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13:01
uh
Just finished reading some hacker news article
Why do I keep doing that
Ven
Ven
what was it about?
some hackaton bully
it's really terrible. spare yourself the time. go watch a friends episode instead or something
Wait
WAIT
user406009
@Mr.kbok Yeah. I read that as well. People can be assholes.
The 1 for orthographic projecton matrices... ends up in the 3rd row for DirectX style matrices, and on the fourth row for OpenGL?!
13:06
At some point the guy goes "it's the kind of high school bully but now WE ARE IN CONTROL WE BUILT THE INTERNET" cue conway's game glider
What is my life right now.
cringe overload, I need to sit down for a bit
user406009
@Mr.kbok I found that this recent article was sorta an interesting contrast.
@Mr.kbok on the same article I saw on /r/programming... yeah it's kinda dumb
user1804599
@Ven I want to make a library for this kind of stuff.
Ven
Ven
@elyse for what?
user406009
@TheForestAndTheTrees To be fair though, the "idea guy" was sorta a douche.
@Ven fucking up vtables and such
Ven
Ven
lol. amazing. go ahead
show me how crazy you can get!
@Lalaland pastebin i cannot
@Lalaland some homeless dude yelled at me the other day. not going to write an article about it.
13:13
@CatPlusPlus Is there a way around this for git and how can I check?
Ell
Ell
yeah xmpp stream thing is annoying
Ell
Ell
I couldn't find an async xml parser
user1804599
@Ven creating vtables and type info at runtime
> I have climbed my way from getting hired to a 120 person company with a below median salary to making probably more than anyone in 6 months, by being good at what I do
Is that the part of the internet where all the terrible people go
Ven
Ven
13:15
@Mr.kbok what do you want, he's a 10x developer :)))))
user1804599
And I'm lucky since I can extract vtable offsets from member function pointers.
@Lalaland He's in a lock-in though
@Mr.kbok lol HN
Why do you read HN comments?
What's up with the lounge reading HN?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Compiling!
13:20
Yes...?
user1804599
> bus error
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't have access to a pair or LARP-style foam blades
I am really bad at following news, so I basically assume not good thing based on word "hacker" in the title.
@ElimGarak It is everything you think it is.
user406009
@ElimGarak Most of the articles and comments are actually quite good.
13:22
@Mr.kbok Dunno, I don't drink cringe by the gallon when compiling.
user406009
It's just sometimes, they get a little out of hand.
user406009
Especially when you start talking about startups.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I got lost on twitter.
user406009
Or how important each of them think they are.
@StackedCrooked Holy smokes. Core guidelines. <runs on for only 47 pages/>
13:23
@Lalaland Nothing like pissing contests under a nickname.
@Mr.kbok selfish bastard! :)
@elyse wht :)
@sehe 47? I have a 150+-page printout on my desk.
user406009
@elyse I think that's UB.
user406009
13:26
Don't blame me if your computer catches on fire.
@elyse be aware that your code won't probably work on MSVC
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used plain pandoc on the md -> docx
it is UB
you're assuming that member function pointers converted to integers are just offsets, MSVC doesn't treat them as such but rather as pointers
where's that visual studio online compiler link..
@R.MartinhoFernandes But if you arrived at something presentable, can you share it? Mine wasn't really print-ready
user1804599
13:28
This code is Itanium ABI specific HTH.
I still have a PDF.
Sec.
@elyse good stuff (dat domain though)
user1804599
Also I should rewrite some parts to be more cautious about memcpy of non-PODs, and reinterpret_cast.
@R.MartinhoFernandes drools :)
user1804599
actually maybe memcpy from member function pointer is fine
user1804599
13:29
I dunno.
I think technically it needs reinterpret_cast<char*> but otherwise, fine. As long as it gets reinterpreted back into the exact same original type
user1804599
I suppose I'll write it in assembly.
user1804599
That way, the compiler can't make assumptions, and there's no C++ UB.
@sehe u.rmf.io/cppcg (self-signed cert)
13:33
Interesting stuff. I guess people downvoted this because of your affiliation (see your own bio for people interested) but +1 from me here. — sehe 6 secs ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks
I want my own 24/7 server
but I don't want to pay for it
user1804599
@MarcoA. linode.com
user1804599
@MarcoA. RIP
connect your old android phone to your home network
linode is gr8.
user1804599
13:35
it even works with pure virtual functions!
and forward some ports
> It is inkorrekt, incompleat, and pÂμà ̧oorly formatted.
user406009
@MarcoA. I can give you an account on the StarGazer server.
:D
I like how they fucked up this old joke.
"incompleat" is incorrect, not incomplete.
The correct way of doing it is "incomplet".
13:36
That's Frenchist
"incompleat" is not autological like "incomplet"
Robot -Pedantic
user1804599
std::memcpy(this, in a ctor is awesome.
user406009
@MarcoA. Just let me know if you are interested.
@ElimGarak DON'T MESS WITH MY SELF-REFERENTIAL JOKES.
13:37
@Lalaland what is the stargazer server?
