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15:00
@elyse Never really got curious enough to check. But in Perl 4 that's what you'd use to get hierarchical data structures.
References are a Perl 5 thing.
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh. I thought you meant a typo actually present. That counts as an association for me. Yeah, I got that meaning
A typo in being.
Guise, which font size do you prefer?
For what
11+ anyway
15:03
Writing codes, of course. I am at 14 and I kinda like it. :/
@ElimGarak code is singular uncountable
Consolas right now, looking into some others.
guifont=DejaVu_Sans_Mono_for_Powerline:h12
@milleniumbug No, internet speek demands it.
15:04
:set guifont?
  guifont=Consolas:h11
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think that's for creating lists of arrays.
user1804599
@john = (47, "brown", 186);
@mary = (23, "hazel", 128);
@bill = (35, "blue", 157);
@vitals = ('john', 'mary', 'bill');
local(*array) = $vitals[0]; # Alias *array to *john.
$array[1] = 'red'; # Actually sets $john[1].
I also am at 14.
user1804599
I think Perl 4 had no anonymous arrays.
guys, how do I fix the lounge looking terrible in chrome/windows
15:06
@Mr.kbok Download Stylish plugin
Alt+F4, run Firefox
It kind of lets me focus on the part I am currently working on, instead of condensing a shitload of code into view I currently don't care about. And the glyphs kinda come to "life".
@CatPlusPlus It's popping up tons and tons of modal proxy dialogs
Btw, @sehe what you think of this? yehudakatz.com/2010/07/29/…
@Mr.kbok lolwut
user406009
15:07
@ElimGarak true programmers only use Wingdings.
DON’T HATE PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE HATE THEM FOR THE PERSON THEY’LL BECOME
DON’T HATE PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE HATE THEM FOR CAPITALS
Every time I see the word hate, I remember that silly game "Hatred".
What. The. Hell.
@Lalaland Webdings > Wingdings. Why, you ask?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Proxy is buggy, refuses to deliver some requests. Firefox pops up a modal proxy auth dialog everytime it happens. Sometimes I have to click 10 times "cancel" in a row
I know the proxy is buggy, but I don't care. Modal dialogs have nothing to do in a browser in 2015.
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15:09
ok so I got chocolate
user1804599
take home or leave at company
@ElimGarak Ah, Hatred, the game that showed everyone that you can sell a shit game easily by pandering to those who think games are "too PC".
The worse part is that it's switching to the tab that's the source of the auth issue so the lounge keeps popping up
15:10
Man, that's adorable.
The look of a loving parent.
@sehe Octocat.
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user1804599
So awesome.
Webdings best font.
user1804599
15:12
web dings
user1804599
icon fonts before it was cool
Sup, nab. Where's nooble?
@Mr.kbok Run Linux Mint in a virtual box?
@fredoverflow overkill much?
15:13
@ElimGarak ded (still)
user406009
@ElimGarak probably in school
user406009
Or on the socker field
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've seem it before. I actually feel like that: "If you feel that way, Vim probably isn't for you." sometimes. And I don't think it should be anything derogatory. It's just: Vim fits my mental processes.
It's perfectly possible that it doesn't work for others. I'd like to think that the same mental aptitudes make me a good programmer, but I'd rather judge by the code itself, than have prejudices about the editor used.
Not on Skyep, neither. So very ded
@Lalaland Oooooooh
@EtiennedeMartel imgur rates it Cathulhu
15:14
@sehe And what he says about introducing people to it?
You became an Imgur junkie, @sehe?
> As a dad, being a parent IS the best thing that ever happened to me. Oh by the way, if you don't have kids fuck you and fuck your happiness.
You a usersub dweller yet?
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think he has some fair points. It's indeed hard to not lose productivity while learning. Then again, yeah, this is worth it for me. (And I'd add, it's only useful to learn it using real life tasks, or you end up optimizing the (for) wrong things)
15:19
@ElimGarak Ugh
Smokey the Cat.
Ahahah, that's adorable and wrong at the same time.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah... seems fairly common sense. Start with what you know how to use, and learn more and more time saving things as you go. Learn things as you need them.
One thing that I really like about 'normal' 'IDE's is being able to highlight a variable/type can go to it's where it's defined, even if that's another file.
lol, you clearly don't C++
You've never used "Go to definition"
Which should be renamed to "Load forever and get lost in a random, unrelated file"
3
F12 is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random but for your program
nerd
@ElimGarak bad boy
15:29
I just can't leave it alone, OCD kills me.
    public:
int foo() { ... }
and then everything inside of it goes right as well. Feels compartmentalized.
COMPARTMENTALIZATION
I find it very disturbing that C++/CLI expects you to type C++ style access specifiers
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yeah, saw that (all sorts of people have been linking me to it for the past two days). Doesn't seem to work.
15:31
I assume it only works for objective tinnitus, i.e., it does nothing if it's all in your head.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lucky then that I refrained from linking you to it.
@ElimGarak Do you also indent labels?
@TonyTheLion Nah, it's ok. I appreciate it.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I still want to try it next time it spikes.
namespace lounge {
	namespace garak {
		class elim {
			public:
				elim()
					{
						std::cout <<
							"Hello!"
							<< std::endl;
					}
		};
	}
}
Even if it cannot produce silence, if it helps against the really loud times, it's good.
