn A plus wesh
 
I saw a fat black dot with some tiny white bits on top
 
Ven
@Rerito izi
 
2:54 PM
I'll come back once I'm bored after a few chapters :p
 
@Ven Let's sing some booba
 
Ven
92 izi
 
user406009
@Morwenn You clearly need to read better books then.
 
user406009
I highly recommend all of Brandon Sanderson's novels.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes from a pedantic POV, should emoji characters be drawn as pretty pictures? I thought they should be treated more like winding fonts, they can be formatted to have colour, but are basically a shape.
 
user1804599
wtf
 
user1804599
PureScript has newtype why ;_;
 
user1804599
its data constructors are always strict in their arguments
 
NASA, ESA, SpaceX ... someone do something interesting, PLEEEAAAAASE!
Is there any limit in optical zooming, does anyone know?
 
> In other words, any pictorial representation of a lollipop, custard, honey pot or shortcake respectively, whether a line drawing, gray scale, or colored image (possibly animated) is considered an acceptable rendition for the given emoji. However, a design that is too different from other vendors’ representations may cause interoperability problems: see Design Guidelines in UTR #51. [Lollipop, custard, honey pot, and shortcake were given as examples prior in the text]
 
user406009
2:58 PM
@chmod666telkitty Doing interesting things requires a lot of money.
 
Ven
@Elyse because data Meter = Meter Int is too long to write!
 
user1804599
newtype Meter = Meter Int is longer.
 
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do people actually use Emoji for communication nowadays?
 
@Morwenn Yeah right, I've got some Lady Gaga going here hahahaha
 
user406009
I thought they were just jokes?
 
2:59 PM
@Morwenn awww <3
 
@Lalaland lol, yeah.
@chmod666telkitty lol
 
@Lalaland You should see my stepsister's twitter account
 

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