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21:00
Looks like Nooble's mom sat on a plastic pad.
@ElimGarak can't be any worse than that mouse I bought. Tiny buttons even for small thumbs. I end up hitting 3 at a time.
@ElimGarak Not Something I'd Use GX 3+ Pro
Some gaming keyboard?
But if you want to rename from casesensitive to CaseSensitive, you can do this way: git mv casesensitive Temp and then git mv Temp CaseSensitiveViliusK Feb 9 '14 at 21:03
ASDASFASF@#RFEAFASF@#
@ElimGarak keyboard for gaming, duh
left side is for shooters
right side for MMO grids
21:04
your mom's meh
it looks pretty comfy
@ElimGarak :(
@ʞɔᴉN ErgoFux.
Omg. This Bjarne keynote at CppCon is long.
@Nooble i reported a bug to massdrop and they suck
@ʞɔᴉN What bug.
autofill email/pw on the signup screen
pretty minor but confusing. was not able to get the rep to understand what the actual issue was
21:08
FUCK YEAH FINALLY
did you know they got over 40 million in funding?
@BartekBanachewicz everyone knows fps players hold their keyboards like this static.hltv.org/images/galleries/5944-full/1394717014.5136.jpeg
what's that son?
a Razer BlackWidow
:)
21:09
@ʞɔᴉN Whoa.
also lol @ playing at 640x480
@Nooble we have another mechanical keyboard convert
we shall soon empty the pockets of every lounge member
@ʞɔᴉN who would that be?
yeah, 640x360 is so much better.
@BartekBanachewicz there're all kind of weird things players like
one pro plays with inverted mouse settings
21:10
@BartekBanachewicz YOU
"I got used to it like that
Pro gamers, the most hilarious thing since kitchen sinks.
pro moba players in asia are really rich though
they get $$$ in the order of millions
@ElimGarak 720x348. Hercules graphics FTW!
@AlexM. I want inverse scrolling setting in android
21:11
@ʞɔᴉN But it's a blackwidow.
@ʞɔᴉN lol, dude, I had a mechanical keyboard before you joined SO
He needs a Pok3r.
there was this korean footbal or basketball or w/e team that was really excited when the starcraft 2 team visited them
@BartekBanachewicz hipster
because the starcraft 2 team was like some sort of idols lol
21:12
I joined in like.. 2013? will have to check
@AlexM. What is on his shirt?
@ElimGarak you just envy them the money and the pussy they get
user406009
To be fair, StarCraft 2 is much more fun to watch.
there is a pro that no doubt gets all the pussy
user406009
Football and basketball are really boring.
21:13
lol watching football
otoh SC2 isn't really a team-oriented game
just go outside and play it instead
wish I looked that good
I enjoy watching football and basketball time to time
@milleniumbug watching pros can help you improve your play
When we played basketball regularly, we used to go out, play for some 2 hours, then go back, shower, and watch some pro play vOv
21:14
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, persian pussycats are pretty expensive so money comes in handy...Pretty much the only living creatures that will keep a straight face when you tell them you're a pro gaymer.
@BartekBanachewicz Football football or Freedom Football?
> Ubisoft is teasing some kind of caveman-themed game announcement
A cave painting. What could it mean?
I'll try to guess
another shit game
@Nooble You meant "football or handegg"?
they do this after the disaster that is homm 7
@AlexM. It's probably a Fallout-style zoom out from a painting into a modern environment ruled by some dictator-type person.
21:15
they have no shame whatsoever
@ElimGarak I love all the feels you're trying to contain so much but can't because you failed to become a pro gamer
like no shame in the world nothing
@BartekBanachewicz :D
user406009
@ElimGarak What game did you try to become pro at?
@Lalaland 3D SexVilla
Don't Google it.
user406009
21:17
Wait, it's actually a real game ...
user406009
So is this why you are so concerned about graphics?
it's a far cry game set in the prehistoric age
you know what else is prehistoric
user406009
You goal in life is to create 3D SexVilla 2?
the quality of homm 7 they released a few days ago
Actually, 3D SexVilla 2 is a thing. Maybe even 3.
21:18
fucking ubisoft
user406009
With fancy lighting effects for those underground dungeons.
With a special screenspace method for vagina subsurface scattering.
Ex6TenZ... is that a advertisement or team name?
They had 6 exes and they were all 10/10
Come to think of it, Andrey may be a part of that team.
Bjarne needs an editor.
