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7:00 PM
@Ell naw
 
Ell
I'm young and naive
 
Young and native
 
> Test suite test: FAIL
got'cha
 
@Griwes you found the realistically sounding bits. Check my twitter timeline for #cujo convos
 
Almost 400 folks coming to the #DLang tech talk in Romania - what am I gonna do? No eggs and vegetables please! http://curiousminds.ro/
there's D to be had in Romania!
 
7:10 PM
@sehe do you feel like writing some boost?
 
they want the D
 
and only 3 hrs away from me
by train
should I get the D
 
@JohanLarsson 5 letters? ~effort~
 
ah nvm it's this friday
prolly sold out already
 
@AlexM. 15 minutes was ok, but one full hour may be a bit long ._____.
 
7:11 PM
@sehe great!
 
fuck
Circle CI's UI is broken in safari
eh time to install chrome I suppose
 
lol mac
 
lol puppy
 
7:15 PM
I only used OS X for a year at work
but the one thing I still remember clearly is
 
...wait for it...
 
this weird option when postponing an update
 
Xeo
OSX's default keyboard layout sucks
 
"Try again later tonight"
why tonight, why not tomorrow, what does "tonight" even mean
why not an exact number of hours
 
Ell
I'm still struggling with C for generics
I will use a macro next time
 
7:18 PM
@AlexM. 69 minutes
or 420 seconds
 
@Xeo i hate the tilde near the shift
and lack of physical End/Home
 
Good afternoon.
 
@Xeo Yeah, it's complete shit. I actually had to spend quite a bit of time with Ukulele getting it right.
 
@Nooble I almost got MacOSX builds to work ,-,
 
Xeo
@ElimGarak UK (PC) is almost like a normal layout
'cept for \ and ` being swapped
 
7:20 PM
@AnalPhabet Exercise in futility.
 
@Nooble Buuuuut it doesn't work
It doesn't cimpol
 
@AnalPhabet And it never will.
> OSX
 
@Ell well, Im pretty sure that with very little Haskell experience I just used lists and that was about it :) - but ok that can be just me
 
#troofwithnooblel
 
@Nooble pff, noobs, my haskell programs work on OSX just fine
use non shit language next time
like one that's actually production ready, not C++
 
Ell
7:22 PM
are there any production ready languages?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Pain is just a feeling!
 
@Ell We have this thing called C++.
 
@Ell C#
best language
 
why has noone mentioned Henk 2000 yet?
 
I am pain
I am real, I'm not a dream
I'm the chain around your neck as you scream
 
7:22 PM
clearly the most production-ready language
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
@AlexM. Meh proprietary.
 
@Nooble wha
"proprietary" has to be the dumbest argument against C# I've heard
 
@Nooble you're also your mom's property but you don't see yourself mehing at yourself
 
@Nooble Write a cimploler
@AlexM. Is he?
Hrmmmmmm
 
Ell
7:25 PM
@BartekBanachewicz "vendor lock in" then
 
^
 
IDGI how using C# is vendor lock in
can you explain?
 
isn't there like mono
and that native C# compiler
 
DONT USE C++ ITS G++ VENDOR LOCK IN
 
that doesn't use the .NET
 
Ell
7:26 PM
@BartekBanachewicz c++ has several implementations
g++, clang, msvc, icc
also g++ is free & clang is open source so no vendor lock in
 
Go ahead command.
 
> msvc
 
Roger.
Vendor, locked in.
 
@Ell doesn't C# have the same
 
7:27 PM
Watch your mouth, boy. What? Your momma never leveled your speechcraft or something?
 
@Ell so does C#
 
Ell
@AlexM. idk vOv
 
I like just told you
 
Ell
I was just phrasing better what I thought Nooble meant
 
7:28 PM
that it's not just microsoft doing C#
a bit above
 
@Ell "better"
IOW more wrongly?
 
Ell
"proprietary" is a fact, not a reason
 
large parts of .net is open source
 
"proprietary" is a non-fact
it doesn't mean anything
 
I find it a bit funny that Mono had a C# 6 compiler ready faster than Microsoft
and that MonoGame was used for more meaningful things than XNA ever was
 
7:29 PM
Guys, we're in C++erica here. Speak C++erican. I don't see Muslims preaching in Catholic churches. :P Language bigotry, it's a thing now.
Actually, it's still C+plus. Oh, well.
 
@JohanLarsson is there something like a book with cool LINQ stuff?
 