15:33
indentation is key
Not that far. :P Mostly just where it makes sense, some visual sense of grouping. Same goes for cases in a switch, etc.
namespace lounge::garak { /* ... */ }
@Mr.kbok my eyes hurt
@Mr.kbok Does C++ support namespace lounge::garak yet?
15:34
@fredoverflow C++17 will.
@ElimGarak That's the reason I don't indent access specifiers; I don't like finding myself on the right side of the screen
More of a leftish guy ;-)
@Mr.kbok I just use structs and leave everything public.
@Morwenn With modules.
rip modules
C with classes. C++ with modules.
15:35
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Like, there's a bunch of replies like "Dude I was just at a rock concert and had ringing. Did this for 30 seconds and it's GONE. Thanks!"
@ElimGarak Scala with macros.
That's objective tinnitus, I believe. The ringing is an actual ringing.
It has nothing to do with external stimuli! :( Mine spikes when I am genuinely concerned / stressed out. Quietness is sometimes a prerequisite.
@fredoverflow I do that too, mostly, in my programs. My colleagues prefer private data members though.
15:36
@ElimGarak Mine too. That's subjective tinnitus (i.e. you can't objectively measure it; only the subject is aware of it; i.e. you're hearing things inside your head)
And I really don't like when people diminish the problem as a non-issue. I would like for them to live with it for a week.
It was hard to hit that "Up" button. I was shaking so much.
Actually, being shot is unlikely to drop you unless immediate fatality or targeting something that is related to your locomotion.
Also a bunch of "Works for about 5 seconds then comes back." comments, which is why I'm interested if it might help with temporary relief for intense spikes.
In real life, shooting a perp multiple times will still enable him to run for a few blocks, adrenaline.
15:40
@ElimGarak Unless, like, they have been shot in the legs
But not when get shot with .50 BMG
Like I said, unless facilities related to locomotion are disabled.
The shot itself won't change your movement much, but its effects can easily cause you to fall.
@ElimGarak Or just fainting.
I often wonder how exactly it feels to be shot. Not that I want to find out, but still.
> It depends where you get shot. A lot of people don't want to move when they get hurt. It can cause your heart to pump blood faster if you don't lay down and try to relax while holding the wound.
Also, playing dead can save your life.
15:42
@ElimGarak Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike getting stabbed
> Same goes for falling over when stabbed, I was stabbed 3 times in succession around my midsection and just stood there wandering why I hadn't fallen over yet, movies always do it. In reality there was no pain just a warm sensation running down my leg from the first wound.
user406009
I would much rather be shot than stabbed.
user406009
Stabbing is really scary.
Adrenaline and shock are magical things
15:43
The shinigamis will take note of your request @Lalaland
My experience is that you never see the kind of "kick" you see in movies. The bullet just goes in (and/or through) and then the subject falls for other reasons.
Source: I'm a monster who shoots animals for pleasure.
I like how he was walking towards the driver all smug and shit, then running like a little bitch.
15:45
@Morwenn Is that supported on VC++ yet?
I have a lot of nested namespaces and I could REALLY use that syntax.
@ThePhD macro it
@ThePhD I don't think so.
Fuck me.
> This man is a hero. It show's the best way to defend you and yours. Kill everyone and everything that tries to do you harm. No warnings. No warning shot. Killed on site. Justice.
NAMESPACE(lounge, garak, awsome)
END_NAMESPACE_3()
much better
wow
15:46
That's one of these features that don't anything from a semantic point of view, but everybody wants it :p
Did you know that if you punch someone there's no loud sound effect??
@Morwenn I want optional semicolons.
@CatPlusPlus I always have to make it myself.
15:46
@fredoverflow ASI
:25797620 I think it's been confirmed for C++17.
I've never punched anyone. :/
@R.MartinhoFernandes I make the sound effect too.
namespace lounge { namespace garak { namespace awsome { ... }}}
It probably saves keystrokes too
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva s/ful/some/
namespace git {
  const auto gud = "you skrub";
}
It also prevents stupid fucking formatters from triply fucking nesting my namespace and class definitions.
namespace fuck::why::isnt::this::a::thing::yet
@ElimGarak naemspaec because::you::suck
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva yes
user406009
15:49
@ElimGarak write a proposal then :P
I never invoke the auto formatters anymore because EVERY SINGLE ONE has only one option: "Indent namespace", and then they just BLINDLY apply it to every braced namespace declaration.
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva awesome is when you're in awe; awsome is when you're in awwww
void std::sort(...) { ... }
user406009
It can join the crowd.
@Mr.kbok Fulsome praise indeed!
15:50
@JerryCoffin stop with the puns, I'm aweminating
kay RTC, I did the change over from scratch. can you not destroy it this time thanks
> is_adl_sexy(T())
of course adl is sexy
@Mr.kbok Not sexier than you.
@ThePhD aw :3
@Mr.kbok Stop with the puns? But the bandwidth of a minivan full of puns drops a lot if you stop...
Lyrics: while(true) std::cout << "LE ";
oh my god
15:58
@Xeo I'm going to learn that for one-handed solves.
> I suspect the behaviour to be related to the non initialization of the variable m_shock_time
GroupInfos() : m_shock_time() {
MSVC? Then yes
If you are working and need peaceful, lovely music:
@milleniumbug No, it's a primitive

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