@elyse Needs more static_assert(is_pod<decltype(*this)>::value, "asdadadadad")
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah ^^ I noticed that too. It buggers me.
user1804599
@sehe Needs more C++17.
@Mr.kbok It buggers you?
@elyse Yeah.
13:38
Unqualified<decltype(*this)> is annoying as hell though
user406009
@MarcoA. A Debian digital ocean account that I use for the StarGazer extension. I am using nginx for virtual servers.
user406009
Virtual hosts*
May 21 '14 at 10:41, by R. Martinho Fernandes
"autological" is pentasyllabic. "pentasyllabic" is autological because it is pentasyllabic. They are co-autological.
@sehe are you just being pedantic or ignorant?
God, I remember when I was going nuts over this.
13:39
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nerd :)
Now tweet it
So I can retweet it
@thecoshman y not both?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!111
@sehe There's a longer story.
@R.MartinhoFernandes only if you have the 'right' pronunciation :P
user406009
@MarcoA. There's lots of extra capacity on it.
user1804599
@sehe not is_pod
@R.MartinhoFernandes also the poorly formatted is not too great either. could have been poorly formatted
user1804599
13:41
but rather std::is_trivially_copyable
@sehe I don't like to offer you such an option!
@R.MartinhoFernandes The oneliner is entertaining in it's own right
Episode ends on a cliffhanger, next episode continues the procedural. Fuck. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT.
@elyse tryue. Last time I checked not all libraries/compilers got the implementation right
I wonder if any country recognises a legal plea along the lines of "I proclaim innocence, but I am willing to accept the punishment as if guilty"
13:42
@sehe I was looking for a word to describe words that can't be classified as exactly one of heterological or autological. Came up with paralogical. "heterological" is paralogical. "paralogical" is heterological. Then I got stuck trying to find one word to describe this pair of words that describe each other, and came up with "co-autological".
@thecoshman Srsly. to bugger means (amusing) different things then to bug IYAM
user1804599
@sehe Well, javac certainly didn't.
@sehe has trouble letting things slide. :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes symbiotical ~bio
@Mr.kbok Yeah, it's mÂμà ̧jibake.
13:42
@sehe "to bugger" something is the same as "to fuck" it... is that is what you are getting at?
@thecoshman It's not what he meant to say
@sehe ... yeah
:D
@sehe yes, because if "to be buggered" means... not one thing
Don't let it bugger your
13:43
@sehe Too generic, and not self-explanatory.
I'm not contending
it worries me? it bugs me? it annoys me? it nags me? it concerns me? it dreads me?
@sehe hey, just be proud I've avoided accidentally wanting some fries with these buggers :P
@Mr.kbok you mean it gets on your tits?
I don't have tits
Wow :o
13:45
@R.MartinhoFernandes can a word truly be self-explanatory?
grow them
@sehe Yeah I feel offended once again. I should start a flame war!
Oh, and I'm late
(^typical french there)
@Mr.kbok oh man, didn't realise you had a double mastectomy
So, I've been meaning to ask here... I've got a buddy with whom I sometimes play GTA V Online. We can walk beside a 100 male NPCs, he won't shoot/run over/vaporize any of them. But the moment he sees a female NPC, he pops a cap in her ass. Should I be concerned?
@thecoshman Within a domain, yes.
13:45
fuck, having to use google to spell "mastectomy" is risk :P
@milleniumbug I'll let @elyse experiment with that.
user1804599
???
What should I write in the What is the impact of this issue bug report form for MSVC?
@elyse Boobs
I mean, I kill indiscriminately in GTA V, so I am morally superior, right?
13:46
@R.MartinhoFernandes but to be truely self-explanatory ... ergh, never mind
"it doesn't compile" seems a reasonable one
user1804599
@milleniumbug boobs are great
user406009
@ElimGarak depends. How ugly is the female NPC?
@ElimGarak yes.
I find boobs overrated.
user1804599
13:46
BETWEEN BOOBS, PLACE COCK
Well, they're all pretty uglish. Except my character, she's beautiful.
@sehe Anyway, tweeted.
@JoeBlow nobody is jumpy. I just don't think it's useful nor fair to keep stretching this discussion out and smearing it on all answers by Ira. I made a polite reference to the issue in my comment. The rest is very easy to find on meta. — sehe just now
@Morwenn where are they posting the official rating for boobs
@Morwenn I don't.
13:47
@EtiennedeMartel boob-master-race :|
Oo, forgot to mention: that time of the month since yesterday
Do Loungers play GTA Online? :( I need non-retards to do heists with.
@sehe extended with "(Oh, this is also why I'll delete this comment in a bit. Please don't respond, unless on meta)"
@chmod711telkitty No one cares.
13:48
@ElimGarak Only hearthstone currently
@chmod711telkitty you have issues
Oo, forgot to mention: gums still hurt all around. I bet I stink from my mouth since my flue
@chmod711telkitty thanks
user1804599
@sehe eat peppermint and brush teeth
13:49
One day she'll post a pic here
@elyse sugar will only make it worse
you want to swill some vooodka
or some other spirit
user1804599
@thecoshman so?
kill the stinky mouth bacteria
@elyse That's awesomely bad advice. Eating a peppermint is the /one surefire way/ for me to suffer bleeding gum and cheeks for a week.
user1804599
13:50
Neither peppermint nor toothpaste implies sugar.