Ell
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21:26
@BartekBanachewicz you can tell its gaming because it's wired and PS2
show (If (block:elseIfBlocks) elseBlock) = "if " ++ show block ++ elseIfBlocksStr ++ elseBlockStr
      where
        elseIfBlocksStr = concatMap (("\nelseif " ++) . show) elseIfBlocks
        elseBlockStr = maybe "" (("\nelse " ++) . show) elseBlock
I freaking love haskell
welp forgot to add "end"
Wellp, my 6s-es arrived today. Kinda having some difficulty physically differentiating them from 6-es. If it weren't for the S on the backplate, lol...
"your"?
are you buying iphones on a daily basis for yourself?
21:29
Not on a daily basis, but every generation, yeah. Not really buying them per se, they're part of the contract.
Will be fun to pit them in graphics tests.
soo it turns out my test failure was an issue in the test itself
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz You weren't there when there was the drama about Elim's phones?
user406009
He has like 10 phones.
@ElimGarak what contract?
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@BartekBanachewicz this looks odd
are you writing a language?
21:32
@Ell I resurrected my Turnip :)
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the game?
@BartekBanachewicz Well, you know how you basically get the phone for "free" (there is a fee, naturally, but far below the asking price) when you opt-in for a subscription. We have something similar for businesses here. Each year, new phone. Part of the gig.
user406009
@ElimGarak Usually there is an option to bring your own phone or something.
user406009
Which allows you to save on your monthly bill.
Ell
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21:34
ooh
@Ell I've just added CI to it
@Lalaland Well, I kinda don't mind it. I like playing KotOR on the toilet and also seeing how far I can push them graphics wise. Don't really write mobile apps, tho.
user406009
Yeah. But money is money.
I think I could change the tests though
I'm not really using the fact the parsers are standalone
user406009
The more money you save on phone bills, the more you have to spend buying Vietnamese sandwiches.
21:35
or am I
mmmm
user406009
(Or whatever you spend your spare cash on)
Ell
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I'm struggling to change gtk theme
adding tests feels so good
Xeo
Xeo
don't get addicted
@BartekBanachewicz How do you like your MacBook so far? It's the retina one?
21:43
@ElimGarak yeah Retina 13.3"
@Xeo I'm in charge of introducing tests at work sooo
@ElimGarak I like it a lot. Superb battery life and screen, boots really fast and the OS works absolutely smoothly. The cons would definitely be the keyboard, annoying keyboard shortcuts and some things in OSX that so far feel totally weird.
Ell
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laptop keyboards are mostly bad IME
but it's kinda difficult to fit a decent keyboard into such a thin space
I liked the Yoga keyboard
this one is considerably worse
Damn, I might just have to pick one up. I could use a laptop with those qualities. And I can always pop Windows onto it. You can talk a lot of shit about Apple, but they build some good shit.
@ElimGarak Battery life drops in half on Windows.
Yeah, for emergencies only. I am using OS X 10.11 right now on desktop, quite used to it. (Hackintosh, i7 / GTX 980) It's not that bad, I am just weirded out by the window system, still feels clumsy to me.
21:48
I was thinking about putting a hackintosh on my workstation a while ago but I think I'll leave it on windows
@ElimGarak I use Spectacle for window organization. Heartily recommend (free).
in El Capitan they're fixing at least a part of Spectacle is doing for the OS though
I'll check it out. Still can't get used to the size of the Plus version of the iPhone. Will be fun for Metal given the size (although far more pixels driven by the same hardware is a pity), but day to day the regular one is far more apt (also huge).
> is far more apt
ITT iPhones are Debian-based distros
The regular one has almost the diagonal of the Playstation Vita. Plus overshoots it by half an inch.
I'd actually like the bigger one
5
Either way you go, the display is kinda orgasmic.
21:56
topkek
I've found an idea for a simple static analysis warning
parse "a,b,c = 1,2" `shouldBe` (Block [Assignment [LVar "a", LVar "b", LVar "c"] [Number 1.0, Number 2.0]])
parse "a,b = 1,2,3" `shouldBe` (Block [Assignment [LVar "a", LVar "b"] [Number 1.0, Number 2.0, Number 3.0]])
> warning: you suck: at line [...]
You just need to find the unbalanced assignments and highlight them
I still can't use SYB well enough to traverse the AST dynamically though
also, wtf, did Apple implement hover sensing? Nah, just residual.
/@Borgleader KotOR - Now available on every toilet :D
What a great believable line
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22:05
@BartekBanachewicz do you have an estimate for battery life?
