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1:00 PM
@sehe you what now? =/ also your response to "cool" was "i doubt it"? :P
 
@LucDanton Will hopefully minimize the madness induced by learning a RTL language for the first time.
 
is there a compile-time version of strlen?
 
@Borgleader I doubt it's cool. It's a limitation that requires the ugly hackery shown
@Dean constexpr it
 
I'm using an old msvc2010 compiler, not sure if that could work
 
using constexpr std::strlen; like that?
 
1:01 PM
@Dean I am sure. It couldn't
@LucDanton lel
 
I'm tired of doing sizeof("something")/sizeof(char) - 1
 
@Dean That's a different thing:
@Dean C++03 template <typename T, size_t N> size_t size(T (&)[N]) { return N-1; }
 
that one is actually constexpr, too
 
IKR
 
that requires a lvalue right?
 
1:03 PM
Yes. But that goes for sizeof("something")/sizeof(char) - 1 too
 
I wish I could use C++11
all of it.. not some tiny itty bits from msvc2010
"tiny itty".append("buggy");
 
What
Ah. You meant "tiny itty"s.append("buggy") then (rubbing it in :))
 
<iterator> cus I was wondering if std::size was there already
 
@sehe Still cool you managed to get around said limitation :)
 
It's the same trick as before. We can do everything "stateful" with the with<T>[] directive. It's a loop hole/key hole
 
1:11 PM
my first fork and pull request: github.com/glfw/glfw/pull/640 :D
 
@LucDanton Oh yeah. Slightly less than interesting though, because then you can't simultaneously use the array
 
> Commits: 1
> Showing 95 changed files with 15,544 additions and 4,651 deletions.
 
haha, yeah I know
 
Ell
@edition hmm. Isn't glfw supposed to be cross platform? :)
 
Wait, you bumped a version down from 3.2.0 to 3.1.2?
 
1:13 PM
@Ell "fw"?
 
@edition "Initial commit"?
 
Or failed to rebase?
 
@Ell hopefully I won't be laughed at by the contributors :')
 
ewwww whitespace changes
Yeah, and you missed some upstream changes.
 
I tried
 
1:14 PM
And failed.
Now go do it again, this time properly. :P
 
user1804599
@edition wtf
 
user1804599
that diff is huge and has shitloads of things unrelated to menus
 
yes, yes, I know because I just copied everything
 
@edition Not sure that downgrading the release number is a good idea.
 
@edition wait what?
 
user1804599
1:16 PM
If you do 2000 different unrelated things you should create 2000 commits, not just 1.
 
^ That
 
what the fuck happened in your repo
 
The thing is, he took some version of upstream, applied changes, disregarded changes that happened in the meantime, and made a pull request.
Or at least it looks that way.
 
Yay, I finished to write down that improvised solo. It wil make learning it easier.
 
well, what have I learned today?
oh yes, remember which files I modify and push them instead of copying everything and making the contributors sort out the inconsistencies.
 
1:21 PM
...
 
@Borgleader <3 <3<3 :D
 
In the office I'm the guy whose phone number is in the file.
 
user1804599
ballsack ballsackballsack happy face
 
I don't make analogies for branches, though.
 
1:27 PM
@TonyTheLion <3 <3 <3
 
@Borgleader Sup :D
 
That feeling when you completely disagree with the Brotherhood of Steel, but have to use them for their resources.
 
is the game fun?
 
they say kill mutants right?
 
@TonyTheLion nm, eating breakfast while stuffs compiling, you?
is snackchat bugged? i keep getting flag notifications but the popup says theres no flag to be displayed
 
1:37 PM
Oh, yes, very much so. It makes work feel like a chore, so it succeeds in entertaining. :D
 
@Borgleader I'm working, testing some stuffs
 
@Mr.kbok Well, this time around it is about the synthetics. It's very Mass Effect in that regard. Also, Tuvok from Star Trek is voice acting. Also, Garrus. And a few others from Mass Effect.
 
> std::make_pair<Underlyings::UnderlyingId, Underlyings::UnderlyingInfo>(mainParam.m_underlying_id, info);
 
> Underlyings
 
ugh
 
1:40 PM
ahahahahaha
 
fail
 
how bad at C++ do you have to be to actually provide the template arguments for make_pair
 
modern c++ fail
 
TopLevels::TopLevelId
 
std:make_pair<Sock, Sock>
7
 
1:41 PM
s/modern //
That piece of code was always a fail.
 
@ElimGarak what about voice acting?
 
@Mr.kbok Awesome voice acting, classic shit lipsync, but better than FO3 and FNV.
 
@ElimGarak oh, voice acting in fallout? didn't catch the implied part :D
I was like yeah I know garrus is voice acting it's not a synthetizer DUH
 
Also, you guys want to see the advances in smoke tip lighting?
 
@ElimGarak jesus christ that's ugly
 
1:43 PM
@ElimGarak is source best lipsync? I read about it on wikipedia
 
@AlexM. see what happens when you don't drink your milk
 
That orange light comes from the tip of the cigar (doesn't cast shadows either).
 
wtf lightning
 
I think you're the only person on this planet seeing these things
 
1:44 PM
but nice smoke
 
Ell
lol
 
wait
you mean that whole light
 
Yeah
 
is from the cigar?
wat
 
When he puts it away, the whole room goes dark ahahah
 
1:45 PM
wtf
I too hate it when I light up a cigar and people around me reach for their sunglasses
 
@Mr.kbok The Source engine was pretty good at lipsync because all of its animations where largely handcrafted or scanned (they actual had a skeletal rig for the face muscles). Nowadays, the top notch stuff is usually highly detailed face morph targets.
Speaking of sunglasses, I have awesome sunglasses. Let me take a screenie.
 
@AlexM. ITT beth people never, ever saw a cig in their lives
 
beth people
aah bethesda people
 
@ElimGarak what's face morph targets?
 
@ElimGarak Reminds me of Gothic. :D
 
Ell
1:50 PM
morph targets are when you move vertices positions towards another position based on weights of the vertices & a scale value
right?
 
@Mr.kbok Geometry snapshots in different poses (max distortion) and then using scanned data to determine how much to deform the nominal shape based on the input information.
 
@Mr.kbok you basically only model a few key points of the animation, and then let the computer blend the inbetweens
 
It is the norm nowadays as you can easily figure in stuff like forehead wrinkling without actually having that resolution during the face animation scan.
 
It's probably also lighter on the memory, at the cost of raw cpu time.
Each vertex just needs to know N positions and how much to weight to put towards each. In fact, it'd be GPU that does the blending wouldn't it.
CPU just needs to work out how the weights and set that over to the GPU
 
I see.
but which games do that
 
1:54 PM
@Mr.kbok Many games, they also dial the quality at different levels, depending on production values, here's an example.
That's a more advanced combination of both a skeletal rig and morph targeting, as well as adding in wrinkle maps for dynamic distortion (but for performance reasons mainly, not quality).
 
@ElimGarak can you disable the blur?
 
@AlexM. Actually, no. :D There is the Bokeh DoF and "Standard", which is probably just a separable gaussian kernel or a box filter. Although, I haven't really seen any bokeh at ultra yet.
 

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