@ElimGarak fuck this attitude
 
@BartekBanachewicz It means that you're tied to a company.
 
is elim cicada btw
 
@Nooble well okay then you were plainly wrong
@AlexM. no
 
7:31 PM
@AlexM. Yeah.
 
@AlexM. Gregor McGregor is Cicada. At least until he transforms into Andrey's ex now that the guy posted pictures of his sister.
 
who's cicada nowadays, besides anastasia
ok gregor ty
 
Ell
I totes got with andrey's sister you know
 
Isn't a large amount of .NET patented by Microsoft?
 
@Ell Does she talk about her ex too?
 
7:32 PM
who's andrey?
 
@AlexM. :) <- is pretty much what I use
 
Although I do see that it's standardized, I suppose that's well.
 
@AlexM. He's plonked, but investigate the starboard to get an idea.
 
Ell
@ElimGarak in a bad way
 
3 hours ago, by Andy Prowl
dude do you ever talk about anything else than your ex gf
 
7:33 PM
aaah I remember that guy now
 
The one who said I somehow looked like his ex ._____.
 
We’ve certainly talked about partial application in C++ before, but have we talked about a mixin approach? cc @Xeo @Rapptz @R.MartinhoFernandes
Should probably be named mixin_for_cool_niebler_functions actually.
 
Hm, implementing a Swing console that does output and input is not as trivial as it sounds.
 
wish it was still the weekend :<
 
fuck circle what's going on
build my thing
 
7:36 PM
@LucDanton That seemed like a good idea :)
 
Ell
> // praise be to Niebler
 
Our lord savior
 
I’ve done a lot of duplication/boilerplate before to provide a regular foo::bar function-like functor and a foo::manipulators::bar version which is curried up to the last argument, for easy composition/pipelining. On the one hand it’s not intrusive (foo::bar being the really important part), on the other hand it’s still noise.
@Ell Programs always start with the prerequisite incantations right at the top, for good luck.
E.g. many make a small offering to using namespace std;.
 
Ell
@LucDanton shame on them, they worship the devil
 
software/library recommendations are off-topic on SO
is there a different stackexchange forum for these type of questions?
 
7:45 PM
Because if you make a right choice, you won't need SO for help. And that's bad business.
 
> Downloading unix
good luck Cabal
 
does beer expire
on this can it says it'll expire in 20 days
it's ancient, from back in spring
 
someone finally fixed the physics in Super Mario
 
@thecoshman funny
 
7:56 PM
@AlexM. yes
 
@BartekBanachewicz Isn't it better old?
Or is that just wine.
 
No and no
 
cabal: can't find source for Test/Test in dist/build/test/test-tmp
uh FFS wut
 
The maximum and minimum ages are confined
 
carma: can't find source for Test/Test in dist/build/test/test-tmp
 
7:59 PM
it works locally!
 
Said just about everybody, ever
 
why is it looking for sources in build anyway
 
'Tis a mystery
 
> ProgrammerDadJokes
 
8:01 PM
Pfffffffff
Nice one
 
user1804599
No shit.
 
@elyse What, is that a code quality policy? :P
 
@fredoverflow meh people
 
> I see many times StackOverflow Driven Development when developers have no idea why and how their code works because they copy-pasted it from the web. And it’s not that rare. How many parts of your code did you found on the web and don’t understand how they work?
 
> You have to understand programming, underlying concepts, software architecture, and design patterns. A syntax is not enough unless you want to be a coding monkey.
meh
 
fred pls stop
the pain is
you know what annoys me more than this stuff tho
 
nvm, it is ok
 
games with hints at progrmaming especially if they're obvious
like
look at that shit what do they know their brain is a binary masturbation just like their game
 
/facepalm
 
8:17 PM
it has the same effect like those CSI videos I never laugh at those
> "A beautiful adventure with heart, humour, and satisfying hacking puzzles you can enjoy even if you don’t know anything about coding."
Read the full review here.
k that's it I finish this beer then go straight to bed
 
> We should try to simplify the inheritance graphs, in particular those of often-used collections
such as lists.
 
@ScottW hey it's the lisper
he reviewed some of my scheme and racket
 
So much goddamn code to write.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Abandon all the inheritance.
 
user1804599
Simplicity achieved.
 
user1804599
8:30 PM
Achieve reusability through a Foldable type class.
 