Do you use coconut battery?
Potato battery
Самогон battery
@ElimGarak hehe
@Ell battery life as in years or what
Ell
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as in how many hours before you have to charge again
69 minutes always
22:13
Well I do yes why?
Ell
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how many hours of "average use" does the laptop last?
I'd say around 9 to 11, but I haven't measured it exactly yet
Ell
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yeah
In Minecraft I think it should be around 5-6
Ell
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22:16
I'm thinking of getting this store.asus.com/us/item/201502AM130000188
UX305FA
when is a class a resource handle?
Never?
Ell
Ell
a class can own a resource handle
or potentially be one, but I wouldn't expect it really
@Ell Intel M? Are you ever going to compile C++ on it? :)
I am talking about "when the class is responsible for an object accessed through a pointer..."
I hate books.
I just wrote about how the moonshiners' guild saved the whole Polish nation
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22:17
@BartekBanachewicz intel m aren't that slow :P
I still very happily use my i5-2500k
@Ell I think they're too slow for C++ development
for other languages it really doesn't matter that much
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For scala it probably matters
yeah that too
Ell
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but either way I'm sure it's not too slow for me
it's cool that it's fanless though
22:19
Need moar implicits!
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yeah and aluminium unibody
8 hours battery seems optimistic on windows, but it should give you solid 6-7 hours
of course less on linux
@BartekBanachewicz yeah it really is but you know the CPU itself is heavily throttled to compensate
of course
22:20
Windows mostly "makes an effort" when you're running it on a Surface (Pro) device. Processing power is throttled due to thermal design issues, so its potential is never really fulfilled. Or the specs can be really considered true to life.
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@BartekBanachewicz it says up to 10 hours battery life
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Q: Why does Linux have poor battery life by default compared to Windows?

decvaltsIs there something inherent to Linux operating systems that makes them poor managers of battery power by default? I would have thought a light distro like Lubuntu would have a clear battery life advantage over Windows, yet this doesn't seem to be the case. Is it a hardware vendor issue - are lapt...

Well if snack exchange says so it must be true
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it comes down to drivers
@Ell you're gonna hate the microHDMI though
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22:21
@BartekBanachewicz do you think? how come?
needing to carry an adaptor you mean?
@CatPlusPlus stack exchange says nothing, you inconsiderate dipshit. It's user writing answers and other users upvoting them.
@Ell yeah. Or a micro-normal cable. Either way, annoying.
10 people on the internet agree that
> If you compare Windows 7 or 8 to a typical Ubuntu installation - given that the power management is widely supported (say, like an Intel-based laptop with Intel wireless, Intel chipset, etc.) according to the majority on searches says that Ubuntu lacks in terms of battery life.
> Thread: Windows to Ubuntu - battery life sucks now
22:23
majority on searches
Windows 7/8 to Windows 10, my laptop battery life plummeted by a whole hour (cut in half).
@CatPlusPlus I'm all ears for counterexamples
After some driver updates and Windows Updates, I'm back up to around ~1h35m
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> given the power management is widely supported
The PhD is probably using
22:24
I've searched for "windows vs linux battery life"
lol counterexamples
How about "it's not a function of just the OS"
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the reason linux has poorer battery life is because power management is not supported
@ElimGarak Hey. :c
22:24
@Ell there are multiple reasons really
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the reason it tends to have poorer battery life is because the drivers aren't able to turn off most things a lot of the time
due to drivers not documenting power features etc.
@BartekBanachewicz what are the other reasons?
dunno, google for them. I've linked the answer as well.
It's not made by Apple
> Integrated Intel HD Graphics 5300
@CatPlusPlus plonk
22:25
I've tolerated your idiotic behaviour for way too long already
@ElimGarak Gigabyte's new Z107 motherboard.
Wait, Bartek and Cat really beefin' in da hood?
Strong ironicat
oh fuck him I'm too tired of listening to his bullshit
22:26
I looked at the EASTL slides
Stronger
That stuff is interesting, if not convoluted.
I know there are a few factions, there's Cicada plonking Luc Danton, Puppy plonking Cicada... And so on.
@ElimGarak he's taking voice in battery life thread while he's a fucking basement dweller who never leaves house or doesn't own or use any mobile device
Quality arguments
22:27
it's just fucking trolling and disrupting
he'll get bored if you ignore him
because of the inner pet hate or Freudian head fuckups or whatever
@Jaden I just did.