Brushing teeth: like a maniac. I bring one to work at times like this
@sehe dude, how old are you?
OMG PLUTO IS BEAUTIFUL
eh the whole enum thing blows up if you put it in a namespace named "enums"
@thecoshman That's not age related
13:51
ffs, if it's not puppy with his bitch, it's robot with his rocks
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user1804599
@sehe eat bubble gum then
@R.MartinhoFernandes you f*cking having a slow mental breaking down or what
user1804599
bubble gum is gum that can't bleed
@elyse Somewhat better
@R.MartinhoFernandes YES!
13:51
@sehe take some acid
gah, dotPeek integration in 2015 broken, pain pain pain
@chmod711telkitty now. Can you please get out
user1804599
@thecoshman acid as in meth?
@R.MartinhoFernandes True dat and given the hardware in question, that is a pretty great shot.
@chmod711telkitty What the fuck is wrong with you?
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@chmod711telkitty whoa, it's that time of the month alright. eat chocolate
13:52
@elyse no, lsd o_0
he has kicked me for no reasons constantly now
user1804599
oh right
> no reasons
@chmod711telkitty today?
13:52
When?
Why did you come back? I'd stay away just to spite robot.
"He turned me into a newt"
Did you _ask_ why?
Did you flag for a moderator?
so SO shows who kicked
13:53
You can kick people now?
...
@chmod711telkitty I'm fine. Cut the pointless attacks or you're out again.
Must be something about Friday's :)
user406009
@Mr.kbok I think it's a really short kick
user1804599
Sounds like someone has got a case of the Fridays.
13:54
like I said, he kicked me constantly and I am a bit mad at his behaviour, not just today
Ouch
What is going on
@Mr.kbok Owners can... somewhat.
@chmod711telkitty Take a hint.
Why doesn't robot kick anybody else beside you? And the likes of Sino.
He kicked me once
user1804599
@Mr.kbok sure, I can kick you on your shin if you're here.
user1804599
13:55
or chin
@R.MartinhoFernandes why was @chmod711telkitty kicked?
@ThePhD Scott Meyers doesn't know any programming language besides C++. His opinion on Scala does not matter.
user1804599
whichever you prefer
> constantly
@chmod711telkitty I warned you about all the previous kicks.
13:55
@edition Why wouldn't she?
@CatPlusPlus Have you written anything non-trivial in Scala?
no you did not
@sehe One single continuous kick.
user1804599
Scala is the C++ of the Java world.
@edition It's telkitty. Not kicking her would require reasoning.
13:56
ok
Jun 8 at 13:40, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@chmod711telkitty I haven't put this in such clear terms before but I will now: I don't appreciate your constant harassment and I grow tired of your constant insinuations that I'm an alcoholic. I will ask you to stop. I will treat any such further attempt as hostile behaviour towards me.
Stop playing the victim.
@EtiennedeMartel that's called /support/
@elyse What is that even supposed to mean?
what about that time I posted the chicken, what about today
lolwat
But robot...
user406009
13:56
@elyse for interests sake, would you pick Scala over Java?
@chmod711telkitty what about all your meta posts
user1804599
@fredoverflow Scala is a better Java like C++ is a better C!
you are an alcoholic
What's that? Trolling and harassing people and then playing the victim when your targets retaliate? I think we found a LRiO smurf.
user1804599
@Lalaland for what?
13:57
@fredoverflow No, I had enough fun with our Spark app
sbt is crap, the language is overcomplicated
hurr durr stop comparing Scala to C++
user406009
I think I would pick Scala on smaller projects with less people. And Java on larger ones.
@EtiennedeMartel except you could appreciate the brains on that one (even though these brains were exactly the thing that made it hard to pierce through the nonsense)
Realizing that is the first step to becoming a real lounger
user1804599
13:58
I'd probably only prefer Java over Scala if I don't want to depend on the Scala standard library.
@sehe Yeah, he at least had interesting things to say when he wasn't being a complete asshole.
Telkitty, however, is a human shape pile of toxic bile.
Jun 8 at 13:37, by chmod 711 telkitty
@sbi you are calling robot an alcoholic, aren't you :'(
@EtiennedeMartel Now now
Seriously
This caused all that?
in the good old days when we had friends in real life hanging out at the local pub, we would just punch a nagger in the face. That is way more effective and efficient than flagging, flaming, voting to kick, reposting warnings and such
13:59
@MarcoA. Punching is indeed more effective than kicking.
ye old times
@ElimGarak plonked
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ what do you think (feel free to upgrade the question)
@EtiennedeMartel plonked
f*ck off now, never mention me ever again
user406009
@MarcoA. You just need to punch the screen hard enough to transfer over the internet.
13:59
Etienne, you made kitty cri.
I am not interested in anything you ever have to say or do

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