@ScottW They have been making changes for quite a while now
 
but did they add regex search?
NO
chatroom for programmers
no regex in search
#SO
 
No, butts aren't NSFW at all
 
Gotta sit on something.
 
8:38 PM
@Jaden Try sitting on your mom, heard she provides plenty of space
 
@AnalPhabet really? Why do I get the feeling I am the oldest one here?
 
@Mr.kbok the worst part is that they have good concepts that they rush and underbudget
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion there may be an issue with this weekend - it's apparently 2 of my flatmates birthdays :L
 
look at M&M X
 
Ell
But I'll check and see if we can do something on friday instead
 
8:39 PM
> Some call me "programmer", some call me "weirdo", neither of them are wrong.

There are also those, that call me "C++ wizard". Other wizardry I engage in includes, but is not limited to, scala and Minecraft.
They do?
@AnalPhabet Who calls you "C++ wizard"?
 
is that minibartek's description?
 
Your mum?
 
I laughed when I first saw it
 
what does printf do?
 
> I used to be a C programmer like you, until I got sick of SIGSEGV.
 
8:40 PM
@Jaden Give segmentation faults (among many other things).
 
It prints f.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ People
Don't ask
 
@AlexM. Who's minibartek and why?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I am
Because I used to do barteking
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yes
 
8:41 PM
only Puppy qualifies as a C++ wizard
 
you're more like a C++ druid
 
@Puppy s/C++/butt/
 
definitely an arcane caster
 
/me hits @Puppy with pin.
Has you ego deflated yet?
 
wergh how do I deal with libc++'s hashes, or lack thereof
 
8:43 PM
Also, fixing the typo from the mobile chat is impossible.
 
By using libstdc++
 
@wilx False
 
Hashes? You mean unordered maps?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ lol
 
8:44 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ But Mac/XCode cannot into libstdc++
@wilx I mean std::hash and it being std::__1::hash
 
I'm on Mac and they can
 
@AnalPhabet It’s an inline namespace, should have no effect.
 
@LucDanton With libc++ they do
Also, fuck libc++
 
I would rather funk some woman.
Cannot fix this typo either.
 
ITT funny typos
@wilx click orange button -> "edit last"
 
8:47 PM
the irony
 
@wilx yeah I hate it when the phone autocorrects "man" to "woman"
 
Autocorrect in action.
 
@AlexM. sexist
men are people too
 
@AnalPhabet OH!
 
but only 3/5 of a woman
 
8:48 PM
3/5 of your mum is still infinity
 
@wilx Well, wasn't that tricky to find
 
111
Q: Should I stop using the term C/C++?

redobotI understand C and C++ are different languages but when I was learning C++ I was always told that C is a subset of C++ or C++ is C with classes. And that was quite true until the appearance of C++x0, C++11 (or the modern C++ 11/14/17 in general). In fact (especially when working on embedded syste...

this question has been in the hot list for 5 days
what's up with that
 
> Yes
NEXT
 
@AnalPhabet it is!
 
8:50 PM
@wilx And it totally isn't under a bright big orange button
 
@Rapptz Maybe some people don't think it is a single thing, but rather a list because they use multiple tools and such to accomplish their tasks.
 
@Rapptz I hate when I see that written on people's profiles on linkedin
I hate everything today it seems
 
-        more i = do { e <- dot_index i; more e }
-             <|> do { e <- brace_index i; more e }
-             <|> do { e <- member_call i; more e }
-             <|> do { e <- fcall i; more e }
+        more i = (dot_index i >>= more)
+             <|> (brace_index i >>= more)
+             <|> (member_call i >>= more)
+             <|> (fcall i >>= more)
mmm
gotta love syntax refactors
 
@ScottW do you like this youtube.com/watch?v=T_34tpg2994
it's like the only 50c song I like but I listen to it really often
 
Ah. It does work.
 
8:56 PM
oh ffs
I think I see the issue
the folder is lowercase
git didn't commit my change to uppercase
 
aren't most filesystems case insensitive anyways?
 
That happens on Windows with other VCS as well.
 
> File names under OS X are not case sensitive.
what
no
bullshit
 
ah
i would say 90% or more macs are case insensitive
 
FUUUUUCK
 
8:59 PM
Case preserving but case insensitive. Can you not turn it off?
 
I did have a mac that I formatted as case sensitive for some reason. steam doesn't work
or adobe
 
Dafuq is this shit.
 
so ergonomic
if only my hands were circular
 

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