Perfect logic
Cat is mostly just, I don't know, Cat. He means well, kinda.
amazing. Let's drop the cat.
We were talking about @Ell's choice for a laptop
which I think is pretty good
22:28
I mean, where the fuck does Freud even enter the picture
except the miniHDMI stuff
What the hell
And he still didn't get that it was about "of course"
lol
you both live in the same country do a drive by on his apartment
@ʞɔᴉN Didn't Bartek move somewhere?
22:30
apparently HD 5300 is also broadwell, like 6100
@ElimGarak nah, still in Tricity
Imma move to kitchen for more wine
well actually Gdynia now, indeed
but that's almost literally still the same city
There's like 600 km of road between Bartek and Cat. Or at least, was according to my last NSA report on Cat.
And basements tend to be heavily fortified with pizza boxes
brb converting to freedom units
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22:31
He's got some basement fetish or whatever the fuck
370 miles, that's not too far if you're mad enough
@BartekBanachewicz Never seen Cat trolling to be honest
@CatPlusPlus no he doesn't live an a basement, at least not anymore
He keeps talking about them
He is just annoying because he is right 99% of the times, and you know it
22:32
I haven't had a basement in a while
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ never
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ but but hes a right wing conservative wanker
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I think he's right a lot of times, and I also think he absolutely can't be wrong about something.
and when I say the latter I mean literaly shit stuck in head and can't admit to possibly being wrong attitude
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm, are you sure you phrased that correctly?
22:34
and that's coincidentally the case with every discussion involving "mobile"
6 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
amazing. Let's drop the cat.
that was 6 minutes ago and I don't really care enough to discuss it
@Ell I also like that it has 3 USBs, though a lack of DisplayPort is kinda meh
@BartekBanachewicz you're completely right about that, but you don't seem too different in that regard :)
happy face for friendship and love
not that it would prolly be used often to show 4K @60fps
Ell
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@BartekBanachewicz yeah I'd prefer a DisplayPort too
also MicroHDMI, apart from being annoying, is also flimsy
user1804599
lol
user1804599
22:37
GCC emits REP RET instead of NOP; RET because then only one instruction has to be decoded instead of two.
what have you done to your avatar
user1804599
But they have the same effect.
user1804599
REP RET is UB but AMD recommends you do it, so nobody will dare break it in the future.
why is the nop needed at all though
user1804599
22:40
@BartekBanachewicz Because the processor is unable to apply a branch prediction to the single-byte near-return form (opcode C3h) of the ret instruction. Thus, use of a two-byte near-return can improve performance, because it is not affected by this shortcoming.
okey downloading El Capitan
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@Mysticial did you know this and if so why didn't you tell me :(
> Respectfully speaking, this is ludicrous and you are a troll.
Ell
Ell
now I want ThinkPad Yoga 14 :(
22:46
@Ell why?
it's much bulkier and heavier
user1804599
I'm gonna sleep.
user1804599
goodbye
though if you can accept the loss of mobility, I think it's nice - superb keyboard, normal HDMI port
@Morwenn eloquently put
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yeah the keyboard is my main concern with that other laptop
22:47
tablet mode on 14" is hardly gonna be useful though
Ell
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but yoga is much more expensive
@BartekBanachewicz yeah
Maybe one of the thinkpads will be good
@Ell How about the one I had, the older yoga 12?
@ʞɔᴉN That was the answer to @elyse's issue on that ref flag of functional programming thing :p
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I'll look it up
they go around for pretty cheap nowadays, if you can accept having Haswell instead of Broadwell and HD 4400 GPU
user1804599
22:49
@Morwenn LOL
shops are getting rid of them so discounts are pretty substantial
user1804599
I was indeed trolling.
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I mean I don't really need the flip ability
or w/e it's called
2-in-one?
yoga 12 has the miniHDMI though which is shitty as well
@elyse What happened to your Rust issue?
user1804599
22:50
Which one?
user1804599
Noble metals?
user1804599
It got closed and locked.
No fun :(
user1804599
My other one about the blatant lie on the Rust homepage is still open I guess.
@Morwenn so it's correct and should be marked as the answer right?
user1804599
22:50
"and guarantees thread safety" is bullshit
The safest way to guarantee thread safety is not to provide threads.
Ell
Ell
> Rust is a systems programming language that runs blazingly fast, prevents nearly all segfaults, and guarantees thread safety.
> blazingly fast
> blazingly
you can configure with FHD & 8GB

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